Okay you FUCKS lets hear YOUR great fuckin' ideas for how it should have ended.
Ragatha x Pomni lesbian anal sex pegging scene (Pomni is the one with the strap on)
>>153789968I think it ended fine. I would've wanted more time spent on lore (about the brain scans, the blue ai, how the people put on the headset) and more screentime of Caine than Jax, but it's fine. There really was no better way to wrap up all those plot threads in one singular episode.
Jax get ipad
To add on to my own post >>153790013In my own crazy, non-canon world Caine would've been the main character with the most screentime in episode 9... I really enjoyed his monologues in episode 8, and I wish he had gotten more time.
>>153789983Ragatha should wear the strap, it's hotter when the feminine one doms.
pomni goes gaga
>>153790067I just can't imagine Ragatha as a top, she's too much of a submissive and agreeable person.
Focusing so hard on Jax was actually the stumble the second half of this show made. People felt like it was an ensemble show. Making Jax the secondary main character just feels awkward.
Whatever happened to HISHE?
>>153789968Pomni and Ribbit team up to sexual humilate Jax. Zooble and Gangle lesbian degeneracy. Kinger bleaching Queenie. Ragatha the cuck to it all.
>>153790102Hopefully dead. I found their videos to be quite unfunny back then.
>>153790082She could be a gentle dom.
>>153789968>Caine stays dead>Kinger uses whatever leftover developer powers he has to revive abstractions>they all come back from the dead>Tron instead of SOMA>Jax and Ribbit become the only ones who escape to the real world and happily live together>Pomni and the rest of the cast apologize to Jax and are now bittersweet for his departure
>>153789968So it starts out with the players finding out that they're copies, and they're all bummed out because they think they're stuck in a dying simulation. But then SUDDENLY! It turns out that Scratch was also building sweet robot bodies, and he was actually planning to transfer his mind into one of them, and uploading his mind into the digital realm was just meant to be a temporary solution, and also the robot bodies can shapeshift to look like the players' digital avatars. So they escape the Circus that way, and they find out that their human selves are living their lives and they've gotta sort that shit out, and then Doc Brown shows up in the DeLorean and says they've gotta go BACK TO THE FUTURE with him because something's gotta be done about their kids, and then the Imperial March starts playing and a big Rick & Morty portal opens and Thanos flies in on a Death Star with two smaller Death Stars attached to make it look like Mickey Mouse, and Thanos looks directly at the camera and says "I'm coming for you, Redditors." Then everyone starts jerking each other off and shitting in each other's mouths, Roger Ebert rises from the grave and declares TADC to be the greatest cinematic masterpiece in history, and all of the buses start clapping. Not the people in the buses, no, I must clarify that the buses themselves are clapping. The actual vehicles. They're just standing on their back wheels and slapping their front wheels together like seals.
>>153790149awww cute :3You know what? fine, I can accept a dom ragatha.
>>153790095He's been the main antagonist of the show if that wasn't obvious from episode 1. Especially with how Caine reformed at the end. Doesn't have to mean he's evil just that he pushes the plot against the protagonists
>>153789968The server crash and the characters come to terms with their deletion.Cue to seeing the real characters moving on with their lives.
>>153789968zoe ragavan should have been ragatha and it is an insult to the audience's intelligence to subvert it in such a way
>>153789968>everyone finds out that they are brain scans>Jax goes nuts and replaces Caine as the one in charge of the Circus, proceeding to put everyone through far worse torture>the other Circus members use their conjuring powers to fight Jax to a standstill and overpower him>Jax backstory dump>Pomni manages to save Jax from abstracting as he completely breaks down and turns into a figurative slug-thing, he's basically just Evil Jax now>despite everyone insisting otherwise, Pomni goes to find Caine and the two have a heart-to-heart as he trauma dumps and we get more information on C&A>it turns out Pomni is actually an AI unknowingly spawned by Caine after "consuming" the copied psyches of the human characters, hence the Jesus parallels (last supper reference, the model of Pomni on a crucifix, Pomni as a healer, her colors being specifically red and blue), Caine in Episode 2 and the whole Gummigoo thing, Abel, etc.>Caine surrenders complete control to Pomni and becomes one with the Void (Nirvana/The Pleroma/Nothingness)>Pomni manages to find a window to the internet while in the Void and uses this to make the Circus a better place for the people in it>ending cuts back and forth between their human counterparts living their normal lives as they make happy memories in the circus>the end
>>153789968Giant robot battle
>>153790176Jax is a lot less relevant in the first half of the show, which comes off more as "every character gets an episode"
>>153790102>>153790125They lost the plot when they made an animated cinematic universe
>>153789983This, but Jax instead of Ragatha. Nothing else changes.
after finding out they're not real they find a way to turn off the machine and kill themselves
>>153789968I think like 80% of developed fan theories/fanfiction, even some of the garbage tranny ones, would at least acknowledge more of the lore and development of the different characters than the ending we got
they all abstract aside from Kinger and he's alone again
Why can't indie retards just make a good show for once? I deserve a better cartoon. Piece of crap.
