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This is the thread for discussing teas, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

Info on types of teas, where to buy, and how to brew: https://rentry.org/tea-pastebin

Previous thread: >>22161502
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ordered some more aged stuff at QuicheTeas
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>>22189995
What's the toyota corolla of black teas brands? Like the dependable stuff that will always create a good cuppa of breakfast tea (with milk (and no sugar)), and also is good value i.e. not that expensive?
Loose vs teabags is no difference to me as long as it works.

Currently I am drinking PG and Tokla Gold, both of which I find rather meh to be honest.
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>>22190020
I heard some anons like turkish brands for this, like Alwazah. probably depends how cheap you can get them
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Is orientaleaf.com the new contender? They got new mengshi rongu cakes. Kingteamall does not.
>pic unrelated
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>>22190013
I've got a 1991 cake i've never touched, I should probably do something with it eventually.
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>>22190013
the XG Baoyan Jincha is pretty fun, sipping on it now
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Noticed some Harney and Sons at a big grocery store in Canada. Tea taste is evolving slightly.
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>>22190819
My metric is loose tea. The grocers near me have actually regressed. Sometimes I could find loose Twinings, Lipton, or some overpriced small brand. Now it's 100% bags.
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>>22190658
What's it like? I assume smooth and aged flavor? Never had a baoyan before
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>>22190319
fuck outta here clanker faggot
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>>22190914
yea man theres zero loose leaf in supermarkets here anymore (scotland)
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>>22191407
It's a bit of a bitch to open up, quite compressed. I think I should have divided it into smaller chunks for this last brew.

Starts out with lots of firewood and resin, a good bit of tart/bitter fruitiness which starts coating the back of your mouth and tongue during the middle infusions. Some mouth cooling and a good bit of tanninic mouth drying.
Later infusions do indeed become smooth and mellow, with some lovely sweetness shining through the ever-present but receeding wood smoke.

At least that's my take at trying to describe it. I didn't really like it at first when I bought it along a bunch of smooth and cheap Shou, but it definitely grew on me and I quite like it by now. Must have been crazy strong before the aging.
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>>22191509
Sounds pretty good. I love the 2005 t8653 I bought from Quiche, it's probably my favourite aged sheng I bought so far (and not the most expensive one). Has a robust woody barbeque flavor, is strong but smooth and has a great texture.
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>>22191414
sail out to hong kong, becone tai pan
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>>22191615
might just have to.
did get a few cakes in the post today tho ;)
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>>22189995
I've been getting into breakfast blends. I live in a predominantly coffee/mate country so good black teas, specially loose leaf ones, are harder to come across. Best i've had was Twinings English Breakfast bags and some cheap black loose teas. Really wanna try Irish Breakfast too but it's hella overpriced here for some reason.

Anyway, is Dilmah a good loose tea brand? I saw one of their 500g English Breakfast tins for about 30 bux.
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>>22191509
This puerbian be drinkin charcoal
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Idk guys. I keep getting annoyed with tea, then I try coffee... Then realize how bad coffee is and go back to tea.
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>>22192482
dilmah balls lmao
maybe a little expensive for ctc
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where can I get cheap tray for gong fu
europe btw
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New Farmerleaf releases out, some black teas, oolong, a ripe and some raws.

I'm tempted by the raws and cheaper blacks, but I should probably invest my money in other ventures at this moment. Not this time, little french man. Not this time.
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>>22193116
aliexpress.
I just get all my chinese teaware on there desu, u gotta learn how to avoid the low quality shit but luckily most of the basic teaware on there is suprisingly good
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that really shit tgy from the last thread was "peridot" was reading the wrong bit of the label didn't see it had a name as well as just the region and year
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what's the red string for?
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>>22193217
You use it to tie the nipple on the lid to the handle. Helps with falling off if you pour it really steeply or something
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>>22193221
ahhh I seee.
I was worried about that happening axtually, the handle is designed in such a way its uncomfortable to hold the lidl with one finger
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>>22190610
That looks like a pretty good website. I haven't seen it before. Some really great cups in there, too.
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>>22193173
also, a sale
I'm also not planning to buy anything from FL right now, I've been getting more into aged sheng and drinking less young ones
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>>22193286
I think I've seen some of their cups much cheaper on KTM actually:
https://orientaleaf.com/collections/chinese-tea-ceremony-cups/products/shu-kou-yellow-partridge-jianzhan-tea-bowl
https://kingteamall.com/en-pl/products/jianzhan-zhe-hu-ban-jumping-knife-oil-drip-150-cc-tea-cup-ktm004?_pos=4&_sid=2788b40c7&_ss=r
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>>22193345
how about tea?
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how much black tea you throw in your gaiwan
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>>22193466
i go with 5g/100ml, then brew with the flash brew method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ5bjBxPbts
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>>22193466
A lot. Always a lot.
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>>22193386
maybe someone can compare their mengku cakes or something, all that stood out to me for price comparison is the same year xiao fa:
https://orientaleaf.com/collections/ripe-pu-erh-tea-shou-pu-erh/products/2023-xiauguan-tuocha-ripe-pu-erh-tea-tuo-in-paper
https://kingteamall.com/en-pl/products/2023-xiaguan-xiao-fa-tuo-100g-5pcs-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha?_pos=2&_sid=393dc4289&_ss=r
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>>22193679
Fair enough. On the other hand, who the fuck buys 100g tuochas? It's a shit product, a trap.

