I aspire to do the same.

>>153805068
Pretty much trannies in a nutshell

>the stewie griffin bunny prick got rekt
Based. Thanks for humiliating the representation of your deadname, Goose.

jax is the average safe-edgy discord douche

>>153805068
>his character development
Did I watch a different show? What character development?
I thought the whole point of him was that his character didn't develop at all was unwilling to change.

>>153805767
>Jax trying to cheer up Pomni and get her to accept her situation, flawed as his thinking was, didn't count.
>Jax getting upset that Ragatha would bring up Ribbit didn't count.
>Jax getting upset that Ragatha called him a bad person who was trying to corrupt Pomni didn't count.
>Jax being sad that his friends abstracted didn't count.
>Pomni correctly identifying that the reason Jax acts like an asshole is because he's afraid he's gonna lose more friends and his mask really comes from a place of hurt love didn't count.
>Jax feeling sincerely touched that Gangle and Zooble were willing to forgive him for the button shit and then trying to play it cool so they don't worry about him abstracting didn't count.
>Jax going along with the date with Caine idea didn't count.
>Jax purposefully going to get tortured by Caine for the others didn't count.

Yes, you didn't watch the same show.

>>153805068
Look up the literary definition of "Tragedy", OP.

>>153805068
Is Jax supposed to be a rabbit?

>>153805777
I mean, even through all those scenarios, he did his best to keep his mask up, he never genuinely let himself change and be 100% vulnerable to anyone.

>>153805068
>dies
He's a fishdog now.

>>153805788
Tragedy's are supposed to be well written, and not undo all the character development that a character goes through for a cheap emotional moment.
>>153805811
He let himself be vulnerable around Pomni and the crew several times in those instances. He flat out trusted them enough to go and get tortured by Caine so they could distract him. Fuck, even in the movie, he was about to say something before stopping himself and going off to abstract completely off-screen. The movie threw away all of his development and potential for change for no reason other than having a cheap sad moment.

>>153805850
You're such a child dude lmfao

>>153805068
It definitely feels like all the Ribbit and Kaufmo backstory was a last minute retcon, with him threatening Ragatha to tell nobody about it being part of it as well. It turned him from the dickhead jester into an actual fucked up psychopath/retard that actually deserved his fate.

>>153805883
>Y-you don't accept a shitty, poorly written ending? Y-you're such a child! LMAO

>>153805811
But he was getting there.
He still went along on the Escape adventure in 7 instead of abstracting and helped a lot, even if he couldn't bring himself to act like part of the group.
He didn't fight against Pomni showing concern for him the way he did with Ribbit.
He walked away from Zooble's concern in 7, but stayed in 8.
When Zooble showed concern in 8 he covered for himself, but when Pomni did it more blatantly later he simply acknowledged her concern without arguing.
And then in 9, despite being at peak hopelessness and peak self-hatred for having just lashed out at the group, he directly approached Pomni, unprompted, wanting to include himself and help out with the rebuild. He just got cold feet, feeling too worthy of rejection to go forward without reassurance. And for the first time, for no reason other than "the plot needed it" she didn't meet him halfway, so he walks away and fucking dies offscreen.

>>153805921
You're crying about a CGI cartoon. Are you going to bitch about Paw Patrol next?

>>153805068
Actually him being a massive irredeemable cunt whose very presence makes everything worse and everyone’s lives would be substantially better if he was dead is completely in line with his character throughout the show.

>>153806014
>Dude I entered into a thread about something I don't like and now I'm mad! How can this be?!

>>153805777

OOOOOH BABY

>>153806014
>Heh you’re talking about animations on an animation board kid

>>153805777
>>153805068
>>153805850
>noooo my fave comfort character didn't get a good ending and instead had a realistic bad one like the writing said he would from day 1!!!!

>>153806214
>It's le realistic!
Do you defend The Last Jedi too?

>>153805883
>no argument

>>153806214
>like the writing said he would from day 1!!!!
The writing clearly didn't show that, as
>>153805777
>>153805974
explain

>>153806276
There was always one way out for Jax. He's too broken to let himself be happy.
Abstraction isn't death anyway. It kind of looked like it could be fixed even.

