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>>153804972
It seems, AI as won and indies made sure that would happen

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Nobody's going to make anything original ever again. Anyone hardheaded enough to brush off mountains of criticism will just make shit like this.

>>153804972
As much as I would like for that to be the case, nobody is going to care about this a month from now.

>>153804972
>New media execs:
Aw crap, the Brazilians leaked our shit. I hope that won't effect our plushie sales
>Old media execs:
Give me your daughter.

Grow up. Stop looking for excuses why you're not drawing. Make a comic.

>>153805067
This, all the same people will just find other shit to complain about

>>153804972
Fat snake wife

>>153804972
people need to start realizing that the MOST TOXIC fans in said fandoms is always the terminally online gender queer fags
nobody wants to admit this but its always them, not the boogeyman incels but the trannies coordinating on discord to dig up info on employees and cancel them for decade old tweets
once you push those people out and make them unwelcome will you suffer less and have more freedom on your work

moral of the story: never trust brazil or south korea

>>153804972
this again?

>>153805199
it's the FOTM, Faggot of the month. when a faggot in twitter talks, we listen and learn

damn 3 dubs in a row above

Oh absolutely
It's dead
Amazon or Netflix will buy put glitch and put an end to this whole thing
Im pretty sure Amazon did it too..
>One of the leaked files has "discord" angel dust" all over it
Or just some loser who likes hazbin and hates DC who knows

>>153805264
aka "trubs"

>>153805268
Amazon already killed Spindlehorse, it's over.

Why would anyone make anything if every indie cartoonist turns into a lolcow?

>>153805309
Not indie cartoonist, one in particular has since calmed down. It's really weens and a-logs that are a problem.

everyone who breathes is a lolcow

Indie animators need to stop making shows for mentally ill teenagers and start making shows for normal heterosexual adults (leaning male). For instance I think JJK is slop but it’s got what normal people like, conventionally attractive characters and badass fight sequences

>>153805268
>buy put glitch
I think I'm too tired... I've just been reading through spoilers like crazy to spam on threads and especially on twitter like crazy lol

>>153805344
>Not indie cartoonist
*Not every indie cartoonist

>>153805177
yeah yeah, ideally you wouldn't want to attract either anyways, they're both as annoying in their own ways

>>153805177
I'm surprised a popular creator hasn't explicitly called out this demographic. It's never anyone that's non LGBT, doesn't have a mental illness plastered in their bio or above the age of 25. It's not like this is hard to find info, all of these freaks advertise it when you click their profile. Goose is a 30 something year old getting finger wags from groomed teenagers. Fucking comical visual if you imagine this shit playing out irl

>>153804972
>Twitter thread
Why do people read things on twitter and then feel the need to post about it here?
Also, congrats on outing yourself for being a twitter-fag.

>>153805389
you are what you eat

>>153804972
The problem's that the internet fandom space has gotten more and more parasocial with the media they interact with to the point where they feel that everything they get invested in is a literal part of themselves so whenever the creators "step out of line" it's seen as a massive betrayal/insult. This leads to them either trying to tear at the hands literally feeding them or basically taking the characters and treating them as personal totems/wish fulfillment devices, source material be damned.

>>153805177
That does kinda freak me out knowing that there's just this mentality Ill discord/twitter person or people who just wait for one slip up and then, bam
You are their enemy, you must be fired, ostracized, and your work torn down. That's just their life mission there
You can never make it up, for you have evil in your heart and you deserve it

>>153805440
no pride on using the social media in general, it's not like this place is any different

>>153805475
4chan kettle calling the twitter discord broken drugged up meth kettle black

target the people who harass not the people who are lolcows it isn’t rocket science

>>153805498
given these peoples ideology, even if its directly and obsessively documented to leave no room for doubt they would rather indie animation die then admit to this clearly observable fact that has been a thing for DECADES at this point

the first step is someone well known admitting this is problem but you KNOW just the claim itself will get them nuclear cancelled by these very same people who WILL make their life hell for daring to point this out

Why don't these entitled selfish retards just make better cartoons for me to enjoy?

>>153805459
>>153805498
this is a problem with social media in general, they all just want engagement and to posture as some sort of pure soul, any product you consume that is tainted shows that you are also flawed, and we can't have that, oh no no no

>>153805459
This sort of mentality taints almost everything to a degree even science.

>>153805520
I remember something like that happened with pizza tower, some zoomer tried to cancel the dev for the cowboys and Indians part so people called him stupid and he cried and went home. But you gotta stop it early

>>153805594
to provide examples, look at any board here and see how many idiots fail to argue about X show being better than Y show, that fans of X show are dumb and Y is for intelligent/cool people. people simply don't want to be on the losing side and will make fun out of anything barely flawed

>>153805177
the thing is most of the non-toxic terminally online fans are also "gender queer fags." most people who are terminally online are either autistic or part of minority. most of the time both. and there is a trend of autistic people being more attracted to non-binary gender ideas (kinda makes sense since rejection of certain societal norms is common in autism).
so yes, normally most people you'll see being toxic online are LGBT in some way. but that's because most people you'll see who are "terminally online" in general fall under that demographic as well. it's simple maths. most cishet and neurotypical guys are too busy participating on the next cryptoscam or AI hype cycle to take part in fandom discourse.

>>153805722
If they happen to be responsible for the most trouble it deserves to be called out and shamed and constantly exposed

>>153805480
it isn't, but posting to a social media platform about a post you found on another social media platform is especially retarded. Don't you see how much sadder it is when people make threads to discuss someone's tweet than it is to be the person who made the tweet?

>>153805769
i just think we need to go back to the days in which everyone was in their own little forum, and you were just a username and your cringe-ass personality. turning our internet identities into a second life was the biggest mistake of it all, especially because the internet makes it really easy to dehumanize people.
i miss the days in which shit like callout documents were unthinkable because "why the fuck would you care that much about a random internet stranger"

>>153804972
SEX WITH KEESHEE

this leak is the most elaborate YOU’RE GOING BACK TO BRAZIL meme

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>>153805389
The 40-year-old man children on Youtube who still care about Star Wars and culture wars are always said to be the pinnacle of toxicity. Those guys are annoying but they're not the ones sending death threats and bewitching eachother in private Discord channels.

Creators don't say shit about the groomed discord kiddies because that's seen as punching down, and that's a big no-no to these people.