>maybe someone can compare their mengku cakes
That's the thing, kingteamall just does not carry the newest Mengku Rongshi cakes. In fact, orientaleaf may be the only western-facing shop carrying them?
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>>22193709
>On the other hand, who the fuck buys 100g tuocha
it's a good size and there are some good ones. V93 or aged Xiaguan tuos come to mind
I wish more teas were available in 100g sizes desu, it's like the perfect size
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>>22193709
>newest Mengku Rongshi cakes
I've had a lot of their new shengs. It's was almost always good.
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>>22193719
overpriced junk
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>>22193807
5$ for 100g of V93 is overpriced? that's cheaper than every single ripe on white2tea by a good margin
Xiaguan tuos are cheap as chips too
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>>22193835
you get what you pay for
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>>22190020
At least ditch the teabags. You’re paying for mostly packaging with the added bonus of toxic shit. Basically any loose leaf will be an upgrade. With that said, you just gotta try some different black teas to see what you like. Try assam, Keemun, Ceylon, or just grab a cheap loose leaf English breakfast blend.
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is oolong supposed to be slightly fishy or have I stored it improperly?
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>>22196686
>is oolong supposed to be slightly fishy
no
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>>22190020
I don't know what sort of price range you are expecting, but even at let's say 5 cents per gram you can get stuff that doesn't need milk.
The only reason brits started to add milk into tea is because they started drinking the lowest tier trash in order to not bankrupt the whole country.
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british tea traditions btfo all this shize
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>>22197120
I'd rather not drink tea than drink indian slop.
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>>22197130
those plantations are built on british clay
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>>22197135
That british clay sips on eons of street and irrigation system shitters.
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>>22197138
ur drinking tea leaves soaked in boy urine...
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allo allo allo wots all this then governor?
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>>22197145
I'd 100% take drinking young piss over eating Indian shit. Any day.
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>>22197151
i'm sure you would.
i'm just saying moldy pee tinctures arent quite my cup of tea
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>>22197167
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the half castes will never know...
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>>22197176
>oh boy its time to larp victorian snacktime :)
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>>22197184
tell me you're poor without exactly telling me
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>>22197189
>file.png
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>>22197193
im not posting my teaset for a bunch of china men to gawk over best u get is google images pal
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>>22197176
>brown sugar
Poor show...
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>>22197196
You're posting reddit/pinterest images to larp. Its alright. Tradition in fact.
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>>22197198
u can tell the person making the set had no idea
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>>22197201
>larp
no projection here folks
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>>22197205
I'm drinking tea. Quite nice tea actually. Not pretending to drink tea or posting others' playsets.
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>>22193217
what would happen if I untie that?
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>>22197224
>it would be very painful
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>>22197224
it would be extremely scalding
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>>22197230
you’re a pretty big guy
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>>22197211
>AAAH HERRO I LAM CHINESE
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>>22197240
And yet, still no tea. Sad really.
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why is this thread always so fussy? drink more tea.
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>>22197242
proper non larp tea
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>>22197253
Shitty tea, chinese glass, and a leaky lid. You're doing it bud.
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>>22197255
that gets drank in a session pallace.
and yes china is and will continue to be my factory
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shlorp shlorp shlorp shlorp
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this frightens the Larpiental
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>>22197264
>pekoe
Could you tell me the etymology of that word?
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oooOOOOOoooOOoooo
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can you two fuck already
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>>22197303
I haven't fooled around like that since boarding school.
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Oh nonononono
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>>22197334
Iced tea drinkers keep winning!
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I just bought luzziane, but all my life I've been dunking bags in cold water and adding 1 cane sugar packet to a 2l pitcher
what should I be changing
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>>22197334
i think the cut off is 65 C iirc. i steep my tea for 5 minutes and then add whole milk and it's below that threshold
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>Start working somewhere
>"Oh anon do you like coffee we have a coffee machine"
>Tell them I prefer tea
>Their face instantly has a disdainful look
>"Oh yeah we also have tea here i guess"
>They point to a shelf
>(It has one box of peppermint tisane that has been expired since two years ago)
I have nothing against people who drink coffee but this exact thing has happened two times now kek.