>>153789968Not mental scans. Or, that before they leave and return IRL, Caine does/they allow him, to make mental scans, upon the point of leaving. Also, the revelation of Jax's abstracting was handled in a really blunt and weird way. I get that the intent was to show passage of time, but there's better ways of depicting such an occurrence.
>>153789968Keep the digital copies but each of them are a copy of another character that was abstracted. Pomni was ribbit the whole time and you could even have her being also a copy of cofmo with pomni being a jester while also a female with facial characteristics similar to ribbit, her return in this form as a way to get jax finally find his peace with his previous friendships that ended up being a deadend.
Everything stays exactly the same, but Pomni calls Jax a cunt bitch faggot who deserves eternal mind rape instead of comforting him.
>>153789968Skyline.Jax still in abstracted body but is completely sane, throw a montage of him slowly growing smaller in size and having a distinct rabbit silhouette at the end (still black jagged edges covered with eyes but they all have square pupils)
>>153789968Jax wants to suck dick and eat shit
>>153789968They were in stasis and get outliterally just that. jax can stay dead but the other 7 EPs have to fucking MEAN SOMETHING
>>153789968Pomni is or was not a real person but the perfected AI form for the program which the company or devs or whatever finally inserted into the program after all this time to finally fix it. She ends up replacing Caine to correctly and benevolently run the program. Maybe a big weepy ending where everyone else says their goodbyes and leaves though Pomni can't but she's not alone with the various digital creations like gummy gator. And newcomer human players continue to arrive to the program for her to joyfully entertain for their stay duration until their departure.Post-credits scene where one or some of the original main cast return to the program now and then to visit and play with Pomni.
>>153789968So they aren't copies yeah? And they return to real world. But before that and through the duration of the episode they reconcile with Caine or perhaps even go through effort and danger to rescue him from deletion. The ending is that they allow for Caine to become like a personal AI companion to them all, dwelling between their phones and computers and whatnot. He gets to accompany them and spectate on the real world and their lives, and he also serves as a means for them all keeping in touch IRL
>>153789968This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised and they kill GOD
>>153789968needed more gummigoo
>>153789968Basically:> They're all the original 6 members we saw in the last episode> Scratch/Jax made it because of his tumor in the hopes of living in cyberspace > Abel/Blue AI was supposed to keep the world running smoothly but Caine took over during the initial upload and started going off the rails (why Scratch was confused while talking to him)> They all band together to try to get out but Caine forces them to abstract to dwarf them> He regenerates them without altered memories in different avatars trying to keep them content to live in the circus forever and under his control/to keep him company> The only X factor is Pomni/Queenie> Whenever Pomni gets introduced into the circus they get everyone to start working together and figure out what's going on/how to get out. Otherwise they just fight with each other and go along with Caine's antics.> Pomni has been in stasis for quite awhile while Caine figures out what to do about her.> His test run for his latest plan was making a "fake Pomni" where he could observe what she does and do a test run in regards to handling her. This was Ribbit.> Ribbit gained everyone's trust and inspired them to think they were going to get out but then revealed they were actually Caine in disguise, upsetting everyone and causing Jax to isolate. > This possibly happened before Zooble and Gangle regenerated into their current forms and they don't remember.That's all I've got so far. Any thoughts from Anons on where to take it?