>>153804972
1 artists should start growing balls and telling fans to fuck off
tarantino is one of the biggest movie directors and he occasionally shittalks other people
if only the indie scene that brags about being free from big companies and execs tried telling others "no"
2 stop pandering to autistic fandom creatures that mistake fiction for reality and don't know how to socialize outside of autistic fandom activities to begin with

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>>153805177
one day, people should learn that anything to do with "woke" (previously called "sjw", of course they memoryholed that term) originates from somethingawful and the movement consists of former trolls and assholes that just replaced calling people autists and honest bullying with calling them problematic and pretending to do anything for a moral cause

>>153805008
I would be pro AI if we actually got good original AI properties but more AI users just want to generate porn. Good if you want to jack off but I like animation and comics beyond just making me hard.

>>153805868
SEX WITH NANCE

>"Oh my god, why aren't there more cartoons aimed at teens?!"
>Finally make cartoons for teens
>Every single one of them has a fanbase of annoying autistic teenaged faggots and third worlders
What the fuck were you expecting?
Did indiefags really not understand the audience they were courting?
You are literally attracting the audience you asked for, you seem to forget how annoying and cunty YOU were when YOU were a retarded teenager.

>>153805177
a huge portion of it is also literal teenagers
back in my day teens and tweens would get their frustrations out by instigating prep/emo wars on neopets forums or calling people fags on /b/, kids these days harass celebrities off twitter

>>153804972
nortubel has more balls than the average indie artist

>>153805008
AI is only good for porn and shitposting, and even then the porn is mid

>>153804972
I'm not going to play into emotional manipulation and victimhood. Just don't interact with your online fandom.

>>153805177
100%

>>153806269
Mostly e-celebs. Real celebrities have a better handle on managing a fanbase. It’s the people who aren’t media trained and got famous at 15 for a furry AMV that struggle with keeping their brand and personal life separate.
If Taylor Swift posted the way Goose does, she’d be tearing her hair out too.

>>153805971
Yea, no one's ever shot up a grocery store because their waifu Slave Leia told them that their manager is secretly Jaba the Hut and they need to kill everyone to save her.
People don't like to admit it, but a lot of the mega-autists into cartoons are people who genuinely need to be either committed or outright barred from any internet-connected devices and forced to engage with people in the real world.
Nerds "of olde" were better about this because the internet either wasn't a thing or was rare, so they needed to develop actual social skills and, more importantly, conflict resolution skills. They had to learn how to compromise instead of just retreating to their hugbox, because a lot of the time there WAS no hugbox to retreat to, the people they had disagreements with were the only people in their nerd community. This is why those older Star Wars and Star Trek nerds are FAAAAAR more tolerable than the annoying zoomer and gen alpha ankle-biter retards of today. Say what you like about all their shitty culture war videos, but if you had to choose between a fandom full of people like them and a fandom full of "they/them enby latinx 14yo pro-ship DNI lesbian" types, you'd choose the former in a heartbeat, unless you're a part of the latter.

>>153804972
Or maybe it was just a bad ending to a popular show. And at the same time and insane cash crap, in theaters my ass, we were promised a really fantastic ending and instead we got a crappy ending and if this was free on YouTube yeah no one would be complaining right now we would say oh it's okay but this person wanted us to pay money to see their terrible ending

>>153805177
Almost all transgender people are just bad people in general. It doesn't even have anything to do with the fact that they're transgender, they would be bad people even if they weren't. I'm of the opinion that a lot of them do it because they're friendless autists who were bullied in high school and they see this as an easy way to avoid criticism or paint themselves as a villain. They actively seek out people who are talking badly about their community and attempt to harass them, it's not like they just so happen to randomly come across criticism and decide to ignore it.

>>153805863
yeah. I also miss the days when the internet wasn't considered particularly lucrative and the idea of being "internet famous" for actual money was laughable. People did things because they wanted to, shared things because they liked it, and discussed things because they were interested.
Influencer culture really destroyed anything earnest about online spaces.

>>153807007
uploading stuff to the internet is generally free. people just see that others are making money that way and assume its easy, but its far too oversaturated for any new creators to reasonably make a name for themselves anymore.

>>153806269
WHERE
DO
YOU
THINK
WE
ARE

This is 4chan, we did the same things here but most people just don't have faces attached to their posts unless you were on /soc/ or /cgl/

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>>153806078
Like fair enough but I’ll still blame tumblr as being the dominant force for this bizarre as fuck period we’re in where mentally ill people would genuinely have you treat fictional characters as if they’re real people with human rights

So they are digital copies of real people, Jax was a normal dude in the real world but on the internet he's a transgender bunny, is that what the moral of the story don't be on the internet it turns you gay

>>153807041
>its far too oversaturated for any new creators to reasonably make a name for themselves anymore
that doesn't stop people from trying which just adds to the noise ratio. Everyone is trying to be a brand and the majority of people are chasing clout over simply being able to be enthusiastic about something they like.

>>153807105
I've been on 4chan since I was 13 and I've never harassed celebrities off of social media over stupid bullshit because even when I was 13 I thought that shit was autistic as fuck.
And I'm 30 with a fucking kid now.

>>153804972
Nobody wants to have a "Digital Circus-popular show" anymore, that's for sure. I mean, it's unlikely anyone would ever luck into hitting that same height again, but I can see people wanting to ensure it never happens either. Maybe indie show creators will all need to be complete sociopaths who feel nothing from now on, maybe huge shows shouldn't have everything riding on one human creator. TADC may be the last time we see someone hit the mainstream while trying to tell a story with some humanity in it, and instead we're going to have to suffer through indie shows about "Disney bad!" or "Videogames exist!" that all launch will their own toylines.

>>153807222
>Nobody wants to have a "Digital Circus-popular show" anymore
is this hyperbole or are you just naive?
I think A LOT of creators would happily make that deal with the devil. In fact, I think the only people who would pretend that they wouldn't want that are saying that to cope with the fact that they'd never even come close to having the chance. And if they did, nobody would purposefully derail to avoid it.

Ironically, the way to do it and remain intact as a person is to completely ignore the fan base. Make posts about the show in an official capacity and maybe do a handful of events to help promote new releases, but as much as /co/ tends to think that creators NEED to listen to their fans to get feedback about their show, TADC is a great microcosmic example of why a lot of creators tend to remain more distant.

>>153807182
he was a a furry

>>153807327
it's funny how often I see people say shit like "i don't want to make something popular because i don't want a fanbase full for mentally ill troons". that's genuine cope. who wouldn't want to get paid to make something they want to make? its as simple as not interacting with them, because they will see that you do, and then they will all constantly harass you to get you to acknowledge them.

