Michael Sugrue editionThread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.If you're new and confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLzIf you're old and confused, that's okay too.Previous thread: >>22193377
im not currently drinking coffeecan i still post or do i have to wait?
>>22201958you atleast hiffin on a moka tea or sum?
>>22201962no...
'presso
WHO??
>>22202090https://youtu.be/VwBPRFADFx4Have you listened to め yet, Anon? Best idolmaster song in years
Fuck off and take it to an appropriate board.>Currently brewing La Esmeralda 72hr anaerobic
just bought my first greens. sneed em or feed em?
>>22202104great song, mister
reminder than on-topic anime posting is encouraged here
>>22202110i'm gonnna need the tasting notes on all that
>>22202121at least one of them has chocolate notes
i picked one of them just because it said it tastes like thai peanut sauce
Sorry, gents. I would have made the new sooner, but I didn't have coffee in hand until just now.
>>22202124i'm not seeing anything from thailand in your order, anon...
>>22202129it's a real mystery. maybe theres more to these "flavor notes" than I've previously assumed...
perhaps something nefarious
artificial thai peanut sauce flavor....
>>22202124it's the brazil, isn't it?
>>22202147i see you are an expert taster as well.>I sensed Thai peanut sauce, nut brittle, with notes of brown ale, with dense, dark, rustic cocoa behind it. My favorite roast for brewing was Full City, though a slightly lighter level reveals more of the umami characteristics and a hint of aciditywho knew brazil had so much umami
all this to say 'it tastes nutty'
i dutch processed my coffee
just bought a Chemex, any tips or anything I should expect before using it?
>>22202190Grind coarse. Big doses.
>>22202168Its a low altitude brazilian natural. Its going to taste like funky nuts.
>>22202190>just bought a Chemexthank you
>>22202190dont use filters that arent made specifically for chemex. >>22202194 is correct. i usually have good results with the hoffman method as outlined in the pastebin
>>22202209you're welcome, enjoy it!
if you're supposed to rest 2-3 weeks how are you taste testing? can you just take a little off the top after like 24 hours to see if it's good?
>>22202251cold brew it
interesting...
Got picrel a few weeks ago, it is fun. Gives a lot of control over the brewing, never used a coffee maker that was as versatile. So far my favorite is putting the reducer in for the least amount of coffee with full amount of water, fairly fine grind and having the valve open just enough so it just trickles out, exceedingly good normal cup of coffee. Have yet to figure out how to make a good mokapot sort of coffee, but getting closer. It does surprisingly well at espresso once you get things dialed in, better than some of the espresso I have had from well regarded places with fancy and expensive espresso machines. Cup pictured did not turn out so good, alright but I was trying to get a good picture (failed) and did not notice I had the valve open too far and forgot to turn the burner down to keep the element from cycling. Haven't used the steam wand much yet, not much for milk in my coffee, but it is nice to have for when the mood strikes.
what the hell is it
>>22202271Bellman Cx25 I think.
>>22202190Watch out for the filter collapsing into spout thing or what ever it is called, it will burp coffee out onto the counter when that happens. Mostly only an issue with finer grinds. >>22202282Yup.
I love mosnter energy
i like how it looks like a tank for bioweapon disposal chemicals
>>22202316you're sick
>>22202267doofenshmirtz ahh device :skull:
>>22202321they have coffee flavors
>>22202267oh manhe was really holding it in
>grind coarser>a whole new world is revealedi have finally unlocked the ethiopian
brownie with my evening coffee it lush
yummuy
whats the extra u for?
the palendrome effect amplifies the sentiment of yummyness
Which one would ferment the best coffee?
gotta be hindgut
what's a russian gunship doing here?
do not the capybara
ill just take a lil sample
decided to grind this Bolivia a bit finer(1 single click to be specific)all the grass notes are gone, and now its full on cacao nibs granted its probably also to do with the fact its resting more as i opened it a day earlier than i was meant to.and that was 2 days ago
no espresso makes me depresso
i WILL the capybara
i saw an asian energy drink the other day that said excessive consumption could worsen depression and now i wonder if that applies to coffee too.
>>22202528Caffeine actually helps those with ADHD. I find that popping a pill in the mornings usually makes me have a nicer day. And not shit so much as 2 shots of presso make me do
>>22202543>ADHDwoman mental illness
oh ok
possibly terrible question BUTis there any good drip machine?
>>22202543Shitting is good for adhd.
>>22202657what do you mean by that?
>>22202660a drip coffee maker that makes non shit coffee, unlike the $50 shit from amazon.
PISSOUTMYASS
>>22202657Second hand ratio, moka master or breville
Where can I get good coffee in the US without breaking the bank? Trade is kind of ridiculous at 20+ per bag
Maybe it's time I accept that adding a fake crema valve to a moka pot was a retarded idea and it was never going to produce anything but overextracted coffee.
>>22202657https://puresteelco.com/products/puresteel-coffee-maker
>>22202666good to see you
>>22202673how much lower are you trying to go and what is your brew method
>>22202697AeropressI'd say $12/13 per 9oz bag
>>22202682>medical grade steelno thanks. I think I'll wait for titanium.
>>22202679Crema valve? If it is over-extracted you used too much water.
