>>22254784
op don’t do this, it creates mustard gas

>>22254784
No it doesn't. It only wastes olive oil.

>>22254826
not really, it kinda works. mpw and ramsay said so in a vid

>>22254826
It does work, where did you get the idea it doesn't?

>>22254859
Actually doing it. You know. That thing you didn't before talking about something.

>>22254784
This is a pointless, retarded waste of oil. But be retarded if you want.

It keeps the sauce from sticking to the pasta later. If it's worth it to you to save some stirring time, go ahead. It does nothing really to help boiling.

>>22254933
>Actually doing it.
Then how about you actually do it before repeating "actually it doesn't work like I saw on a FB post..."?

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Olive oil is so expensive here. It would be a waste to add it to pasta water. I just stir the pasta a few times while boiling, and it never sticks.
Good olive oil is best used for dressing the pasta after it's cooked, along with the sauce. Sometimes I heat a little olive oil with garlic and red pepper flakes and then drizzle this flavoured olive oil on top of my pasta and sauce (and cheese)
It's so fucking good.
Don't waste good olive oil! It should be the star of your meal.

>>22254859
If you need to use oil to keep your pasta from sticking together, you're a retard. If you're not retarded, maybe try not using the oil and see that it's completely unnecessary and thus a waste. In fact it makes your pasta worse because the sauce won't adhere to it as well.

No need. I won’t go so far as to say ‘does nothing’, but you get far better results by just waiting ten seconds after putting things in and giving it a quick stir. Wala, no sticking.

>>22254990
>If you need to use oil to keep your pasta from sticking together, you're a retard.
So it changed from "it doesn't work" to "actually, I don't know if it work, but you're retarded if you do it".

>>22254995
Missed the rest of my post where I said it actually makes your pasta worse, huh? Retard?

>>22254995
>I shit my pants every time I drive somewhere because it keeps me from getting into a crash
>What do you mean it's not necessary? I haven't crashed, so it works!

>>22254997
>It doesn't work
>It does work, but it make the pasta worse
Yeah, this is not a backpedal, also it should change a thing unless you're eating pasta American style, with the sauce and pasta separated.

>>22255002
>it should change
it shouldn't change

>>22255000
Nice get, that anon shits his pants

>>22255002
Oil and water don't mix. Sauce is mostly water. If your pasta is oily, sauce will be repelled from it. Pretty basic stuff but I understand you are retarded.

>>22255010
So are you telling me that if we add 1 in 200 olive oil to the water that cooks the paste, the pasta will become oily?

You shouldn't jump to be act as specialist when you don't know shit. That bit of oil in the water isn't meat to make the pasta oily so it doesn't stick, it's meant to bind with the tiny amounts of starch that pasta release while cooking and prevent if from binding pasta pieces together.

>>22255010
>Oil and water don't mix.
Adding starch from the pasta water helps bind the fats and other ingredients into an emulsion. This emulsification helps fats like butter and olive oil to combine with the watery sauce and adhere to the pasta.
But this is probably too advanced for a /ck/ thread.

>>22255027
Is cooking more science than art?

>>22255027
Who needs to know about how starch and oil work while cooking pasta, when you can spam crap like this >>22255000 and hope 10 other americans jump to agree with you?

>>22255019
If the pasta doesn't become oily, how does the oil even help it from sticking? We're back to the original point which is that it does NOTHING and it a waste of oil. Retard.

>>22255041
>If the pasta doesn't become oily, how does the oil even help it from sticking?
How about little know-it-all actually read the rest of the post before making stupid questions?

But I can copy it here for you as a green text if your attention spam is too short:
>hat bit of oil in the water isn't meat to make the pasta oily so it doesn't stick, it's meant to bind with the tiny amounts of starch that pasta release while cooking and prevent if from binding pasta pieces together.

>>22255041
Acting with confidence and being agressive doesn't make up for being wrong, at least not outside America.

>>22255044
Even if that were true which it isn't, you want the water to be as starchy as possible. So you would still be making your pasta worse by doing this. But the real question is still, WHY are you doing this when no one who knows how to cook has ever had a problem with their pasta sticking together? I can cook a pound of spaghetti in a skillet in a tiny amount of water and it never sticks together. Why is this even a problem for you unless you are actually retarded?

>>22255050
>you want the water to be as starchy as possible
I know you're making up stuff as you go along, but this is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while.

But let's assume this is real and no something you invented to cope with being wrong online. Then adding a spoon of corn starch to the paste water would make the paste better, no?

>>22255050
>But the real question is still, WHY are you doing this when no one who knows how to cook has ever had a problem with their pasta sticking together?
Mind if I ask where are you from? I'm assuming you're from a country where pasta manufacturers add a small oily cover to the pasta, and really don't get how pasta without this works.

>>22254859
>>22254856
No it fucking doesn't. Putting a very light coating of oil on already cooked and drained pasta works. Oil in pasta water does absolutely nothing.

>>22255056
You don't have to take my word for it. Here's some light reading for you.

https://www.seriouseats.com/the-best-way-to-boil-pasta-11986269
https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-cook-pasta-salt-water-boiling-tips-the-food-lab

>Then adding a spoon of corn starch to the paste water would make the paste better, no?
Sure, that would work, especially for you since you like to waste ingredients on your pasta for no fucking reason.

>>22255068
Now I get it, you live in the US. I guess if we only talk about pasta that already come with a non-stick coating, then adding oil to the water doesn't change a thing.

But how about we talk about real pasta?

