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Post crossdressers, otoko no ko, androgynous boys, etc.

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You know those cortisol spikes you get from interacting with women? I have it right now, but it's been a while and I do not feel it rushing down. I need help. A cure.
It is written, only the most pure forms of cuteness and positive energy can cure cortisol from women. And only boys can embody it. Please, provide me with cute androgynous boys to cure my severe illness.
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>>4018382
Have you considered psychiatric help?
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Alright this is my last Jairou post. Just a big fan of his art.
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>>4018382
Stress causes cortisol levels to spike. What you mean cure cortisol? Just don't get stressed.
Sleep reduces cortisol levels, too.
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>>4018579
Jairou and ikezaki misa are my favorite trap artist, wish they would do more doujins, i know ikezaki misa has created the design for 2 vtubers, but has anyone used a design made by jairou? An entire gen or company only about trap/otokonko vtuber could make money.
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I have a primal desire to fill this boy in the middle with my fluids. That being said, he is probably already claimed by the other 2 boys, with their fluids inside him. He is basically screaming for it in every cloth he puts on. He is the quintessential cum bucket.
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>>4018950
>he doesnt know the characters
Your newfaggotry disgusts me
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>>4019923
of course I know who Len, Kaito and Gackpo are you stupid low IQ faggot. How else would I be claiming Len looks super sexy in every cloth he uses?
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>>4019925
>doesnt use the name in the initial post
>talks about it as if he didnt know the background lore of the song
Your fucking fault
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>>4020979
ew no ai slop please
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>>4021006
How can you know it's AI?
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>>4018285
I wasn’t a fan of this game personally
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>>4021006
Give me a break, there's like 20 decent pieces of Loran art out there, and we've all seen them a million times already. Ai is honestly a blessing for older forgotten characters.
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>>4021007
he has 3 pupils in one eye. that's not a canon trait. the shadows/highlights/shading on the foot also make no sense. the lighting in the background doesn't match to the lighting on the character.

>>4021014
>and we've all seen them a million times already
this is my first time seeing what you posted. didn't know po-ju drew that. again, please don't post ai slop, there's so much good trap art by humans out there.
i swear i'm not even an ai nihilist i enjoy it on occasion i just don't want to see it on a board specifically for art
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>>4013561
rosado boysex (I have not played this game despite having owned it since launch because fuck nintendo of america)
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Just started reading his manga
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>>4024057
Akira sex
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>>4024057
What's the title?

