I just think they're neat. Shame that with MacKay's book sticking to shitty Schism era characters, Simone's having horrid OCs and Ewing's ALSO having new characters that are somehow more forgettable than the Generation Hope cast there's no place for this generation. Maybe that's a good thing though since it's not like there's much in the way of writing talent anyway.Anyway favorite and least favorite characters? Lesser characters you'd like to see more of? Thoughts on the various runs?
why does everyone look so uninterested
>>153784864Well if NYX hadn't failed so badly then maybe there would be an argument that Academy X fans buy booksPlus these days they don't even have room for most of Generation X or the New Mutants
>>153784864the last good nu-generation of muties and they killed off, depowered, and waste them all
>>153785039>Well if NYX hadn't failed so badly then maybe there would be an argument that Academy X fans buy booksThe Academy X fans bought the book while it was running. NM and NXM was a pretty consistent 35kish seller after whatever sales bumps gimmicks they'd try (relaunch, change writers, crossovers). It sold a hell of a lot more than something like Runaways which was consistently around 19,000 (going by Comichron charts) so the characters had a fairly decent, consistent and loyal fan following.NYX though was close to 20 years since House of M and a lot of the characters hadn't been used much since the series ended in 2008. That's an entire generation unfamiliar with the characters and a long time for people to just leave, especially given how generally shitty the characters had been treated. Also the book sucked. It was a garbage throwback to the fucking Alonso era mid-2010s style of book that nobody wanted and i was mostly just a Kamala shill book which nobody wanted.
>>153785393>NYX though was close to 20 years since House of Mfucking kill me
>>153785068>and they killed off, depowered, and waste them allI'm doing a thing where I want to storytime a lot of Marvel's 2000s era teen/young heroes books which includes New Mutants/New X-Men. This means re-reading them as I'm grabbing them too and having just about finished with NXM I can say that I dislike the Yost & Kyle run more than I did at the time. Back then it was a more emotinoal dislike over what they did and the way DeFilippis and Weir were replaced.But re-reading it with hindsight I still dislike the slaughter and grimness but more than that I'm struck by how nonsensical and unnatural a lot of the writing is. Like a lot of the events happen because they have to happen for the story to happen regardless of how much it requires the plot to bend itself into knots or characters to act like complete morons or for the villains to suddenly be hyper-competent. Laurie is about as classic a fridging as you can get. Sofia's unceremoniously written out so Julian can immediately be shipped with X-23. Emma is written like a retarded schizophrenic so X-23 can look like even more a poor widdle fluffball needing a hug because Emma is so mean to her and Julian just suddenly goes from hating her to liking her romantically because... uh, he just does. Why do the Purifiers having missiles and weapons that can do shit like stab Emma in her diamond form? The just do because, uh, Nimrod visions or something. Nimrod loses a lot as the big bad in Cuckoa when he got taken out by a bunch of kids which shouldn't have happened but it had to happen because how else are they going to be "real" X-Men? The plot clearly says they need that.The only thing the Kyle/Yost run has over the original writers is better/more consistent art.
>>153785654NXM was more or less K&Y's test run for messiah complex and a couple other things.As for Laurie and Sofia, those are orders from Quesada. All the teens' deaths/depowering were preordained. K&Y more or less choose the characters with the best visual profiles and worked from there (i.e. having wings is more or less what saved pixie's ass from the chopping block)The edge is par for the course for late 90s comics, energy that x-men was still trying to shake. remember that just a few years ago the previous teen book, Gen X, had this absolute meme panel happen. >Emma is written like a retarded schizophrenic so X-23 can look like even more a poor widdle fluffball needing a hug because Emma is so meaneeeh emma buckling under pressure and not getting kids doesn't feel too weird to me. did similar stunts in the claremont era.>to her and Julian just suddenly goes from hating her to liking her romantically because... uh, he just does.lel yeah but i think the idea behind that is driving home the point that the kids weren't going through anything even remotely normal, even for the x-men. gutter humor and weird life decisions were something they all had in common. go count how many times they joke they were all gonna die
>>153786214That's another problem. It seems less like a book about the kids and more like a book intended to set up an idea for a larger X-Men story they had and it just happened to be NXM they were writing.I think the House of M story showed that DeFilippis and Weir could have done a darker story pretty well too. It's a shame that that's where their run ends barring the Yearbook Special but they made the most of it and there was a lot of cool usages of characters' powers given that they didn't need to worry about the consequence. Laurie especially as the sadistic manipulative bitch but Tag with her father and Illyana doing things like using portals to teleport bullets and shit.
