Cooklet here. Are the Fallow chefs on youtube legit good? Would following their recipes make me actually better at cooking? Apparently there's so many fucking midwits on that platform teaching the wrong techniques I need to be discerning.
>>22193759Yes they are experienced and technically adept. Anybody who says otherwise are bitter contrarians. They've worked with top chefs and have branched out on their own to create a few restaurants that are highly popular. Even their small tips are worth the consideration.
>>22193759youtube is worthless to learn actual cooking
They're very high level chefs. They try to make it simple for cooklets but their recipes are still very complex.
They have a restaurant in London, central London, so they would easily get priced out if they weren't at least somewhat decent.That said, they are utter twats up their own asses, lack even one Michelin star (to be fair, Michelin is a fucking poser charade these days and hand out stars to shit like Chinese noodle bars).They sold their souls to the YouTube algorithm, and only other mindless retarded cooklets learn from them.
>>22193771False. Chef John and Brian Lagerstrom have taught me a lot. Even Kenji even though he's a faggot.
Adult daycare for men with fathers who emotionally neglected them.
>>22193774>they're on YouTube therefore you cannot learn from them.Who the fuck are you exactly?
>>22193783Typical Michelin reviewer larper who thinks they're better than everyone else when it comes to eating fucking food.
>>22193776ah yes the xanthan gum cacio e pepe guy.
They are selling out harder with time to the algorithm and sales, shilling recipes that use their sold products more often. But the people they feature on the channel are clearly competent, without a doubt far far better than any anon here will ever be, and that alone will make people post in this thread pretending that they can't cook out of some weird bitterness.All that being said, they format their videos decently enough to explain techniques, so they wouldn't be a bad source for learning if what they cook interests you.
>>22193791Americans with find out any hacks for the traditional roman pasta dishes. We just can't fucking do it.
>>22193774>da algowivvumAh yes, you're someone whose judgement is sound. Teach me more sir.
>>22193771Lagerstrom is pretty good for learning desu.
There's a big difference between food entertainment and food education
>>22193802Sure but those two things are not mutually exclusive and the most effective educators make their subject interesting and entertaining.
>>22193805The interesting part is the teaching, the entertaining part is using the skills and recipes you learned irl
>youtubeeverything on youtube is questionable
>>22193802>>22193808What are you trying to say exactly? It seems like piss and wind at the moment, a flabby load of wishy washy words
>>22193814It's just a pretentious pseud
>>22193814Just saying there are YouTubers and food network type shows that are just food porn. There are definitely YouTuber shows that can teach you how to cook something you'll actually make.
>>22193808People are usually entertained by things they find interesting taught by someone who is competent in their craft. This holds especially true for fields/subjects that have artistic aspects to them like food. It feels like you're splitting hairs on definitions because you can't really disagree with what I said.
>>22193759my god just grill that fucking steak and boil the potatoes
>>22193891But where is the lamb SAUCE??
>>22193759>are the chefs in a famous Michelin star restaurant good at cooking Fucking retard
Must be nice to have your restaurant be so successful the only thing left to do is make YouTube videos for fun
>>22193783The generation of YouTube viewers today enjoy the clickbait, fast-cut actiony nature of Fallows YouTube channel.If you're part of the current younger generation, 16-28 years old, you're going to find them informative.If you're like me, Chef John is more your pace, he's been in the game for like 16 years now, and his format is old school youtube, just slower.You're a moron if you think Fallow aren't doing it for the money.
>>22193788At least I'm not a fucking cunt on 4chan who does nothing but insult others.I can fucking cook, unlike you.
>>22193961Chef John has recipes I still make that he posted on Blogspot like 17 years ago. Pretty crazy
>>22193799You don't understand how algorithms work yet you're telling me I'm wrong.Okay buddy. Maybe keep your mouth shut while adults are talking.
>>22193963I never said you couldn't cook, anon. Just that you were being a little pompous. God bless.
>>22193913I don't think they have a Michelin, AI Google told me.
>>22193972I don't think Michelin even matters anymore. Influencer clout is more valuable than some tire company's opinion.
>>22193961>th-they're d-d-doing for the m-m-money... th-that m-m-means you can't l-learn from th-themYou're one of the thickest pieces of shit on here. I was going to elaborate more but you'll be too obtuse to formulate a decent response. You're a complete idiot.