>>22255060
>pasta manufacturers add a small oily cover to the pasta
I don't think you can prove such a country exists. I only use bronze cut pasta from Italy. It doesn't stick because I am not a retard who doesn't know how to cook.

>>22255072
Sorry pal, it doesn't matter what country you're in. Oil in pasta water does nothing. You're a retard who can't cook.

>>22255073
>I don't think you can prove such a country exists.
There are a few, the one I can remember easily is the US. A friend of mine used to work with pasta and they added this coating when on their export line to the US.

>>22255075
>Sorry pal
It's ok, little passive agressive bits are no good, but it's all you have, of course I'll have to accept it.

>>22255077
Nice proof you've got there. Doesn't matter anyway because I only use bronze cut Italian pasta.
>>22255079
And what do you have besides old wives' tales from your Nonna about oil being necessary in the water? Have you even tried to cook pasta without wasting oil? I used to believe it myself since that's how I was taught by my family. But then I started learning more about cooking and found it it is not necessary. Why are you wasting an expensive ingredient on a meal that's supposed to be cheap?

>>22255083
>And what do you have besides old wives' tales from your Nonna about oil being necessary in the water?
I and others already explained to you how oil interacts with starch on the water, and how this makes a difference in countries where paste is not sold already coated with some oily substances.

>Have you even tried to cook pasta without wasting oil?
I've been working in industrial food production for the paste decade or so, but it seems some american on the internet feels the need to invent an entire little story of how actually know what I know.

>Why are you wasting an expensive ingredient on a meal that's supposed to be cheap?
I know life is hard where you live, and each ml of oil counts, but even the poorest of poor here can easily afford 10 ml of olive oil.

>>22255089
So you haven't tried to cook pasta without wasting oil then? Got it.
>but even the poorest of poor here can easily afford 10 ml of olive oil.
Ah yes, being needlessly wasteful is a hallmark of the wealthy.

>>22255093
>So you haven't tried to cook pasta without wasting oil then?
I few hundred test batches, with a dozen or so variations on how they are cooked. But I guess making up stuff and trying a bit too hard to stick it on others is the American way.

Also, you should eat pasta cooked with olive oil instead of non-stick coating if you can.

>>22255095
>I few hundred test batches, with a dozen or so variations on how they are cooked.
And you found that oil in the water is absolutely essential to keep it from sticking? I think there may be another variable here that you aren't accounting for and that's that you don't actually know how to cook.
>making up stuff
I'm not making anything up. In fact I already linked two articles from a highly reputable cooking publication that back me up. You haven't cited shit except your own dubious claims.
>non-stick coating
You still haven't proven that such a thing even exists, and I already told you I only use high quality Italian pasta.

>>22255100
>And you found that oil in the water is absolutely essential to keep it from sticking?
If pasta has not been coated to not stick, it does helps a lot. Changing the water at 2/3 of the cooking process and other cumbersome, unpractical methods also work.

>I think there may be another variable here that you aren't accounting for and that's that you don't actually know how to cook.
It's how pasta releases starch and starch binds pasta pieces together. Oil is by far the most practical method of avoiding this.

>I'm not making anything up. In fact I already linked two articles from a highly reputable cooking publication that back me up.
You can link 100 pop-science articles on how American pasta doesn't stick, they'll not say a thing about how uncoated pasta works.

>and I already told you I only use high quality Italian pasta.
Italian pasta as in imported from Italy and produced for the Italian market, or as in Italian pasta produced in the US?

>>22255100
>>22255109
Btw, talking about all the ways pasta can be made to not stick, we have:
>Adding a bit of oil while cooking
>Adding an oily coat to the pasta beforehand
>Adding a very thin non-stick coat, like polydimethylsiloxane, this also make pasta last far longer on shelfs.
>Using sligtly acid water while cooking
>Constantly stiring pasta while it cooks
>Change water at around 2/3 of cooking
>Stop cooking at around 1/3, then wash and pack pasta
>Adding an silicon based non-stick agent on the water

>>22255109
>If pasta has not been coated to not stick
You still can't prove that ANYONE ANYWHERE even does that.
>It's how pasta releases starch and starch binds pasta pieces together.
Then why does mine not stick together despite the fact that I don't use oil? HARD MODE: don't keep making up your bullshit about lubricated pasta when I've already told you I only use high quality Italian pasta.
>>22255109
>You can link 100 pop-science articles on how American pasta doesn't stick
You're attacking the source not the argument. Nevertheless Serious Eats is extremely reputable. But you would know that if you knew how to cook which you don't.
>they'll not say a thing about how uncoated pasta works
He just cannot stop making this unfounded claim.
>Italian pasta as in imported from Italy and produced for the Italian market, or as in Italian pasta produced in the US?
Irrelevant unless we consider the extremely dubious claim that you keep making with zero evidence.

>>22255119
You forgot the one where you just stir it a few times without any unnecessary waste of ingredients. And you threw your unfounded claim in again for good measure. I'm getting fucking trolled aren't? I Jesus Christ.

>>22255125
>You still can't prove that ANYONE ANYWHERE even does that.
No one can "prove" anything to a guy who already ignored everything that was presented and went balistic, mate.

>>22255128
>You forgot the one where you just stir it a few times without any unnecessary waste of ingredients.
No, it's the second or third on the list, depending on the brand you buy.

>>22255131
Okay, I'll humor you since I have nothing better to do. I use De Cecco pasta imported from Italy. It does not have any oil coating. It does not stick despite the fact that I cook it in very little water with no oil. What now? Retard?

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what if you just boiled the pasta in olive oil instead of water?