One of these days more people will take the Toby Fox approach of wiping away 96% of your old history and actively avoiding engaging with your fanbase

>>153807206
Based increasingly rare normal guy poster. I thought we were a dying breed

>>153807406
Toby didn’t erase his history
We still meme about his earthbound Halloween hack and the baby was you

>>153807543
I didn’t say “100%” for a reason

>>153804972
>Porn artist tries to jump onto the bandwagon
Twitter screen cap threads should be worth a ban.

You people are such copers. Leaks happen all the time and people still go to the theater anyway, TADC is not going to flop.

>>153805361
>What about everyone else?
A blue lolcow.

>>153807719
just because ncs is a scalie doesnt mean he makes porn

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>Gamecade
Nigga think he part of the group

>>153807829
its pretty good for a solo project

>>153805008
AI has no future in entertainment. It is some rich faggot's toy because they are losers who have money and no rizz.

>>153804972
This type of mania is the symptom an industry getting really popular.
It's unavoidable.

>>153804972
stop egosearching and doomscrolling

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>>153805177
This is why Gameoverse's fandom is gonna be fine.
BIG FAT CAT TATS in episode one. You bet your sweet bippy that the fags and complainers got turned away at the door over that.

>>153808201
>same body type
>NOOOO EVERY FEMALE MUST BE FLAT AS A BOARD. NO TITS. NO ASS. NO HIPS.

>>153808201
Unless she turns out to be a lesbian, which will immediately attract the yurifags, who are also terminally-online gender queer fags these days.

>>153808201
The cat is a dyke, it’s basically over for normal discussion now

>>153804972
You could always make something for yourself, and then just not post it online.

Space King is the most straight male indie toon out there and it is living the most quiet, peaceful existence out of them all.

>>153808319
Yes, this is because straight guys, even the autistic ones, tend to be less drama-obsessed than women, gays, trannies, or enbies.
They just want to chill and talk about how that scene in that show they liked was funny or cool or stupid.
Even with the current shit going on with The Boys, there's very little drama, no death threats, just people saying "that was shit" or "you just don't get it."

>>153805177
Trannies really are the worst. You either get the "this is heckin wholesomeness I needed right now, things are bad in my life" garbage, or the "I'm going to dox you and ruin your life" shit.

>>153808201
I'm holding my breath to see if Kit will be made into a lesbian or not. The monkey's paw has been awful lately.

>>153805177
It's why there's no more official rule 34 of Ava's Demon

Is a leak/bad finale really enough to completely kill TADC and Glitch?

>>153807373
It's tough for indie creators because to a certain point, they need to be more boots-on-the-ground when it comes to promoting their project. It's also hard because when you're first starting out as an individual creator, people who are into the sorts of things you're putting out could be potential friends as opposed to just fans and when you're likely spending most of your time alone drawing in your room, actually being able to connect with people over your creations is like the ideal.
It's tough to know when you crossover from random internet creator to "known personality". Leading up to that point, remaining distant and unreachable won't do you a lot of favors.
I think that most people probably wouldn't purposefully try to avoid becoming popular, but I also think riding the line between doing enough work to get your project known by the public while also not giving the public too much access to yourself is a hard line to walk. If all you do is promote your show, people won't react well because they don't like being advertised to, but give them too much and the especially retarded individuals out there will start to get the feeling that you owe them something.
Which is the case with the majority of /co/

>>153808201
the cat is apparently a lesbo which will attract these people
Yuri-tards are on the same level of toxic mentally ill faggots

>>153808357
>straight guys, even the autistic ones, tend to be less drama-obsessed
That's a funny thing to say on /co/ which is primarily straight guys who do nothing but bitch and post about drama

>>153808424
holy shit I remember michelle had a pic where...the green girl had nip slip and mfs went wild in the bad way. I think she had to (or chose to, rather) upload a censored version

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>>153807406
Toby Fox yapped way too much on the last waiting period and it shows with how much of a shit show the /v/ threads are now.

The real to do it is the Team Cherry way of shutting the fuck up until your thing is ready to come out.

>>153808494
>which is primarily straight guys
Lmao
No, /co/ is full of faggy latinxes, trannies, and women.
It's part of why this board is so drama-obsessed.
You should have used something like /pol/ and said straight dudes are obsessed with politics too, but that doesn't work because most straight dudes tend to want to keep politics out of their entertainment these days.

>>153808319
Space King somehow feels more gay than Steven Universe. It's like Steven Universe (as a show) is like seeing a twink wearing a pink t-shirt, while Space King (as a show) is like actively oiling up muscley dudes with your own hands. It masquerades as being hyper masculine which only makes it feel even more gay.

>>153808528
Space King is the only indie show to have giant uncensored tits in it thus far, ironically.

>>153808521
>most straight dudes tend to want to keep politics out of their entertainment these days.
most straight non-retarded non-maga-pilled dudes you mean. /pol/tards are an especially stupid subset who seem happy to inject politics into entertainment as long as it isn't "woke"

>>153808545
they also had an uncensored pendulous dick swinging on a monster and there are SO many dick shapes in the show, it's hard to keep track. Just look at the mouths of their helmets which are (purposefully) shaped like the tip of a penis.

>>153804972
I honestly think this whole tadc drama has made me way more racist. At the very least, I’m going to avoid the black indie cartoons that people heavily shilled during the drama.

A fetish artist starting an animation career? What could possibly go wrong!

>>153808556
Nah, even most MAGAfags don't like politics in their media, just look at the ones on Youtube (I believe they're known as grifters to you), they always complain about politics bogging down a story regardless of which politics it is.
Straight guys are the only ones who still adhere to the "shut up and entertain me" philosophy these days.

>>153805008
Wait till you see ai attract the same type of crowd

>>153808601
>regardless of which politics it is.
can you find an example of a magatard complaining about magatard politics in their media?

>>153808521
Guys do like drama, but it's different. I heard it best explained in terms of sports and celebrities.
Men will hate on a football player, but they won't care about who he's dating and his personal life. It's all about his stats or how much he sucks.
Women are the ones who make snark subreddits and forms about minor internet personalities.

>>153807327
>>153807373
Of course I wanna be rich like Notch, but I don't wanna be disgraced and unfulfilled like Notch either.

And the worst part is, I think most of what people called out Notch for were correct. A lot of the time those creators truly fucked up in some way, and it scares me because I know I'll fuck up eventually and the critics will be correct.

Besides, not everyone can deal with being a public person, having so many manic eyes on you.