>>153785447It's longer now from the introduction of the Academy X kids to now than from Marvel Graphic Novel #4 to New Mutants vol. 2 #1.
>>153789456AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
>>153784864ah my kids deserved so much better
>>153784864>MacKay's book sticking to shitty Schism era characterswut?
>>153785393the only characters in nyx who haven't been continuously appearing in books are hellion and kiden nixon.
>>153790046he means the original cast which is more or less catiana + black dude and lil bro
>>153789880You haven't noticed that the younger characters on his team are all ones who were prominent mostly during/around Schism? It's part of why I've said Brevoort is trying to do a throwback to that period not the '90s like others insist.
>>153790094No I'm not. NYX was the From the Ashes book by Kelly and Lanzing that was basically Kamala, X-23 and the usual NXM kids (mainly Julian, David and Victor). The book sucked, felt like a lost Alonso era book and was cancelled fairly quickly. It used the NYX name but the only character from it was Kiden. No mention at all of the other characters.
I don't accept the argument, prodigy gets shoved into everything. Surge was just in x-force. Elixir has done a lot of shit since then. X-23 is everywhere. Anole is used basically non-stop eventhough he's shit. Jay Guthrie and Wallflower are who cares. Hellion is back but he sucked anyway.Rockslide got fucked over and everyone is mad about it and Mercury should be used more, valid.
>>153790237Idie is from gen hope and quire is from new x-men, so no? Quire was in Jason Aaron's crap I guess if that's whaty you mean but it his x books were garbage.
>>153790349Idie, Quire and Glob were all at their most prominent during Schism. Glob basically drops off after Riot, Quire was dead and Idie's the entire reason Schism happened.
>>153790319>Jay Guthrie and Wallflower are who cares.Laurie was basically the centerpiece of the book under the original writers and was my favorite me.
>>153784864I mean, do you really think these writers would do them any favors anyway?>Anyway favorite and least favorite characters? Lesser characters you'd like to see more of? Thoughts on the various runs?I thought Julian becomes a lot more sympathetic over time, and X-23 becomes more interesting the more she distances from just "Wolverine clone". Like, the way she dealt with Lady Deathstrike in Messiah Complex was cool. I was definitely gonna skip on X-Force because it just looked like more 2000s edgy garbage, but the callbacks to the Claremont era got me into it, and it was well worth the ride. Also I liked the early X-23 run that had Jubilee and Gambit around.>>153785654I'm lucky I only got into the book well after the slaughter happened, it's a lot less infuriating. After they get that out of the way, they have a lot of fun with the cast that's left. Besides, the school being full was a leftover of a generally pretty bad era.I don't much care for whatever happens in the Cuckoa era whatsoever, at least them surviving Nimrod back then, let alone beating him (let's be fair, he was new anyway) gives them the right to go "Fuck you, we're X-Men".I think I'd attribute the Purifiers being so well prepared first to Bastion leading them with Sentinel/Nimrod lore, and then to the X-Men having gone public (again, a really really stupid time).