That being said, had some nice Da Hong Pao this morning
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Yeeon 2001 "pine crane" Xiaguan Jia Ji tuo
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>>22198545
I find it fascinating how coffee is everywhere.
It's like people's lives are build around it.
>dont talk to me until I have had my 10th coffee
Is strangely accurate.
These people are always in the middle of getting the next cup, because surely that one will fix them, yet this behavior is socially accepted for some reason.
I swear there are people at work that spend more time brewing/drinking coffee than working yet nobody seems to have an issue with that.
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>>22198560
its the new smoking, and its not the only way people slack off and consoom
my manager has a large circumference and will have up to 5 desk breakfasts in a day
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>>22198560
Well i did not want to paint all coffee drinkers or coffee in general in a bad light but there definitely is something like you describe here. Work/hustle culture definitely makes people crave their coffee.
But its also that many people are oblivious to what "i like to drink tea" means. You dont have to like tea of course but it just shows that someone has not much knowledge about certain aspects of human culture
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>>22198560
its post wwii american hegemony where as tea is british imperialism. largely grown in south america where as tea was grown in british colonies(and china). this is a modern map so imagine what it was like a century ago. also pushed for increased work productivity
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>>22198619
Its also because coffee takes long to cultivate and communist countries werent really in on it during the cold war.
Notice vietnam? They had a treaty with east Germany to produce coffee but by the time they were a viable producer the eastern block fell kek
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>>22198630
they're both 3-5 years
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Chai tea is okay
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>>22198982
It's literally just sugar milk water. I mean, it's hard to fuck up.
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>>22199329
don't forget the tea
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>>22197249
I really ought to drink more tea. It pisses me off I have a bunch of stuff just sitting in my cupboard. I have a box of spring red from last year that isn't as fresh because I just didn't finish it. I've been cold brewing it, then I have all the Japanese greens I need to go through
I always have eyes bigger than my stomach when it comes to this stuff but at least the Japanese is from this year and I figure I'll definitely go through a lot if it not all of it this winter.
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in what do you store your tea
I feel like pic rel is optimal
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>>22200118
thick multi-layer ziplock bags
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>>22199329
>literally just sugar milk water.
yum
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>>22200118
18L Cambro and a food grade 5 gallon bucket for overflow.
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>Do you know what they call a Jincha in Paris?
>They have the metric system, they wouldn't know how many Jincha are in a tong or jian...
>So they call it le pu-erh forme champignon
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>>22200851
>shaped like a mushroom
>call it "Mushroom shaped"
what exactly is the problem here
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>>22200919
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i powdered my green tea and im gonna cold brew it. based or cringe?
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I kept a gaiwan of ripe in the fridge for a couple days.
I drank some more of it just now and it tasted super super mouldy am I gonna be ok?
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>>22201524
moldy*
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>>22201526
no, that'd be american english I'm not american
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>>22201524
Did you spit or swallow? In either case keep an eye on your body. If you have symptoms of stomach upset, fever, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, blood from either end, lightheadedness or dizziness, or anything else feels off, go see the doctor, especially if you swallowed that sip. All things considered if you kept it cold instead of letting it sit out for a while, it probably didn't have sufficient bacterial/fungal growth to hurt you, but that's never a guarantee. Just be careful for now anon.
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>>22201556
oh I drank like 2 whole infusions of it lol I figured the cold wouldve stopped any fungal growth and the boiling water wouldve killed anything that had grown while in the fridge.
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>>22201625
you will live. i drank moldy coffee and survived even though i am immune compromised. fungus is far more dangerous on animal products
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>>22201634
yeah i figured any fungus on the tea would be more of the same fungus that was already growing on it before I brewed it
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>>22201524
It's also entirely possible it just tasted off because it was cold, old, and likely picked up random smells from the frigde. Unless you're 100% confident it was precisely a mouldy taste and nothing else, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Like shit if you had any camembert in the fridge that would probably make any tea taste like cheese fungus after a couple of days
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i am drinking my green tea cold brew. it tastes like grass. why didnt any of you warn me that this would happen?
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>>22200118
Mylar bags for beengs, glass jars for loose.
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>>22200118
For loose stuff I mostly use jars. Vacuum sealed if it's longer term. With sencha I often keep a small zip bag inside of a tin.
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>>22201809
it was the same black mould puer taste as when I first used the leaves just the mould taste got a lot more prominent.
I'm fine so far
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>>22203357
I don't think puerh tastes of mold. Maybe it was just overbrewed
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>>22203357
I'm used to liubao tasting like a wet basement, but pu-erh should taste more like mulch than mildew.
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I need a mug that won't get giga stained by tea. Does that even exist?
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>>22203969
Use a glass mug?
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can i make my own black tea by roasting green tea? has anyone here tried roasting tea?
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>>22204254
>can i make my own black tea by roasting green tea?
No, black tea isn't roasted green tea.
Enzymes in the raw leaves turn tea from green to black (oxidation) unless the leaves are heated up enough to destroy the enzymes. Green tea gets heated before it's allowed to oxidize at all, black tea isn't heated until after it's fully oxidized.
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>>22204254
Roasting tea is called "Hojicha"
It's worth trying, but it doesn't create a black tea flavor as the other poster has pointed out
You can do it at home or buy it already roasted
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>>22204292
oh ok, does it remove the grassy taste?
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>>22204371
Makes it kind of taste like toasted breakfast cereal. I don't know why, but it's very specific.
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>>22204377
cool, i will try it. i liked experimenting with toasted grain
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looking for a tea that tastes like this jpeg
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>>22204389
Hojicha blends into a toasted, nutty flavor
I'd recommend it and I'd also probably recommend trying Genmaicha which is similar but different
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over 10 years ago my ex saw me drinking loose leaf green tea in a glass mug. she laughed at me and told me it looked like river water. never drank tea again after that.
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>>22204441
4 coins liu bao

