Murdermedia - Radiostatic - Alastor x VoxHuman or Demon form is fine.Previous thread: >>4042914
New Tia merch. She’s already made over 4,000 sales and it’s increasing every hour. She deserves every penny that could have gone to Spindlehorse if Viv weren’t so stubborn.
Socks matching the heterochromia is a nice touch.
>>4054359I’m glad she was able to release them on her own because the quality would be shit if they were official. I have the Alastor standee from when she first put them up and it’s beautiful.
>>4054359>cord wrapped around Alastor's teeny tiny waist Peak erotic
>>4054359The amount of money spindlehorse could be making if they weren't retarded about ships is insane.>reeeeeeee we can't put any characters together that aren't involved romantically!! Not even if it's completely normal to put antagonists and protagonists together in a non-romantic context!>but also endless ra slop merch for some reasonMay Tia enjoy endless riches
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>>4054359>>4054362Producer era Whittman with the three piece charcoal suit and hair paired with the red bow tie is an underrated look. I mean I understand why the cult leader look with the velour sequin shark tail suit is the most popular and the weatherman look is considered the cutest…but until Tia no fan artist gave love to the charcoal three piece. Bless her
>>4054359>almost 5000 sales in less than two months>minimum price for each sale is $15 USDViv is fucking idiot.
>>4054578>selling merch of Alastor and Vox together at its most profitable and after a season that featured them heavily? B-but that conflicts with my OTPs, we can't have that!>a thousand more Hot Topic RA items must be made instead!!It's just comical at this point. Is it Viv's fault or Amazon's?
>>4054578Somebody in the American marketing team underestimated the power of fujo bucks. Tsk tsk
I fucking love CRT Vincent being possessive of Alastor
>>4054359I'm scared of getting any merch for these two because I just know future seasons will absolutely shit on this pairing and make it unpalatable, but MM basically being an AU ship makes it a bit more tempting...>>4054360They're so cute!
>>4054703Fuck canon. If Viv didn’t want us to ship RS then she shouldn’t have made a toxic unrequited crush gay disaster story the focus of a whole season. I shall live in my fujoshi delusions and shell out a hundred bucks for those beautiful Tia standees after I pay my rent next month, and nary a soul shall stop me, not even the creator.
>>4054359>>4054360>>4054361>>4054362>sales were 600+ when it was closed>sales are about to break 5300+ with 5 days leftholy SHITI'm actually stunnedThe best sellers aren't even the keychains, it's the 40-50 buck standeesTia is making BANK
>>4055026Yeah she’s earned over six figures in a month alone which is pretty insane for a fan artist. The truth is she had a lot of cards in her favor for this to happen.>Spindlehorse releases zero merch of Alastor and Vox together after the season where they interacted the most>Amazon’s new merch policy means this may be the last time to get merchandise from fan artists who worked for Spindlehorse>Tia’s art is the closest to official radiostatic art there will beIt’s these three combined all coming together at once.
>>4055026>>4055046It’s absolutely deserved. I think I’ll get a few more pieces, and probably subscribe to her Patreon too when I get paid. I’d rather support the artists directly, as the official merch is pretty meh these days.
>>4054828It's not so much that I need RS to become canon, I have no such delusions and would hate that happening. The worry is future seasons going out of its way to shit on it. Viv is prone to going "erm ackshually that thing you're making a big deal of meant nothing xD" when she sees fans interpreting things "wrong"That said, I caved and got the Sparksduo keychain. They're just too cute
>rs in top 10 ships on AO3I'm so proud.
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>more rs merch from Japan
>>4055840Aaaaand Hot Topic put out a Radioapple shirt with cute designs. It never fucking ends.
TIA’S SHOP IS CLOSED! Did you get your RS merch order in??
>>4055912>closed at 7,371 items sold in a weekI'm so happy for Tia
>>4055858Does the radioapple merch even sell well? I’m not asking this sarcastically I am genuinely curious because I know nothing about the stats on it. I know the rs merch sells based on actual numbers I see from retailers online but I have no clue when it comes to ra.
>>4056018It does or at least didThe popularity has definitely diminished somewhat after S2I don't want to give money to amazon or viv so honestly I hope they continue to ignore and not capitalize on the popularity of RS
>>4055858I don't really touch the fandom outside of these threads I don't understand how RadioApple is a thing that gets lots of merch when Vox's entire thing is wanting to hatefuck AlastorDoes Viv like not watch her own show or anything
>>4056083I think it's entirely because they were the most popular characters and ship in season 1.