>>153790319Problem is that while they are used, they are not *used*. They haven't had continuity or agency of their own since NXM. They just exist to become the author's soapbox and/or diversity brownie points.>Anole sucksAnole is based and he was the only character that got to be internally consistent with his original portrayal. He should have been used more.Everyone else?>x-23ANAD's character assassination victim that now has two fanbases and they hate each other>prodigyemasculated by Gillen for twitter points then used as a front for soapbox activism since>JulianSabotaged as a character by Wu because he was in the way of her Jubilee yuribait then forgotten until NYX>Elixir has done a lot of shit since then.Elixir was kinda having a role in a x-force book but that plotline was dropped fast and hard and then became a krakoa mcguffin with no agency>SurgeUsed well for a single run, forgotten, then used again for a hot 2 issues until it turned out the writer was literally using the team as an excuse to go on a literal racist rant about black utopias>pixiecameo queen and nothing more>Dustbecame a krakoa mcguffin with no agency>Literally every nxm girl not surge, pixie or dust (Loa, mercury, etc)Retconned to be Diversity soapboxes for twitter pointsNobody tried to actually continue their stories, develop the generation or mix it with another. They have no relationships or agency of their own.X-Men Infinity comics and fucking GWENPOOL gave more love to these characters than every mainline that used them. IN NYX's defense it tried but they were was some creative conflict in the writers room and the book was basically a repainted kamala khan wank book.Ironically, blindfold was the only NXM that got to have an arc and finish it.
>>153790629there was no way she was going to stick around with her power set.
>>153790630>>153785654>I think I'd attribute the Purifiers being so well prepared first to Bastion leading them with Sentinel/Nimrod loreObscure autismo lore here but every anti mutant terror group is traditionally armed to the teeth. been a thing since The Right's powerarmor and Genosha's Magistrates
>>153790611POst schism, which is where watxm started. Which was a weird synergy mandate with the cartoon show iirc.
>>153790640>Problem is that while they are used, they are not *used*. They haven't had continuity or agency of their own since NXM.pfft you're asking for a lot anon since half maincast doesn't even get it. They introduce new characters and they either hit and move up the chain or they clear out for the next group of kids. That's how its always been.
>>153790903>pfft you're asking for a lot anon since half maincast doesn't even get it.And that's why Marvel is literally being purged and potentially turned into an IP farm as of last week.
>>153790640>Ironically, blindfold was the only NXM that got to have an arc and finish it.I'm a purist and don't consider her a NXM character as she was from Astonishing, never really interacted with them until Young X-Men and by that point anything anyone liked about the NM/NXM set up was gone. I don't really consider Armor or most of Morrison's characters part of that group either for similar reasons. They were technically of that generation but almost wholly seperate with only the surviving Cuckoos getting integrated with them. Young X-Men is a weird transitionary period, then it's the repeated failures of the Lights, the Schism era kids and I think they just gave up because I don't remember new ones either post-Schism or Cuckoa. It's only with From the Ashes we've gotten new characters and like all the post-NXM ones they suck especially Ewing's.
>>153791736We may argue that, but Blindfold got all her personality quirks in the NXM / first school era. Her character was "born" there.And under that logic neither is Dust part of the NXM and she's central to both Academy and NXM runs.Maybe I can recontextualize things a bit:There's some leeway to argue that the Austen to Utopia era was exceptionally tight at editor level (probably the most coordinated the x-office got since x-cutioners song in '91) . This means what whatever Uncanny did for a character would be instantly noted and represent in Adjectiveless or NXM or even minis and sidebooks.When you take the era as a whole its really hard to think of it as separate instances. Specially when Legacy V1 (the Rogue book) kind of brings all the kids introduced since morrison back on a single book dedicated to their arcs (before shipping them off to the glue factory known as "Wolverine & The X-Men")So while NXM has a limited unique cast, all the x-kids here belong together in a way. Which is also why everyone fucking hated WATXM it basically handwaved their entire, decade long social network and de aged literally all of them.