>>22255137
Now I call you a liar, you have been dishonest in so many different ways that outright lying is a logic next step, no?

>>22255133
So which brands have this mysterious oil coating that you keep mentioning? You can't even name one. I've certainly never seen one in America.

>>22255139
Fried pasta is quite good.

>>22255140
You're such a shit cook that you think I'm lying because I said I can cook pasta without wasting oil? Is that where we're at? I think we're done here.

>>22255141
It's a bit hard to tell brand by brand, labeling and food safety standards in the US are very bad, and this sort of small addtions doesn't need to be put on label.

My friend used to work on M. Dias Branco manufacturing plant, and they produced on-brand pasta for Mueller and Barilla (US), I think Pastifício Selmi produces on-brand pasta for Ronzoni.

It's just some retard samefagging his own pointless "argument" thread to keep it on top of the catalog. Which is entirely unnecessary on a slow board like /ck/

>>22255145
>You're such a shit cook that you think I'm lying because I said I can cook pasta without wasting oil?
No, you're not lying because of this claim, you're lying because after 20 posts being dishonest what else can I think of you?

How many times people have explained how starch works with oil in water, only for you to spam "I think there may be another variable here that you aren't accounting for and that's that you don't actually know how to cook." and for 10 posts in a row?

>>22255148
>and this sort of small addtions doesn't need to be put on label
Wrong.
>My friend used to work on M. Dias Branco manufacturing plant, and they produced on-brand pasta for Mueller and Barilla (US), I think Pastifício Selmi produces on-brand pasta for Ronzoni.
Oh another claim that you conveniently can't prove. I'm noticing a pattern with you, shithead.

>>22255153
>Wrong.
How can reality stand against one dishonest anon wishful thinking?

Come on, repeat "you don't know how to cook if you don't pretend I'm right" more 10 times, you're good at it.

>>22255152
I only said that once, and you've yet to refute it. So I guess we're at an impasse until your rhetorical skills improve just a bit.

>>22255153
Beside repeating that others can't cook and refusing to accept anything that goes against how you wanted things to be, what you do?

>>22255158
Any amount of an ingredient that is present in the final product is required to be included on the ingredient list.

>>22255160
>I only said that once
You lie too much, let's count
>1. WHY are you doing this when no one who knows how to cook has ever had a problem with their pasta sticking together
>2. It doesn't stick because I am not a retard who doesn't know how to cook.
>3. Have you even tried to cook pasta without wasting oil? I used to believe it myself since that's how I was taught by my family. But then I started learning more about cooking and found it it is not necessary.
>4. and that's that you don't actually know how to cook.
>5. But you would know that if you knew how to cook which you don't.
>6. You're such a shit cook that you think
It's quite boring, so will do you something better than getting angry at facts that go against what you said and crying anyone who disagree can't cook?

>>22255161
Let's see, I presented my case and backed it up with reputable evidence while you continue to make baseless and provably false claims.

Oiling the water does nothing. Water and oil don't mix. The oil floats to the top and does not coat the pasta. The way to prevent pasta from sticking is to stir it. That's it. Just stir the fucking pasta every couple of minutes.

>>22255167
What facts have you presented?

>>22255164
>Any amount of an ingredient that is present in the final product is required to be included on the ingredient list.
You write something that sounds good inside your head, and think this is truth, kek.

Let me quote FDA regulation:
>Food manufacturers are required to list all ingredients in the food, unless ingredients are subject to an exemption from this requirement such as incidental additives.
>some ingredients can be listed collectively as "flavors," "spices," "artificial flavoring," or in the case of color additives exempt from certification

>>22255168
>I presented my case and backed it up with reputable evidence
You posted some pop-sci site from the US, talking about some ad-hoc tests on US pasta... if this is reputable evidence, then the Huffinton post is Scriptura.

Wait, one you really thinks oiling the pasta water prevents the pasta from sticking together? What a moron.

>>22255171
Beside FDA regulations showing your claims on labeling are false and explaining how starch and oil interact a half a dozen times, to be ignored by you on all of them?

>>22255173
>incidental additives
>"Minor ingredients or trace components transferred to a food from another ingredient or piece of equipment that have no technical or functional effect in the final food "
And you think a significant coating of oil meets this definition? Keeping the pasta from sticking sounds like a technical or functional effect in the final food. Am I gonna have to come over to your house and cook a pasta of your choosing without using any oil? It's really easy, guy. You don't have to live like this.

>>22255176
Not only that, he thinks it's impossible to cook pasta without it sticking unless some nefarious American corporations are needlessly coating their pasta with oil. But trust him, his friend worked for one such nefarious corporation.

>>22255180
>And you think a significant coating of oil meets this definition?
I'm not you to think random things inside my head and spam it as if they were truth, am I.

I talk about what I know, and yes, polydimethylsiloxane and lecithin blends can be declared either as generic preservatives. The former is usually a better options. It's easier to play around US regulations than those of coutries like Angola.

>>22255182
Based, you are wrong, but look at how based you look when you mock, now you must be right.

>>22255185
>I'm not you to think random things inside my head and spam it as if they were truth, am I.
And yet you continue to insist that pasta will stick unless some shadowy hand of late stage capitalism adds mystery ingredients to prevent it. So again I offer to come to your third world hovel and show you how to cook pasta. I have some vacation time saved up.

>>22255186
We'll let the peanut gallery read our reply chain and decide for themselves then.

>>22255187
>And yet you continue to insist that pasta will stick unless some shadowy hand of late stage capitalism adds mystery ingredients to prevent it
I know you want to be right at any cost, but do you really need to make up stuff and pretend I said it? Do you think being dishonest will help you win le internet argument?