>>4024100
Name his band.
Bocchi the Cock
Ambush!
Rolling Balls
Red Hot Chill Peppers (no need to change it)
The Bishounen Family
Goo Fighters
Trapped Castles
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>>4024114
Kemono Jihen
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>>4024114
Fuwafuwa Bubbletea
Ligma Lollipop
3 Inches of Cock
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>>4024183
The backseat lovers (perfect as is)
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>>4024057
I love his little outfits.
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>>4024858
Okay here is a little game then. So only one of these two is a boy, they're twins.
Which one do you think is the boy?
Don't cheat! I realized this late myself because I saw the pics first on booru and one of them was wrongly tagged as trap.
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>>4024888
second picture is the female
t. veteran trapologist with long experience with kagamine twins and kinoshita twins from baka test, and other twins.
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>>4024898
Bubbuuuu wrong! You can now check which one have the otokonoko tag on pixiv for the reveal.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/142187590
In this particular case of twins, opposite to his sister, the boy (Kaya) is the one with the shorter hair and his right eye is green while the left eye is yellow. The yellow bow is also always to his right side while the green fish hair clips are on his the left side. Good to remember I guess.
I know, even when knowing all this lore it's hard to tell sometimes.
But here is more Kaya.
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>>4024902
Oh damn. When checking pictures in the booru, it becomes apparent who is the boy and who is the girl. The ones you posted are misleading because it's usually the boys who are dressed more flamboyantly
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>>4024857
>>4024858
You've already given the answer, but I guessed it right before seeing that. People who create these kinds of traps almost always draw the boy as the more reserved and demure one, like Menae from Made in Abyss. The other anon mentioned the Kagamines, but the pattern somewhat holds true even there. Len isn't always depicted that way. But when the two are being contrasted, Len is usually shown to be more shy, anxious, or pouty against Rin's exuberance.
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>>4024941
First pic has a round face, second pic isn't that round, therefore male.
t. professional gooner
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>>4024941
Not always so really we should never try to determine this stuff by clothing alone.
>>4024949
Oh yes, the boy being more reserved, and shy in contrast to the sister happens very often and I always wondered why.
This most of the time makes the boy appear more "feminine" as having such a passive personality is more often associated with females and when these are the opposite of that they tend to be called tomboys, alluding to having a "boyish" attitude.
Len is indeed not always like that, at least not officially. With his passive personalities being mostly fan creations.
In any case it's pretty neat because this accentuates the trapness of these boys.
Maybe that's exactly why?
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>>4025046
>Maybe that's exactly why?
I think so. Obviously I can't say for sure what these artists are thinking. But the impression I get is that they're doubling down on the "femininity". They obviously like drawing boys with some traditionally feminine characteristics. So giving them what is generally seen as a feminine personality, and especially contrasting them with a more "boyish" sister, is just more of that.
Not all trap artists are like this. Some definitely seem to like more of a contrast of masculine vs feminine and accentuate some boyishness. But they usually draw in a different style. Longer limbs, more angular features. Simpler, less frilly, more form fitting clothes. The smaller and softer and rounder and fluffier an artist draws their boys, the more likely they are to give them a gentle, reserved, anxious, and/or shy personality.
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It's Chihiro's birthday! Happy birthday Chihiro!
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>>4025439
Chu
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>>4018284
Bridget my beloved boy, please come back to me. I'm so sick of living in a timeline where you got erased, co-opted and assassinated by faggots all around me.
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>>4018284
It’s funny how femboys on HRT are a thing in anime now
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>>4025620
Yeah. Funny.
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>>4025622
HRT Femboys are cool, especially if they’re adamant about still being male (it takes a big independent streak to do that not think you’re a woman).
It’s not a clean thing but it’s the only way a naturally feminine male will keep his neoteny into adulthood. It’s an open secret most twinks unnaturally resistant to twink death are doing it and lie and claim they’re just naturally fem.
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>>4025631
I mean, they're not delusional, and they don't expect people to play along with their shit, but on the other hand they're still destroying themselves with hormones. Why can't people just be happy with the way they are?
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>>4025632
> Why can't people just be happy
Probably because the dreaded onions disease scared any twink with an ounce of self preservation.
Think about it, all those balding, bearded, pear faced, rotund, gaping mouth men with the minds of children are what society calls ‘feminine men’. It’s gross, numales are inexplicably gross.
HRT + cardio keep that body from ever manifesting. There are downsides like chest tumors but it beats being anything like basedjak.
TLDR meme culture broke a generation of twinks
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>>4025620
>headcanon
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People are so scared of being men. Of living.
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>>4025617
He still exists and he might be older now but still looking great with thick thighs and ass and he's forever a boy. Stop validating what retarded secondaries say.
>>4025620
How about you prove your nonsense? because nowhere it's been stated that he's taking the evil pills.
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>>4025706
True
All that’s confirmed is he has boy booba and is a male (thank god since males are cooler than females).