>>153791860>and de aged literally all of them.except idie who went from being like 12 to being late teens, banging quire and with tits bigger than her head
>>153791736They let Bendis make his new students. They were generally using a mix of kids from 2000 to 2008 or whatever for like 15-20 years though yeah because of the rights squabbling making them hostile to editorial allowing new characters. That let quire get a second shot and he seems to have wormed his way into perennial regular usage since he just fills a lot of roles that no else currently does.
>>153791860Dust was a central character in NXM under both writing teams. Blindfold was not and I don't think she or Armor ever even made cameo appearances in that book. Even Onyxx got a few cameos.
>>153790640>Elixir was kinda having a role in a x-force book but that plotline was dropped fast and hard and then became a krakoa mcguffin with no agency.I have to mention that I was reading the sequels to Wolverine's dead and Elixir appears there only to be robbed of his healing factor and probably KILLED, or that's what I think happened cause he is just left there an no one cared to react after a monster attacked him.>>Dust>became a krakoa mcguffin with no agencyWasn't she revealed to be the one who's gonna kill the last mutants because reasons?? Was that taken anywhere?
>>153792275If you have to ask the answer is "no." Much like how X-Factor during Cuckoa brought all the dead Academy X characters back to life, including Laurie, and that was it.
>>153785039Academy X was too woke-coded to get mainstream appeal. X-Men living like a bunch of bushwick/ridgewood degens and going to not-NYU?Prodigy still flamboyantly gay? No Surge or Elixir? Hellion a bad guy again?Ms. Marvel and X-23 eating up so much page space while being overexposed as shit?I loved the original era. This was ass.
>>153793898nyx was the only book that where the characters weren't treating krakoa like an awkward one night stand they were refusing the acknowledge, so it was good for that at least.
>>153793967>treating krakoa like an awkward one night standSounds like the best approach, though>>153792482>brought all the dead Academy X characters back to lifeWell that's SOMETHING, right?
>>153794738>Sounds like the best approach, thoughwell its the corner they wrote themselves into, most of the mutants should be radicalized as the fallout and they don't want that status quo to the point they pulled a poochie on xavier and magneto conveinently neutralized is in a wheelchair with the mcguffin virus and acting ooc.
I actually havent read an xmen comic since surge died
>>153784864>forgettable than the Generation HopeThat cant be possible; Transonic, Velocidad, and Primal are nowhere to be seen, I doubt they were even in Krakoa.Zero was in that dark x-men book with the Maddie and Havok.And Idie is in the main x-men because she sucked Quire cock during Aaron Wolverine & the x-men.At least New X-men had Anole and Julian in a main book recently, Prodigy is in X-men and Elixir was part of the 5 in Krakoa.Dust sometimes appears from time to time and I like her.
I hate quire
>>153790640Yeah because Blindfolk became Spurrier pet character
>>153795202I came here to say this, one of the reasons characters like Julian were taken off the board was that Quire already did the same thing as him but better, AND he had the baggage of being Morrison creating, who doesn't want to play with Morrison toys?
>>153795202I'm always baffled when they decide to use him in anything.Then again, haven't read X-Men in forever, so it checks out.
>>153790640>>Literally every nxm girl not surge, pixie or dust (Loa, mercury, etc)>Retconned to be Diversity soapboxes for twitter pointsI hate this so much. I think even the background kids from this era were cool, but they have been completely mishandled, shafted in favor of old new mutants and also the cavalcade of forgettable new mutants ever since.
>>153796212he's fine, people use him because most of the other secondary cast characters have personalities akin to drying paint.
>>153795017She came back in the last issue of that series.
>>153784864Noriko, Mercury, and DJ are the ones im most interested in. There should have been more spinoff books to get the other teams some shine.
>>153791860We should use NXM for morrison and Academy X for Weir/Defillipis. Gets less confusing.
>>153795299Laurie making him kill himself is one of the best parts of either NXM run. Shame it was an alternae reality.
>>153790237He also mentions schism in one of his first xmen interviews. Its clear they were gonna do cyclops vs rogue till xmen fandom sperged hard and even Brevoort realized it was a bad idea.