>>4055912I wound up getting some sparksduo merch from her, I simply cannot resist the pull
New Tia art!
>>4056869>Adding this to her drawingsAmazon and Viv can both get fucked.
>>4056921It’s because she doesn’t think they would in her own AU. Fuck both of them still, but ehh.
>>4056921>Viv liked a tweet essentially saying that being annoyed by the constant RA merch is ridiculous and you should be more mad/proactive towards senators for human rights violations At this point just release season 3 and all the canon RA slop that will transpire in it, this constant shit Viv keeps pulling is tiring
>>4056988>radiostatic fans being blamed for the hot topic description change even though it was an adamsapple shipper who organized the email thingPersonally I wouldn’t email hot topic over a retarded shirt because that’s some serious loser shit but I do think if Spindle is going to claim that two characters are never shown together on merchandise because ‘they only do merch of ships that become fanon’ it’s hypocritical of them.
>>4057226Seeing angry RA shippers put all the blame on RS shippers for this even after the adamsapple shipper came forward about causing this is so annoying. They preach peace and love but then take any opportunity to snipe the "enemy"
>>4057357They changed the description and now a bunch of RA fans on twitter are being pissy about it. Huskerdust had an entire print changed but radioapples are used to Viv’s favoritism and the “no non cannon ship merch” rule not applying to them I guess.
>>4056988I'm constantly flip flopping in liking Radiostatic, but then I see retarded opinions from Vox stans proclaiming that Alastor is totally going to pine for Vox next season and essentially exist as a prop to glorify Vox and it makes me want Radioapple to happen out of spite. But then I see Radioapple art where huge hunk Alastor is only there to fuck precious little uke Lucifer and I start hating that ship all over again.As a deerfag, this fandom is a fucking nightmare, both his ships treat him like a prop at most.
>>4057357>even after the adamsapple shipper came forward about causing thisWait, source? Funny if true because adamsapple is deader than dead.
Nevermind, found it. It was Spo0kyBoiTV on Twitter, known Adamsapple turbo retard. Seems they've moved on from shitting on Guitarspear to targeting Radioapple? If it's any consolation they had a meltdown of Biblical proportions when Adam was confirmed straight. Sorry that your people got caught in the crossfire. With love from Hazbin /co/
>>4057649I think for me it’s the fact that mutual radiostatic will never ever happen in a million years that makes it easier for me to ignore the retarded people you’re referring to. For them I already know they’re going to get btfo so they don’t really bother me that much. It’s the fact that radioapple could possibly become canon and in a way that makes Lucifer the woobie uke type because Viv sees him as a victim that makes it harder for me to stomach. I get why you would be frustrated with the retards who push Vox pining for Al but I guess the impossibility of it happening makes it not bother me as much unlike with ra.
>>4057701>I get why you would be frustrated with the retards who push Vox pining for AlI don't have any frustration with that, that's literally canon. It's the other way around that is irritating.
>>4057666>Sorry that your people got caught in the crossfire. With love from Hazbin /co/Thank you, satan!>>4057701That's how I look at it too desu
>there was a big event in China where people celebrated RSIt's so cute how beloved this ship is in Asia. I believe it's one of the most active tags on Lofter.
>>4057866Someone in the last thread caught the essence of RadioStatic - it’s close to the Sempai-Kouhai relationship, or the Idol-Sasaeng relationship. Theres even the doomed friendship angle. These are very popular tropes in east Asia. It also doesn’t help that Vox and Alastor are extremely charismatic with voices like brown butter. RS was made in a lab to be Fujo meth.
>>4057866>the coke and pepsi cans that is so cute kek
sorry the quality was shit
>>4058712Literally was about to download this and post it, thanks for beating me to it.>people on twitter keep telling uploaders to take it down because it's disrespectful I don't get why this is an issue?
>>4058731Can only guess they either consider it a repost which would be retarded or that it's from her pateron
>Japan put Alastor between the two Vox plushies Whenever they’re given freedom they always revert to radiostatic. On a semi related note I read that Hot Topic gets to chose what merch they produce as long as Spindlehorse okays it and if that’s true then I think someone on the Hot Topic merch team is definitely a radioapple fujo given the hoodie, backpack, and now shirt design with description.