>>153808616
maybe one, but probably not 5

>>153808616
Even MAGAfags shit on cringeworthy stuff like New Norm and Mr. Birch.
Hell, guys like Nerdrotic shit on the Daily Wire all the time because they insist that pop culture is "nerd shit that doesn't matter."

>>153808626
With sports, the real problem guys have is sports betting, those guys are a whole different breed and I'd argue they're even worse than autistic trannies since they behave in similar ways (though for reasons that are less pathetic, they send athletes death threats because they're degenerate gamblers who lost $3000 on a bet, not because they're autistic parasocial faggots who are upset that their surrogate friend/mommy/daddy doesn't assuage their social anxiety by canonizing their preferred ship).

>>153808637
>A lot of the time those creators truly fucked up in some way
I'm not plugged into the creator drama so I don't know what people were mad about specifically with him, but it's a two part problem - while some acts are so heinous that cancellation may be warranted, I think a lot of cancelling these days tends to be over stuff that could otherwise be good things to discuss and learn from.
But in general, people have gotten too used to using social media like their own personal diary. If you simply avoid vomiting every hot take, fleeting thought, and personal opinion on social media, then there won't be anything for people to find.
The bigger problem is that people are just really fucking lonely these days. A lot of people don't have a robust IRL friend group, so they turn to social media instead where everything they think, feel, and joke about is part of some sort of written record.

Do yourself a favor and nuke any personal opinions from your social media now. Treat it like you would the workplace...you can share opinions and jokes and stuff, but it should all be from the understanding that your boss and/or HR rep could be listening.

Meanwhile, try to foster more IRL friends so when you need to vent, you do that person to person. The old way is for guys to go out, get a little drunk, and talk some shit. The next day, everyone is slightly hungover and what was said is forgotten or, at the very least, unprovable.

>>153808650
can you find 5 *specific* examples?

>>153808780
Honestly, I can't think of 5 pieces of modern entertainment that even have "MAGAtard" politics in them.
The closest I can think of besides the 2 I already mentioned are shows like Yellowstone and Landman.

>>153808545
I recall Harry Patridge's old Starbarians cartoons had giant exposed tits on the front of the ship as a joke (because the ship was shaped like a T-rex). I dunno how he got away with that.

>>153808876
doesn't have to be 5 different pieces of entertainment. Just 5 magatards who are critical of the political injection of magatard politics in the shows or films you can think of.

>>153808911
>Nerdrotic
>Geeks + Gamers
>Ryan Kinnel
>Critical Drinker
>Disparu
They're all pretty Trump-adjacent types who also shit on stuff like the swill Daily Wire if it's ass (a good example being that Lady Ballers movie, which pretty much all of the MAGAfag online talking heads shit on because it was kind of shit).

>>153808899
because Starbarians is so fucking old at this point that he made that joke when people could still get away with sexualized humor on the internet.
That says as much about the changes in the social landscape as it does about how fucking long he's been working on that boondoggle of a show.

>>153808757
I'm mainly talking about criticism in regards to the work, not personal lives of artists. Notch wasn't a good programmer and created a ton of problems Minecraft still has, for example.

>Do yourself a favor and nuke any personal opinions from your social media now
It's way harder depending on the website. Old youtube comments are nearly impossible to find. I've heard Toby had to pay an specialized company to wipe out his foot prints, and not everything was taken out.

Regardless, I keep my hot takes for this anonymous website now.

>>153808972
specific examples please. I've known of those guys to be pissy about "woke" stuff, but cannot find examples where they are mad about maga politics specifically in entertainment. When they're mad about annoyingly lefty shows/films they point out the politics. When they're mad about annoyingly maga shows/films, it's just bad, but they don't seem to highlight the politics as being part of the problem.

>>153809001
>Old youtube comments are nearly impossible to find.
Here you go:
https://www.howtogeek.com/785375/how-to-find-your-comments-on-youtube/

>>153809021
Again, I can't think of much modern media with what could be described as "MAGA politics" being injected into the story.
Most of it is just shows that are shit thinking they can attract retards by pandering via MAGA advertising soundbites as opposed to a piece of media where the story is something like an illegal immigrant raping a woman or something and her having to deal with the fallout of that.
Again, all I can think of is maybe some Daily Wire shit, but no one talks about that stuff because it's all shit anyways.
Maybe Sound of Freedom?

>>153808612
>he doesn't remember the DALL-E threads
already happened

>>153804972
What the fuck is a "Gamecade"?

>>153809069
Man. At this point I feel I'd be better off just owning it than trying to appease those vultures. Scaring them away early would probably be for the best.

>>153809105
The twitter users show
It's about a cat who works in an arcade
That's it

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>>153809001
I was still young when shit like this was hitting the news. It spooked me into wiping anything relating to my name. I feel bad for people who have stuff too old to sanitize.

>>153809176
I really can't express how much I have almost nothing to loose anymore besides "mom would be sad". Something in me feels like owning this shit as a form of fuck you to everyone.

>>153807406
Talking about toberto, his fanbase is legit a real fucking cult, especially considering how these niggers chimp out over anything ecky and controversial, while protecting his ass even when he
A. Got lynched by the spics
B. Had an account lusting toward a 2hoes loli
C. Made jokes about negros
D. One of his goonies went full music jew, and started to copyright everything (and he still got away with it, even if he is literally responsible for what he does).

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>>153809282
I'd say even /v/ has Toby Fox cultists who get really ass mad if you criticize anything about the game's direction.

>>153808201
These kind of people are who the Game Grumps crowd have been targeting for like ten years now. Also protag is a lesbehonest.

Why is it so impossible for show creator's to not post on social media. If you have thin skin, that's literally all you have to do.

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Why make an actual indie cartoon when you could make a roblox parody instead and get more views than monkey wrench

>>153809468
Because inevitably everyone wants free attention.

>>153804972
no, indie animation is cooked because YouTube yanked the rug out from under ads, because thirdies just made clickfarming bots when YouTube had a pay-per-click ad system
That's why letsplays popped up. Then youtube yanked the rug out from under those, and that will be the end of it.

>>153809367
I’m fine with criticism as long as it’s not people who unironically think the main plot of the game is who Kris fucks

>>153809677
Animation needs its own Steam equivalent.

>>153804972
Terminally online fans are, unfortunately, a necessary evil for keeping online indie projects alive. Independent artists can’t afford conventional advertising so they depend on fan engagement to spread word of mouth. Without that, they can’t get off the ground.

Nobody likes getting dog piled on social media over stupid shit, but those dog pile “controversies” are still PR that gets eyes on the product.