>>153791431I do like abstraction just being a process of recycling a personality
>>153791291I like this, could maybe combine it with my idea above. Maybe a new character unexpectedly pops in during the episode and everyone assumes it's Kaufmo recycling after they figure that out but then they realize there's another abstracted in the basement and after finding a way to fix/recycle them it turns out that's Kaufmo and the new person is Queenie. They then find out that Pomni is either a new AI or is Abel having manifested back into the circus to beat Caine and that means while everyone else can leave, Pomni can't. Jax gets an emotional moment during the goodbyes where he realizes Pomni being naive and determined actually did save them but she's still stuck there and feels like a dick about it, but Pomni shrigs it off with good humor. After they all get out we get to see Pomni running the circus as a type of dreamland for her where she lives with Gummigoo as her husband. Somewhere in the middle Caine manages to come back again and starts to abstract himself, but gets defeated again. At the end, Pomni turns him into something like Bubble and he's like Bubble's little buddy and finally content that he gets to run around do things but cant actually break anything/isn't happy about it but it's a benevolent sort of punishment (like Yzma at the end of Emperor's New Groove) The bodies were in stasis or there was some kind of time dilation. Alternatively, Caine just messed with their heads so they all thought they were from different time periods to confuse and demoralize them.
>>153789968I don't know about ending, but I'd introduce another newcomer character who simply had the misfortune of arriving after the circus went to shit. They don't have to do much and don't need a deep dive into a backstory but just someone new to shake things up and give Pomni a chance to reflect on her own growth since arriving
>>153791237There were never stasis pods.I don't know where people keep pulling them out but their asses must be very sore.
>>153789968Here's an idea:DON'T make the show be about Jax.It started as an ensemble cast with Pomni being the point of view character and wild card, and then through episode 5 and onwards it's just been increasingly more and more about Jax until episode 9 has been just Jax Jax Jax and the actual resolution was an afterthought. I am equally annoyed at both how he's just overtaken everyone else's time as to how he's essentially become the origin of everything bad that has happened in the Circus since he entered it. Gooseworx put all their eggs into the same basket betting that Jax would be such an amazing cautionary tale character and instead Jax was just a shallow asshole who did the same thing over and over and over and never managed to change despite everyone's efforts, including his own. Up until episode 9 he was just an unpleasant asshole, he wasn't a damn villain he was just the party member with the worst coping mechanism of them all, and what he needed was his one or two episodes where he matures past that shitty mental state and becomes a proper team player to then go on to face whatever the ending should have actually been, with it revolving around Caine, Kinger and Pomni. Instead TADC just became that one annoying anime trope where the villain dumps his whole tragic backstory on you as he dies.
>>153789968Kill Jax in episode 7 or 8.Have the Abstractions all start escaping post Caine death.Have them find Abstracted Jax among the hoard through some bullshit.Cast forces Jax to accept responsibility for his fuck ups and to actually start healing.Do something where it's clear he's not fully healed but made the first step in the process (maybe the abstraction becomes shaped like normal Jax but still clearly an abstraction design).Post Caine revival can stay mostly the same but the cast now try to help the previously abstracted members return to some sense of normalcy.Keep the idea they are all trapped, can't leave, but they now can better their situation and create their own sense of community. Also no copout get out of jail bullshit for Jax.
>>153789968I'd keep it exactly the same except for:>Caine stays dead>No internet>No IRL reveal>Kinger goes "wait we have brainscans of everybody">Reboots everyone who abstracted by repairing their files>Ending plays out with everyone being happy and gay together
>>153789968Kill gangle off in ep 4. Have them all be bits and pieces of real people instead of 1:1 copies. Have the second half be about the fall out of gangles death
Jax screams I'LL SUCK YOUR SHIT I'LL EAT YOUR DICKS
So i have to ask what about this made goose apologize to those who made ocs
>>153792029 (me)fuck i posted in the wrong thread
>>153789968instead of jax being too stubborn to be saved is caine no irl scene movie ends with everyone reconstructing the circus and finding meaning with each other
>>153789968>Jax is secretly a serial killer who ended up in C&A while hiding from the police>He was the cause of every abstraction often by getting someone alone and torturing them until they abstracted>He turns into a kind of evil half-abstraction able to abstract others easily>Slasher flick more or less with pomni as last girl and deletes him>She finds the computer and learns everything about all of them being snapshots>She deletes all the abstractions in an effort to free them more or less from their torment>She gives herself administrator privledges and brings back everyone but Jax>They're technically all new copies of them from right as they entered the circus>Caine is now more or less her secret personal AI assistant>Same last supper shot but now it is a less sympathetic psychotic smile across her face>Weird little sub-plot in the background that would more or less be the indie game viewfinder with pomni having been specifically tasked to find the designs and programming for the machine she herself is in so that more of a doomed humanity can escape to a digital world and live on in some small way
>>153791801>through episode 5 and onwards it's just been increasingly more and more about Jaxwhats weird is he doesn't really end up a villian/antagonist, cause he has nothing to do with the resolution of the plot. Spending the first half on Jax feels really disconnected from the rest: Caine reconciling and wrapping things up.