>>22204477
stop letting your ex live rent free in your head
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>>22204464
if i still have some barley syrup then i'll just use that instead of the rice
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>>22204227
Oh
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>>22204517
While I won't deny there's some room for fun/experimentation roasting your own green tea at home, I'd probably recommend buying actual professionally roasted Hojicha for your first experience to give you a good idea/baseline of what it's like
>barley syrup instead of genmai
I doubt it'd be bad but I also doubt it'd taste anything like Genmaicha
Again you can sorta try roasting rice at home for genmaicha but... despite the rising prices of genmaicha, it's still generally worth buying it from someone who knows what they're doing
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some 2003 7532 tonight
>>22191924
very cool, did you make this yourself? i ran out of 8653 tho rip
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>>22204495
thank you
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>>22204609
>2003 7532
Nice. I don't have a whole lot of experience with 7532 but I've really enjoyed the few I've had
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>>22204609
Thank you, I did.
Have a smol one as well.
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>>22204609
>2003 7532
How much for a cake? Pre reform Dayi is some expensive stuff
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FL has new cool map of tea regions
https://farmerleaf.com/pages/yunnan-tea-map
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>>22203969
Why? The patina looks cool
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>>22204441
Someone post the webm of the chink brewing leaves from the sidewalk
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>>22204788
the 7532 and the 8582 in the pic are the teaswelike ones but the 7542 is from a group buy so i don't know source/vendor, dry storage if that helps.
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>>22204441
>>22204865
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Sipping on this
https://farmerleaf.com/collections/yunnan-pu-erh-tea/products/spring-2026-donghe
Let me know if you want to know something specific about it
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>>22204978
Is it good? Any comparisons to other FL teas?
I'm having autumn lao man E today. 38$ / cake is rather cheap for some fun sheng with good mouthfeel
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>>22205160
It's nice, but at that price it better be.
It's very fragrant similar to mohei if you had that one, but more fruity than flowery. If not the think FZH way but more.
I don't notice any special mouth feel.
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I cant seem to be able to remember all the chinese tea names
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>>22204978
would you buy again or consider something else? also are there any structural nuances, like in the finish, that are worth noting? i ask cause my fl jingmai from 2023 kinda died in the finish, like it was zero taste or aroma. supposedly 2026 is a good vintage for tea and i'm curious how fl processed it. worth also setting aside a chunk to see how it develops over the years since 2026 potency, especially with that gushu can age even if processed for earlier drinking.
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>>22205271
>would you buy again or consider something else?
It's just a sample and I wouldn't since I'm not that big of a fan of fragrance heavy teas.
If I ever need a fragrance then I have the mohei cake(that one is quite unique tho)
>also are there any structural nuances, like in the finish, that are worth noting?
Not really. I didn't have anything new to me. I wouldn't say there is some sudden drop off or anything. After few cups there is a slight salivation, and some after taste but mild, nothing unique.
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>>22204441
Huangjin Gui
Unironic answer
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>>22205271
>my fl jingmai from 2023 kinda died in the finish
which one, the Miyun?
I think the autumn jingmai gushu is a big step up from Miyun if you care about things like aftertaste and body feel. for not much more money, it was like 60$ this year
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>>22204441
Without a doubt, you want qian liang tea. Bonus points for golden flowers.
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>>22205380
fall jingmai gushu, i dont remember what it was like way back then but not very impressive when i had it this year.
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stupid or brilliant?
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Much talk about Pu-Erh in this thread. Never tried it. How does it compare to black tea?
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>>22206296
very different, young raw is like green tea. ripe is like smooth thick dirt and wood
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>>22206212
>beans and leaves
id call it: america's neighbours
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>>22206212
Just tried something like this, with 6g of Xiao Fa and 2g of commodity medium-roast. It didn't make MUCH of a difference, but it didn't hurt.
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>>22206212
probably a gimmick. I heard some people liked a ripe cake with vanilla beans pressed in, that sounded kind of fun
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>>22206296
there is a lot of variety with pu-erh because of the autistic aging aspect of it. young raw / sheng puerh is more similar to a very strong green tea, aged raw or ripe is darker and more woody-earthy. closer to black tea but not that close
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>>22206476
>>22206299
Hmm well definitely have to try it at some point. Is there one you recommend for a beginner?
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>>22206498
if you want the green tea like young raw, try FarmerLeaf. they have samples. could try stuff like tang fang liang zi, huey wa, maybe sample some lao man E

if you want the darker stuff and don't mind buying more of one tea, check out the bestsellers on QuicheTeas. they have the best price to quality ratio. they don't really have samples for most teas though. they also have good cheap ripe puerh, V93 tuo is a good one to throw into any order as it's small and cheap
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>>22206522
Thanks anon. Will check out the names although unsure if these stores are in europe too but ill try to find equivalents
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>>22206535
they are not in europe, but it's usually cheaper to order from china to europe if you're buying chinese tea
but there are some EU puerh stores too. just not cheap ones
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>>22206550
>order from china to europe
Gotta try that at some point then.
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>>22206296
Puerh autism is basically like wine autism.
>minute differences between regions, subregions, individual farms
>autistic differences in aging, processing, even which warehouse has the tea been stored in for the last 10 years
So in theory no two different puerhs are alike. It's less well known than winefagging, but but it's pretty much the exact same thing as when you go to a fancy restaurant and they bring out the list with 800 different wines and some autists out there can narrow down the specific one they want for their meal.

Black tea doesn't have an aging or fermentation step so there's much less room for variety. Indian black tea in particular is super standardised and is all very similar; Chinese black tea does have some varieties depending on the region, time of year for harvest etc., so there's a good few different types you can try, but it's still not infinite different kinds like with puerh and the like.

In theory aged oolongs also have a similar amount of variety, and they can be roasted too. But niche oolongs for some reason are not quite as popular and the "tasting" culture for them is not as developed as puerh from what I can see. I feel like oolong is to puerh like puerh is to wine, if that makes sense.
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>>22206535
Almost all chinese tea is sold directly from china. It's not popular enough to justify western warehouses and storefronts, and international shipping is cheap enough nowadays. And a tea stock can last a long time so waiting 2-3 weeks for delivery is something you can easily get used to.

As a result the only western storefronts are basically building a business of "luxury exotic tea", and are selling shit at 400% markup by catering to normies who are too scared to order from a chinese website and can be easily duped into thinking it's premium and rare and actually costs that much. All the stores that sell the tea at actual market prices ship from china.
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>>22206556
>But niche oolongs for some reason are not quite as popular and the "tasting" culture for them is not as developed as puerh from what I can see
oolong autism culture is also highly developed, it just gets less hype in the west than pu-erh
especially yancha and dancong, they are in some aspects more autistic than pu-erh. oolong people will care about what master made it, what competitions it won, roasting levels, obscure varietals, core areas etc.

it's the most developed tea autism culture next to pu-erh. the whole gong-fu brewing originated from oolong autism and was later adapted to pu-erh
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>>22206556
Sounds kinda cool though. For me even the standard teas already have much variety and i only recently started discovering them more and more. Will definitely try it out at some point soon. So far i mostly drink oolongs
>>22206560
That does make sense yeah. Although so far im positively surprised of the quality of the stores here. Even physically we have a small cute tea store in my city that has some nice chinese variants
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Will China stop selling me tea if I start referring to my titanium gaiwan as a "tiwan"?
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>>22206565
You will hurt the feelings of one billion people
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>>22206563
Oh interesting. So it's just less visible in the west then.
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>>22206565
In chinese you would refer to the wrong metal since ti(e)means iron. As for example the tieguanjin
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>>22206570
Means "iron goddess of mercy" (and i accidentally posted too early)
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>>22206556
I wish more aged oolong was available to try, there's not that much and often it's kinda expensive.
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>>22206576
yeah, it's a huge blind spot in the western market. I hope we see more of it in the future. from what I hear in Taiwan it is not necessarily expensive or rare
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drinking 2025 autumn lao man E small trees from farmerleaf
gotta have the best mouthfeel for the price for a young raw. fun cake for 38$ for sure
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>>22206212
Seems like it would only work in this form because it's probably ass once the beans oxidize.
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has anyone here tried making their own matcha? i think it's weird how the coffee people all grind their own coffees but tea people mostly buy the processed stuff
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>>22206929
It can be done. The main reason is you need a shaded tea for the real stuff and traditionally it's stone ground.
https://yunomi.life/products/personal-matcha-stone-mill-large

You could buy a lot of matcha instead.