>>153808424
its crazy because I would've labeled that as artistic nudity but tumblr SJW are the same as conservatives apparently. Never mind the fact the artist and author is a fucking woman

>>153812147
Baffling that they were defending the rights of a fictional tree creature while telling a living-breathing woman to kill herself.

Space King should be used as an example of what to focus on for your animated series if you wanna keep out trannies.
I'm not joking about this. You don't have to like Space King, but the flashgitz duo are good at keeping faggots out of their community without directly being antagonistic.

>>153812313
Don't they have a ton of fujos in their audience and the creators have acknowledged that fact?

>>153804972
I read this as "kinda glad Gamecube isn't that popular" and wondered what nintendo did now

>>153804972
Oh wow! It's that fat-fur snake dude I follow!

I must be the weirdo because I wouldn't let this shit affect me if I were making gangbusters like the guys working on Glitch shows are.

>>153804972
>please don't give me attention tee hee :3

>>153809126
nobody said anything about appeasing anyone, but erasing a pre-creative-career history of your internet presence is just a smart idea. When we're younger, we don't really think clearly about the information we post online. Is it really so important to have that available for posterity?
Feel free to leave your youtube comments up, but if you were *actually* bemoaning how impossible it is to track all of them down, that link shows you how to do it.

>>153809196
>Something in me feels like owning this shit as a form of fuck you to everyone.
something in me tells me that you were never worried in the first place. Choosing to leave your ancient internet presence intact is a weird fucking form of protest, but you do you.

>>153810350
man, I'm so with you.
Shit.. do you think that's feasible? Just a centralized video platform for animators that... ... no.. where the fuck would the money come from? Nobody's gonna pay for short cartoons. Steam was basically saying "we understand why you pirate, here's an alternative that makes buying less shitty" but basically animation has only ever worked when supported by merch and/or syndication, and the latter's sure as fuck dead. the former... well, requires a functional economy.

>>153812313
>>153812349
They purposefully put penises in designs for literally everything in their show. It's the gayest show on the internet and the fact that fans can't see that is fucking hilarious.

>>153804972
>>153805024
No. This doesn't make it unviable in any way. If anything, Glitch's successes have shown that indie animations have the potential to be gold mines, despite the rabid fans.

Creators just gotta learn how to stay away from social media. Don't interact with the fans, just give them the content and be done with it. The more you interact, the more disheartened you'll be with it all. This has always been the case, even with non-/co/ related stuff.

Take SW for example, one of the reason why Lucas was done with it was certainly because of the fans.

>>153805177
You sound like a terminally online incel chud obsessed with trannies

>>153812593
Exactly this. I've seen plenty of examples of successful indie shit that pump out content and merch, but just never talk to their fans and they're completely fine.
Just. Don't. Talk. To. Fans.
That easy.
>B-B-But if you're too distant ur stuff will never get off the ground!
There's an audience for everything. Just ensure you're working from a place of passion, not greed.

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>>153804972
qrd? yall keep yapping about brazil, what did they do?

>>153812843
the tadc finale got leaked and apparently the leaker is brazilian

>>153805008
>indies made sure that would happen
Indie fanbase you mean and social media like X and Trannysky

>>153812666
>Just. Don't. Talk. To. Fans.
>That easy.
it's funny how much interacting with fans fucks over creators, even japs who didn't really used to like Gege (Jujutsu kaisen) got depressed by the stuff "fans" were saying about the climax battle or the Gachiakuta one with the shippers who got death threats by some of them just because characters weren't LGBTQ+.
fans are parasites when it comes to interacting with them, just treat them as a cattle and move on

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>>153805177
That's litterally what anons do as well. If something isn't fetish material to their liking anons will hunt down everything about a creator, find flaws, harass them then laugh about it in threads. Where do you think these shitheads learned this behavior from?

>>153809514
If your goal is to get views and not make something you always thought would be cool, sure. Enjoy your soulless slop.

>>153810350
Retarded idea pitched by a retard who hasn’t learned from history. VRV failed miserably. Nobody will pay for indie animation after getting it for free on YouTube. The Ghoul Boys also learned that lesson the hard way.
hi, Zak!

>>153804972
I mean, or creators can learn to be slightly less thin skinned. When your project has a huge supportive fanbase, maybe don't obsess over the people who don't like it?

>>153813213
Not an animation guy since the days of newground's hey-day, but wasn't like 90% of what killed vrv was getting shafted on youtube and google (and everything that has to downstream from them)?
Also the fact that most web animators don't have an actual tv length show in them, even assuming their original idea is good enough for that kind of production
You know not that this is a bad thing, it just doesn't really pay the bills forever, which was never a thing.

>>153812843
Dumb toxo poster

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>>153805177
German board I used to frequent back in the days eventually b& anybody with mental illnesses on sight.
Turned out that they're using online communities as behavioural sinks, which shits up the community and pushes them getting off their asses to get professional help off.

Mind, they also banned any Nazis and maintained the culturally appropriate level of Anti-Americanism.

>>153813140
>harass them
Nah, that's projection on your part, most anons just laugh at people they don't like and post about it here, the ones who harass people are the tumblr, twatter, and reddit rejects who don't belong here in general, hence why it's usually cartoonfags on /co/ or faggy /v/irgins or autistic /vt/ third worlders harassing creators. You don't see harassment campaigns starting on /a/ or /sp/, especially nowadays.

>>153806078
>hbomberguy
>Retsupurae
>Voidburger
>Slowbeef
>Idubbz
>Chapo
>Dril
>Rocco from Mega64
>Mrfeel/loltaku
>Rockcock64
>That Xananax guy from Godot Discord
>Dan Olson
Even Chris Chan went from being a racist homophobe to becoming trans

>>153813528
Not even containment forums like /vp/ are that autistic. Most people here are oldfags with a bad case of the tism andal a wagie job or oldfags with functional autism and a high paying job.
>>153813377
That's the right way of putting it, a behavioral sink in their quest for indulgence and comfort in things most people find repulsive and annoying to deal with, making everyone that doesn't cut their bullshit suffer for it.

>>153808510
aren't the threads about deltarune shit because a janny was caught trying to boink a kid about a year ago when the game came out and they let the topic get taken over by ritual posters that hate the game?

>>153813555
I know several trannies, and they're ALL right wing converts.

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Inflate.