>So again I offer to come to your third world hovel and show you how to cook pasta. I have some vacation time saved up.
And if being dishonest was not enough, he also need to attack non-stop. We really were raised in different cultures, I cannot grasp this idea of attacking to making up for being wrong.

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>>22255190
>if I keep saying he's wrong, it will become true!

>>22255189
>ignore what was said
>wrong
>you cant cook
>ive already proven it
>pretend you said this
thats all I can see, all noise, no substance

>>22255194
Well, it started from him insisting that oil is necessary to keep pasta from sticking. If you think that's true, then you really can't cook. It's as shrimple as that.

>>22254784
>it stops the pasta from sticking
Is this a problem people really have? Just mix the damn pasta and it won't stick. When the water is boiling, it takes over the mixing job itself.

>>22255193
Even another projection, come on, it stopped being funny on the 3rd, there's no need to make a 13th. It's not like you'll become right on a magic number.

>>22255196
>Well, it started from him insisting that oil is necessary to keep pasta from sticking.
he said something you dont like, then a lot of hot air and attacks, no substance
>If you think that's true, then you really can't cook.
like this, you repeat this and think youre a genius

>>22255200
>you have to be a genius to cook pasta
No, you really don't.

>>22255204
thats not what i say, you think youre a genius for doing this

>>22255197
Your pasta was coated with oil by the EVIL AMERICAN CORPORATION, mutt. Can't you see that? Otherwise it would stick unless you put a very small amount of oil on the surface of the water.

>>22255204
Again writting completely made up green text on what other said, you should stop doing this ASAP, no one likes a dishonest fella who argues in bad faith.

>>22255206
I'm done with you, thirdie. Now I will reply to other anons with strawman versions of your already flimsy argument.

>>22255209
So you'll run away and keep doing all you have already done? If lying on the internet really makes you that happy, good for you =)

I wonder how it would work out to use olive oil to fry fries

I'd try it but I don't wanna waste food after it creates some straight up garbage

>>22255208
The "other anon" was obviously you. I can spot your ESL from a mile (1.60934km) away.

>>22255209
youre dishonest, only know to miswrite what others said and call name

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>>22255213
>The "other anon" was obviously you. I can spot your ESL from a mile (1.60934km) away.
Oh, no! More bullshit and attacks, this time it'll work.

>>22255182
I think you booty blasted him so hard he's pretending to be retarded now to save face. It's a very common tactic low IQ individuals use.

>>22255212
I've tried with lard and the taste is amazing.

>>22255218
You shouldn't reply to yourself pretending to be someone else, it's not honest.

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>>22255214
>>22255217
>if I alternate between using capital letters and punctuation and using none, no one will suspect me!
Pathetic.

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>>22255220
Will you repeat this crap for 10 posts too?

>>22255212
>I wonder how it would work out to use olive oil to fry fries
I've tried it, it sucks.
Olive oil is not a neutral oil.
A little drizzled on potatoes is fine but for frying potatoes, it's not a good taste

>>22255223
Your screenshots prove nothing as if it's impossible to have more than one IP to samefag with, lmao. There's only one ESL in this thread and it's you. The fact that you were so quick to screenshot proof that you're "not" samefag is extremely telling. Well, not more telling than your obvious ESL, but still.

That's definitely a thing with this ESL guy. He considers things to be impossible that normal people simply take for granted. Projecting his own malformed brown brain onto the rest of us.

>>22255228
>Your screenshots prove nothing as if it's impossible to have more than one IP to samefag with, lmao.
>The fact that you were so quick to screenshot proof that you're "not" samefag is extremely telling.
Yes, someone showing you're full or shit, but doing it fast is actually proff you're right.

I don't know what is worse, thinking write something this stupid makes you look good, or samefagging and trying this hard to project on others.

>>22255231
you sure know to argue

>>22255219
I'm not, but it's obvious what you're doing. The anon you're arguing with pushed your shit in and you won't allow yourself to be proven wrong on the internet so now you're pretending to be retarded. Oiling the pasta water does nothing to prevent pasta from sticking together.

>>22255238
>I'm not, but it's obvious what you're doing.
Yeah...

>The anon you're arguing with
Yeah... that anon... sure...

>Oiling the pasta water does nothing to prevent pasta from sticking together.
If you want to be right, should simply ask me to agree, instead of samefagging, lying and spamming attacks. It'd be easier.

>>22255232
So there's another ESL in here vehemently arguing that it's necessary to add oil to pasta water to keep the pasta from sticking? And emotionally invested enough to reply to me instantly? Is that what you're telling me?

>>22255238
>The anon you're arguing with

>>22255245
>So there's another ESL in here vehemently arguing that it's necessary to add oil to pasta water to keep the pasta from sticking?
There's one or two anons telling you about pasta, and another calling dishonest but not talking about pasta.

There's also a few posts by the American anon sucking himself hard, but they stopped after people calling him for samefagging.

>>22255232
what exactly do you believe you proved with your autistic spergout in this thread?

>>22255252
Beside how dishonest and desperate to win this one guy is? Not much.

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>>22255251
Uh oh...

>>22255251
Mate your brand of ESL is really obvious.

>>22255255
did that sentence make sense in your deranged head?

>>22255255
Desperate to win? I can make pasta without wasting oil for no reason. I've already won.

>>22255256
You're really good at doing the same the other guy did, doing it worse, and attacking him for doing it.

>>22255262
There's no greater victory than making this much of a show 4chan because you want your headcannon to be reality.