Maybe it’s a hormone imbalance idk. But 99% of the time when you have a twink with bitch tits, you know why.
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>>4025706
Sorry
Forgot to post him
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>>4025709
Boys can have some boobs without taking pills, anon. Be it gynecomastia or excess fat that happen to stay only around the breast area for whatever reason.
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>>4025705
Or mostly just scared of twink death/basedjakitis to the point lesser evils seem better.
>>4025712
Yeah, although it’s kind of funny since he looked normal in flashbacks.
Most of the time, if a feminine, skinny adult male has then hormone imbalance is just a convenient excuse.
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>>4025725
Jesus christ. I really desperately hope my dick and balls dont get smaller when i eventually start hrt
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>>4025747
You should probably just 41% yourself now, fast track this spiral you're going down.
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>>4025748
if im gonna kill myself anyways, i might aswell not start hrt and just try to live out the rest of my twink years first
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Stop talking about suicide and HRT, god damn it.
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>>4025712
Traps are better when they act boyish and aren't just brazen Flanderizations. Otori-tan is just a faggot.
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The girlier, kawaiiuwu and gayer the trap the better.
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>>4025748
>black pill everyone into think the moment they touched one pill they’ve lost the right to call themselves male
Do you see the irony?
>>4025747
That doesn’t happen with dick exercise and ball size doesn’t seem all that important
>>4025836
Massage his microtits
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>>4026076
That's quite a leap from what I said. You're putting words in my mouth, tranny.
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>>4026089
Stop replying to get holy shit
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i made this thread for you
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>>4026089
Not one you basedboy
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This is how a trap should look
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>>4027000
That’s a kid, which is weird, really weird.
It’s much better, and cooler if it’s just an offshoot of bishounen/twink aesthetics
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>>4027028
What a stupid normalfag you are first off, and second, Akira is in middle school, you dumb retard.
And third, I am talking about body type. That is exactly how a trap should look. Having actually boyish body.
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>>4027000
I don't really mind how most traps look. I think puffy nipples is the only design choice I actively dislike.
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>>4027161
Instead, you like no nipples lol
Puffy nipples are the best, it's not a female exclusive feature. Love Tsukushi's shotas, specially Marulk because trap of course.
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>>4027165
>it's not a female exclusive feature
It should be.
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>>4027072
Lolicon/shotacon website
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>>4027035
That’s pretty weird. Weird enough that femboy degenerates who are consenting adults are normal by comparison
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>>4027166
I like how they increasingly show up in adult femboy characters who explicitly say they’re men but ofc have done shady stuff to avoid twink death
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>>4026076
>ball size doesn’t seem all that important
I know its not important to most people, but i see as easily one of the most attractive features of the male body. If my balls shrunk, I would hate my body much more
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>>4025631
I have to admit that I know next to nothing about this topic, but wouldn't it make more sense to take anti-androgens than estrogen? You know, to retain youth without growing boobs.
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>The male twin looks better than the female twin
Every single time.
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Shut up about HRT already. If you have to use HRT, you aren't even a femboy. And you never will.
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TTD TCD TND TKD
>>4028404
agreed, this is the gayest thread on /cm/
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>>4028404
Based
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>>4028405
>TCD
What exactly does that stand for? Total Chinese Death?
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>>4028408
close, total commie death
I wish a nihao to all my chinese femboys
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>>4028404
Obviously, if you’ve already hit twink death it’s useless and you’ll just fuck up worse. Aborting the twink death mechanism is only useful if you aren’t dead.

If have a baby face and a svelte frame then not hitting twink death is such a benefit that price be damned.
> most "femboys" are purely in it to coom and can't understand that so womp womp
TikTok and Reddit femboys are almost universally not on hrt and they’ve already twink deathed into numale status so they shouldn’t ever get on it.
It’s pretty much only 4chan femboys who are good at cheating twink death.
>>4028355
It never makes someone a femboy but there are few other ways for someone with a neotenous face to keep it.
Males are fucked. Twink death and the baseditis that causes it is truly the undead curse.
Idk why modern men are all turning into gaping mouth balding gurgling sissies but they are and they scare the hell out of me.
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>>4028534
>why modern men are all turning into gaping mouth balding gurgling sissies
there's something in the water, don't drink it
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>>4028569
Masculinity is vilified now.
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>>4028570
in western hemisphere, sure
koreans are pushing back on feminist bullshit
china, its a warzone of fat uncles trying to find wives
I think this whole simp culture looksmaxxing culture whatever is fake masculinity anyways
like having a relationship with a woman is masculine now?
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>>4028573
Gender politics haas driving everything crazy. People just need to learn to be comfortable as themselves damn it.
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You will never be anime. You will never be attractive. You will forever be 3DPD. Now get out of here, faggots.
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>>4028570
More like male ‘strength’. Pop culture and mores suppressed the ‘competent’ man archetype so all modern men are portrayed as simps, wimps or machos (one dimensional supporting characters). 20th century men used to be doctors who are also action heroes, now only women are allowed that.

Asian characters are cool since you have the absolutely insane by western standards combination of strong and smart male characters (something the west reserves for strong female leads) but they also often look very androgynous.
Bishounen (good trap characters fall into this category) are basically the platonic polar opposite of the gaping mouthed, balding round weak basedjak.
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>>4027697
Faggot
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>>4028778
I think you really hit the nail on its head
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>>4027697
So why is it then?
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>>4028858
I find it funny how his outfit from his straightest song is also his sluttiest, fruitest non-crossdressing one.
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>>4028573
> Koreans are pushing back on feminist bullshit
Korean male aesthetic standards are still so feminine that K-pop guys get feminizing face bone shaves that are usually just a troonoid practice.
If both trends continue will it eventually end in twink warrior race? Based?
> looksmaxxing culture
It’s kind of cool how the ‘don’t rot’ mentality from twinks has spread to other men.
Don’t care for the politics but you have to admit they’re the only ones trying to go against the grain that men have to be fat, ugly and stupid.
Rejection of male decline.
>>4029024
I wanted to know why it’s so visceral. A lot is just fear of rot and the way they’re aging poorly but also being men devolved to be fat, useless and at the mercy of others. It’s worse because western pop culture says this is the only role for you if you’re born male.