>>22202673check out roasters that are local to your areaif that's still too expensive, buy the cheapest greens you can get your hands on and start stovetop roasting
>>222027029oz is at least 14 cups of coffee so if you're trying to get a cup for under $1 you're gonna be stuck with lower quality beans.you can absolutely find some freshly roasted beans at a local roaster for around $16 for 12oz. other than that just look for sales on independent roaster beans at the upper class grocery stores. just dont ever buy anything without a marked roast date, ideally within the last 4 weeks.and dont buy anything from colombia.
>>22202706>Crema valve?Talking about the brikkaAlso if I put in less water it tends to shoot coffee out violently, maybe the air was expanding too quickly. Anyway that almost certainly meant there was channeling.I'm chasing that slow flow, moderate temperature output like I've always had with a moka pot but this thing isn't making it easy.
guarantee there's someone nearby offloading greens for dirt cheap pricesfind them through your local buy/sell message board and get to roasting
i can relate
>>22202741>there's someone nearby offloading greens for dirt cheap prices>find them through your local buy/sell message boardi dont think we live in the same kind of country
you live in the kind of country where primo beans fall off random mopeds?
the primoest
>>22202671>mokaits mocca
>>22202733>tends to shoot coffee out violentlyi miss her so much...
i get a far stronger caffeine rush from grinded tea compared to grinded coffee
yeah there's somn bout tea caffeine
yeah, that happened the first time i moka'd teahasn't happened since need that headrush
>>22202751james...
>>22202757it must be that L-theanine
one time i was hiking in the coastal mountains, and i found a whole thicket of blueberry bushes full of ripe fruiti hope to stumble upon wild coffee some day
if I'm ever in a country where coffee grows wild I'm probably very close to death
>>22202769cause of the uncontacted cannibal tribes
Mocca Raton, Florida
>>22202765idk i have some L-theanine pills and they don't do SHIT
>>22202779did you try mixing it with the caffeine pills?
caffein... pills?
>>22202733Finer grind and/or packing it down?
huh, grinder? what are you gay?
....I HARDLY KNOW HER!
>>22202911
why did france get the blame for burnt coffee?
...to get to the other side
>>22202952what the fuck are you talking about?
>>22202960you must be new to coffee
we still telling jokes?
buROONdi guhHAhey
Guys I got a serious problem...
>>22203023only uncaffeinated people have problems
...then you better go catch it!
>>22203029I can't caffeinate because I don't have coffee gear...
your emergency instant?
>>22203038WELL START EATING BEANS THEN!
>>22203050I only have decaf beans I used to make an amaretto/coffee infusion...
>>22202318pretty sure the boston bombers used it
Picked up some prolog yesterday
>fermented colombia
>wanted to get into pour over>wedding finally over>slowly starting to decide what gear I want>kinu grinder>booko scale>origami and kalita>some kettle idk>just got a gf on my birthday>she doesn't like filter coffee>I prefer espresso myself but I don't want to buy a gaggia and I don't want to make lattes and cappuchinosDamn I kind of don't want to buy anything now, if she's not going to enjoy it too. It's not worth it for just myself...
>>22203363fag
>>22202939they ship RAZORS to your home!
>>22203401How am I a fag if I have a gf???
>>22203475There's a difference between a fag and a homosexual. You're the latter.
>>22203489How am I a homosexual if I'm attracted to women and have sex with women that also doesn't include pegging?
>>22203363swap for an electric grinder and get a machine down the linemaybe you'll even find an used silvia for a good price
>>22203490Michael Jackson has several kids and was married. Still a homofaggot.
>>22203490>pegging out of nowhereCalled it.
>>22203475you talk like a fag
>>22203491I have to travel for my gf at this current moment. She lives in my hometown. I could get a Flair or some shit?>>22203495I'm Anon Anonson though.>>22203502You called someone to peg you? Dam twin you gay
>>22203510Thats not going to help you with girlfriend experience caps and lattes.
>>22203510Yeah there are more options for portable espresso now even ones that heat water for you.
>>22203510
>>22203363>asks about all this pourover shit to impress his girlfriend>she doesnt like pourover>immediately stops caring about pourover and wants to move to espressoi told you you were only in it for the pussy and dont actually care about coffee. now stop blogposting about your gay girlfriend you fag.
>>22203516>>22203513Ugh I'd need to learn to make latte """art""" and get some portable device for milk frothing idk...
>>22203540>asks about all this pourover shit to impress his girlfriendUntrue. It was for myself. I have a gf since 5 days ago.>immediately stops caring about pourover and wants to move to espressoI've always liked espresso more, except I never wanted to buy a fucking machine for it.>i told you you were only in it for the pussyI was literally on no pussy until 5 days ago and I've been researching coffee gear for months.
>>22203553>>22190281you were just asking about this shit because of your 5 day old gf 2 threads ago.
Imagine being a merchant as your next shipment of slave-grown coffee beans slowly approaches on the Indian Ocean... haggling with Ottoman wholesale buyers over allocations... damn
>>22203555This guy man lmao
>>22203507This and also your shit's all retarded
>>22203555No, I've been constantly asking for months. Since literal spring.
>>22203566imagine the defective beans...
they grow earl grey tea in columbia?
uh oh....
drinking cold coffee from 2 days ago. it's peak.
it is not
thoughts on brewing 2,100 grams of coffee at once with The Big Joe dripper?
perfect for your Big Ass Mug
>>22203739Thats 2.1kg of brewed coffee right?
>>22203363The kinu and lido are the og espresso hand grinders.
>>22203739Its good for the tisms because it has the correct amount of wall ribs to allow each individual fold on the bunn filters to rest between them. For some reason other manufacturers like bonavita haven’t figured this out.