I'm amazed you haven't made another thread so you can do more of it.

>>22255263
There is no "other guy," my ESL friend. You're the only one emotionally invested in replying to me.

>>22255261
What part of the sentence is hard to understand?

>>22255270
Everyone I don't like is one brown ESL samefag.

>>22255273
Everyone instantly replying to me in this thread is, yes. And it's you. You are brown and ESL.

>>22255262
If this is what winning looks like, then I don't want to see what losing looks like.

>>22255267
>haven't made another thread so you can do more of it.
>>22255235

>>22255267
>>22255276
samefag

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>>22255279
Again?

>>22255278
>esl so assblasted he tries to falseflag by making a new thread
Holy mental illness

>>22255280
>The fact that you were so quick to screenshot proof that you're "not" samefag is extremely telling.

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>22255279
I'm done with you.

>>22255282
>The fact that you were so quick to screenshot proof that you're "not" samefag is extremely telling.
This is dumb, Ctrl + Shift + S, then Ctrl + V on 4chanX takes around 3 seconds, is this even another of your arguments?

>>22255285
Oh no you're breaking my heart Rajesh. I guess you have a long day ahead of you at the call center.

>>22255286
Oh, I thought something was complicated but it was actually extremely easy? Like when you thought it was complicated to keep pasta from sticking but it's actually extremely easy and doesn't involve wasting any oil? Like that? You brown fucking retard?

>>22255290
>Oh, I thought something was like this but it was the opposite?
Isn't this what has been happening the whole thread?

>>22255293
Yeah, I thought it was easy to keep pasta from sticking. You thought it was the opposite, requiring oil from various sources, real or imagined.

>>22255299
And back to "let's pretend you said this, so I don't look stupid or wrong"... you're so good at this.

>>22255300
But that is what you said. You said it's impossible to keep pasta from sticking without oil. You either add it to the water yourself, or some benevolent American company adds it for you.

>>22255307
>But that is what you said.
Do you have some genuine mentall issue, you wrote random crap mocking what I said a dozen times and now you come with this?

What's next, cry that you didn't same fag and didn't made 31 posts calling me names because I made you upset?

>>22255311
but you did say it. are you having a stroke or are you always this demented

>>22255312
>but you did say it.
You should read what I said, instead of jumping to write mock >replies... how about it?

>are you having a stroke or are you always this demented
And back to making to for being wrong and dishonest with lots of attacks.

>>22255311
So it's possible to make pasta without using oil? Why are the nefarious American corporations wasting their money to add it to their pasta then? Why are you wasting your own oil to keep it from sticking? We have so many questions, and you have so few answers. And so much melanin.

>>22255315
>So it's possible to make pasta without using oil?
I think you're the only dishonest anon who made this claim.

You should read what people say, this way you can argue against them, instead of whatever you made up trying to make them look stupid...

Also the "you are wasting precious resources when you add a spool of oil" was so stupid.

>>22255314
dude call a doctor already there's an entire sentence that you forgot to write in the middle of your delusions.

>>22255321
>You should read what people say, this way you can argue against them, instead of whatever you made up trying to make them look stupid...
The irony...

>>22255322
Another "no u"? Come on, I know you're desperate to feel like you're right and that you're not the shaperst tool in the shelf, but just because someone said you're mentally ill here >>22255311
it doesn't need you need to copy...

>>22255323
>no u
And again? You're quite bad at this.

>>22255321
>I think you're the only dishonest anon who made this claim.
No, I'm really not.
>Also the "you are wasting precious resources when you add a spool of oil" was so stupid.
Why was it stupid? Using something when you don't have to and using it serves no purpose, that's the literal definition of waste.

>>22255329
>Why was it stupid?
Give me a second, you said so much wrong, dishonest or otherwise stupid stuff that I need some time to find the posts around this one.

>>22255329
>Using something when you don't have to and using it serves no purpose, that's the literal definition of waste.
This would require us to take the stuff you say seriously, and despite your best effort with mocking, name calling, projections, calling everyone a samefag and outright lying, this is not something we can do.

I think this is the issue.

>>22255335
Oh okay. So if I politely told you that there's no reason to use oil in your pasta water, then you would believe me?

>>22255339
I'd ask why you think, and if you managed to answer without having a little episode, then we'd see how things went.

But here we are some odd 50 posts of some of the most disgusting behavior I've seen for quite some time.

>>22255242
Lol that was my third post ITT. You're a mentally ill stlaker child. Enjoy prison.

>>22255343
And I do believe you anon.

>>22255342
NTA but it's because oil is hydrophobic. This is grade school level scientific knowledge.

I don't have a problem with my pasta sticking because I toss it gently immediately after draining, but thanks for the tip

>>22255342
I don't think that's true. Your mind was made up since you were pretending to be some expert who has tested this a hundred times. The thought of cooking pasta without water was such anathema to you that you insisted that the evil corporations were oiling my pasta without my knowledge. Then it shifted that I must be lying. Now it's "Well, you may be right but you're being mean about it :("

The mental gymnastics of being brown.

>>22255350
I'm very happy to see your little episode is over, and I'll assume you were out of yourself when half a dozen posts were made explaining to you that the amount of oil added to the water is not enough to make the pasta oily, and instead oil bind with the free starch on the water, preventing it from forming a paste that bind pasta pieces together.

And no, repeating "This is grade school level scientific knowledge." like a passive agressive coward doesn't change a thing.