The men of yore seem like a better strain to be. Even in looks, a lot of the men in Versailles portraits, or before that medieval are surprisingly androgynous/twinkish despite being very competent soldiers and or scholars so maybe the bald, bearded man baby is a modern creature and ‘strong female lead’ is actually an archetype drawn from men.
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>>4029082
>I wanted to know why it’s so visceral
I have my theory that civilization has allowed men to be lazy. We can be weak now and not die, so of course we all take this easier path.
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>>4029083
I worded that poorly, of course it's not MY theory, it's just the one I subscribe to. There's also the matter of feminism further spaying masculinity, that and this new wave of gender politics. Masculinity on the whole, is the weakest it's ever been.
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>>4029084
*neutering, not spaying. I thought the terms were synonymous, but that kind of fucks up metaphor.
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>>4029083
Schizo idea but since power was idealized in men and some evil powerful men caused harm (good men stopped them) maybe society decided to expunge that. Tell males they’re stupid, ugly, will never amount to anything and only women can handle the world. Also sort of ‘offsetting’ discrimination women suffered in the past by doing the same to males who had no part in it.
This is why most western men in media are worthless and it trickled down to real men and now everyone is panicking over why that happened when systemic bias against them caused it.
Devolve a people at your own peril.

As a side, read a news article by a basedjak who was gushing over how they’re getting rid of Link and that’s a good thing because it makes room. For all they scream about china and a femboy ban it’s the west taking them out of the picture and telling anyone born male they can only be a joke. You are problematic if you are not one of the flavors of basedjak.
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>>4029084
Weaker masculinity is a good thing. All men should be feminine. Masculinity encourages bullying, violence, domination, war, rape, etc. We need to make being a femboy the norm.
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>>4029176
I think it's a bucket of rent seeking crabs who grew up bored to death and have now forgotten how to reproduce like the mouse utopia etc. actually
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>>4029195
Fuck off
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>>4029198
>mouse utopia
If this is decline, then “the beautiful ones” are the best decline
>>4029195
I know you mean well but they won’t let us have that.
When society means “ feminine”. They mean beared, gaped mouthed, balding fat men who act like children. Check what the press means by feminine men. in newspeak that means nunumales/basedjak replete with the worst aspects of character and male aging.

This matters because a lot of the people who object to femboys, especially the unhinged thing femboys on HRT do go ‘why can’t you just be a feminine man’. Femboys are men ofc but they’re offended because you don’t want baldness, blubber and beards.
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why are traps seen as “lazy”? ive never understood how someone will discount a good design or an idea just because the fictional character has hips an inch or two wider than his shoulders
in general why is it expected to adhere so closely to reality when it comes to sex in fiction? drawing women with breasts so large that they’d surely be unable to stand doing back flips is fine. but traps are bad? ok
even in this thread you have people bringing reality into it… who cares!! you bastards
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>>4029051
Because male. There's a special beauty that only males can posses and I'm not sure how to explain it but it's there. And no, it's not their physical body being more "boyish", as this happens even with the male twin siblings drawn with a more feminine body.
And personality-wise, it's very common for male/female twins being written with the boy having a more reserved, shy, sweet and tender personality compared to the girl being chatty, bold and harsh or even a tomboy which honestly makes the boy infinitely more likeable, specially if they are traps, making them appear more girly which is great precisely because they are boys.
Bottom-line, the dick makes it cuter.
Anyway, we really need more male/male trap twins in general, they're so unfairly rare.
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>>4029329
Yeah I agree. I also think it’s due to it being impossible for men that feminine to exist. It’s sort of like how reverse traps are often a hit with women. The gap between appearance and fact is appealing.
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>>4029329
Wow you're so well spoken
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>>4028851
It is genuinely cool how half the men in this game look like women… and unlike western media that would reduce them to punchlines or 0 dimensional pander they’re all rounded characters who happen to be dangerously competent. They’re everything from spies to adventurer scientists to military leaders.
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>>4027599
The cat twins from Fontaine are infinitely better and the male twin is an unnaturally twinky adult man who canonically dresses as a cat girl for his job and is basically a KGB agent who lies and seduces everyone.
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>>4029361
They don’t look like women though? Only Venti sort of does. They are just androgynous shota types
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>>4029372
I think Xingqiu, Freminet, Dahlia, Heizou and Tighnari apart of Venti sort of do too. But yes the rest of the younger boys are just androgynous at most. I wouldn't really call any a shota though. Shota would be if they ever added a small body type for males like the loli ones. Scratch that they should just add another "loli" and call it a boy.
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>>4029384
Those lolis are straight up toddlers. Venti and Scara are 100% shotas however
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You are all dumb
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>>4029385
They are cute and funny goblins but I'd love the same for boys characters. Still waiting... forever I guess.
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>>4029387
How would you even distinguish the body types? The toddlers in Mihoyo are just boxy blobs. There’s nothing really female about them fast the clothing and expressions. I guess it would be like lalafel in XXIV? But even then, when a body is that tiny and toddlerish…
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>>4029372
You are deranged if you think they are shota like and not just androgynous
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>>4029310
Maybe in the sense that the vast majority of people like women, so to make a character look good, they just make them resemble one.
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>>4029388
...they are onaholes.
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>>4029389
Androgynous doesnt mean that they cant be shotas. Being androgynous doesnt discount having male features. That is direct greek deffinition based on how they portrayed Appolo. And Venti is literally inspired by Appolo.
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Or I guess to be specific, Venti is a mix of Appolo, Hermes, Dionysus, and Asclepios. But predominantly Appolo.
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>>4029393
What makes you think I am discounting they have male features? They are simply not shota.
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>>4029372
They’re “young men” (mostly, there are a few teenagers). The children thing is creepy.
Maybe males in that setting keep their neoteny/androgyny longer since everyone has K-pop looks, but they range from accomplished scientists to military officers, to spies in occupation.
>just androgynous
>don’t look like women though
They’re androgynous enough that you could canonically give any of them a makeover and have them successfully pull off a female pop star disguise. They make the dog do that and Lyney routinely switches places with his twin/dresses like a cat girl.