>>22203835no idea
the thrift store had 5 air poppers but only 1 had the vents arranged in a suitable way for coffee and it had no lid and was the most expensive.they would not haggle with me.
>>22203881>not building your own diy roaster out of hardware store partsPathetichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ig-jS5mTeI
>>22203739
going down a rabbit hole I did not want to go down. Are the E&B filters for the moka pot actually worth it? What about the E&B classic moka pot? That thing is expensive, anybody try it?https://www.eb-lab.coffee/moka/classic-moka-pot
>>22203983how am i supposed to rao spin in this
>>22203983your filters are too puny for the joe
>>22203881When I get in the mood to roast coffee I just do it in my skillet. You have to stand there and stir but that is not so big of a deal. No need to complicate things. I am glad I got into this stuff before the memes.
>>22203979i dont think my hardware store has any of that stuff....
>>22204019i have a whirlypop already but it can scorch, or bake, and it's recommended to use at least 1/2lb at a time. so i want to have the air popper too. that way, while I'm new and bad, i can stretch greens out between more batches and not have as much possibility of scorching or baking. it's nbd the air popper was only $7
>>22204022A cheap temperature probe would probably help a lot.
>>22204039i have a small instant read thermometer I'm going to use for the bottom of the pan. I'm just worried about hot spots since the whirlypop is thin aluminum.i saw you can mod the pan by drilling a hole and sticking the probe inside so i might try to do something like that.
>>22204022>put beans in skillet>turn on heat>stir>toss a few times to cool things down if temperature gets too highBeing able to hear and see the beans will help a great deal in learning. A wok is great for larger quantities. >>22204053Really glad I got into this before everything was on the internet. When I decided I wanted to learn to roast coffee I just walked in a local roaster and asked if there was someone I could talk about it. Spent a couple hours there and helped roast some beans, he answered all my questions, told me to just use a skillet, and gave me a few pounds of green beans to get started with.
>>22204076>A wok is great for larger quantities.i asked about a wok last thread and (You) told me NO.>When I decided I wanted to learn to roast coffee I just walked in a local roaster and asked if there was someone I could talk about it.yeah that's why i come to the bean knowers at /ctg/
man this chinese food really brings out the hot cocoa notes in this ethiopian
>>22204096Wok is nice because you don't have to worry about the heat much, just like cooking in a wok you just stir faster so beans spend less time in contact with the metal where the heat is, but I found skillet easier for less than a pound. As the anon alluded too, you probably don't want to use a well seasoned and heavily used high carbon wok, there will most likely be some flavor transfer. I used my room mates cheap non-stick wok. I still prefer the skillet, you can see the beans better in stainless and I like watching them roast. It took some practice to get the skill down but not much and I don't need more single use gadgets cluttering up the kitchen. It is mostly about keeping the beans moving and easiest if there is more than a single layer of beans in the pan.
Has the roasting chaff set things on fire yet?
gwelio don't season their cafei beans rmao
>>22204013my filter-plate-replaced-with-an-aeropress-filter moka works great for tea if that's what you're asking
>>22204022>>22204053Buy a cheap heat gun, drill, and fan at harbor freight. Buy a cheap colander. Cut a hole in the top of your popper to fit the heat gun and a hole for the thermometer, attach the drill to the handle. Start the drill, cut heat gun on, roast, dump into colander placed over the fan to cool. If you don't want to hold a drill then just buy a planetary gear motor and a flexible shaft coupler. They are both pretty cheap.
can i store, rest coffee inside this mr. peanut jar or is that suboptimal? i would keep it in a dark cupboard. it seems somewhat airtight. it is mr. peanut, which is why i ask.
>>22204177how exactly is this better than the air popper? both are just beans agitated in hot air.I'm not opposed to doing it DIYing myselfing it but this seems like at least an extra $60 for something that is not exceptionally different from what I have.
>>22204221Well I was trying to help you improve what you already have for a few bucks rather than buying something else though I guess the biggest advantage is you can do up to a lb in a HGWP and will usually be doing multiple small batches in a popper and have to wait between roasts. Poppers also can vary a lot depending on your outlet and how long your extension cord is and are impacted more heavily by outside temp. Frankly I wouldn't recommend poppers to anyone because they are a waste of money. Either you buy and it makes you hate roasting so you stop using it or you buy it and like it and very quickly want to get something better. If you are on a budget and can't even get like a refurb SR800 + blemished ext tube then normally I would suggest a heat gun/bread machine if you want something cheap/easy or a heat gun/flour sifter if you have the tools to do a bit of DIY but since you already have a whirley pop its just cheaper and easier to mod it rather than buy the stuff for one of those.
>>22204221Also heat gun solves the problem of scorching on the bottom and with the drill or motor gives you a more even roast. You aren't going to be scorching or burning unless you push past 2nd crack.
kek
>>22204234>>22204238i am open to heat gun tech, i just wanna try this stuff i have on hand first. if i can manage the unmodded whirlypop without scorching or baking, and get better at conduction roasting in the process, that would be ideal. but i also have been looking at the sr540 or the sr800 as an upgrade if and when i still want to do this after a couple months so i dont necessarily plan to stick with this equipment forever.
>>22204260That's fair enough. If you do decide to upgrade skip the SR540 and get the SR800. I would skip the newer SR900 too. Get the refurb SR800 and the blemished EXT tube (the EXT tube or Razz tube is pretty much essential) and use the money you saved to buy a Bounce Buster so you can hook up Artisan or Roastmaster.