>>153805086
>Grow up. Stop looking for excuses why you're not drawing. Make a comic.
unironically this
the difference between the californian nepo babies and gender queer trannies the average /co/ anon is that they can get a project actually made
>>153805177
this type of behavior existed long before terminally online trannies existed and long before you were born, retard

>>153813213
You can also watch entire video game playthroughs on YouTube. People still buy them.
The problem is animation was literally never profitable unless you were Disney during their Renaissance. All the money comes from merchandising. DVD collections, promotional material, shitty plastic toys. The cartoons are vehicles to peddle this shit. And unfortunately a steam equivalent for animation is dead on arrival because the animation is not the product, so YouTube already does everything you need it to do: advertise your products.

>>153805008
SAARRRRR

>>153813302
VRV wasnt on YouTube. It was a paid service that was a YouTube alternative. You’re probably thinking of Channel Frederator which got fucked over by the algorithm change on YouTube, tried to move over to VRV as an alternative, and almost completely lost all of their viewers because, as it turns out, most people weren’t willing to pay for something they were used to getting for free.

Every once in awhile people get this “brilliant” idea of creating a network just for indie animators or a direct to artist payment, but it will never work. The number of adults who watch animation is too small to support that, let alone the smaller number who would actually pay for it. And if there was a dedicated streaming service, what the fuck would they actually have? There isn’t enough good work out there to populate a whole network, especially when most productions put out, at most, one episode a year.

>>153812531
The dick jokes in the series is not the same thing as what TADC did for it's ending. Nice strawman, faggot.

>>153814410
Watching a video game play through is not the same as actually playing the game. This is a false equivalence.
But yes, the money is/was always in merchandising. That’s one thing Glitch got right. The biggest thing they brought to the table for indies (which they ripped from the mainstream) was having merch ready to go BEFORE the pilot dropped. That way, the pilot comes out, people are excited about it, and they can immediately buy plushies and posters and charms and shit.
Most less successful indies will only get on merchandising weeks after an episode comes out, then they need to crowdfund production, restart PR, and people will have to wait months to get their shit. They lose out on sales because a lot of people who would have made an impulse purchase wisen up by the time they get their shit together.

>>153814481
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?

>>153804972
People need to stop with the "pilot" or "indie cartoon" slop and just make content.
No one did that back in the day, they just made internet cartoons/animations/shorts.
Notice how all the animators doing random videos and not trying to create a series have no weird fanbase and also aren't weird themselves. Everyone trying to shill an indie cartoon almost day one gets a mentally ill fanbase that become hyper obsessed with it and it needing to succeed to pwn imaginary competition epic style.
Also that guy is a pathetic attention whore. Literally who?

>>153808279
>The cat is a dyke
Source?

>>153805008
How long has this "AI is totally gonna take over" going now? 4 or 5 years?

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>>153805177
It's also interesting how it's mostly Women or LGTB creators that are more scrutinized by fandoms, as if they're perceived to be "easier" to make them kneel and bully them or that they're held to a bigger standard than the average dude bro, really makes you think if they're aware of their internalized misogyny.

>>153814617
Some insider leak

>>153813140
>harass them
Making a thread in a taiwanese imageboard that they'll never see or they can just keep scrolling the catalog isn't harrasement

>>153814676
>Women or LGTB creators that are more scrutinized by fandoms
Unironically the main reason why you should always use a male/gender neutral pseudonym

>>153804972
>Is [thing] [adjective] now that [other thing with no correlation]
na

>>153814743
Actual leak or from your dad who works at Glitch

>>153808201
Wrong, they're going to be hanging around anyway because "they're a fan of Glitch" and "they want to support indie animation". Based on what we've seen of future episodes, that female bodyshape discourse isn't going anywhere either. A point will come where Arin or Ross is going to be forced to remark about that.

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>cater erxclusively to deranged trannies and gooners (large venn diagram overlap)
>get upset that you now have to deal with deranged trannies and gooners

>>153812516
They will read the graffiti in the alleys of ancient Rome and know me eternal

>>153812531
Dicks (and crudeness in general) are funny, fag. People have been scrawling dicks onto walls for thousands of years, not one of them thought about getting their shit pushed back in

>>153812946
I heard It was like 8 minutes of the finale but can anyone confirm If It was the whole finale or just a small portion?
Cuz honestly If people are overblowing the situation I won't be surprised

>>153813035
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
The problem is that modern mops are fully convinced theyre actually contributing geeks

>>153809098
Never been in the DALL-E threads cause I already dislike ai and how aifags post shit in other threads I already know what to expect

>>153804972
What exactly IS happening? Autists are mad their ship didn't happen? And?

>>153808201
if they make kit a lesbo with that bootleg zenless Angel of Dilusion looking ass its OVER for it. Unless ross double down on making it extra gooner or just drops a 40K esque episodes which would filter the majority of those people

>>153813140
Have we actually had the balls to hunt down a fucker over the internet and ruin them at any point in the last ten years?

>>153804972
People really need to start ignoring social media.

Why should I be mad? Fanbases finally have power and suddenly that’s a bad thing? You don’t ignore us anymore. Now you can’t ignore us. Fanbase supremacy is in

>>153813377
Sounds about right. Germans shit on other people online then cry they're being persecuted for being Nazis.

>>153815237
You can just turn off social media.

>>153815267
The creators don’t so why should I. That’s the point I’m making here, the creators have assigned themselves as victims so why shouldn’t I play my role? These are my creative slaves and they will obey fandom or die. Otherwise I’ll just make AI slop and entertainment myself that way. Win win

>>153815299
Go and do that Mr Rajesh, enjoy the ai content.

>>153815313
Missing the point. It’s a warning to creatives as a whole. I am the consoomer. I am your lifeblood. I am god

>>153815338
We know Mr Rajesh, you are of a higher caste than others, go and fiddle with your AI.

Remember to close your wallet next time if you are really angry about this kind of stuff happening.

>>153807105
WHY
ARE
YOU
YELLING

>>153814505
>having merch ready to go BEFORE the pilot dropped. That way, the pilot comes out, people are excited about it, and they can immediately buy plushies and posters and charms and shit.
This simply can't work in a risk-adverse, economy-gutted world. Very few indie producers can afford to shell out money on merchandising something that isn't guaranteed to be a hit. Glitch took a complete shot in the dark and they got lucky. Most people will not get lucky and end up in a financial hole because now they're sitting on stock they paid premium for that will never sell.

>>153815423
BECAUSE YOU WON'T FUCKING GET OUT OF MY CAR

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>>153814565
>just make content
>C O N T E N T
slop slurper detected. Just consume AI gens, video essayists, and let's plays like good little content consuming piggy

>>153815428
That’s the risk you need to take. It’s not an option anymore, merch is key and everyone needs to have it now

>>153814646
yeah bro. You can just use SORA to gen whatever vids you want.

