>be me >vegan>read up on glyphosate>ok, I'm not eating Roundup.>Buy organic Broccoli>fucking worms in itfuck this gay earth
>>22281304You deserve it.
>>22281304Organic isn't a controlled term and people can use whatever the god damn fuck pesticides they want and still call it "organic", including glyphosate. Unless you grow it yourself, it has poison on it and in it. Even if you grow it yourself, microplastics are present in 100% of the earth's soil and water, even deep underground aquifers, so you're still going to consume them whether you want to or not.
>veganHave fun being vitamin B12 deficient.Reminder that you have to be vegetarian at the very least, eat some chicken eggs to get your vitamins. Otherwise you are going to be malnourished.
>>22281495fuck this gay earth
>>22281684We need a serious population culling event. COVID could've been that but instead we got a retarded fever.
>>22281693>We need a serious population culling eventNot including you, of course.
>>22281304Stop being so fussy about food. You have to come to terns with the reality that food production and prep involves some things that are frowned upon by the vegan cult, the social media food hysterics and (you).
>>22281304>veganThere's your problem.>>22281693>COVID could've been that but instead we got a retarded fever.Not just that, but it further emboldened the idiots who survived.
>>22281697Nah it's fine. I'm ready to die, and if I survive that'll be a trip.>>22281702>Not just that, but it further emboldened the idiots who survived.the worst of both worlds
>>22281702no, the problem is glyphosate is used in all produce. what, are you going to stop eating vegetables?
>>22281709>Nah it's fine. I'm ready to die, and if I survive that'll be a trip.could you get ready to stop being an idiot
>>22281304Veganism is a mental illness.You should be locked up in a mental asylum and kept away from the general population.God I hope you do not have kids or pets.
>>22281511Meat eaters are also B12 deficient unless they supplement or eat a ton of seafood. Factory farmed livestocked are all B12 deficient which is why virtually all B12 supplements are given to livestock, which then turns into B12 you get from eating livestock. >But that doesn't count because I had a cow digest it first!Cope.
>>22281693reducing the population isn't going to change the makeup of the elites that are the cause of all this malaise anon
>>22281775so if i simply eat the meat I can buy at the store I'll get the B12 I need (unlike a vegan). sound's like you're the one coping m8.
>>22281699>Just shut up and eat the RoundUp goy!>Don’t you know China is beating us?
Prior to making dietary decisions based on your vitamin B12 needs, you should go to doctor and actually have your B12 level tested. Most of the population do not need to prioritize B12 in their diet let alone supplement it.
>>22281833>Most of the population do not need to prioritize B12 in their diet let alone supplement it.That's because most people aren't vegetarians
>>22281304>be me>also vegan>hate almost all vegetables
>>22281783Retarded take
“I don’t know where food comes from” energy
>>22281783>If I eat supplemented B12 then I don't need B12Correct>unlike a veganIncorrect.
whats rich as a vegan is watch /ck/'s best come out of the woodwork to tell me how unhealthy my lifestyle is while you fatties debate fucking donuts or hagen dazs for the 50 millionth time
>>22281495Mega wrong on all accounts.Certified organic is a legally regulated term explicitly prohibiting synthetic pesticides including glyphosate.>Does certified organic food have fewer pesticide residues? Yes — this is well-established>USDA Pesticide Data Program analyses (Baker, Benbrook et al.) found 73% of conventional samples had detectable residues versus roughly one-third as often for organic>Benbrook's 2021 Agronomy paper found conventional produce carried ~2.7–17× more residues per sample, with toxicity-weighted Dietary Risk Index values 52× higher for conventional vegetables and 132× higher for conventional fruits>EWG's annual analysis of USDA data finds ~75% of non-organic produce has residues>Human biomonitoring studies (e.g., Curl et al., covered by Time) found people eating conventional produce had significantly higher urinary organophosphate metabolites than organic eaters>Are organic-approved pesticides less harmful? Generally yes on average: Organic-approved substances (neem, Bt, plant oils, sulfur, diatomaceous earth) tend to have lower acute human toxicity and faster environmental breakdown than most synthetic counterpartsEating conventional produce is still a net benefit though compared to not eating any.
>>22282130>>22281495You are right about microplastics and growing your own, I was addessing the organic claim.Also there are products that are certified pesticide-free and glyphosate free, even if not organic.
>>22282101>tell me how unhealthy my lifestyle isPersonally, I think it has less to do with health and more to do with the fact that all vegans are child abusers.You are a monster.
>>22281304You were under some impression that pesticides didn't become popular for a reason and that people just used them for the fucking flavor?