>>22204320good to know. I'll keep an eye out for refurb as homeroastingsupplies doesnt have any in stock atm.>buy a Bounce Buster so you can hook up Artisan or Roastmaster.i dont really know what these softwares do but right now I'm thinking i probably dont want to go this high tech. the thought of hooking my computer up to roast coffee sounds unfun to me.. but maybe one day.
>>22204013>Are the E&B filters for the moka pot actually worth it?yes>What about the E&B classic moka pot?yesim using it right now in fact
>>22203983beautiful
the joke is that burnt coffee is called french roast. hope that helps
>>22204474
in soviet russia coffee roast you
day 10 of trying out the brikka, it still sucksguess I'll cuck out and put in less water next time, at least it won't burn the coffee.
>>22204199perfect for some brazil
>>22204514fake. it's played in reverse.
>>22204410and can you tell a difference from a standard Bialetti moka pot?
>>22204721yes
Does a bottomless portafilter actually improve espresso that much? I have a regular spouted filter and I'm thinking about getting a bottomless one.
>>22204786it doesnt change how it brews at allit just allows you to see what is happening on the bottom which can be helpful to diagnose some problem you may be havingalso it looks pretty
>>22204786>bottomless portafilteri searched this up on duck duck go and went to the images without safe search turned on
>>22204786Single spout is unironically meta for high flow/short convex/messy baskets. I like my normcore 3 in 1(bottomless/single/double spout).https://www.normcorewares.com/products/normcore-3-in-1-espresso-portafilter?variant=44812773392632
midnight moka?dont mind if i do
>>22205049its 8am though
>>22205068and?
>>222050808am is not midnight, ESL
>>22205092you can have a midnight moka anytime anon
>>22204790why's it do that?
>>22204790lmao
>>22202267What is this thing?
>>22205346gen 2 brikka
>>22204199Zesty glass nigga
>>22205346Pretty much a moka pot that gives you control over the pressure and has a steam wand. It can make coffee anywhere from a regular everyday cup of coffee up to something quite close to proper espresso.>>22205354I understand that you are upset about your brikka but that is no reason to lash out.
im onna make a coffe
>>22205484>quite close todropped
>>22205488Lucky bastard
anyone else cut open the keurig capsules and dumps it out into your regular setup?
>>22205494It is not an espresso maker, what do you expect? It does a better job than most things sold as espresso makers but are not espresso makers, especially things like the flair, which always disappoint me. Bellman makes something that reminds you a great deal of espresso but is not espresso. Sad thing is that it can't seem to do a good moka pot style coffee, I was really hoping for it to be exactly like a moka pot but with more control, it is very much its own thing. >>22205514If I run out of coffee I steal a couple from work and do that.
really nice tobacco notes in this sumatra kenya blend. not really pipe tobacco more like a cheap cigar. i wonder if brewing colder will make it taste more like pipe tobacco
>>22205514grim
Every year i try coffee once and every year it tastes icky
>>22205528if you have a good palate, try better coffee. if your palate is not very good, start with something like a pumpkin spice latte with one extra shot of espresso.
>>22205534It doesnt matter. I dont like the general taste. I try the normal coffee normal people drink.Its no use.Next year i will try ir again and still not like it.I think ill stick with other things
>>22205537cold brew light roast
should you agitate your cold brew?
>>22205590i give it a twirl, otherwise the grounds haven't sank to the bottom by the time i drink it
>>22205537try better coffee>>22205516what disappointed you about the flair? which one?
>>22205605The big problem with the flair style for me is the water cools off too much, I love that first too hot sip. Other than that I could probably get coffee I would be happy with from them with a little experimentation but never felt they justified the expense or counter space. I have no idea which models I have used/had coffee from, I know a few people that have flairs or that other brand of the same style, have that sort of coffee a few times a month when visiting.
Remember to take your B vitamins.
nah. i aint doin that.
have you ever had a pour over from a coffee shop that was actually better than one you'd make yourself
>>22205690>water cools off too muchSo your friends just aren't preheating(enough).
>>22205777i have never had coffee from a shop
weird
so is flair still good or did this guy crack it
>>22205811They're great.
okay I'll buy one right now
>>22205791>states obviousThat little water tank can't hold much water and cools off fast.
>>22205875My stove cooks really shitty eggs when I don't turn the heat up.
what thread am i in
egg coffee thread
>>22202144I was just thinking of thai peanut sauce earlier wtf
>>22201952I want a superautomatic coffee machine.What should I get?
another day, another broken brikka brewmaybe next time if I cut earlier it'll worki'm down to my last grams of beans
>>22206050what's so super about it
Why is speciality coffee full of outlier/fringe people? Everyone in and around the speciality coffee industry seems to have more than a few screws loose.
>>22204790
>>22206074easy to learn, tough to master. widespread enough to draw in all types but deep enough to breed otaku.
>>22206074>why is fringe thing full of fringe peoplegee i wonder...
everyone drinks coffee, chud
1% of all the coffee drinkers you know knows anything about coffee
the psychoactive effects of caffeine are severely understated
>>22206090retard
>>22206115zip it, narc
>drink coffe>drink more coffe>Overdose onm coffe>get tension headache and genral headache due to iti could probably take the same amount or more in pure caffeine and it wouldn trigger tension headaches to that levelthe toxic bean juice really do be toxic i think
>>22206367you are weak
>>22206367get checked for high blood pressure
I think I'll make an espresso.
rightthat'll do ya
grim
Why so grim all the time? We should try to be happier
>>22206733I said I have a gf and all of you got mad.