>>153814743
>>153814831
It was from some teenaged ginger who claims to have inside sources on a discord or some shit and teases insider info on Twitter. If his info is actually legit, we'll supposedly learn more about her lesbianism in episode 3. I guess time will tell how legit that is.

>>153815431
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN UBER

>>153805459
Often both simultaneously

>>153813035
>>153815100
>just treat them as a cattle and move on
Easier said than done.
Unfortunately these days in order to get any sort of eyes on your work, you need to put in more time responding to comments and shit. However, the more you directly communicate with people, the more parasocial they become.
I think people look at creators who have gotten really popular and forget that for the entire time leading up to that point they were just some kid who drew in the margins of notebooks. One moment you're just putting stuff on the internet for fun and chatting with people on social media, and the next people are DMing you and insisting that you owe them something and going through old posts to try to find something controversial.
There's no real moment when creators just know they can't use social media like everyone else does anymore.

>>153814646
How long for Indie?

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>>153809282
>B. Had an account lusting toward a 2hoes loli
Based

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>NCS about to ragequit too
fug

>>153804972
None of them want to say what it really is because they themselves fall under the label, but it's catering to the social justice crowd. I'm not even anti-woke, I'll watch shit like TADC all day long, but the main culprit when fandoms do awful shit are the people of pronouns trying to bully your employees to suicide because something something black people ICE Gaza Ukraine who cares. Oney and Smiling Friends never had these problems because they don't pander to that crowd, SF was killed by pure creative burn out which is the ideal way to go so the show doesn't get a zombie legacy.

>>153815852
>Glitch merch sold in Hot Topic
>Skibidi Toilet merch sold in Wal-Mart
>Hazbin on Amazon
>TADC on Netflix
>Murder Drones on Amazon
>TADC getting mainstream theatrical release
>Skibidi Toilet optioned for blockbuster film directed by Michael Bay
>Disney creator making series with indie production company
It's already happening, desu.

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>>153815994
>Skibidi Toilet
You know, forget I ever asked.

>>153815431
you are not to yell at me

>>153815099
It was the whole thing, I watched it on kiwifarms. But it's in brazilian with no english subs so I had to guess what was happening from visual implications.

>>153815966
TADC has a MUCH more autistic fanbase. The bright colors, childish designs, circus theme, etc, are all appealing to the mega-spergs who are comparatively easy to convert into being super fans, but will also be the type to react inappropriately. Think Chris Chan with the sonic arms - most fans of Sonic the Hedgehog might notice the difference and maybe make a sarcastic remark about it or something. Chris defaced public property and maced an employee.

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>>153805475
You really should not be unnerved, the idea that they have power is mostly because people cave because they are worried about issues in funding and not getting into “the big leagues” but if you have a reliable fanbase that is not just full of pathological culture warriors who want everything to be queer time all the time then they are nothing. What you really need to watch out for is them taking over major places of discussion by gunning for mod positions. They mainly do that as a way to stifle any “wrong think” and push their own idea what the show/game/movie/comic its story, themes, and characters are actually about and ban anyone who disagrees and make it into some massive irony poisoned gay circlejerk. 4chan doesn’t really have the problem, aside from shitcord raiders and /co/umblrfags throwing their tantrums and doing damage control. At most they can become jannies but getting banned on here isn’t anything to fuss over.

>>153816123
Someone uploaded it to Archive with hardcoded EN subs.
https://archive.org/details/dc-tla-brazil-accessibility-reference-render-ref-1
Actually, LOTS of people uploaded this.

>>153816036
I'm not super happy about that specific IP either anon, but there's tons of non-indie stuff I dislike that was popular as well like Big Mouth.

NCS seems alright but I can’t help but disregard a lot of what people like her are saying, because as another anon said, most of this shit is just gonna blow over in a month. It’ll just be one of those things that’s brought up once or twice when talking about the legacy of TADC, and that’s it

>>153816173
It does suck for everyone who worked on this that this got leaked. Regardless of how people feel about it, I think the crew deserved to be able to get proper first and fresh reactions to their finale.

>>153816236
It was bound to happen sooner or later, just like it did with Spindlehorse. Weirdly, not even Vivziefags were this hostile to leaks.

>>153814973
There isn't a single /co/rtoon that caters to "gooners"

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>>153805177
I was originally going to call you retarded, but then I remembered the time the Netflix Voltron team held that contest to fans for a private tour of the production office, and the fat dyke girl took a bunch of pictures in secret and leaked them in order to hold the show hostage to force them to make her gay ship canon and how much hell and legal trouble she caused in the name of lgbt rights so you might be on to something.

>>153807105
>unless you were on /soc/ or /cgl/
And those boards are dog shit. Specially /cgl/ midwest gulls literally drove like 3 people to suicide and have been mocking their deaths even though they caused them.

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>>153816587
>Netflix Voltron team held that contest to fans for a private tour of the production office, and the fat dyke girl took a bunch of pictures in secret and leaked them in order to hold the show hostage to force them to make her gay ship canon

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>>153816775
I'm just gonna post the AI summery, but there where more as well all tied to LGBT people and wanting their gay ships and characters canon.

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>>153816872
They should've just made Klance canon.

>>153817058
Keith and Lance are generic in looks and personality. They weren’t worth the drama.

>>153809098
Those threads were always the same handful of autists circlejerking with their slop, they still are.

>>153816872
How the hell does a Power Rangers show get this pozzed a following?

>>153804972
I'm getting tired of every creator believing that they're above any and all criticism just because they're "indie" (as if they wouldn't happily abandon being indie the nanosecond an offer is made).
People need to start bullying lolcows again.

>>153815828
>Unfortunately these days in order to get any sort of eyes on your work, you need to put in more time responding to comments and shit
Yeah that's a good point. Maybe the ideal is to just answer and interact the bare minimum, just to get people interested enough, but without giving them the idea you are somehow intimate or friends with them or something.

>>153815966
>None of them want to say what it really is because they themselves fall under the label, but it's catering to the social justice crowd
That's true too. Whenever you draw the attention of that crowd, madness ensues. Do not ever cater to them, they cannot be satisfied, ever. It will never be enough, so to hell with them.

>>153815450
>>153814646
I'm not watching any of that shit if it does come out. The only stuff I actually somewhat sat through was short ones that were clearly made as shitpost jokes and not to be taken seriously like the Epstein vs Diddy fight.