>>4059229>Whenever they’re given freedom they always revert to radiostaticBased Japan giving the people what they want
>>4059229Imagine putting merch together of the 2 characters that interacted the most in the last season of a tv show...Crazy...
>>4059361>what? Don't be silly, we're still in 2024 and "Hell's Greatest Dad" is all the rage, we need MORE merch of two characters who shared 5 lines together!It's always funny to me when I see Radioapple shippers admit that it's currently "Potential Man: The Ship" and will develop down the line, while still being confused as to why people are put off by it being the most popular ship that gets all the merch.
>>4059349I wish the Japanese team was in charge of the show at this point.
So beautiful to see korean, chinese, and japanese fujos all work together to find new ways for me to love RS
>RA shippers posting in the radiostatic tag directly accusing them of being the one to contact hot topic when it wasn’t even rs shippers that wrote emailsThey’re seething about the shirt description change still.
>>4060053>>4060054Their body size difference makes me insane. Far superior to height difference imo>>4060257Fucking still? It's been weeks, but I guess anything to make themselves seem like sympathetic oppressed victims
>Viv liking posts saying that Vox sexually assaulting Alastor is serious Well then maybe you should have treated the scene as serious and not made it a one off gag you dumb fucking bitch.
>>4060464She's coped with Angel recently by saying his abuse is also very serious and she put a lot herself into him. Like sure viv, the gag reel of his abuse was definitely very serious.
>>4060464>>4060499It's hard to defend Viv when she gets this weird want of approval that her shows are actually 'important' and not just entertainment No one would have this confusion of what to take seriously and what not to take seriously if she would just admit scenes were done for comedy or drama and not some stance/advocacy for rape victims or better yet just accept the criticism and move on
>>4060513>if she would just admit scenes were done for comedy or dramaIn Raphielle's case, she includes all Angel rape scenes purely so she can goon. I remember when Viv would argue with people being critical of including a rape fetishist as a storyboarder by insisting Raph was a rape victim until Raph admitted she's never even been SA'd lol
>>4060499>>4060513Btw I’m not saying Al didn’t get SAed. I’m saying the scene was played for comedy because they showed it as a fucking cuck chair gag and Viv even liked comments about it being a cuck chair. She doesn’t seem to realize if you want people to take your depiction seriously you can’t also use it for funny moments, it doesn’t work that way. Same with the Angel yaoi paddle bit.>>4060527 Angel’s angst is Raph’s gooner shit. The angel getting smacked compilation was Viv and her team being retarded not realizing that playing it for laughs makes it hard for the viewer to take his trauma seriously.
>>4060554There are (unsurprisingly) SA victims who watch Hazbin and are sensitive to both Al and Angel's SA. Having traumatic life experiences played off as jokes or fetishization will turn people off to the show. Viv should expect that and stand by her guns. Just say you make rape jokes and goonerbait. It's not that deep. Her acting like this show has deeper meaning is going to seem insulting to irl victims and it causes rifts between fans who identify with it and fans who say lol cuck chair/yaoi paddle. We've seen that in other threads.
>ra shippers on twitter now saying that if you drop the show because radioapple happened you never really liked it and are a fake fanThey are the most spoiled motherfuckers. It’s not enough that they’re the creators favorite ship and get pandered to the most out of anyone, they demand that fans who don’t like the ship continue watching or it’s a moral failing. I never wanted mutual radiostatic canon I only wanted radio silence with Alastor single in the end.
Anyone else reading this comic?>>4060790I am really starting to hate RA fans ngl. Also based radiosilence enjoyer. Just be happy we got season 2.
>>4061188Love seeing him cry.
>>4061705Love them getting 'excited' post kill. Blood pumping and adrenaline rushing...
Not to bring up an old topic but apparently Sam Haft said that when he wrote Don’t You Forget (Reprise) he didn’t have the intention that Vox SAed Alastor at all and doesn’t think he did. This is why the themes in the show aren’t taken seriously because even the crew isn’t on the same page.
>>4061724I do think the fandom is annoying with how hard it woobifies and glosses over how awful Vox is, but that video essay really reached to weird degrees by including the lyrics as an example of Vox raping Alastor
>>4061747It’s not so much as I don’t think Vox is as evil and morally bankrupt as Valentino, it’s more that I think Viv is really bad at getting it across because she keeps wanting to use their worst moments for comedy. It’s like if the scene from Shawshank had a bunch of funny one liners in it.