>>22206705Mine was bretty gud. Newbery Street Thai sunda gesha, pcl cylin pro + 909s. Ran quick at ~90micron gap but I had just done a full cleaning so its to be expected. I'll push it way harder at 800rpm next.>>22206739I've told you what to buy for like 6 months now, you never buy anything, never make coffee, and you keep coming back to ask the same questions.
lmao this dude wants us to know about his girlfriend so bad
>>22206746You told me what grinder to buy, but not what scale and kettle though.
scales and kettles don't matterthey all work
yeah you should probably get a kettle that connects to your wifi and gets frequent updates though to be hones
>>22205043I ended up getting a cheapo capefei 58mm bottomless portafilter, works pretty good no channeling on the first pull and the crema is ridiculous. Took about 27 seconds for 18g. Was fun watching the espresso come through the basket.
>>22206752And drippers and carafes and filters etc etc etc. Stagg Ekg. Acaia pearl(or lunar for eventual espresso usage)
>>22206752>but not what scale and kettle though.retard
my greens came a day early and they gave me this cool photograph of a ugandan <(°w°)>
>>22206752Are you incapable of making any decisions by yourself?
>>22206751Still convinced this dude is gay
>>22206790>And drippers and carafes and filtersThese are my choice though. I want an origami and a kalita and I want the meme vortex carafe.>Stagg EkgFinal final choice no take backs?>Acaia pearlDamn but this is 150 though. I think it has to be a bookoo or a timemore.>>22206794I very clearly am.
>>22206442could be>>22206487you think
>>22206793what kind of scale and kettle do you think he has?
>>22206809>These are my choice thoughSure they are.
>>22206822gf-havers hate this one simple question
>>22206780>cheapo capefei 58mm bottomless portafilterhow does the handle feel? I'm looking at some of these cheap wooden handle portafilters and I'm just worried it'll feel loose or something
>>22206809you should ask the ol' ball n' chain what she prefers
>>22206829I got the one with the classic black plastic handle, feels solid. Not super heavy but it's not like I'm gonna be flinging it around. I have a KitchenAid semi auto machine and the original portafilter is definitely heavier but for the price this one will work for a long while.I've never used a wood handle one but I'd be worried about it splitting or just getting kinda gross over time.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09W5Q8TF9
>>22206837>never used a wood handle one but I'd be worried about it splitting or just getting kinda gross over time.yeah you're probably right i went with the plastic.good ol plastic..never let you down
you guys don't wash and oil your wood?
i do a dry rub
>>22206848I oil my wood every night. Sometimes more than once.
>>22206823You bought red. I'm getting blue or purple or black. Is that a chemex carafe? I have one already. Maybe I can just use that. Can you use the origami with the chemex without the lil origami stand? It will save me some money.>>22206830Not sure what that means.
>>22206894Origami x Hario.
>>22206918Oh yeah it has a handle.
first roast complete, in the air popper.kenya nyeri ichamama peaberrytaken off 1 minute after first crack total roast time 4:45. i didnt let it get to second crack but it's darker than i was targeting anyway. >inb4 grim
>>22207080try removing some of that chaff before storing it
>>22207140UH OH.i started winnowing with a fan after this but I'll go back and see if there's any more to remove on that one
>>22207159when its just the line in the middle its "ok" but when its fully wrapped around the beans its imo too much and will be annoying later on
>>22207080Looks fine. Some manual agitation will help even it out a bit. Shake the popper up and down every one in a while or get a long bar spoon. I used a kruve brew stick for a while.
>kruve brew stickthey dont call it multipurpose for nothin
>>22207181yeah sometimes the beans in the middle dont seem to get into the mix enough if I'm using more than the recommended weight of beans so i am now using a metal knife.>>22207170luckily the popper does a pretty good job ejecting most of it automatically on the longer roasts, but yeah the lighter ones have had to have some leftover chaff removed.
>>22207211whats the cum rag for anon?
for just in case
i'm guessing anon massaged the beans in that towel
it's good to keep one on hand in the event that you get a gf while roasting coffee
anon, it goes IN the gf
if i could afford that i wouldnt be roasting my own coffe
why is it called robusta? what's robust about it?
>>22207211>so i am now using a metal knife.So the popper is now just an awkward skillet that prevents you from seeing the beans well?
>>22207408it's hardier than arabica it's like the neanderthal to arabica's homo-sapien
skillet stocks skyrocketing popper inventory clogging up thrift stores
>>22207414no not really. the popper roasts with hot air and the beans swirl. i use the knife to start the swirling process but the beans get lighter as they roast so after about 1.5 to 2 minutes they are fully swirling on their own.there is also next to no risk of scorching or stalling in the popper since the air temp is constant and the beans are constantly in motion.
>>22207421>popper inventory clogging up thrift storesthis is great news for anons who want to start roasting
>>22207419>homoheh
mmmmcheeky deep 27 after a nap?yes i think so.