>>22193972They're only in the Michelin guide and that's largely due to the nature of their restaurants.
>>22193977Oh wow, I totally wasn't expecting you to pull that card, no sir, I have never experienced tolerating a narcissist ever before have I?Why do I fucking bother.>>22193981I would wager I am cleverer than you and you are simply buttmad I said Fallow just aren't worth my time. Go fuck yourself anyway for being such a rude cunt.
I don't know about cooking but their protip about storing berries is legit.
>>22193997Jesus dude I'm just having a conversation. I think there's more than one of us (You)'ing you too
>>22194002Nice try Fallow Faggots but I will just Google instead.
>>22193759they’re OKstyle over substance. the techniques are good, but the explanations are lacking. I always have to consult another source after watching one of their videos to learn why they do X other than Y for reasons beyond >IT’S JUST THE MICHELIN WAY, OK???
my mom thinks i deserve a michelin star :')
internet shaquille is good but he keeps making retarded videos and is gay asf
>>22194409I'm glad you have a supportive mother, anon
Bros acting like it isnt legitimately impressive to open a new mid/high end restaurant and have it be wildly popular during a brutal economic slump Thats why their channel grew, because the proof is in the pudding.Average restaurants fail
>>22194737Well, take advantage of a situation to make your life better.
>>22193759There's not much you can learn from them because they do high-end restaurant style cookery. Everything they do is very high effort and expensive as fuck, and not worth it, if you're cooking for one or two people.
It's a little embarrassing to own a successful restaurant and just do YouTube on the side, isn't it?
The only thing that I have learned from watching fallow chefs is to use way more butter than what is necessary, and to use a cartouche on top of whatever it is that you're cooking. Otherwise, there are better resources to learn how to cook.Or you can just wing it and get fucking gud at learning which flavor combinations pair well. If you want to cook a specific dish, then go on le interwebs.
>>22193759They are very good at what they do but what they're doing isn't home cooking or really suitable for a home cook. It's cool and interesting to watch and you can certaintly pick up some general cooking knowledge by listening to the talk about specific techniques or flavour combinations but unless you're planning to work in a high-end kitchen you would be better off listening to Chef John or Brian Lagerstrom if you want to get better at cooking things you actually will cook in an everyday setting.
i don't think they're very good for learning it's mostly entertainment but you can find inspiration
>>22193997You're retarded, stuck up and dense. Go figure. How about you play in traffic instead before you try to insinuate you're better than everyone on an anonymous cooking board.
>>22194841>flavorOK I'll probably disregard
>>22193759I think it's funny how obsessed with Americans they are lol
>>22194849I've recently watched some videos where it's specifically for "at home" with no special equipment needed. A "for instance" would be the sausage rolls. Obviously some processes are still a fuck around to do, but I suppose that's the point between making something good and making something very good. Those sausage rolls are very achievable at home, but I couldn't be fucked to try.
>>22194973Yeah, they did a chicken pie one recently that looked both great and achievable. I have it in mind the next time I want a project meal on a weekend.
their most recent content is basically >we have high end equipment and can buy premium shit, lets make epic borgirreally useful info is still there, but its spread more thinly between more clickbaity momentsif something isnt a designated followalong recipe video, dont expect a followalong recipe
Jewtube actually let's you show which chefs are worth a shit, if they don't show knife work, you know theyre not worth trusting and are just gaming the algorithm to promote their mommy blog.
>>22193759There stuff from about a year ago (2024-2025) is pure kino.The new stuff they're doing is too clickbaity.
>>22193961Chef John is one step above mommyblogs, honestly.
>>22195103*Their stuff Allegedly someone taught me English, but you wouldn't believe it.
>>22195106Chef john has experience in the industry, you think this way because he is skilled at making that knowledge easy to digest for the average person and he doesn't put on airs.
>>22195110Pardon me if I don't take the guy making Chicken Cordon Bleu Casserole super seriously.
>>22195118>Chicken Cordon Bleu CasseroleDid he really attempt that?Sounds fucking grim.
>>22195141https://youtu.be/VKXYTsA0P6k
>>22195118You're pardoned for your mistake.
>>22195145Depraved. Absolutely disgusting.