>>4061760Oh, I didn't mean to imply that's what you were saying, just pointing out how that one infamous video essay that tried to point to the lyrics of "Don't You Forget (Reprise)" as evidence that Vox would've raped Alastor, or metaphorically did rape him, reached too far
>>4061761NTA but from what I recall I didn't get that the essay was saying Vox would have raped Alastor, it was more about the threat of rape, which is also a form of SA. It's the same reason flashers are charged with sex crimes. It's about the threat rather than the act. The lyrics are very sexually charged, so it's not a reach to call it harassment. As far as Sam is concerned, yeah. Viv needs to be very careful about tone going forward.
>>4061747>>4061761>>4061781I think a lot of the reason why so many people seem hesitant to call it SA even though it is is because the current state of fandoms is rife with people using pseudo activism to bully people out of enjoying ships. Just today Lemoncat posted something about how an English speaking friend of hers asked questions to Borle about radiostatic and in her comments she had an Alastor yume with over 1k followers whose friendly with ra shippers posting “did we all just forget Vox assaulted Alastor?” as if she’s a bad person for being interested in radiostatic at all. What lemoncat posted had nothing to do with the scene or defending Vox the person was just trying to imply she’s morally bad for enjoying the ship at all. I really wish it would just be “yeah Vox SAed Alastor and he’s as shitty as Valentino” and that was the end of it but people who don’t like the ship are using it as a way to try to bully artists, especially eastern artists, out of drawing the ship at all.
>>4061802>Lemoncatthat poor chinese artist she's been in the fandom for so long toosince the pilot if I remember correctly >really wish it would just be “yeah Vox SAed Alastor and he’s as shitty as Valentino” Vox beats the shit out of Angel, calls him a whore, mind rapes him and yet the only thing anyone wants to talk about is how he made Alastor watchThe problem also is alot of Alastor yumes (no offense to any here) get too attached to Alastor and feel like he should care alot about being SA'd but Alastor is in fact a man (an old man too) and probably forgot it even happened the second Val stepped out of the room or you know, already knew Vox would try something like that since this was part of his plan and lost even more respect for Vox after realizing he was still sentimentally They want Alastor to be deeply affected by it, scarred for life, unironically have a realistic panic attack over it like he's a normal person
>>4061828>the SA doesn't matter because he's a man and men get over thingsAnon don't say this stuff anywhere else.
>>4061832What I mean is men and women are different in how things affect themTo me I don't think Alastor thought Vox would try anything but maybe if Val stayed/Vox listened to Val he might've, the danger or threat leaving the room eases men while with women it seems like the danger doesn't ever leave their mind
>>4061833You're entitled to your interpretation, but I'm just saying that a lot of people are sensitive to downplaying SA amongst men. So I wouldn't say these things in other places where people might already be hostile to RA shippers. It sounds bad. No offense.
>>4061828>>4061833I don't even think it's necessarily a man thing, Alastor is just so prideful that I doubt he would ever acknowledge he was sexually assaulted because that would imply he was a victim of something. He would never allow that moment to even faze him.
>>4061835Nta but they may be referring to the fact that a lot of RA shippers and just general Alastor fans are teen girls and so they expect Alastor to behave how they would to SA, ignoring that they're socialized completely differently from how men are
>>4061828I don't think the yumes care about him being traumatized as much as they do people minimizing it and saying it wasn't SA or it wasn't that bad as compared to other characters. Which, eh, I do understand somewhat. It goes back to people wanting to minimize it because the ship is already seen as problematic and nobody wants to be bullied for liking a problematic ship so they downplay it. I can see where it's frustrating all around. I blame Viv and her inability to decide on tone.
>>4061802>even though it is is because the current state of fandoms is rife with people using pseudo activism to bully people out of enjoying shipsYeah, this. Can't enjoy complicated dynamics in fiction anymore, you may only like boring wholesome chungus ships that do not challenge you in any way like radioapple.>but people who don’t like the ship are using it as a way to try to bully artists, especially eastern artists, out of drawing the ship at allIt's so tiresome. This is a series where a majority of the characters are evil or have done fucked up things, yet the fanbase treats it like Steven Universe or something.