>>22207475>thinks I don't know how an air popper worksIf the air produced enough movement you would have ended up with an even roast but an air popper is not designed for even heat, it expects things to pop out into the bowl so those kernels in the center get closer to the heat. Put your coffee in a skillet, turn heat on, steady slowish stir with a balloon whisk, when things get going start tossing, if heat drops too much go back to stirring. When done into a big bowl, toss to cool and separate the chaff. Not that an uneven roast is bad, it can be quite good, it is just leaving things to luck. Just tell people it is a blend of light and medium roasts. You got me shipping for green beans, been years since I have roasted.
this dude is very against air poppers
>>22207541>it expects things to pop out into the bowl so those kernels in the center get closer to the heatyou're thinking of a central vent air popper. this is a side vent model.the roast is mostly uneven because it was my very first roast of all time. i dont think using the first roast of a noob to denounce all air poppers outright is very fair. >>thinks I don't know how an air popper workswell, the post i was replying to was literally asking how an air popper worked. sorry i didnt realize you were being facetious.
>>22207586>side vent modelgrim
>>22207605you can also use a center vent model if you attach this neat chimney
>>22207613>youim not that guy
>>22207614? i was talking to the guy replied to
>>22207617>>22207605this is not >>22207586this >>22207541or this guy>>22207605this is mesame as this>>22207518
this is why we dont >>quote
>>22207576They work pretty good for popping popcorn. >>22207586I did not literally or figuratively ask how a popper works. What coffee should I add onto my order of green coffee from sweet marias?
it is weird that you are so vehemently against something you have never used
>>22207691It's weird that you're passive-aggressively not replying to lil bro like you're some 12 year old sassy girl.
>>22207622>constant grim poster contributes nothing to /ctg/yeah we already knew
>>22207691I'm not against them. Most everyone agrees they are not good and when someone buys a real roaster they go on and on about how great it is and how much better it is than their old popcorn popper. There is this idea that they are good to start with as a cheap entry, but most everyone already has the cheap entry in their kitchen and it will teach you more about coffee roasting and do a better job. It just seems silly to go through all that extra work. Just because I prefer a skillet does not mean I have not used other methods, I've tried the popper and to get an even roast you either roast very little coffee at a time or stir the beans or shake the popper as that one anon said. Poppers work under the assumption that the kernels move up out of the heat once they hit the proper temp and pop which moves the beans from the center towards the heat. Personally I would go with the oven if you want to avoid the steeper learning curve of a skillet, oven works pretty good but not very hands on, just listen for the crack and time. >>22207699Stop reading for the (You)s.
>>22207720>beans*kernels.
idk mangot anything that tastes like tree nut?
Every Friday I like to share it up a little
>>22207838wtf is light ice. how do they make it lighter than normal ice.
>>22207839If i dont mention it, they literally fill the entire cup with ice. Smooth brain wagies dont know any better
>>22207838where's mine, babe? two pumps of thai peanut sauce
midnight moka time :)
>>22207720>everyone agrees they are not goodMust be why they sell $2000 popcorn poppers like the Kaffelogic Nano 7, Ikawa pro, and Nucleus Link.
you wouldn't pop corn in that
>>22202666>>22207838
>>22207699it was an inside joke. you wouldnt get it.>>22207720>I'm not against them.you have done nothing but go on diatribes against poppers since they were mentioned. >Most everyone agrees they are not good i just dont think that's true considering theyre recommended so often. >when someone buys a real roaster they go on and on about how great it is and how much better it is than their old popcorn popper.a $400 roaster is better than a $5 popcorn popper? you dont say>There is this idea that they are good to start with as a cheap entrythat idea is true>but most everyone already has the cheap entry in their kitchen and it will teach you more about coffee roasting and do a better job.subjective opinion. also i have already said I'm going to use my pan too. I'm not attacking the validity of pans like you are with poppers. >It just seems silly to go through all that extra work.what extra work lol. it takes like 5 minutes.hopefully now i have answered all your questions about how poppers work
>>22207932I'd like to get my hands on one of these to strip it for parts to mod my popcorn popper
your coffee allotment?
>>22208207100% of global output
wow thatsa lotta coffa
>>222082304u
>>22208262hehehe
>>22208150Implying I haven't already. Its just a 60w dc fan and a 1400w heater coil. Real easy to source.
>>22208298based and cool
Gentle single pour over mud fine grinds in a D27. Sweet, comfy, satisfying.
>>22208319indeed
I'm using my d27 filters as napkins
coffee to pair with bbq chicken?
>>22208347Sumatra Mandheling
>>22208095Advocating for skillets is not a diatribe against poppers, don't think I even mentioned poppers until you started making assumptions about my experience and knowledge and only talked about them as a way to establish that. I never attacked "the validity" of poppers, just their being pushed the to point that people go out of their way to get one or try to use it to save money. They offer no real control over the process. If you mentioned that you were going to use a pan it must have been in the previous thread, I think it has been established I was not in that one, but maybe I missed it, either way I am just offering information for anyone reading, public forum and all. I just watched the video on sweetmarias about roasting in a skillet, it kind of seems designed to make it look bad but it probably was exactly what it is presented as, off the cuff, but he does not really try and goes about things in less than ideal way, which he admits. But it reminded me I forgot to mention the preheat in my run down, I preheat in the oven. Whisk is the best to stir with that I found, I use a cheap whisk that has a fair amount of space between the wires for the beans to go through. Spoon works good in a wok. Only question I had is for a coffee to add to my order of green beans.
>>22208380Thanks, Anon. I'll give skillet roasting a try next time I have some greens.
>>22208351i think you're on to something
Hi everyone, I'm currently ban evading :) LOL! Anyways, just wanted to let you know that I am drinking coffee right now. OK, bye!
what kind of coffee do ban evaders drink?
