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/wg/ whiskey general - Four Roses 100 proof is pretty good edition

For all whiskey and whisky related discussion it’s barrels of fun
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Thoughts on Bushmills? I wanna try some more Irish stuff.
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Tonight I'm sipping on Owl of Oz from Onyx & Amber. It's pretty nice, a blend of OZ Tyler and MGP. I get an explosion of fruit on the palate, with red fruits and some tropical fruits as well, followed quickly by nutmeg and oak. The finish is pretty weak. Overall its enjoyable but not great.
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Ralfy's latest review has him wearing two pairs of glasses at the same time. what is happening to our man?
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>>22282139
jameson tier i.e. a mixer and nothing else
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i once saw bourbon described as a crayola 24 back whereas scotch is the 120 pack and i agree with that.
i enjoy bourbon a lot, but due to the strict requirements regarding mash bill, new oak cask requirements, majority of it coming from the same part of the US, etc. it all tends to taste very similar after a while
but with scotch and other single malts, you can get so many different varieties, peated vs unpeated, ex-bourbon vs sherry vs rum vs whatever else you want to age it in, and the variety is just to much greater than anything bourbon has to offer
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>>22282139
>>22282531
bushmills and jameson are both great basics. I pretty much do them as high balls, and only occassionally go straight. if i want to go straight, i drink scotch.
same with tullamore, harp and hare. all just solid basics with no brainer prices points.
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>>22282127
I just bought some bitters off of amazon and they didn't even ID me
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>>22282617
As a frequent whiskey orderer I've encountered a couple of retailers who sent alcohol without any ID check requirement. I'm not sure if it was just in error or if they really give no fucks about laws. Either way, pretty based.
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>>22282139
It's made by protestants, so it's not really Irish.
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A few months back there was a big sale on a formula 1 edition glenfiddich 16 and even though im not really a fan of either F1 or GF I grabbed a bottle and i ended up liking it more than I thought i would
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>>22282139
Back in the 80s and such a bottle of bushmills would practically come with the house you bought, stashed in a cabinet somewhere left by the last guy who sold the place. It was practically a ubiquitous bottle. It was a little tastier and richer back then if the old heads are to believed


Everyone should try bushmills at least to get that north Ireland style whiskey in their memory, it kinda reminds me of like a blended scotch but not if that makes sense, you can taste the malt in it.

I paid $17 for the bottle of bushmills in my collection it’s well worth it at that price


>>22282494
Who is Oz Tyler where do they make their stuff l?
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Lagavulin 16 is so shit compared to other scotch of the same type and price range it's unreal. I can barely believe 8 and special release memes like 12 were made by the same distillery.
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>>22283557
>who is Oz Tyler?
It's just Green River before it became Green River. I don't really understand how it's any different from modern Green River but it is, apparently.
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>>22282127
OP. I remember back in the day when I was a sushi chef and a major alcoholic, around christmas one of our regulars came in and handed me a bottle of four roses. I cant remember exactly what kind it was. Anyway, after work I nearly drank the whole 5th and got completely blacked out. The next day I looked it up and that was like a 200$ bottle. I remember it was really good compared to the shitty evan williams i usually drink, and i didnt have a hang over the next day what so ever.
Kinda wish I would have enjoyed it more though, oh well.
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>>22283629
Diagio is pausing production of all 2026 special releases, they have received a 27% drop in profitability so far in 2025
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>>22284131
Sorry I meant 2027 and 2026 I evidently forgot what year I was in
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>>22283557
in 2008 my sisters house came with a near empty bottle of WT 81, a brand new bottle of Capt Morgan and a bunch hard rock and heavy metal cds.
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>>22283267
theres too much on the market as is. same sale happend here too.
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I had some Glenmorangie Port cask but it was basically whiskey with a dash of Port.
I love Port but for me it clashed and added nothing. The Sherry casks were less obvious about it.
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>>22282139
I bought the 8 year Black Bush recently
Any opinions on that one? Haven't tried it yet. Tullamore Dew was okay
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>>22284501
i dont go up the Bush price ladder. not sure how an irish gains.

you tell us!!
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>>22284377
Kavalan Solist port cask is a really good port finish imo. The port is prominent but not overwhelming like some finishes where they clearly used very wet casks. The subtle tropical notes of the distillate are allowed to shine through and integrate nicely with the port.
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>>22282617
>>22283239
You do know they can gather your age information from your credit card, right?
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Is Irish whiskey the best for noobs?
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>>22283692
Nice, some of those 4roses special release bottles are amazing

>>22284359
I wonder what the 2026 equivalent of this is? Maybe some buzz balls or a bottle of fireball and a little dirt cheap Bluetooth speaker

I hear women are really into prosecco based spritzers these days, both bar tenders and a liquor store owner have mentioned this to me lately
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Is the basic bitch brick bottle Jack Daniels found in every pub on Earth considered absolute shit tier or just average?
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>>22284884
Old No. 10? It's okay for mixed drinks. Wouldn't go out of my way for a neat pour unless I was desperate.
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I ordered a mystery bottle from SMWS and received pic rel. It's from Auchroisk which I've never heard of or tried. The description doesn't really sound like my jam but it could be good.