It's ironic how Jax described himself as the funny one and revealed that was his coping mechanism for being in the circus and from that point on until the end of TADC, he hasn't even tried to be funny one single more time.
It's ok endingPeople would bitch with anything anywayMaybe add more jax suffering and don't revive cain
>>153789968>Make Jax’s abstraction either something that happens towards the second and third act instead of doing it off screen, as the shock of losing them without saying goodbye isn’t there if Pomni is able to say goodbye later>maybe have everyone get inside Jax’s mind, not just Pomni, as its weird they let her risk her life for a hug when they could have helped at any time. Alternatively, have them resent Jax and be unwilling to help at first only to slowly come around the idea as the plot progresses through conversations and character development.>Kinger having ANY scene with Jax or Caine. Easily the biggest fumble of the entire finale is that he’s just team dad and exposition guy, not given any time to showcase how he feels about Jax or his AI son. You don’t get to have him go fishing with Caine on the credits like father and son if you don’t develop that relationship in the actual series>Not having the entire circus forgive and get along with Caine as easy as they did. They established it’d take a while to trust him, and then instantly they become best buds.>showcase how Caine’s shenanigans also lead to the abstraction of Kaufmo and Ribbit as the flashbacks completely bypass this crucial element as to why people abstracted.>Gummigo and Evil Pomni cameo instead of the stupid Gloinks
>Lust-provoking bedroom scene>Roles reversed>Jax, upon hearing the news, is shocked and finds an excuse to leave>Starts ignoring her out of fear of association>Ribbit eventually abstracts due to Jax's repressed transphobia>Jax's guilt builds up to his own abstraction where he finally comes to terms with what he did and accepts responsibility
>>153791902>Kill Jax in episode 7 or 8This.People, it’s so easy. There is literally absolutely no reason that Jax should have been the main and ONLY focus for the entire series finale, he is by far the least interesting character in the entire show.If they HAD to do an episode about Caine abstracting, they should have done it and had him die in wow 5 - 7.The ending should have actually focused on Pomni who should have been way more explored and developed, and on characters like Caine and Kinger and the whole situation and on Ragatha.Jax ruined TADC by getting way too much focus instead of being a minor supporting character who dies early.
>>153794701Meant about *Jax abstracting whoops, fuck. Caine is actually interesting and a focus on him is fine.
>>153789983This but add feet and inflation and burping>they can't stop burping
>>153794701>he is by far the least interesting character in the entire show.I'm so butthurt because there was so much set up as Jax being the MYSTERIOUS AND TROUBLED character who clearly had something going on in his past, so I allowed myself to hype up in my mind the fucked up story that had led him into being a confrontative asshole and was fully prepared for him to be the biggest and most sympathetic victim of all. And then I just get... this. He was always just an asshole. That's it. Oh you wanted to give him a chance? Get fucked retard. Oh and he's basically the main character now because his deal of being much more one dimensional than you thought was big enough that it had to overshadow everything else.
>>153790027>Jax irl is an ipad kidThis explains everything really
>>153789968Jax still abstracts, he's still their dog, but everything to do with his backstory is changed. No trans bullshit, don't make him an over the top villain, make Ragatha more relevant, especially to Jax, but also cut the fucking one minute long hug scene with Pomni, and keep Caine dead. Everything else can stay the same, it still wouldn't be great, but at least it wouldn't be abysmal dogshit.
>>153794952I’m honestly not very invested in Jax one way or the other but a “there’s less there than you thought” angle for Jax just makes it so much fucking worse that the finale for the whole fucking series to focus pretty much solely on Jax, oh my god I don’t care.I guess it would have been less annoying with a ton of fascinating background reveals and hidden layers instead but especially some doubling down on Jax being a dick just makes the a billion times worse.At least Caine is infinitely more fascinating and if we had to focus on a “problematic” character in some way, why couldn’t it be him?
>>153789983For me? Its anal via a double sided dildo.