>>22208380>a coffee to add to my order of green beans.i am thinkin bout some yemen mokha haimi
>>22208497not single-origin, obviously
why would that be obvious?
>>22208501I had their other Kenyan in my cart but might as well switch, why not.
why switch when you can have both
first stovetop roast. wet hulled sumatra aceh tengah. 15 minutes and i dont think i got to second crack. i pulled it because i was afraid of burning or stalling. there was some scorching at the beginning and i thought I'd just pick those out but now i cant really tell which are scorched. this is sumatran so i was aiming darker than this but i got skittish.
>inb4 grim
>>22208605>stovetop roastin a skillet or one of these things?
>>22208611what is this contraptioni used a whirlypop as seen >>22204053
>>22208619It's a mesh roaster. For use over direct flames or hot coals. In practice, it's a bit of a hybrid between a skillet and a popper.
>amazon /B0G4B8FJ2Z/should i buy ?
>>22208623unfortunately i dont have a gas stove but i am getting one in a couple months. roasting over coals sounds fun
>>22208629If you get it right, it gives a great fire-roasted flavour to otherwise mediocre beans. Everyone should try fire-roasted coffee at least once, much better than coferments.
>>22208628i have no idea how to find this from that code but is there a reason you have to buy from amazon?
>>22208634>much better than coferments.so do you use flavored coals, or..?
taste tested >>22207080 after recommended 24hrs minimum rest.notes of nothing.
>longbean
Friday night Honduran 72hr anaerobic tonic. Way more crema than I expected for a HE basket and 909s.
>>22208635>Yemeni Haraz Green Coffee Beans, Sun-Dried, High Altitude 1800-2400mbasically is that worth 35 CAD for 1.5;bs of green?anywhere else you'd recommend for buying small quantities of green coffee in canada? we are in a tariff war with the usa so shipping duties from there are prohibitive
>>22208653>after recommended 24hrs minimum restthat's the minimum for dark as dark ass french roasts for anything a sane person would drink, it's one (1) week minimum
>>22208693What varietal?
>>22208723idk about canadian stores, but for reference greens within USA start at like $8 or $9/lb, maybe less (if theyre defective ugandan beans), so 35 seems high even with conversion.
>>22208637Different woods impart different flavours, yes. Ever had barbeque, Anon?
>>22208729>greens within USA start at like $8 or $9/lbeven smaller quantities? less than 5lbs? color me jelly
>>22208726can i speed that up if i put it outside in 100 degrees for a couple days>>22208727some sumatran cultivar idk for sure. it just says "modern varietals" on the site.
>>22208735yeah i bought 4 different varieties in 1lb bags and they were all under $10 each. of course, there are more expensive ones too. like kona is still $35/lb
second stovetop attempt with the same bean, but with a heavier bottomed, opem top pan, and whisk.a lot of prominent scorching and very uneven. probably not even worth drinking this one. i likely used too big a pan and my thermometer is probably inadequate for reading the preheat temp. i always intended the sumatran to be my stovetop test bean so i guess it's okay that i fucked it up but it is disappointing.still struggling to get to second crack and beyond.
>>22208736>speed that upyou can speed it up by grinding it the day before you intend to brewit's very common to overshoot and end up with stale coffee with this method thoughever
>>22208739>bought 4 different varieties in 1lb bags and they were all under $10 eachfound a couple of sites where this might be possible it all comes down to shipping in the end
>might be possible*for me
>>22208761nice, i hope you can get some good stuff.sometimes they allow you to pick it up in person, so if there's one within driving distance you can see about that too.
>>22208774thanksdo you think my local roaster would be offended if i ask them to sell me greens? as if to say "your roasts aren't good enough, my amateur ass could roast better coffee than you"
>>22208777i dont think they would be offended but they might think that selling you greens is less profit than selling roasted coffee. it might be worth emailing a few places.
>>22208744What was your process for controlling the heat? Did you just dump in at preheat temp and go at it or change the heat during the process? How long was the preheat? What sort of stove? Pan was round sided so there were no corners the whisk could not get into?If the pan was too big for the quantity you pretty much have to just toss constantly. As i said earlier, works best with a few layers of beans, if it pretty much a single layer the whisk just pushes them around no better than a spoon.>>22208777That is what I did for years and I got all my green coffee from a few small roasters. They were happy to help someone interested in roasting, generally would ask me to bring in some of my coffee and they would give me pointers. Made a few friends as well. Price was generally anywhere from a couple dollars cheaper than roasted to the same price as roasted. I generally would also buy some roasted coffee at the same time, not so much out of worry of offending but because it was helpful to have some of the same beans roasted by a pro to be a control.
>>22208780good ideai will look into it thanks again, anon
>Price was generally anywhere from a couple dollars cheaper than roasted to the same price as roasted.grim
weekend plans?
>>22208807gonna try squatting more than 405 without back pain drinkin coffee (pourover guatemalan) rn so i can post itt
>>22208795round pans. electric stove. preheated until 450 in the whirlypop and 350 in the heavy bottomed pan. the heavy bottom pan scorched more than the whirlypop anyway. preheated at medium high (7), then turned down one level (6) then after first crack down to 3 or 4. whirlypop used 8oz of beans so it was more layered.anyway it took around 3x the time as the popper, considerably more manual effort, and i still didnt get as dark as i wanted (a main advantage of stove over popper), and the monetary loss from ruining the bean is more than the cost of the popper. so I'm still not really sold on the stove.