>>22284789
Sure, I've ordered other things that go through an age verification process when placing the order, but never for booze. Maybe they are checking with the CC somehow, but shipping without ID verification on delivery seems like it should be illegal idk. They're more than likely just declaring it as "glassware" when shipping, though I'm not complaining because being able to order whiskey is a game changer. Most of my favorite bottles aren't even distributed where I live.
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>>22284886
This one I think. Never cared to learn its exact label since I just assumed whiskey in general is one of those beverages one politely endures when offered. Same goes for whatever the common Jim Beam is.
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>>22284905
Oh yeah I have no idea why I wrote No. 10. I think I was looking at my Gin bottles and subconsciously saw Tanqueray No. 10 hah.
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>>22284804
It's pretty easy drinking, but so is bourbon
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>>22284884
It's not shit tier but pretty meh for sipping, more for mixing
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>>22285018
>>22285007
Pretty sure it was No. 7 then.
>It's okay for mixed drinks
Thing is I don't like it much with coke either. Has a very strong flavor of what I can best describe as fake smoke, and the effect it specifically has on the back of my tongue isn't exactly pleasant either.
The question I forgot to actually ask thus far is: would giving the genre another go with a slightly less cheapo label (looking at the archive Wild Turkey 101 seems like a good start) be worth it or it's very likely just not my kind of deal?
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>>22285054
I mean if you want a Tennessee whiskey, even upgrading to a Jack Daniels single barrel is a huge upgrade. Or WT101. Or Four Roses Small Batch/Single Barrel. The World is your oyster.
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>>22282139
go all out and get redbreast if you want a delicious irish one.
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Total Wine had some EH Taylor on the floor so I picked one up.
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>>22284897
where are you and where did you order from?
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>>22285269
You can order from everywhere. Outside of extremely tiny craft distilleries and the large distilleries, most of the rest put their stock online and offer shipping to most states.
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>>22285146
Is it actually decent it’s sitting on shelves at a lot of places around here but they are asking like $70
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>>22285144
shit
i can get like 4 bottles of bushmills for one of those
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>>22285305
I heard now the delivery companies are charging an additional $50 per bottle for customs, duty and other (((fees))).
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>>22284377
>>22284772
basil hayden dark is a weird one whwre they blend port directly in iirc
I kinda liked it when I ordered it at a whiskey bar but wouldn’t buy a bottle personally. kinda neat that they made it though
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>>22285821
port in my whiskey?
No.
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>>22285860
*pours fino into your dram*
SIIIIIIIIIP
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>>22284897
>Brake dust on the fuchs? Oh my god, brake dust on the fuchs!
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>>22284812
yeah it must have been a special release for around the holidays. I remember knowing I was a full blown alcoholic but wouldnt let anyone know and tried to keep it a secret. I remember like a week or two later he came in and asked me how I liked it. I was like "Oh man, it was super smooth! Really good stuff. I still have over half the bottle left, haha, thanks again"
yikes.
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Interesting online drop from new riff today:
https://shop.newriffdistilling.com/products/new-riff-holiday-high-note-3-pack
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>>22287404
Also Seelbachs has the Murray Hill Club #5 for a reasonable amount
https://seelbachs.com/products/joseph-magnus-murray-hill-club-special-release
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For me it's Wild Turkey 101. The extra half a percent really makes the difference.
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I'm sipping on a 14 year 95/5 rye and it's like drinking cherry cola garnished with oak and a sprig of mint. Every time I pour this one I initially think it's way over oaked but then after easing into it, it's really quite good. It has a lovely sharpie/varnish note on the nose which I'm all for.
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>>22288021
How do I get it what’s it called
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>>22288094
Hughes Brothers Belle of Bedford. I got mine online from Seelbachs for ~$150.
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my Infinite laziness led me to the Infinity Glass where I just pour something new into the glass once the last thing has fully evaporated
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>>22283629
Why bother with Lagavulin when Ardbeg and Port Charlotte exist?
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>>22287683
wt101 is just incredible. the value to price is insane
and it actually tastes great so i always have it on the shelf
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anyone also into cognac or brandies? or eau de vies?
i love whiskey but after well over a decade of it being my go-to spirit choice i am just looking to try other styles and mix it up
i try to get into rum but i just find it hard. don't know what it is about rum, but i get this feeling of wanting to vomit whenever i taste it. i can do aged rums a lot better but they just end up tasting like whiskey
i want to try cognac but don't know where to start. i tried courvoisier vs and i enjoy it, but it tastes a bit harsh, possibly due to being vs and only 2 years old

whiskey has pretty strict laws about flavorings and additives, but cognac has fewer so i'm reading that most of the common stuff is actually flavored and not good quality



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