>>4061837I meant RS shippers rather than RA. Typing RS and SA so many times makes my dyslexia fire up and it was bound to happen, but you have a valid point. That said, men still do have trauma they just express it differently, so downplaying it outside of these spaces should be approached with caution.
>>4061840Well yeah, we've seen how Alastor handles trauma and it's by pulling his hair out in frustration and letting it broil inside. But it's worth noting that he did this when he lost to Adam and was demeaned by Rose, not with anything to do with Vox who he saw as a means to an end
>>4061841Again anon, you're entitled to your opinion, I'm not arguing I'm just saying not to debate this stuff in other threads or fandom spaces. As I stated earlier it's the sort of thing that makes people bristle at MM and RS shippers and I like Alastor yumes not hating us.
>>4061802>and in her comments she had an Alastor yume with over 1k followers whose friendly with ra shippers posting “did we all just forget Vox assaulted Alastor?”That fucking cunt specifically sought that post out and when people pointed out she's a hypocrite for writing rape fic featuring Alastor and brought up something totally unrelated to a post about RS, they screenshotted Lemoncat's response (who is not a native English speaker) and grandstanded to their followers about how evil RS shippers are. RA shippers are genuine bullies.
>>4061843>and I like Alastor yumes not hating usAnon is most likely talking about the ones on twitter like the one who is currently harassing Lemoncat. That should go without saying.>>4061844>"I blocked it. It's still everywhere. I can't just isolate myself from the fandom.And I'm sick from people acting like it's okay and they are just cool toxic pair. I have nothing against toxic dynamics and dark romance, but not when it gets flattened and glossed over.">"I don't interact in rs posts usually. Today it just broke the dam."Mind you this is in response to Lemoncat simply posting quotes from Christian Borle. Genuine mental illness that they lost their mind over such an innocuous post.
>>4061847>Anon is most likely talking about the ones on twitterAs am I, which is why I'm advising Anon not to debate that outside of this thread. Don't give them ammunition.
>>4061849>which is why I'm advising Anon not to debate that outside of this threadI'm not following what you mean exactly, do you mean on /hhg/?
>>4061850>/hhg/ No, I meant if people crosspost on /deer/ or are active on Twitter/Reddit/Insta whatever. I doubt there's any Alastor yumes left on /hhg/. I still wouldn't kick the hornet's nest though, I don't want another scat spammer to show up when someone posts RS lewds.
>>4061835Yeah I see what you mean, I don't really post on social media anymore so you don't have to worry >>4061836I agree completely but I still feel like it does have to do with him being a man I really hate how people act like Alastor and Vox are written like women and then get confused when they don't act like women emotionallyJust a pet peeve of mine
>>4061855>implying RS shippers were at fault for scat spammer existingScat spammer did that shit because they were an insane Staticmoth shipper, it had nothing to do with RS shippers' behavior "warranting" it. That's why scat spammer was so notoriously awful, even just posting an image of RS caused them to flip out and other SM shippers would join in with "lmao rs will never be canon, Vox doesn't give a shit about Alastor" "this kills the radioshatic *posts pic of Vox making out with Val*", etc. The shitty behavior was entirely on local SM shippers being petty insecure bitches
>>4061855>>4061869Just to clarify, I know what you're getting at as developing any bad blood between other fanbases like /deer/ is not something any of us want, but definitely need to also clarify that SS was a uniquely awful shitposter that came about unprovoked
>>4061869>it had nothing to do with RS shippers' behavior "warranting" itDidn't say it did? /hhg/ has some severely maladjusted people and it's best not to stir the pot because they can go off and do insane stuff like that. I don't know what arguing with that lot will accomplish outside of them potentially acting hostile for whatever asinine reason they deem worthy. It's a waste of time.
>>4061870It's okay Anon, I was more so using them as an example of how stupid it can get over there. Which is why I said I think it's a waste of time rationalizing with them. >>4061872 I think we're all on the same page about stuff.
>>4061855>>4061872I have no intention of posting about it elsewhere. I only brought it up as the reason why there are some younger RS shippers who get up in arms about the scene being called SA (which it is) is because it’s used for fuel to try and harass them out of shipping it like the example. I hardly think one Alastor yume whose besties with the person who made the retarded “RA is canon” doc represents Alastor times as a whole.