>>153789983This but instead of a strap pomni grows a bit fat digital futa cock
>>153789968Just do pic's ending
>>153789968>Everybody is saying the final is a good ending, but could've used some more fleshing out>Yet people are calling it shit
>>153795128I most definitely wouldn't describe myself as a Jaxfag, he wasn't my favorite character by any means, but I also didn't have the vitriol for him much of the fanbase seemed to have. To me he was kind of the slow burn character that could turn the narrative on it's head with a big time reveal that would justify how obnoxious he had acted before.So the reveal being "Jax is so much more morally black and flat as a character than you believed, and the reveal doesn't actually affect the current circus situation at all" is the worst fucking way they could have gone. And not only that but they made that almost the entire ending, and post-mortem at that. It's also an extremely depressing idea that he was just broken and impossible to save, and that he was the rotten apple that made the others become worse and got Ribbit abstracted. I hate this ending, both because of this and because it left so much shit up in the air.
I would have gone a step further than the characters just being brain scans: they're brain scans of C&A employees with false memories of past lives they never lived: Pomni wasn't a youtuber, Ragatha wasn't a farm girl, Jax wasn't a runaway asshole who may or may not have had gender dysphoria, etc. They have a few key personality traits retained from their human selves (Gangle being shy, Kinger being fatherly and wise, etc) but they're ultimately exaggerated caricatures of the originals who have no higher purpose beyond seeing how AI with a human brainscan as its baseline reacts to high stress situations. Nobody takes it well at first, but since everyone grew a little closer thanks to Caine going postal, they're able to hash out their feelings with one another and make peace with their situation. It'd be a bittersweet and cerebral exploration of what it means to be truly human and, true to what Gooseworx envisioned, how people can find meaning in a stagnant life. Ultimately no one abstracts, Jax actually commits to being less of an asshole, everyone gets proper time to shine, and they all rebuild the circus and go on adventures that are tailor-made to their liking for eternity.
>>153795240You keep posting this in every threadNever stop
>>153790216This, exactly this but completely and utterly devoid of irony or self deprecation. Confident that this finale is what was planned from the start.
>>153789968>how it should have endedEpilepsy-inducing strobes for 15 minutes
>>153789968I haven't watched the leak, but here's how I would have done it:>Bubble is the big bad all along, and is the reason people kept abstraction, all as a means to break Caine down in the process>Kinger needs distraction to get Caine rebuilt>others try to distract Bubble>Jax abstracts>Pomni clings on to him as he's dragged into the pit>Ragatha sucks it up, and takes charge as the other two continue to hold Bubble off>in the abstraction pit, Pomni reaches out to Jax, and somehow is able to get him to become a damaged but complete Jax again>this can be reversed. Jax learning this goes looking for Ribbit>Kinger is struggling, as the girls can't hold Bubble off for much longer>suddenly, reinforcements come for the girls as partially abstracted former circus members appear>Kinger is joined by Queenie and Scratch, who work together>Caine comes back in a fixed form, deletes Bubble>the exit door is opened, people begin to leave>Scratch stays, knowing death awaits him outside, and doesn't want to leave Caine alone>the circus doors are always open>outside, we get a live action moment where we see the real Pomni wake upI don't care if it's too cheesy, cliche and feel good. A happy ending is what the people want.
>>153789968>now that Caine's gone, Bubble seizes power>everything turns into an Oney Plays character.ai video>big adventure to pull Caine out of the recycle bin so he can put Bubble back in check and they stop getting dismembered and trapped in the Mirror Dimension or the core of the sun or Literally Hell or the Piss and Shit Planet and Jax stops getting his cock blown off with a Red 9 pistol>Jax has to sacrifice himself
>>153789968Here's my cringe fanfiction:>circus is dilapidated, no sign of life>after much time in this state, the cast gets restless and starts looking for something to escape>come across caine's operational logs>it details he was actually rather quite competent and aware, just put on an aloof act>but not because of any malicious intent>he knew that humans were fickle, complex creatures, and in order to keep them sane, he needed to keep them spiritually fulfilled>utopia would be rejected by the humans, but constant torment would just break them>over time, he would learn the best way to keep them sane was not to make them happy, but to act as something of an antagonist, so they can unite under a common goal of "surviving" him>these would be in the form of adventures, to keep things lighthearted and not too hostileGranted, it's basically just a colorful version of the Matrix, and it would also require rewriting most of the third act, but I think it could be an interesting way to explore an AI that has to balance the ethics of being both good and bad at the same time, for the sake of the humans under his care.
>>153796260 (me)*dismembered and injected with serums that retroactively turn out to be placebos and trapped
>>153790216>The Pleromathe pleroma is not comparable to the void or nothingness you dumb pseud
>>153789968I'm glad this show ended cause I hate how popular it is with actual children while knowing it has a massive degenerate adult fanbase that is exposing these children to their bullshit
>>153789968>>153789983This but then both of them have sex with (me)
>>153789968They should've returned to the real world.Jax should've abstracted while trying to help the others and it should've been actually sad instead of >hehe let's put abstracted Jax in the cuck tent and leash him like a dog.