>>22255354
>reee you wrong
>reee you are the one who made up your mind and only care about winning le argument, not me
>reee you're the one who went feral when someone disagreed, not me
>reee, let me make up some crap and pretend you said it... see now you look stupid, haha
>reee, you pointed to my behavior, so you must admit I'm right and is only talking about my behavior
And he's back at spamming random crap, poiting out you are dishonest, samefagging, attacking and lying doesn't mean I admit you're wrong.

Showing this behavior after being wrong about pasta on 4chan only makes it all the more disgusting.

>>22255355
>he still thinks I'm the only one calling out his browntardation
lmao

>>22255361
Oh, sure, everyone believes you’re not samefagging. It’s just a coincidence that random people who write exactly like you pop up the moment you stop posting for a few minutes, to kiss your ass and attack whoever you’re attacking.

>>22255354
>Now it's "Well, you may be right but you're being mean about it :("
You’re a piece of shit, and he pointed it out. But when has he ever said you were right?

>>22255368
>>22255373
samefag ESL brown

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>>22255378
Yeah...

>>22255380
Yeah...there's only one ESL brown in this thread emotionally invested enough to reply to me instantly. And it's you.

>>22255384
>Yeah...there's only one ESL brown in this thread emotionally invested enough to reply to me instantly. And it's you.
>reply to me instantly
There were 10 minutes between your post and that reply. Are you drunk?

>>22255368
He didn't post a screenshot quickly, so there's no proof he's samefagging.

>>22255390
Now you're so insecure about replying too fast after being called out that you sit there and count the seconds LMAO. I've completely broken this jeet's brain.

>>22255355
>and instead oil bind with the free starch

It's over.
Pack it up guys, he's exposed himself as an ESL. But seriously he's retarded to drag this out so long with a handful of anons calling him out. He thinks we're all the same person. Just watch. He's going to accuse me of being one of the other posters who called him an idiot for thinking oil in water keeps pasta from sticking together.

>>22255413
>You reply fast, so you must be samefagging.
>Actually, I lied. You replied slow, so you must be samefagging.
I feel big brain energy.

>>22255416
>samefag
>Just watch, someone will call me out for doing this, which will prove I’m not doing it. I’m such a genius.
What do you want? To claim the people who noticed are wrong?

>>22255421
>people
But it's just you, jeet.

>>22255426
Are you sure you want to accuse others of samefagging three minutes after doing it yourself?

>>22255429
It's just you, jeet.

What a mess of a thread.

>>22255421
The fuck are you talking about? You're not even arguing coherently anymore.

>>22255435
Thankfully the universe gave him about a day to cool down.

>>22255608
Honestly, it could’ve stayed down longer. It’s back now and the deranged American is already shitting up other threads. Give it a day before he’s back here.

>>22255611
>Give it a day before he’s back here.
Half an hour

>>22255611
Lol. You're so mad this entire thread is you getting destroyed by a bunch of anons because you're stupid enough to think putting oil in pasta water prevents the pasta from sticking. Now you're inventing paranoid conspiracies about Americans following you to other threads instead of admitting you're a stupid idiot.

>>22255632
And here he is. I can tell you’re already assblasted. This isn’t good for your heart.

>>22255632
Something tells me he's had paranoid delusions about Americans way before he shit up this thread.

>>22255611
>He was mad yesterday because he got beaten into submission in >>22250659 before he posted in this thread.

>>22255632
>>22255636
The site’s only been back for like 30 minutes. No need to samefag so soon.

>>22255632
already saw your seething in the pasta water thread, lmao

>>22255645
Can you link the thread?

>>22255632
>>22255636
>>22255641
>>22255634

Nice try American samefag. You are not fooling anybody.

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>>22255647
You samefag, then you try to pretend it's other people who do it. Disgusting.

>>22255647
“Two of these are less than 60 seconds apart. You should pay more attention before outright lying, champ.

>>22255641
>>22255645
>>22255647
Samefag brown

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>>22255653
“You sure like to make a spectacle of yourself.

>>22255657
Yes we know you have dynamic IP. It doesn't make your pathetic samefagging any less obvious.

>>22255659
>Be me
>American fuck yeah copes is my personality
>Someone on the internet makes me upset
>Call him brown, Indian, and ESL
>WTF, it doesn’t work
>Big brain moment: let’s samefag
>Get caught =(
>Big brain moment 2: accuse others of doing it
>Get proven wrong
>REEEEEEE, actually it’s le dynamic IP and... and...
Genuinely pathetic, man.

>>22255664
You're incapable of cooking pasta.

Wait. I'm confused. I always thought putting oil in the pasta water to keep it from sticking was an old wives tale like "searing meat locks in the juices". I'm pretty it's a myth that's been debunked. Why is there a weirdo anti-American schizo poster losing his mind over this ITT? Does he think Italians put oil in their pasta water?

>>22255665
“Again? Come on, you had a whole day to come up with an argument. Give me something better, little brown.

>>22255667
>I'm pretty it's a myth that's been debunked
That is correct.
>Why is there a weirdo anti-American schizo poster losing his mind over this ITT?
GREAT question.

>>22255667
And he did samefag again. Come on, I know you're not bright, but the unrelated-bypasser saying "weirdo anti-American schizo poster" is just...

>>22255653
of course, we are the ESL anonymous, we are legion. and we're tracking your IP, buddy...

>>22255668
And you had a whole day to learn to cook pasta without putting oil in the water. But I understand you were busy at the call center.

>>22255676
you tend to call this other guy brown, but aren't like half of the southern states filled with beaners? pot literally calling the kettle black

>>22255676
>no u, u brown
Monkey see, monkey copy.

>>22255687
>>22255688
Samefag brown

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>>22255692
You really do repeat yourself a lot, don’t you?