>>22193759>Are the Fallow chefs on youtube legit goodYes, for a certain style of fine dining.>Would following their recipes make me actually better at cooking?In general some of their tips and techniques will, yes, a lot is only going to give noticeable benefit at significant scale you shouldn't try making stock for 20 hours for example there's far better low hanging fruit to improve. Also recommendations like 'go ask your butcher for huge amounts of free bones and off-cuts' isn't practical in many places, often where traditional butchers exist they might sell you the stock made from the same instead.They're really more like the youtube equivalent of watching old cooking shows that pretended to be cookery courses. You'll pick up little bits here and there but it's 80% entertainment of watching someone good at their craft and that's fine don't delude yourself into thinking it's real structured learning.
>>22194305>style over substance. the techniques are good, but the explanations are lacking. I always have to consult another source after watching one of their videos to learn why they do X other than Y for reasons beyond I've come to learn that cooking and medicine are two fields where the people who are really good at it do a lot of things because that's just the way it always is and don't question why. They don't really have the learning from first principles or they've been taught old wives' tales and keep repeating them. Shit like constantly stirring risotto or whatever.
>>22195032>heckin rebbit knife skillerinosits a bit of dead air that can be cut out easily, dont need to see le how to chop a onio faec 6 million times over
>>22193759the guy on the left got a hair transplant and now his face is always flush red
>>22195301Every Bong past 30 has a 50/50 chance of going tomato mode.
>>22195301>>22195314yeah you just get that after drinking pints for 15-20 years
>>22193759For the most basic stuff, yes. If you want to dig deeper just buy some old French cookbook like le guide culinaire. The recipes are extremely streamlined. They will tell you how to cook steak, roast or fowl and then give you myriads of recipes with it. Also old school sauce recipes are superior. No stupid shortcuts or random chemicals. You will need endless amounts of fonds though.
>>22195301>>22195314>>22195443Nah fock off. I've been tanking it for 20+ years and that hasn't happened to me. It's misfortune.
>>22193759Obviously they’re a business, they want to make money and they do have a high end social media team. That said they give a lot of money to charity and they’re setting up a foundation to get young people into the profession (yeah, I know there’s a tax angle to that). My parents eat at Fallow on a semi-regular basis, I’ve never been.
>>22195521I went once when I was in London. It's legit - very, very nice. Probably should have a star if it doesn't already. They seem like good guys too. They know their shit and don't seem to buy into the whole Gordon Ramsay "you need to be a psychotic cunt to be a good chef" persona.
>>22193759>brits>"""""chefs"""""
why use YouTube when books existalso, any professional chef pissing about jestering for the subhuman slime who watch YouTube cooking videos are not putting enough of themselves into their craft so should be avoided
>>22196346Why read a book describing something imperfectly when you can watch a video of it being done 1:1? That's very obviously a better learning medium for techniques.
>>22196346It's one of the few forms of knowledge that YouTube is better at imparting that almost anything else. A book can teach you steps but it can't teach you techniques. Also almost every youtube cook provides the written recipe too, so you lose nothing.
>>22193759They're very good, but around 70% of their advice/videos are completely useless for the average person/homecook, that being said there's a lot you can learn from a technique perspective.
>>22193759They are very good and any retard on here trying to tell you different is a cringe poser.
>>22193759They are bri'ish chefs so they suck. They just have this mentality to them of mediocrity where no dish ever needs to be made better. They make slop and they do it because ''this is how it's made.''I've watched their stuff and there is zero pride in the craft. Their whole attitude is just gross. I've lived in the UK and everyone acts like them. The way they treat food just rubs the wrong way.
>>22193913They have worked at Heston Blumenthals michelin star restaurants, but their own does not have a star.
Never trust bong chefs, they ruined ikea meatballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x01oGoVH6M
>>22196901>"wahhh, and the waitress didn't even grin at me and tell me to have a nice day - my whole holiday was ruined!"And the most obvious amerishart award goes to...
>>22196901>I've lived in the UK and everyone acts like them.Then I woke up . . .but it was real in my mind.
>>22196911At least she didn't charge him 50% tip.
>>22196901...and then everybody clapped
>>22193961Woah, they make money? Clearly they can't teach me anything worthwhile. Oh well, back to my vedic cookbooks I go...
>>22197146>printed papercapitalist scumyou should only use recipes that you overhear in passerby conversations or that have been carved into a wall