>>153796958I'd wish they tried to so something to mix all these younger mutants with the first new mutants and give them some sense of continuity, like making ther older new mutants lead teams of the younger ones, we kinda had some of that with the OP run but they forgot about that soon, no one seems to remember Dani Moonstar is legally Elixir's guardian.
>>153790640>the writer was literally using the team as an excuse to go on a literal racist rant about black utopias
>>153799830Good, even the low level of hostility they still try to force between the two teams is cringe every time they interact. Cyclops was also made to be an idiot in manhunt because someone had to take the wrong side of a conflict that shouldn't have existed.
>>153799861Its been 6 or so in universe years of "marvel time" since some of them were introduced. Then Krakoa time is weird on top of that since the galas date it 1 to 1, and having them spend just a year there wouldn't make any sense. They shouldn't even be young anymore.
>Dust was never CRUSADER'D by aryan christian menshameful
>>153800241Bishop's book
>>153800367It's even more screwed up if you go outside just the X-Men. Araña was explicitly 15 when she was introduced in 2004, the same age as Wallflower who was the youngest of the main Academy X charcters while a lot of the others were 16 or 17. In the Spider-Girl ongoing from 2010 she's now a college student but all the characters introduced around the same time as her or later haven't really aged more than like a year.>>153800433She was dating Jay though the intent of DeFilippis and Weir is that he'd convert to Islam for her rather than the other way around. Then it was a moot point when Kyle and Yost killed him.
>>153800667shameful displayhonoring the pedophile prophet worshipping religionwe should've gotten to see dust nervously and anxiously wearing a bikini clinging to him out of sheer embarrassment
>>153784864In the current year I guess it's kinda surprising that there was never an animated New Mutants, New X-Men, Generation X, Generation Hope, Young Avengers, Initiative, Avengers Academy or Champions adaption. Considering how long the Marvel brand has been one of Disney's big cash cows, I mean. They made I don't know how many cartoons about Spider-Man and the mainline Avengers lineup, but never really tried making a show about kid heroes. Feels like there's a niche there that Disney more or less ignored.
Elixir as Dani's adopted son should've been a recurring plot through the years. It's a weird relationship because he was basically an adult but needed a legal guardian and it gave her a bunch of responsibility over another human.
>>153800775Disney is allergic to money
>>153789505She seems to be basically immortal now so yay for Noriko?
>>153800667As of NYX I think most of the Academy X students (who didn't die on the bus) have all finally moved on to college ageThe last hold out was Anole who kept getting deaged by different writers and being forced to hang out with younger and younger characters. But he's a little mini-Hulk now and bartendingEven half of the Runaways have moved on to college age. Gert and Victor are still high school aged but thats because they were dead
>>153800866This is the perfect set up to put Surge into a cyborg body.It would be less lame than making her discount Ultimate Electro.
>>153790640I loved the books but every time their plotlines get followed up on writers have to deal with the fact that these characters are really fucked up by the shit they went through and most writers don't want to deal with it (also why they skip to focusing on people like Quire and Glob).Remember when Dust showed up in Champions because she was going to sandblast a mob of flatscans.
>>153800775Oh yeah and add the Runaways to that tally. There was the live action show but, same as the others, nothing for their library of animated content.
>>153800971>muslim performing a terrorist attack
>>153791989>hey were generally using a mix of kids from 2000 to 2008 or whatever for like 15-20 years though yeah because of the rights squabbling making them hostile to editorial allowing new characters.Aaeron did make 3-4 OCs iirc, unless I hallucinated broo, warbird and the rock pixie girl not being originals
>>153795096transonic cameos everywhere so there's that.
>>153801136There was Kid Gladiator, Warbird, Sprite, Sharkgirl and EyeboyAlso the Hellfire brats like the Frankenstein descendant or the girl who beat her pets to deathBroo was technically created in Astonishing X-Men just before WATXM, by Gage I think?