>coffee people all grind their own coffees
A good espresso grind is a pain in the ass and matcha is even finer.
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>>22207112
i will try sieving the powder to separate the finest powder and hopefully it won't be unpleasant when it expands from hydration
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For office lackeys what's a good quality thermos to keep water hot over the day for the sake of applying to short break room tea sessions?
I'd love nothing more than a chance to get burn through some teas but the only source of hot water is a rarely cleaned Keurig and I really don't want to be fucking with that.
Bringing hot water from home seems better at this point
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>>22207416
Zojirushi SJ-JS10
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>>22207416
Buy your own kettle and keep it at your desk.
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Currently drinking Arizona hot honey. Not bad
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>>22207416
you need something like this. https://www.amazon.de/Emsa-Isolierkanne-Edelstahl-Verschluss-schwarz/dp/B00J8JR9TY
and by you I mean every tea drinker, not just lackeys
if you need boiling, scold the thermos before pouring in the volume of boiling water.
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>>22207416
Just bring a replacement kettle into the office.
>>22207788
Tea drinker here, no I don't need this.
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>>22207841
you just haven't tried, you don't know
shame on you for being so surly
time goes by
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>>22207881
There is genuinely no usecase for me.
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so slowly
I'm hanging up on you
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Drinking from a Spring 2025 Fa Zhan He sample, it's lovely. 8th brew is pleasantly bitter, sweet, tart and has an enjoyable stonefruit note to it - I'd probably say apricot.
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>>22207772
I think my beef with hot honey is that it's never hot. I tried a hot honey sauce the other day made with habaneros (supposedly) and I could have drank it from the bottle. I'm not asking for much, but give me something if it's purported to be spicy, you know?
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>>22208291
make it yours elf with honey and dried chillis
i also made garlicy garlic honey by putting a bunch of cloves in a jar, it does a neat thing of becoming a bit more runny too
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>>22208030
It's good stuff. I hope it comes back in the future. Has a nice aroma
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>>22208315
garlic honey is great on pizza
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got my QuicheTeas order
>2008 8582
>2003 tibetan flame mushroom
>late 90s 7581
>2003 Dayi Jia Ji ripe tuo
>free sample of some 2005 Dayi ripe

already had a session with the 8582. very thick body on this and a kind of woody-herbal flavor with still a touch of bitterness. quite different from the 2010 7542 I also got from Quiche
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>>22203359
>>22203918
I guess mulch is a better description than mildew.
I don't mean it tasted like idk a mouldy peice of bread it just tasted of decaying plant matter but with a little extra aspergillus niger.
>>22203969
muttonfat jade porcelin
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>>22204477
sort ur shit out.
nobody should be basing their decisions on what women think not even women
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>>22209138
damn, looking good. I'd be interested in hearing about the 2003 jincha. Curious how it compares to the 2007 jincha that quiche sells relatively cheaply.
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>>22209472
I'll post about it when I have it. it's not that expensive either considering it's 2003 tea from right before the big pu-erh boom
I haven't had the 2007 jincha, but I have a few other raws from Quiche:
>2007 mengku sping tips / chun jian
>2010 7542
>2005 t8653
>2011 jinse yinxiang
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My dad got his bday present
So far he’s only tried the Oolong Qilan, and he really liked it!
He thought the “seduction for him” was a hilarious way to fulfill the “sexy tea” request
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>>22210006
>seduction for him
Lol'd. Really nice present.
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>>22204477
Pathetic.
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>>22204477
kek
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>>22207416
>Haha that anon guy is so weird he drinks from these small tea cups like wtf is this a girls party? Hes probably a gay serial killer why does he never come to starbucks with us. Lets write a complaint to HR
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>>22210822
That’s a weird fantasy
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>>22209138
first impressions 8582 > 2003 shroom and 2003 Dayi ripe tuo > 90s 7581
I will try the shroom grandpa style too at some point. it's very mellow
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What's up anons. Enjoying a ba xian dancong with some nitrous. Beautiful roasted rice flavor. Happy sunday yall
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don't buy tgy from w2t
sipping on their long haul and its just as dissapointing as the super green ones.
tastes like its not any more oxidized and they just roasted the fuck outta it.
main note is peaches with some light roasted almond notes.
theres also some plant smell in there but idk what plant, maybe rhododendron but I'm no sure.
its quite nice but for the price its not worth it at all
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>>22211710
are u inhaling the nitrous or is this some forbidden brewing technique I've not heard of before?
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>>22212492
Should have just bought from Teahome
Or if you want midroast TGY style oolong there is a box of it on KTM for like 6$. I hear it's a good one
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>>22212517
u mean box liek a kilo?
local chinese market has nice tgy £4.50/150g
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>>22212524
It was this one that I've seen recommended:
https://kingteamall.com/en-pl/collections/tieguanyin/products/2025-xiazhangpai-wu-long-cha-huang-dan-oolong-huangdan-125g-box-huang-jin-gui-fujian-province?variant=47655472824550

I guess it's huang jin gui, but should be similar to a TGY
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>>22212527
that does look good ill maybe get some soon.
this is the the one in last pic its my daily driver, looks like it has a similar balance of greenness and oxidation
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>>22212534
that looks like it smokes well
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>>22212576
xD
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>>22212589
smokeh da ganja Xp
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>>22212492
>don't buy tgy from w2t
Yeah I agree.
I had the 2nd (more roasted) batch of their three spot guanyin and thought it was pretty good (not better than teahome though) but overpriced.
I had a couple of their yanchas and thought they were actually pretty bad, not even just "not worth the price". Some of the only teas that have ever made me nauseous on an empty stomach.