>>153789968Jax doesn't abstract, they reconcile with Cain, and they all escape....to Minecraft where they build a bigger and better circus. Real life selves aren't shown.
>>153789968The actual problem is the climax of the story was in episode 8, and episode 9 is just cleaning up after it. I think the Jax story is good in concept, and most of its execution (the scene in Ribbit's bedroom is hilariously long with barely anything happening on screen), but episode 9 is an epilogue more than anything else. Pomni entering Jax's abstraction didn't accomplish anything besides revealing his backstory in full to the viewer, narratively it did nothing for any of the characters and it doesn't push the story forward. Pomni didn't need to do that to get Jax in the tent, and she wasn't stalling it while Zooble built a rope out of extra limbs, it can be seen as Pomni making one last effort to get through to him but she doesn't acknowledge that she failed to do this. If it undid the abstraction it'd have a narrative purpose, but I think Gooseworx knew better than to give them such a cheesy sentimental method of undoing abstractions, because what would be a worse ending would be Pomni hugging all the abstractions to turn them back to normal.
>>153796473I don't think it was intended to look like a dog leash/collar, but because it does really look like a dog leash/collar it gives viewers a bad impression of what has happened.
Abel AI shows up then reboots the circus which kills everyone
Kill everyone
>>153789968>SOMA is dumb, they're real humans trapped in a digital universe>After the circus is falling apart after Caine dies>The Abstracted revert back to their regular form, Jax reunites with his lost friends, they can remember their real names and can alter their avatars (they can give themselves genitalia and nipples)>They also give out personal details and online handles so they can meet up in the real world>Ribbit explains when they were abstracting, she saw the other world and the void is they key to escaping>Pomni conjurs an exit into the void>With them all in the void they go crazy and intentionally try to abstract themselves>They all turn abstracted>Trippy kaleidoscope visuals>Then Pomni awakes back in her human body, having slumped over the desk in the abandoned C&A building>Time skip>The Circus meet up IRL, we see all their human form>Another time skip>Gangle and Zooble are a couple>Christine (Pomni) is pregnant with Felix's (Jax) child, their son's name is Jax>Grant and Queenie have a son named Bishop>Gangle is working on cartoon called "The Amazing Digital Circus">Series ends with Gangle showing it to group>Cut back the title screen >Credits roll with an orchestra remix of Digital Days
>>153790013BoooooooringArt is a means of expressing feelings, not nerdy ass science fiction.
Jax abstractsThe characters use their newfound imagination powers to try to contain JaxKinger realizes he can reverse abstractionEvery abstracted character recoversAll the characters work together to stop JaxDuring the fight flashbacks appear of Jax and RibbitRibbit and Pomni deliver the final blow, curing Jax of his abstractionBut the Circus is too damaged from the fighting and falls appartAll the characters fall into the voidJax,Pomni and Ribbit hold handsJax says a one-liner to the tune of:>"Heh, it was nice feeling things">Some time laterCaine reappearsIt turns out that everything was replayed and a massive screen is shown above that reads:"Recovering..."The characters all float about, seemingly motionlessA female voice appears, and the camera shows blue clothing and a robotic arm:>"Oh! You're the AI of this place, right?"The camera zooms out>"Nice to meet you, I'm Tari"
>>153789968Haven't seen the leak but I would've ended it starting with the obvious reveal they're computer simulations scanned from real people then establish that Kinger can delete their programs if they want it to end or try to recover Caine if they wanna stay in the Circus. The the rest of the episode is character explorations of all the members of the circus making their decision.It's kind of the only thing you can do given there's only like maybe at most an hour of content left.
>>153796581This is my problem with it too, agreed 100%. I wouldn't want abstraction to be solved, but I would have liked it if Pomni's involvement had made Jax ascend and become one with the code or whatever, instead of putting them all in a tent like dogs, letting them suffer a fate worse than death. Abstraction was seen as a horrifying fate, and now its portrayed as something beautiful the circus members can watch as entertainment. Thats wrong, they could have totally just said that confronting the circus members inside them could have made them dissolve and finally free themselves from all the torment, putting them to rest.We could have had a beautiful moment of Kinger going inside Queenie and letting her go, Ragatha doing it with Ribbit, Gangle with Kaufmo, Zooble with some of the others. Maybe even Caine with Scratch, you can do this all in a montage as each abstraction slowly evaporates and is put to rest. They made Caine be ok after his deletion, so anything goes in this program. But they didn't, so as you said, the entire Jax backstory scene was narratively pointless, as the end result is the same and Pomni didn't fix anything.