It’s the cooler type of “trap” character where the baseline look is bishounen but they’re androgynous enough to be mistaken for reverse traps.
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>>4029393
He’s much more Dionysus and anyways there are some Dionysus statues and depictions so feminine as to have the hrt femboy body type
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>>4029415
This is DoL fanart. The character with hair covering one eye is a female PC character and the guy in the knife is a boy. So, this is off topic! As is the ongoing discussion. Why does this thread have to be so shitty all the time, just post pictures holy shit
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>>4029434
Not really, it’s fan art of a different artist’s hrt femboy character put in the game. Also said character might be loosely inspired by scaramouche and is very much male to the point it’s a defining trait
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>>4029415
You are a dumb retard and know nothing about mythology.
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>>4029361
>It is genuinely cool how half the men in this game look like women… and unlike western media that would reduce them to punchlines or 0 dimensional pander they’re all rounded characters who happen to be dangerously competent. They’re everything from spies to adventurer scientists to military leaders
This is every other male anime protagonist, let's be real
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>>4029470
Retard https://publications.lycoming.edu/mid-atlantic-humanities-review/volume-1/8-hansen-androgynous-god.pdf
Also the sleeping hermaphrodite Roman statue is itself a copy of a Greek statue (romans plagiarize) believed to have been Dionysus
Apollo is too much logos and reason. Had Fontaine’s “archon” been male that would have been closer.
>>4029472
They’re usually whiny and not cool. Here it’s like a fictional society where they replace a large chunk of the “strong female leads” with feminine men.

Side note but I’m really liking the Five Star Stories MC
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>>4024114
thx 4 posting this, its jetfuel for my diet
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>>4029475
Also forgot but Dionysus, especially the femboy iteration goes around siding with slaves, outcasts and the downtrodden. That’s as close to a god of freedom as you’ll get.
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>>4029475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8bczl-TlM
He is supposedly known not only for looking so feminine that men hit on him but also one of his female retainers is officially tasked with impersonating and pretending to be him when he isn't around
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>>4029607
It’s a manga mostly
You can find in the usual sites https://mangadex.org/chapter/71c29b52-b8ba-4690-95a6-c518f9975de7/48

And its mecha in a space feudal like setting with shoujo like aesthetics. Sopp is actually a redesign of a villain from his other series.
Is pretty cool
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>>4029611
He's actually some sort of billion years old god-emperor
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>>4029414
fag dog
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>>4029665
Idk, sometimes think it would’ve been interesting if he wasn’t a god and just sopp
Know it was meant to turn a villain type into a hero but the disguise persona is more interesting
>>4029668
His name is Bepis Shiba
His in game battle medic skill is literally mleming (is in the name)
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>>4027373
Don't worry Anon, I understand. Ball size is super important, I hope your femboy ass has some real massive danglers below it.



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