And since teahome was mentioned, I've heard it said that they sell good "budget" Taiwanese oolong. But imo their heavy roast legend of tungting is one of the best Taiwanese oolongs I've ever had, period. If any of you know someone who has better high roast oolongs I'd love to hear it and try it, even if it costs a lot more
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>>22212603
You talking about the charcoal roasted legend of tung ting or the normal one?
I just bought these a few days ago. Excited for the aged oolong, I haven't had an aged one before.

I know there are actual fancy oolong specialists that probably have better stuff than teahome. But you will have to pay much more.
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>>22212736
The charcoal roasted one. Hope you like the aged oolong, I've posted about how I enjoy it a few times, but I don't think anybody else has mentioned it.
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>>22212496
i'm sipping it yes
but maybe I'll find a chai foam in my future
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Shoumei is the most autumnal tea, change my mind.
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>>22212880
Liubao
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>>22206565
You will be dead by dawn
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>>22212592
fermented/aged tropical sativa :3
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>>22212603
suprised other tea hasn't made u feel sick on an empty tummy but yeah ill avoid w2t unless its for cakes.
not a big fan of high roast but ill give legend of tungting a go if I order from them.
>>22212853
>sipping
interesting way to describe huffing nangs
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>>22214148
Legend of tung ting is medium roast desu. Far from stuff like seadyke
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>>22214226
>tung ting ting seadyke
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"Grandpa-style" is a charming name, but I feel like an idiot every time I try to explain it to someone who isn't into tea.
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>>22204441
The closest i can get you is this with: https://tecentralen.se/en/s-t-olavr.html
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>>22214269
"Brew it in the mug" is not that hard to understand
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>>22214269
>>22214280
I've never said "grandpa-style" irl and I never will.
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>>22214269
perpetual brewing, when the water is almost out refill with new hot water
>doesn't it over brew?
good leaf gives good tea
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>>22214148
I've never been sick from tea, it feels like a psyop honestly
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>>22212603
>>22214323
>nauseous on an empty stomach.
ive gotten stomach aches drinking raw purer and green teas before. some jap a few centuries ago wrote that matcha shouldn't even be drunk in the first year because its to harsh on the belly, which is counter intuitive to modern tea where the freshest of green tea is most desired for green tea
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>>22214273
that sounds like a lot of sex just for some tea
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>>22214226
ooh yummy
>>22214323
what types of tea do you drink? also maybe ur tummy is just never empty enough
>>22214326
hmm I've rarely had it from greens but that may just be a quantity thing.
the worst ones for me are black/red teas and ripe puer.
basically anything with a dark liquor seems to give me indigestion and if I drink a shit ton sometimes makes me whitey.
the whitey from tea is kinda reminiscent to when u do heroin with no tolerance idk if many ppl here will know what I mean by that tho xD
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>>22214395
>what types of tea do you drink?
Liubao, also liubao and liubao, sometimes a bit of liuan. I'm a man of autistically fixated tastes
>maybe ur tummy is just never empty enough
Now that I think about it I normally don't have tea before breakfast, but I do drink tea at all hours of the day including many hours after breakfast. But maybe I just happened to never really drink after really fasting.
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>>22214273
he wants decaying leaf taste not something a fucking elf would drink.
I hate how germans and scandinavians put all sorts of random shit in a bag and call it tea.
oh yeah fucking skittles, saw dust, thumb tacks, acetaminophen, evil eye glass beads, rose petals, lawn clippings and pine pollen mmmm just what I wanted when I asked for a cup of fucking tea
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>>22214400
if u don't have a sensitive tummy u can get away with several hours after eating.
try after like 16+ hours and you'll probably puke
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>>22214411
Will do, I'll report back
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>>22214409
Yeap, it feels like when you go north the line between tea and tisane starts blurring. My uneducated guess is probably because there's no way to grow tea up north and imports had to go further and were likely more expensive (we all know of the mediterranean spice trade ports, not so much the swedish spice trade for example), so there's just a culture of brewing whatever fucking random moss you find on a rock rather than the "real chinese tea(tm)" and it's carried over into the modern world.
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>>22214412
hmmm I wouldnt exactly reccomend it lol.
>>22214414
maaaybe.
but I don't think so, like frisian tea culture would vehemently reject the wacky bullshit u get in the rest of germany.
I'm pretty sure this shit of calling random stuff tea is a modern development and loads of them just fell for hippy dippy bullshit.
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>>22214400
>Liubao, also liubao and liubao, sometimes a bit of liuan
it's mostly sheng or greens that give people the owchies
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How is everyone’s work day?
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>>22214781
I'll take some legend of tung tung sahur to work tomorrow to grandpa style
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>>22214781
Quiet start but it's going to go to shit later on in the week when mandated power grid fuckery occurs on my shift and it's just gonna make everyones lives worse until next week.
But on the plus side I found a nice thermos and after giving it a really good clean vinegar and baking soda and a good bottle brush I now have a way to get properly heated water into my building for break time tea so that works out really well.
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>>22215029
How do you get the vinegar smell out of stainless steel?
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>>22215059
It didn't really linger. But that might be because it was a vinegar solution not a bunch of the stuff poured in.
About half a cup in two cups worth of water, let it sit for a little while to break up the old coffee stains, then I kept washing it. First with a baking soda solution then just normal water
By the time I was done it didn't have any form of smell remaining.
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>>22215073
Right, I can see the soda scrub neutralizing the odors.
Someone was asking for a 'use case' of hot water flask here before.
I see you have some hard hard water, ever tried using a softer one? If you have some expensive leaves in there it's worth a try.
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I've got two tetley tea bags in my sports direct mug with a splash of milk
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>>22215059
baby bottle disinfectant (essentially unscented bleach)
>>22215405
I can only enjoy such tea with heaps of sugar.
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>>22214822
>legend of tung tung sahur grandpa style
What a world we live in that this makes sense
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all the tea related youtube channels i know about are too professional its always connected to someone who is selling shit.
are there any channels that are just some autistic retard who is obsessed with hoarding tea?
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>>22216134
Basically just teadb
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>>22216004
Living in the West does have its perks.
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>>22216134
aaron j melton
he hoards gear and pipes more than the tea itself but it makes for a cozy vibe
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>>22210822
Bros, how do we overcome the stigma of tea being seen as a girly drink?
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>>22216286
I look at hei cha, puerh, fermented dank ass tea and I have no idea how it can be perceived as feminine. What girly drink has a non-zero chance of packaging with a rat skull or cigarette butt pressed into it?
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>>22216134
yeah the most notable one is teadb by far
they have more than 1000 videos, mainly about aged and ripe pu-erh, but other teas too
they also have a website which contains some highly autistic content such as this: https://teadb.org/in-debt-for-dayi-report/
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>>22216286
>>22216384
this is just a weird american thing I think, in tea drinking countries everyone drinks tea
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>>22216286
start wearing a dress faggot
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What are your preferences for cheap and frugal tea?