>>22281304Its all poison one way or anotherI do try for organic as well even though im sure half of its scammed and mislabeled.
>>22281775>Factory farmed livestocked are all B12 deficientI sure hope you can back up that claim with scientific evidence.>meat eatersI was talking about eggs. Not meat.>>22281883Being a vegetarian is fine, being a vegan is not.The difference is that the former consume milk and eggs, the latter do not.
>>22281304>read up on glyphosateThen you SHOULD know it's trace amounts, and that major scientific bodies (EFSA, EPA, WHO) conclude that that low-level dietary exposure to glyphosate residues poses NO significant risk to human health. Moreover, the nutritional benefits of eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains FAR outweigh any such theoretical health risks.>organic broccoli, wormsoh no, you gotta leisurly inspect and wash fresh producewill expect higher effort posts from you vegbro
>>22281304Have you considered not being a vegan? Your life would change for the better in every conceivable way.
>>22283183Apart from nutrition, vitality, not being part of a mentally ill cult.
>>22283243You just described veganism.
>veganIt's mind-boggling how some people today lack critical thinking and are either carnivores or vegans in modern day, it's like people forgot about other diets like the pescatarian one. Same ones who rate businesses with either 5 stars or 1 star. Veganism used to be fringe two decades ago, we're omnivores and the human body needs protein for health and overall function which a varied yet radically vegan diet hardly provides, unless you're eating a lot of beans and peanuts everyday which sounds depressing.>refuses to eat normal human diet by supporting an industry that takes away animals' food while avoiding companies that treat their farm animals with humane care>complains about fruits and vegetables naturally spoiling sometimes<fuck this gay earthThat's how you win a Darwin award.
>>22283415>avoiding companies that treat their farm animals with humane careYou are the retard lacking critical thinking. But I'm sure you only get your meat from your Uncle who hugs and kisses his cows and lets them sleep in bed with him in the winter and says a prayer over each one after they gently pass away after being humanely slaughtered
>>22283482And people think that vegans are exceptionally unhinged.
>>22281304>>be me >>veganYou should have stopped there, better luck in your next life.
>>22283415>it's like people forgot about other diets like the pescatarian one.Veganism isn't a diet it's a religion. It's one of the highest forms of virtue signaling.
>>22283415>Veganism used to be fringe two decades ago,The number of people who are vegan is still pretty low.
>>22283561I'm not a vegan but people who take this stance against it always seem to be irrational to me. I don't think veganism is ideal for health, but I can at least understand why most of them do it since the way we treat animals isn't great. Arguments about health and the environment and whatever usually come later and aren't actually as important since for most of them they likely go vegan just because they feel bad for the animals.
I've been vegan for 2 years but I'm starting to have doubts.. why is it bad again??
>>22283591Eggs and dairy are demonstrably fine and healthy to consume. That's the only difference between vegan and vegetarian, whether eggs and dairy are okay to eat. Fish too, for that matter, it's some of the most healthy animal protein you can get and ranks very low on the whole "horrible animal suffering" index if that's what you're in to.
>>22283591Nutrients in plant foods aren't absorbed or used as easily by your body, although it seems like maybe some people digest plants better than others. Some people may be more likely to do okay on a vegan diet even if everyone can't. Although you should probably still make sure you're not getting too low on things like B12 and iron which are harder to get on a vegan diet.
>>22283605I'm skeptical about the whole B12 thing. I went vegetarian 2 years ago and was worried about my B12 levels, but every time I've been tested they've ranged from nominal to slightly too high. I suspect that there are some vegetarians out there who just eat like shit. They don't eat meat but they don't eat fuckall vegetables either, just highly processed sweets and carbs and pastries and cakes. I'm very fastidious about eating lots of legumes, vegetables, and protein in the form of tofu, tempeh, and seitan.
>>22283597Fish is one of the highest ranking for suffering though. Beef is the lowest because cows are big.
>>22283612Lolwut, what does the animal's size have to do with suffering? Industrial cattle farming is horrifying.
I've travelled in central america and china. A safe standard used in the rest of the world: if it has a thick shell you (think melon) it's probably fine.If it has a lot of surface area (think lettuce), then you're usually OK, but you risk whatever they used for pesticides, and whatever (whoever) they used for fertilizer
>>22283616One cow can provide many meals.
>>22283591Vegooner of 5 years hereI don't know what you're struggling with and it's healthy to have doubts about anything, but why would you trust random loons here to tell you instead of doctors or the scientific consensus?
>>22283609You might've been consuming something supplemented with B12. But B12 is actually stored in your liver unlike other B vitamins so you can go a few years without consuming any before it gets low.