But on the other side of things, I kept seeing this Vtuber called Leaflit generate AI garbage out the ass like a middle aged facebook mom and she was genuinely expecting people to take it seriously or watch it like someone would a normal handcrafted video or whatever the fuck, and her friends and audience just supports her on that shit. I did not even bother giving a click to any of said AI gen'd videos, just completely ignored.

It's crazy to me how we get to the point where people are actually trying to get you to "feel" something out this shit or try to make some sort of big statement using AI. It does nothing to me but ends up looking insincere an worthless since if you truly had something you stand for or believe it's worth talking about, you'd actually put human effort into showcasing it, not prompting that shit out and have the AI speak for you instead.

>>153804972
I was a forerunner of deciding that fans these days aren’t worth having and they should seek to improve themselves before anything else.

I’d rather be a medieval knight traveling beautiful countrysides and slaughtering Muslims than a cartoon creator with screaming mental cases who think it’s my real job to give them a social life they enjoy.

>>153814446
Man, here I was thinking I got a good reply and out the gate the point was misunderstood, bummer.

>>153806817
Nigga thought he was about to drop The End of Evangelion. He was holding the finale of Game of Thrones.

>>153817327
>People need to start bullying lolcows again
You say this like we ever stopped. Lolcows gaining positions of power or somehow becoming rich doesn't mean we stopped.

>>153805971
When a right-wing incel grifter tries to talk about his culture war slop, he's instantly flooded with spam, banned on sight amd purged from the community.
We need to reserve the same treatment to other toxic elements of fanbases.

>>153804972
Oh look. New cope for not drawing just dropped! Score!

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>>153805177
>not the boogeyman incels
I feel like you guys are conveniently leaving out the Sharty which regularly makes calls to doxx artists who end up under the spotlight on Twitter. They're not always successful but they sometimes dig up personal information which is basically reposted on Twitter and then saved by people with a personal vendetta.

>>153815196
/co/ is the last board that should be playing innocent about this shit. I've been in Tamers threads where anons dump location info about the guy and I'm pretty sure he referenced it in one of his horse cartoons.

This is also the same board that tried to find the home address of James Bear's girlfriend Claire when there was a whole Twitter callout regarding those two back in 2020. It was like that shit that happened on /lit/ where some retards were briefly obsessed with a YouTube channel owned by a woman reviewing books except they didn't go the extra mile of trying to narrow down where her neighborhood was.

>>153817985
>I feel like you guys are conveniently leaving out the Sharty which regularly makes calls to doxx artists who end up under the spotlight on Twitter.
Anon, shartyfags are just terminally online teenagers, they're the more racist version of the online twatter tranny teenagers. Just look at that one autist who was a fan of that Dutch indie cartoon who shot up a mosque a few days ago, that person was a shartyfag but was also a literal tranny.

Animation is a ton of work, there's no point in drawing all that just to become a lolcow

>>153817985
>NOOO BUT YOU GUYS DO THE SAME THING U DOX PEOPLE TOO SO IT'S OK IF WE DO IT
Stop this, or people will not create anymore.

>>153814676
I didn't notice this at first but now with this pointed out and in hindsight... yes, it's this. Announcing or having it revealed that you're a woman or a fag in any capacity. They won't touch a perceived man because they know you don't care, won't bend the knee, or can't be physically assaulted without some danger to themselves.
A woman or a fag, however, is easy prey. Tragic. Don't be a woman or a fag if you're gonna create.

>>153804972
Indy was never the future of animation. AI was always the direction.

>>153819606
>Indy was never the future of animation.
It belongs in a museum.

>>153804972
same bro, I'm not working on my craft because uhhh....
internet toxicity

never watched a second of these autistic cartoons, its interesting to see people catering to the mentally ill and then crying about the repercussions. im sure on some level theyre aware but still miscalculate the overall damage, also trannies in general like to put themselves into positions where they get hurt, just to feel something and to make themselves a victim.

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Inflate.

Who's going to make the earthbound inspired style over substance panic attack cartoons if people on twitter keep being mean?

Someone give me the tldr, there's 50 threads on this subject and I feel I should be entitled to have an opinion about it.

>>153823618
10 years ago the voice actor for jax voiced a character who said the n word so now people are refunding their tadc movie tickets

>>153823618
artists are just now realizing the repercussions of making content that appeals to terminally online fags instead of normal people

>>153823618
Marxist Leninists on twitter are mad that they're releasing the finale in theaters early

>>153805008
AI might seem like will win because the majority of normies are barely sentient pigs who don't care about things on an intellectual level, they just eat whatever is shat out in their trough. These are the people whose only thought that cuts through the foggy static in their minds is "i need to buy the new call of duty game".

But in order to do that, you need to displace these same exact people to build data centers, and make them uncomfortable enough to where they revolt. Even pigs and chimps have a breaking point. If they just built the data centers making the next Call of FIFA: Fag Wars MAGA Theft Auto 6 in the middle of nowhere, nobody would care and they'd get away with it.

But that would be expensive, and the world is run by very stupid people who would rather risk societal breakdown than spending a few (relative) pennies more at proper world domination.

It will be interesting things.

>>153805177
They aren't the actual transgenders or homosexuals, but middle-upper class white women looking to absolve their guilt and privilege. Or crossdressers who don't actually have gender dysphoria or same-sex attraction. You would be shocked at how few legitimate homosexuals and transsexuals there are these days. Their communities were gentrified by normies. Just like what happened to the internet and 4chan.

>>153814676
You’re posting on a board that’s 40% constant anti-woman, anti-lgbt astroturf sludge and you think the reason those creators get harassed is because all the lgbt profiles doing the same thing in namespace are real people? I have some Polymarket leads to sell you.

>>153814676
>as if they're perceived to be "easier" to make them kneel and bully
Well... they are. Pull the most bullshit, far-fetched racism accusation on a white liberal woman and she'll immeidately fold.

>>153805177
Don't forget that GLOWIES are among them and they even FUND them to give them more power. ALWAYS blame the JEWS because THEY'RE ALWAYS BEHIND THOSE THINGS

>>153805008
Oh boy more cat, dog videos and maybe we get some fruit. And they're all pregnant now oh no they're poor and pregnant and then they win the lottery uh oh I just told you the greatest AI storyline ever created.

>>153812843
>>153812946
Based hue

>>153815439
Weird way to interpret my post then get butthurt over your imagination.
I obviously didn't advocate for any of that.

>>153815439
And when I said make content I'm not referring to frequency. I'm talking about making a variety of different animations about different things and not trying to put all effort into a single, doomed to fail indie cartoon like Monkey Wrench.