I'm low income and can't afford to drink nice tea every time.
Also, sometimes I just want a boost and it's more about drinking something and the caffeine. Less about fine taste.
For example, in the morning I sometimes just want a strong black tea. In the afternoons I'll drink the finer greens and oolongs.

I find the mass-market blends and teabags to be universally horrible. I avoid those.
I've found pic related to be very good though. UK supermarket. It's only £2.20 GBP per 125g.

The rest of the range (IIRC they do an oolong, assam, darjeeling) aren't good. But the Kenyan makes a nice strong black tea as long as it's not over-steeped.
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>>22216286
It's not where I live but people mostly drink sweetened black tea or rarely unsweetened black tea. I've rarely met anyone over the age of 23 that judges others for the food or drinks that they consume unless they're hardcore innawoods rednecks (and they only judge you for drinking shit like wine coolers).
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>>22216286
American "tea" is mostly iced milk tea and associated with starbucks boba tea type foids. This is uniquely american.
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>>22217627
American tea where I live is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2MsJNZzD9Y
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>>22217633
Ive never done it that way but I bet that's good shit

>>22217588
If you wanna mix it up a bit, the alwazah ceylon box is roughly the same price/g on amazon
It's hard to think of something that works out quite that good after shipping costs. Maybe gunpowder green
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>>22217627
I'm not an American, but I doubt that's true.
I'd say most Americans would think 'ice tea' before boba type milk tea.

Asian-americans might think boba maybe. Then there's probably a sub-culture of mentally deranged trannies who talk about boba tea because they're obsessed with hentai stuff - usually the sort featuring children like >>22216286
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>>22217648
I'm not much of a fan of Indian and Sri Lankan tea. I've always found it much lower in quality vs other regions.

I also avoid that region as I'm not confident about the hygiene and quality standards during processing. Plus, even if those were addressed, the pollution in the region (e.g. in the water table) is horrific. I've visited both India and Kenya and can say there is a huge difference. Sure, Kenya has it's problems, but the tea plantation regions I visited were actually very beautiful.

The experience made me very cautious about any food product from India.

>It's hard to think of something that works out quite that good after shipping costs
Yeah, the price per 100G is fantastic. It makes it a very good budget tea.
It close in price to large volume consumer blends. Not sure how they got the price so low.

I'm not sure if they still do the oolong. Only saw it once. That was £3.50 for 100G. Wasn't very good though IMO.
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>>22217666
Fair enough, given that constraint you might have the best choice already
Worth looking at a local asian supermarket perhaps, I've had pretty decent roasted oolongs from them at similar prices, but can't order these online and get the same price/g
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>>22217588
check if you can get seadyke brand oolongs
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>>22217666
What about Ceylon? I don't trust India either but is the island the same as the mainland or not
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>>22217672
>local asian supermarket
That's a good idea. Next time I brave my nearest big city I'll call into the Chinese supermarkets.

>>22217676
>seadyke brand oolongs
I recognise that packaging and logo. I will test some. Thanks.
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>>22217679
i think the problem gets worse the further u get from the north
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>>22217679
I've never visited Sri Lanka.
From what I hear / see, it is supposed to be better than India. Hard not to be sadly.
Probably still not great though, so I have prefer to avoid. Also, I find the same price of tea from China is typically far nicer tasting tea. So I don't buy it anyway.
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>>22217685
>I recognise that packaging and logo. I will test some
yeah these are a staple of cheap oolong, should be much better than oolong from western supermarket brands. just note that most of them are quite strongly roasted
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>>22216286
that's not a thing here
>>22216154
will check him out
>>22216198
tyty
>>22216388
:o
>>22217666
sri lankan tea is fine.
this one is very cheap u can get it in many uk arab shops for ~£5
ur right about India though
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>>22217837
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Why doesn't it look like golden monkey? It looks almost like dragonwell. Does it taste the same?
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>>22214323
>>22214395
The only tea that ever made me feel bad is overextracted jasmine tea or sencha that was brewed too hot.
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>>22218502
dragonwell is flat leaves these are buds. i've has a different brand and its good, malty black tea, fuzzy buds are a sign of good quality
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>>22218502
It's some kind of all bud black tea
I don't think golden monkey has a precise definition, it's just the name for any yunnanese dianhong style black tea
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>>22218502
Looks more like golden needle to me.
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Lads, how much volume are you actually pouring per brew in your gongfu sessions? Are you supposed to do 100ml?
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>>22219452
my gaiwan is ~100ml but leaf takes up volume so each brew i actually get less in my cup. all depends on how much tea you want to drink, if you brew your leaves 10 times thats ~1L. i personally like having a little cup of tea every 10mins or so as i watch anime or game