You really need to stop samefagging before you start crying that others are doing it when you get caught.

>>22255692
buddy, I even agreed with your sentiment about not needing to add oil into pasta water, but you're just act like a fucking loon, kek

>>22255696
Still brown.

>>22255699
Buddy, you're still brown.

>>22255700
>u brown
The funny part is that I’m actually white, while I can’t say the same about you.

>>22255699
*you're just acting
>le minor spelling mistake

>>22255704
I think the guy you replied may be onto something, the way you behave reminds me a lot of the Indians I know.

>>22255703
>obvious ESL
>active at a time when Europeans are asleep
>"I'm white!!"
Sure thing jeet.

>>22255702
if your last name is Sanchez-adjacent, don't try raising your voice about ethnicity

>>22255707
There's not a Sanchez in the world who's browner than you, jeet.

>>22255708
>Pancho Villa's strongest soldier spotted

>>22255706
>You don't speak English in the American dialect, you must be brown, hahaha
Now this is some next gen retardation. Also isn't speaking English (US) a strong sight one is not white?

>>22255710
You. Are. Brown.

>>22255711
You speak English in the Punjabi dialect.

>>22255712
you talking to your Aztec ancestors there, buddy?

>>22255708
Apparently Sanchez is the 26th most common surname in the US, being more common than Clark, Harris in 27th and 28th place.

This data is from 2010, today it should be like 10th.

>>22255714
Having worked with lots of Indians, I’m surprised how close the way you write is to South Asian English.

All that is missing is the vocative particle spam.

>>22255715
No, I'm talking to you.
>>22255717
Does that make you less brown?

>>22255721
You need to project a bit less. Just because you’re not white doesn’t mean you have to call everyone else brown nonstop.

I looked it up and got this. It tracks in my experience. Ensuring sauce adherence is also why rinsing pasta is a bad idea.

>Adding oil to pasta water is a culinary myth that does not prevent noodles from sticking and actually harms the final dish by preventing sauce from adhering to the pasta. Because oil is less dense than water and hydrophobic, it floats to the surface rather than mixing with the water or coating the submerged noodles during cooking.

>When the pasta is drained, it passes through this surface layer, picking up a thin, greasy film that creates a barrier against sauces like marinara, pesto, or cream-based blends. To effectively keep pasta from sticking, use plenty of water, salt the water for flavor, and stir frequently during the first few minutes of cooking when starch release is highest. While oil can technically disrupt surface tension to reduce boil-overs, this benefit is outweighed by the loss of sauce adhesion and the waste of quality olive oil.

>>22255722
Post hand, jeet.

>>22255721
>No, I'm talking to you.
pal, you do know the man in the mirror is you, and not me

>>22255723
Yes we know. There's just one mentally ill Indian arguing otherwise.

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>>22255722
Here's the proper longer list, this is very interesting.

>>22255724
Will this make you suddely become white?

>>22255727
You look cute begging others to side with you, little brown.

>>22255728
Now let's see the list for your country.

>>22255731
>Ok, I'm a brown guy from a Garcia, Rodriguez and Martinez country... but if I say "no u", then I can cope.
Come on, isn't it fun to call others brown?

>>22255734
>isn't it fun to call others brown?
Yes, brown. It is.

>>22255735
>No, I cannot be not the brown one, you're brown
The cope of this nigga.

>>22255738
Post brown hand.

>>22255731
you're having a racial crisis over a pasta water thread, yanks are truly G-d's greatest clowns

Fuck back to >>pol mutt

>>22255743
You know the type: not even white in the loosest sense, yet he thinks he’s a Hyperborean reborn, obsessed with race and incapable of talking about any subject without bringing it up.

>>22255746
Just a brown hand dumping oil into his pasta water. That's you.

>>22255746
Ok but does oil in the pasta water do anything or not?

>>22255749
>>22255753
>double reply in seething anger
oh no no no no...

>>22255753
>reeeeeeeee, you noticed I only spam /pol/ crap and don't talk about the subject, let me pretend it's you, not me, who does it.
Doing this again, little brown?

>>22255754
A brown hand feverishly refreshing this thread hoping for another chance to accuse anyone capable of cooking pasta of being the same person.

>>22255760
Still salty that you samefagged half a dozen times and got caught every single time?

>>22255754
>>22255756
Samebrown

>>22255760
>>22255762
oh shit nigger what are you DOING

>>22255761
Still brown?

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>>22255762
I get it. You samefagged, got caught, did it again, got caught again, and now you’re desperately pretending everyone else is the one doing it.

How about you just stop shitting the thread?

This is why removing the IP counter was a mistake. It allows a single retard to shit up an entire thread with impunity. Btw putting oil in the noodle water is a waste of water.

>>22255765
I kinda just wanna see this go on for perpetuity, this yank's genuinely mentally ill

>>22255765
How about you brush up on your English proficiency before you attempt to converse with native speakers?

>>22255770
>Ingore my English sounds Indian, u ESL
I think it's in a loop.

>>22255769
I'm enjoying it far more than think.

>>22255765
>>22255769
Samebrown

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>>22255775
Why are Americans like this?

>>22255769
You're both mentally ill desu

>>22255777
what? I'm just here to enjoy the oilduel of these two

>>22255777
Does bullying the mentally ill counts as a mental illness?

>>22255779
throwing a racial hissy fit in a pasta water thread certainly does

>>22255782
There should be way to block this american guy, I'll test filtering by 'brown', 'ESL' and 'indian'.