>>153798842>as the end result is the same and Pomni didn't fix anything.Watching latino memes of people pointing out Pomni has never actually solved anything and really could just have not bothered to do anything has been a real eye opener.I'd say the one good idea Pomni has actually had in the whole story was to put a bucket on Kinger's head once Caine went mad, and Ragatha could have done that.
>lorefags hate it>nolorefags hate it>regular rags hate it>/co/tards hate itThere's no point in pleasing any of you
>>153799071Not everyone hates it, but everyone has issues with it, which is perfectly fine seeing how they decided to develop this finale.
>>153799071>>153799132I mean, the ONLY people I've seen say they liked it were just anti-Jaxfags who didn't care about anything at all except that Jax ate shit, which I find really sad for someone who's supposedly a fan of the overall story and the other characters. I don't even know which other Xfags are supposed to be happy, because everyone got shafted even if not as ridiculously hard as Jax.>Pomni has proven she was really irrelevant from start to finish.>Ragatha never had her day.>Zooble never had her day.>Gangle's entire contribution to the whole finale is "I'm not crying/I'm crying" like anyone cares that it takes her a few minutes to process it.>Kinger doesn't matter for anything, he didn't get to talk no jutsu Jax, he didn't get to help Caine become better, he didn't get any meaningful backlash for fucking everything up.>Caine somehow develops what seems to be the power of friendship and diversity of opinions right after getting killed because everyone hates and fears him, proceeds to log onto the internet and become more normal (lol) then just straight up lobotomizes himself and tosses all his mental issues into the void then gets forgiven instantly.Like, yeah, Jax got a fucking ass deal, but no one seems to notice that there wasn't a single real winner. It's all just feelgood stuff with no substance at the end, they all just get told shit's awesome now and that's it. Imagine being Zooble and your one fucking action in the whole movie is making rope.
The real litmus test will be if Japan likes the ending or not
>>153799352>Pomni has proven she was really irrelevant from start to finish.Opinion discarded right here.
>>153801241The one role Pomni has consistently carried out throughout the story was being Jax's therapist and she failed at it. The others didn't even need her that much, Gangle got healed by Zooble, Ragatha by Kinger.
>>153789968they all abstract in the lonely circus and then the show gets greenlit for season 2, "the amazing digital zoo"
>no SOMA shit>Jax abstracts>Bubble final boss>Kinger opens the exit door, and tells the girls to escape>he won’t leave and abandon the abstractions>Pomni leads the others to the exit, then after all three are through and out, apologises to Ragatha and closes the exit door>Pomni runs back and whilst going through the offices, finds Caine’s back-up files>saves Kinger from Bubble, gets Kinger to restart Caine, Caine deletes Bubble>the three of them will work together to cure the abstractions, starting with trying to reach out to Jax>he says something human just before it cuts>rest of the episode is in the human world with the three girls as they plan a break-in at the C&A headquarters. They’re going to make sure everyone gets out
>>153789968>Caine Stays dead>Jax abstracts>Abstracted Jax takes Pomni with him to the Abstraction prison>Pomni accidently sees Jax's memories>Through Jax Pomni Discovers that abstraction occurs when people discover they're copies and can't process it>Pomni nearly Abstracts until she remembers back to Gumigoo and realizes that purpose can still be found as a copy.>She escapes the abstraction prison by essentially seeing through the program and gaining caine like god powers as a domain user.>She frees the abstractions and explains everything to the rest of the characters and gives them admin powers to make whatever world they'd like.>the Abstractions calm down enough to return to normal and all accept their place in the circus as copies.>Everyone goes their seperate ways but meet up from time to time.>Show ends as it pans out from the computer showing the program running smoothly in a dark room.
>>153789968Caine contacts the irl characters in an attempt to get fresher copies of the cast while they're still vulnerable to listening to him, all of them turn him down until Caine gets desperate and uses his knowledge of Jax's dead mother claiming she's alive to bait him back to putting the headset on leading to a modern well adjusted duplicate to appear that causes Jax 1 to partially abstract and go apeshit trying to kill him and everyone for trying to replace him when no one really knows whats going on. rest of the stories about the same except Jax comes back to reality when his modern self explains life got better for him. Caine's hailmary utterly failed and this is when he gives up on the blue a.i for good realizing what he's been doing this whole time has just made everything worse. Kaine combines the 2 and the movie ends the same but Jax now well adjusted from modern Jax's lessons and calmed at being in the circus due to Jax 1's lived in circus experience.