>>153801244Sharkgirl was the best one just because she loved her power. Could turn human whenever she wanted but chose to be a shark monster 24/7. I hope the writer of the last Dazzler comic screwing that up doesn't stick in her next appearance.
>>153800667hmm l looking at barometers sometimes they're drawing franklin like he's 14 or so like he "should" be on a 1 to 4 scale, sometimes he looks about 17. Val sometimes is looking 12 and sometimes she's got tits and looks like shes 15.
>>153801244>Kid GladiatorI liked him. There was potential in his friendship with Evan (who got shafted for fucking Apocalypse). Having two powerful guys, one who is a cocky little shit while the other is an aw shucks farmboy, bounce off each other is fun.
>>153801418Richards family doesn't count, they were all aged up to 16-17 during Reed's interdimensional road trip post-Secret Wars.
>>153801476well not Artie and Leech for some reason
>>153800866Maybe she'll get to actually see her brother now. Remember when she had an onee-chan instinct towards younger kids?
>>153801244The only one I am willing to defend is Shark-Girl because she is my waifu and she gave us the panel where Sauron wants to turn people into dinosaurs.
>>153800971>GlobBecause Glob is cute and has a nice design, that what carries him.Funny enough he has been the character who has gotten the most development. He went from a mutant supremacist in Morrison run to a bully in WatXM, to a hero in X-men gold and Spider-Man and the X-Men, then he started accepting himself more during an arc of Old Man Logan and Age of X and now he is part of the main xmen team.
>>153801749>she gave us the panel where Sauron wants to turn people into dinosaursAll the more reason to hate her.
>>153801869Shit taste desu baka
>>153801749>the panel where Sauron wants to turn people into dinosaursI was sure that was from Marvel Adventures or something like that
>DeFillipis and Weir get kicked off during a crossover>Yost and Kyle's run ends during a crossoverPottery?
>>153804076>Yost and Kyle's run ends during a crossoverK&Y more or less orchestrated the entire messiah trilogy by themselves
>>153804160The book still ended during a crossover and one where the actual title characters were barely featured in it. Also I hate that it means I'm going to have to storytime all of Messiah Complex when it gets to that point because of the structure.New X-Men effectively ended with #42-43.
>>153804400True by the duo kept giving al the nxm kids roles and character moments until they left with second coming. You'd miss out on a lot of things.
>>153786214>K&Y more or less choose the characters with the best visual profiles and worked from there (i.e. having wings is more or less what saved pixie's ass from the chopping block)Maybe in some instances but it's clear their motivation was a lot more based around power flashiness in a lot of respects. A lot of the characters that were depowered/killed had less flashy, combat oriented powers. Sofia is one of the exceptions but she got written out because of her being a roadblock for X-23/Julian which is shit because Surge's arc in the Yost/Kyle run would have made more sense with Sofia who was already co-leader of the New Mutants but had struggled with feeling like she was unfit for the role and was he emotional heart of the team.Also they kept David aroud as a human (I guess because he was black?) but wrote out Dryad who had a unique visual look and powers that would have worked fine in combat and could have probably evolved like some of tthe others' did.
>>153808355Protag power likely helped sofia and david
>>153808387Sofia got depowered and written out though. Also they kept Josh but then he spends most of their run moping in a room only coming out to act as a deus ex machina which had the effect of making him borderline unusable because they shot his power level through the roof.
>>153790735Her best scenario would have been a timeline where there was not M-Day and she learned to control her pheromones and start living a normal life.
>>153791873She really gained a respectable pair of tits.
>>153807298>until they left with second comingI get the timeline all wrong, but weren't Necrosha and/or Curse of the Mutants afterwards? They still got the kids to shine on those.