>>22255778
Oh sorry, I thought you were the other mentally ill anon. Both of them are insane and it's hilarious.

>>22255785
By taking random potshots at the ill you're doing God's work.

>>22255782
I tried to have a rational conversation with him but eventually his overwhelming jeetiness just became too much to bear.

>>22255791
so you stoop to the level of a raging amerimutt caricature obsessed with race? I expected better from you

>>22255791
“Do you really need to beg bystanders to side with you, and lie while you’re at it?

Come on, anyone can read the thread and see how "rational" you've been.

>>22255795
At the end of the day I am vindicated by the fact that I'm at least on the right side of the argument. There's no reason to put oil in pasta water.

>>22255796
Anyone can read the thread and see that you're incapable of cooking pasta.

>>22255797
>At the end of the day I am vindicated
I don't think all the lying, samefagging, accusing other doing what you did, race spamming and generally being a mutt is justified.

>>22255797
“After your little episode, I’m not sure you’re capable of cooking.

>>22255801
And you still can't cook pasta.

>>22255790
It's healthier for them to have meltdowns on /ck/ over completely ridiculous things like oil in pasta water or umami vs savory than for them to melt down IRL and harass and fight with their family, friends, and strangers.

>>22255801
>>22255805
Samebrown

>>22255797
hey bud, you were the one who opened the /pol/ race pandora's box, there's truly no going back now, no matter how hard you grovel at the feet of the oilking.

>>22255807
What’s the problem? Did you stop calling people brown in every reply after everyone laughed at you?

Apparently no, >>22255812 kek, you really can't help yourself.

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>>22255808
>It's healthier for them to have meltdowns on /ck/ over completely ridiculous things like oil in pasta water or umami vs savory than for them to melt down IRL and harass and fight with their family, friends, and strangers.
My friend, what is umami vs savory?

>>22255812
Do you think that doing this will help you to hide all the samefagging you did?

>>22255817
>umami vs savory?
UMAMI VS SAVORY?! FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING STUPID BROWNOID FUCKING INDIAN JEET FUCKFART POST HAND NOOOOOOOW

>>22255819
I still don't get it.

>>22255823
Of course you don't. You can't even cook pasta. How could you possibly comprehend savory vs. umami?

>>22255826
Wait a minute, this mutt having a breadown is the same mutt who had a breakdown with the word Umami being "unamerican"? Kek

How many hours a day you keep doing this?

>>22255812
>>22255826
samebeaner

>>22255817
>what is umami vs savory
Let's not open that can of worms. You've proven you can't handle something as simple as being wrong about oil in pasta water. You do not want to get into the umami vs savory argument. It gets really ugly.

>>22255830
Lol, to think this is some famous schizo. You truly didn’t disappoint with the show.

>>22255830
simple, umami is bullshit talk for savory. end of.

>>22255827
His paranoid delusions escalate. He will start to see the phantom mutt everywhere until it consumes him.

>>22255833
Savory and umami are not the same thing, tard.

>>22255838
yes they are, doubletard.

>>22255836
You really need to stop samefagging.

And better than that, stop shitting up thread after thread: >>22250659

>>22255839
From the Cambrigde dictionary:
>Savory (or savoury in British English) most commonly means a food that is salty, spicy, or rich in umami (meaty) flavor rather than sweet

What the fuck are you every thing to claim?

>>22255842
>He will start to see the phantom mutt everywhere until it consumes him.

>>22255839
>>22255833
Savory is something that has a lot of flavor, it doesn't matter if the flavor in question is salty, spicy, butty or umami.

Umami is a flavor.

>>22255845
People laughing at you seeing the One ESL brown really cut deep, you're even doing your little "no u" cope with it.

>>22255844
>most commonly
so in other words, umami is a subflavor of savory. suck on these umami flavored nads, tripletard.

He's grabbing the umami vs savory bait. No one tell him about the rice cooker and air fryer wars.

>thread up for 30 hours, 20 of which the site was down
>almost at bump limit
i don't know what it is about /ck/ but i seem to encounter a higher number of 2 autists shitflinging for much of a thread more often here than other boards

>>22255846
Is salted pasta water savory or umami? Does adding oil to it change the equation?

>>22255847
Bro you're literally linking to multiple other threads accusing people of being me. You are delusional.

>>22255849
>so in other words, umami is a subflavor of savory
So is spicy by this stupid logic of yours, kek.

Why are Americans like this?

>>22255855
Oh, I guess it’s some other anon who writes exactly the same way, goes ballistic trying to claim ‘umami is actually just a foreign word for savory,’ repeats ‘America, fuck yeah’ nonstop, and is physically incapable of not calling everyone brown when they prove him wrong.

>>22255851
I cannot get enough of it honestly, two brave soldiers, unshaken in their resolve, duel about oil in pasta water

>>22255851
I'm a bit guilt of kept this thread going fast.
,

>>22255857
I'm not the american you're thinking of, I was just shitstirring for fun

>>22255851
This schizo never fails to deliver.

>>22255861
The only thing you proved was that you're incapable of cooking pasta.

>>22255869
And by coincidence you are arguing about this "actually umami is savory in my head", or have I replied to the wrong person?

I think the mutt schizo is here >>22255871

>>22255871
and you proved your mexican complexion, ay yai yai amígo...

>>22255878
I wonder what will be his next performance? I bet on the tapas thread.

>>22255881
definitely one of the breakfast burrito threads, the yanks come out in droves for those

>>22255881
Some bloke’s only gone and made a /pol/ race-bait thread about that American meme of white people and spicy food.

>>22255878
>>22255881
Samebrown