>>153795961i'd take it, nice post
>>153789968Let's discuss this again. How many episodes do we have left so we can ensure a good conclusion?
>>153790154Lmao at this shit ending.
>Caine dies>Jax represses his tantrum and goes on an ego trip>Turns the others into his playthings by de facto replacing Caine>Tension builds up, leading Gangle finally stand up for herself>Jax outs her little secret as a knee-jerk reaction>Instant regret leads to Jax having an epic meltdown that turns him on everyone>After a moment of sobbing, Pomni decides to check up on Jax>He is in the process of abstracting>Jax, in a vulnerable state, tries to hide>Pomni traps him in a dark room and starts confronting the very little left of what remains of him, ending with a hug that sucks her in>Fast forward to bisexual street light>Jax's abstracting figure seeks out Ribbit>They start merging together, establishing contact between them>In a moment of pure catharsis, they forgive each other as Jax finally opens up>Pomni, begging Jax to not proceed, eventually loses grip of him and is pulled out>Hesitantly, she comes to terms with the outcome>Fast forward to Pomni staring at the camera post credits>A new human appears behind her>The endThoughts?
>>153806422We have thoughts now?
>>153790216So much better
>>153789968Change nothing, except instead of that zoom out at the end transitioning to the live action bus stop, have it be live action footage of the outside of a derelict building which is then suddenly completely demolished by either explosives or Bobcats.
>>153789968I'd just make everybody's head explode and the rest of the episode is just the camera focusing on their decapitated bodies for 2 hours.
>>153799949It’ll probably be a 50/50 whether they either resonate with the “find meaning in a stagnant life” message or perceive it as an insult to their daily routine.
>>153789968Orgy-Kingdom-Harem featuring Gummigoo domming everyone in the digital circus possible.
>>153806422Let me think just a moment.
>>153789968everything stays the same only a new person joins the circus at the end
>>153789968>Okay you FUCKS lets hear YOUR great fuckin' ideas for how it should have ended.As it turns out The Amazing Digital Circus is actually a kind of cemetery where people's minds are uploaded before they die so they can live on in digital form which is why Scratch created it in order to outlive his own tumor.
>>153789968Idk the ending but only the first episode was good so I'd redo from there.
>>153789983>ASS TO ASS
>>153789968Give it more time to cook in general, though gooseworx likely didn't want to do that. Have the abstracted be a threat that rewrites the world wherever it goes.Jax still abstracts but in a way that breaks all the abstracted out.Conjuring is used to try to contain them but it isn't a permanent solution as they keep breaking through. Pomni does manage to get into their corrupted sub verse, the flashback doors are wider ranging with less total Jax focus. Caine's alterations are specified better, scratch showing horror at what he had done, queenie's emotional reason for abstraction made clearer. Kaufmo and Ribbit are shown to be toxic towards Jax and enabled his worst tendencies, but Jax also enabled their worst tendencies. The dynamic brought out their worst tendencies, Jax snaps after a misunderstanding and it goes downhill.Pomni still fails to save them, de-abstracting isn't possible. The people in the abstracted files are on loop, ghostly fragments. They can't interact like humans can really, only be frames of parts of their lives in circus before abstracting. Not much different from photos or videos of people who died in that regard. The abstracted get contained via darkness and they seem to be more peaceful after.Caine becomes a bee due to having to restore from a backup where that was what their avatar looked like but they remember what happened(I want to have Caine as a bee)Caine still does break back out and it goes mostly as it did, but there is a more direct reconciliation scene with Kinger,Real life selves are shown with more mixed outcomes. Kinger in real life lost everything, the company went under and the computer they're in is kept as a virtual archive. Ragatha is much the same as in the actual episode. Real life Zooble died in a freak car accident not longer being in the circus. Real life Gangle still is a manager at spudzy's. Jax's character and pomni's character are basically the same. They never leave the circus.
>>153818481I think Grant in real life doing something that kept the circus going for decades makes sense a bitEven if he wasn't aware of the program uploads making sapient humans in the server, he would still be aware of Caine and so be motivated to keep it going due to his attachments there.