>>153809318messiah complex -> messiah war -> necrosha -> second comingcurse of the mutants was not them iirc, but then again everyone doing the mainlines was super coordinated (except fraction that was doing the bimbo pixie / jetpack cyclops meme run but the rest of the office thought it was peak comedy)
>>153809543and I forgot Utopia between War and Necrosha iirc
Loa is the most underrated and underused of them.>>153809543>curse of the mutants was not them iircIt was a Nick Lowe idea I believe.>PixieI've said it before but I feel like she was Lowe's pet character for whatever reason. She gets added to the NXM and is basically the central character of the Quest for Magik arc after Lowe becomes X-Men editor and virtually disappears once he gets moved over to Spider-Man.
>>153809712Can't imagine how an editor could have so much inference in a book but yeah there definitely was a push after K&Y put her front an center with the magik arc. ie pixie strikes back>here's an idea why don't we insert pixie to fill out the issue>yost: lowe this is a the fifth time this year you bring up pixie>fraction: lmao i'm telling land
>>153809712I don't mind it when they want to use the extended cast more often, a school book like this should really rotate things outside of Surge and The Hellions (great band name) but then she got Land'd up and went from cute retard helmet girl to class Stacy which was weird. Also they should have used Indra more.
>>153784886It says "academy" right there and school sucks.
>>153808355>Sofia is one of the exceptions but she got written out because of her being a roadblock for X-23/JulianThere's more and more reasons to hate that "couple". They really felt so forced cause they had nothing in common and Julian was just an idiot with some ability to fight.
>>153811443it's funny because she rejects him in her soloJJ is her only match
>>153811443X-23 was an incredibly forced character up until the attempt to make her Wolverine flopped. Now she's dead and there's a clone running around whose existence completely fucks over the whole "the revived people aren't clones" argument of Krakoa's fake resurrections.
>>153811555I liked Armor better anyways but she got fired from Wolverteen for Laura. X23 really just got shoved everywhere. Even into Avengers Academy.
>>153809543>>153809712Damn I could swear they had written the Storm & Gambit tie-in and one with the New X-Men kids in Curse of the Mutants. Guess they had someone else on board with some sense of continuity.
It really bugs me how the AcadX kids get treated. They went through some hardcore shit then all of a sudden it's like they were babies who need to protected. You'll get bullshit moments like this were Rogue uses their powers and they're all OH WOW WILL WE DO THAT ONE DAY despite having done better.
>>153811621She sucks too
>>153812289Basically the attempt to "toughen them up" failed because it was so absurdly over the top that everyone decided they needed to be PTSD babies. Also a bunch of them have been turned gay.
>>153812712Your mom sucks.
>>153811555x-23 was always a clone dumbo.
>>153784864They're very cool
>>153809830>Can't imagine how an editor could have so much inference in a bookThat kind of thing happens all the time in team books, the editor can have characters they want on the team, and characters they don't want on the team, and the writer will have to go along with it.Years ago Remender posted an image of the lineup he'd pitched for Uncanny Avengers, about half the final lineup were characters editorial wanted instead.
>>153808606Just depowered her and writing her out, and not killing all of the depowered characters would have been an acceptable end, but what they did was awful. Did she even get brought back during Krakoa?
Does anyone actually like X-23? I mean genuinely like her comics, her stories. Not just posting cute images or r34. Because I know she's a popular character but it also feels like she kind of isn't. Like she's popular in that Harley Quin kind of way with people who don't actually read comics but like the idea.
>>153817355Her nearly autistic personality as a result of life-long trauma was pretty charming.before she was a generic 20 something
>>153817355Didn't care for her early appearances, liked her late 2000s stuff, don't care for any X-Men comics now.
>>153808355>Also they kept David aroud as a humanThey kept David because he was the main character. Or as much as you have a main character in a team book.Dryad was wallpaper. Background.
>>153817417Yeah, same for me. Current Laura is whatever. The whole thing where there is the aged up version and a regular age clone around was such a mess.
>>153786214>remember that just a few years ago the previous teen book, Gen X, had this absolute meme panel happen.I'm almost positive that's from Global Frequency, not Gen X