most gaiwans seem to be around 100-120ml, you can get 80ml but thats too small and 250ml is too large for me if im not just making 1 single cup of tea
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>>22219452
Gaiwan volume is generally measured to the rim, but you effectively have less volume because you don't actually fill to the rim (unless you're doing the wet kind of tea ceremony where you spill water everywhere). Plus what this anon said >>22219521 about the leaves. I personally prefer gaiwans that are around 150-180 mL so I can get roughly 100mL of brew per teacup.

T(ea). autist
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>>22209472
>>22209138
some thoughts on the 2003 tibetan flame jincha shroom after trying it a few times

I think this is a very mellow and aged tasting sheng that does well in a mug. mostly dominated by a rustic woodiness and even slight beetroot notes, if you like yeeon and liu bao you might enjoy this too. there is some fruity (apple / pear?) element peeking out and if there is smoke it seems very slight in my shroom. there is a little bit of astringency but it's hard / not possible to overbrew it

can't say I'm that impressed with it so far, but it's an interesting thing to try for reference and definitely very easy to drink for me
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Thinkin bout that Gyokuro, anyone got any good sources in the UK?
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Gyokuro for the first time in a long time.
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Feeling the Halloween spirit a little early, what hong cha have you had that's actually reddish?
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>>22220817
hibiscus tea is the most red
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>>22219452
The small teapot holds about 125ml of water plus the tea, the medium one about 175ml, and the big one about 265ml.
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Hey, shou enjoyer here. Tell me, is the Hong Kong wet storage a thing that will heavily affect the ripes in a more standard way? I ask this because i have a few entry cakes from Sunsing, Haysolon and Yee on Tea and in a way all of them always tend to give me the same notes of aroma and taste. Though i know that for most people all shous tastes the same, i get a bigger variety if i compare with my KTM ones.

Is that something that i will only notice once i buy the really expensive ones? Or its a real thing? Maybe i need to compare them together.
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>>22221813
>Tell me, is the Hong Kong wet storage a thing that will heavily affect the ripes in a more standard way
yeah I'm pretty sure HK wet storage imparts a pretty characteristic flavor on ripes and they will all have a similar profile if they sit in that storage for a while
>>22190013
this 90s ripe brick I bought recently clearly also has undergone HK storage at some point, doesn't taste exactly like the yeeon teas I have but they have a lot more in common than with other ripes
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>>22221823
Thank you very much for the quick answer.

Also, wanted to say that im really surprised with the V93 2009 iv got from KTM. It was literally my first Dayi. I wanted to get as many as small factory ripe cakes i could before tasting the creator of it. And let me tell you, they really are on a different level.
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>>22221844
NTA. It's hard to beat a good 7572, not even taking value into account. It's just good shou. I still need to try V93
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>>22190013
Is Wagh Bakari good? I want to try some Masala Chai made on the stovetop, but don't feel like buying all the spices. I'm trying to move over from coffee, but I like my coffee very dark and bitter and haven't found a replacement that works for me
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>>22221844
>>22221844
yeah, even their cheapest ripes are clean with a nice desserty flavor
>>22221855
V93 is good too and very cheap. can get a 500g bag for 20$ at quicheteas, 2019 so not even freshly made ripe
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>>22221813
how does this bulang taste? i like the packaging
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>>22220806
Gorgeous setup there anon. Hope you enjoyed it. It's been cold and wet here hardly outdoor drinking weather but it is ideal temperatures to sit in the kitchen corner with the stove going so its give and take I think.
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Am I allowed to post normie tea here or will people make fun of me? Peppermint is my favorite tea (pic not related) if anyone has a rec for the absolute best peppermint tea in the world
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>>22223177
Could try making moroccan style mint tea. They mix it with gunpowder green tea and they add a lot of sugar
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need a garbage bin in my room for leaf leftovers
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>>22223668
Use a laminated cardboard juice container.
Makes fantastic compost. Fill it up with tea leaves then bury that bitch.
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>>22223177
Tea is tea. It doesn't always have to be fancy.
Also, this general is very welcoming. Luckily it's one of the very few places left on all of 4chan not completely ruined by dickheads.

I'm a big fan of teasanes. Try buying some peppermint leaf. It'll be way better than cheap black tea with flavouring.

You can grow peppermint at home and make it fresh.

You can mix it with black tea at home and get a blend that is perfect for you. You can also mix it with other teasanes and/or fruit. It's really fun and you get exactly the taste you want.

Custom tea blends make nice presents for people too.
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>>22223746
>teasanes
I am no longer welcoming to you specifically
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>>22223959
PS:
Of course, the standard dose of autism is always present - it's inescapable.
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>>22224466
I have nothing against tisanes I just hate you specifically for spelling it like that
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>>22224544
I concur
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>>22224544
You're upset over a spelling error?
On a small part of a reply where I was being nice and polite to a newcomer. Not some shitpost or derail comment or anything.

I'm tired of 4chan. This place died long ago, but this general is the only thing making it worth my time to visit. Please don't fuck it up. I'm tired.
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>>22224637
Just a little ribbing. Don't lose your humor!
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>>22224637
You are a joyless faggot (on top of being illiterate)
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>>22224637
internetz, serious business



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