>>22208814>drinkin coffee (pourover guatemalan) rn so i can post ittthank you for observing protocol
>>22208629you can also use a cheap propane burner with those small camping cylinders
>>22208807coffee
>>22208900how did you get this footage from 1066
how come this guy gets to have unrested coffee?
i have some smaller batches resting in these little jars with the lid just a little loose to allow CO2 to escape. is this okay or will they go stale before theyre fully rested? should i fully tighten the lid at some point?
>>22208916same thing as niggas who think cutting into a steaming loaf of bread fresh out of the oven is the moveit's not
>>22208918The oldfag way to do it is cut out the valves from bags and just use the ring to seal down your salvaged bags. Nowadays I'd probably just buy some silicone airlocks for fermenting and let them burp.
>>22208918you should fully tighten the lid so your beans get fizzy from the carbonization
>>22208924i actually bought a pack of bags, the only thing is these batches are like 4 or 5 oz so i was worried theyd be too small for these bags meant for 8oz. would it still be preferable to use the bag over the jar even for the small batches? I'm doing bigger batches from now on tho.>>22208925is that how you make coffee soda?
i think they're actually more like 10 or 12 oz bags
you should sell those beans out the back of your car
>>22208948the good thing about a car is nobody knows where to find you if they're dissatisfied
>>22208816Medium high is on the high side, which is probably why you ended up dropping down to so much. Heavy pan is slow to react to changes and electric stove increases that, even moreso if it is a cooktop. With the thicker metal the outside is considerably hotter than the inside with a quick heatup at medium high, the slight turn down probably did not do much and the pan kept getting hotter for those next few minutes and then stayed hot. Turning down to 3 is not going to slow things down much with the combination of heavy pan and electric, need to remove from heat and toss to slow down. But that is just a guess since you did not give any times, you certainly got up temp quickly and then overshot it with that medium high, but that is all I can say. Slow preheat, I did it in the oven at 375 while getting the bread ready to bake, so it would sit in the oven for a good 20 minutes while the oven temp was stabilizing for the baking. Pan comes out and put on a medium heat burner, coffee goes in pan, bread goes into oven and house smells amazing. >>22208923Some bread is best that way, kills the shelf life but that is not always an issue and some of those breads that are best fresh from the oven are not so great once cooled.
>>22209120>Turning down to 3 is not going to slow things down much with the combination of heavy pan and electric, need to remove from heat and toss to slow down.i didnt turn to 3 to slow it down, i turned to 3 after first crack, which was several minutes after the scorch happened.when i noticed scorching i removed the pan from the heat and tossed it until it calmed down. but at that point the batch is basically ruined anyway.>you certainly got up temp quickly and then overshot it with that medium highthe preheat took at least 15 minutes
>>22209120name one loaf that's best sliced and served fresh out the oven
>>2220912515 minutes on medium-high to get a pan up 350? Well there is your problem, your stove sucks. >>22209130Most every bread cooked hot and fast, you either let that steam out quickly or it all goes into the crust and ruins it.
last i checked, loaves weren't cooked hot and fast
>>22209140stick to wonder bread.
today its>ethiopian landrace, colombia
wow, they raced all the way to the new world!
time for a mega-pint id say
drank too much coffee last night and barely slept 2 hourscheeky little instant americano this morning hehe
Why is this retard still going on about skillet roasting?
>>22209139>15 minutes on medium-high to get a pan up 350?like i said, i think my thermometer is inappropriate it couldve been at 350 after a few minutes but i couldnt get a good read>your stove sucks.I'm glad we finally agreed on the superiority of the popcorn popper
a whirlypop is closer to a skillet than an air popper
tired of pour overs ever day. i just want a gay iced coffee.
>>22209544w-what makes it gay?
>>22209549when you dont say no homo when brewing
>>22209549all the stuff it lets me do to it
>>22209582I've never said that while making coffee.
>>22209594
>>22209604>>>/tea/
>>22208918I store my beans exclusively in wide mouth mason jars and vacuum seal them with a manual brake bleeder pump and one of these foodsaver lid attachments. If you do this and store them if the freezer they last indefinitely. Exposing beans to oxygen will always make them go stale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD1SxvziH3s
>>22209689do you freeze even while resting? i thought you were supposed to freeze after like 10 days or something
>>22209691Looks exactly how one would expect.
big stove gettin scared
tested my dark roast brazilian after 43 hours. was worried it was already stale because it smells exactly like folgers when ground. but i am getting thai peanut sauce. or maybe tahini
i would recommend this bean to roasting noobs because it was cheap but also had a very uniform bean size and shape and not many defects. i think i only noticed one. it swirls and roasts very uniformly and you can take it dark with no worries which is good if you accidentally over-roast.
>>22209722there's at least 2 defects just in this image anon
>>22209723those are decoys
>>22209723just sayin compared to the sumatra >>22208693 it was much more uniform with far fewer defects per square bean
Got a can of illy. Wish I didn't.
we've all been there
do you brew the illy with the lilydrip?
>make coffee>empty grounds>there is rice in the groundsAm I going to die?
sorryi was grinding rice for porridge
sometimes it's good to add a little salt to your coffee
mmm yes
>>22209470Most stoves will do 450 on medium high, medium or a tad above is what you want.
New:>>22209948>>22209948>>22209948
why bake so early? we have loose ends to tie up.
whywe had a good thing going
this thread should've been the last ctg
newop is newfag, nothing new.
>nothing newevidently, he is
>>22208918buy some airscapes. or a vacuum sealer and put them in the freezer