>>153806299
Too bad that the entire final episode was an hour long death scene where they never even began to start explaining what abstraction is and if people can be brought back

jax getting his character development undone is... SUBVERSIVE
jax abstracting off screen is... SUBVERSIVE
jax becoming a literal dog is... SUBVERSIVE

>>153805974
>He still went along on the Escape adventure in 7 instead of abstracting and helped a lot, even if he couldn't bring himself to act like part of the group
Seriously if you're about to die and you're only this piece of shit who wants to torture everyone why would you help them like this? Another thing is before helping them in episode 7 he doesn't even fight back against zooble coming to fuck with him as if they switched roles.

>>153806375
Caine tortures everyone much worse than jax ever did but he gets forgiven and allowed a happy ending.

>>153806330
Did you find a good translation for the episode or is it just the same trash everyone else seems stuck watching for now?

>>153806438
Same shit everyone else watched. Not a single time was abstraction explained or a way to undo it even brought up

You can make believe that Pomni was close to undoing abstraction on Jax until he got blown the fuck up by the rest of the characters

>the show about a bunch of npcs raging over the npc and his shitty npc adventures
I'm tired of meta subtext writing

>>153806403
For real. Jax kills himself because his fear of being exposed fucks him up so bad. Then after he kills himself, Pomni wrenches the poor kid open, watches his entire downward spiral and rubs it in his face. He lives to regret and fear dying, confronting that his entire spiral was pointless and everyone cared, which only makes him feel more guilty, but he just hates himself so much that he couldn't let that care in because he couldn't trust it and didn't feel like he deserved it. And then he dies in complete panic.
...And then Caine just fucking appears like "I've decided that actually I'm alive and also you all forgive me and that everything's cool now!"

sooo can they not just unabstract everyone if theyre like
coded copies?
the way they went about jaxs development is so insane to me
>have him slowly develop show progress bit by bit
>its clear thats he only like 50% the way there
>the whole caine is an evil authoritarian thing completely fucks with his mind
>blah blah he abstracts OFFSCREEN(what)
>we get to go in his mind and see how him being a repper(what the fuck) led to both of his friends commiting suicide

who the fuck writes a character like this
am I insane?
this is such an unsatisfying ending

>>153806403
to be fair, caine genuinely didn't know any better
jax is 100% aware of how he was treating everyone

>>153806290
He quite literally said "The character I liked died so I am mad". There was no actual disputing that Jax' fate is meant to be tragic, a character losing everything can only be meaningful if he's developed beforehand, ergo, it's not wasted. "It's not well written because I don't like it" is not an argument. There's nothing to argue against, it's a tantrum.

>>153806674
Several people have already given the exact argument for why it's badly written. You just have no argument against it.
>>153806625
>>153806587
>>153805974
>>153805850
You just aren't able to refute any of them.

>>153806625
If they're digital copies kept in computer files, why wouldn't Caine just make back ups or copies of their brain files in case they abstract?

>>153806674
>can only be meaningful if he's developed beforehand,
Yeah, and his development made it seem as though he was beyond the point of abstracting and slowly starting to trust other people more. Yet, the ending threw all of that away just for the "heckin sad jax abstracting" moment. It's godawful, dogshit writing.

>>153806028
>irredeemable
>Goes off to sacrifice himself to Caine to buy them some time
lol

>>153805068
such is the fate of all of us

>>153805068
I don't think that part was bad, but Pomni not noticing his last ditch attempt at reaching out and ignoring him when he turned away instead of encouraging him was OOC as fuck, then we just get
>Oh no Jax abstracted off screen while I was busy narrating!

That was the big fumble.

goosetranny is such a talentless hack kek. shit show with awful pacing, a bunch of stolen ideas and a garbage ending. bravo glitch. so glad i didnt pay to see that garbage in theatre

>>153805098
SPBP

>>153806028
More so than the tragic situation itself, I really find it disturbing how quickly people jumped on the idea of Jax being irredeemable simply because Goose said he was a bad person. As if "bad" was a complete moral indictment of his character that marked him as deserving of suffering despite his underlying issues, rather than a simple statement that he wasn't as neutral or well-meaning as Pomni or Gangle.

>>153805907
Yeah I didn't even like the guy but what he did to Ribbit for no fucking reason is pretty insane.

>>153806801
>he was beyond the point of abstracting
How
He was practically numb in the beginning of Episode 8

>>153807165
Should've been a 12 episode series. Ruined the idea by going the Soma route instead of having them an option to undo the damage Caine created by hinting that he might've manipulated their minds(which leads nowhere in the finale) All for these characters to be stuck without any resolution. Holy shit glitch should've worked on a long term solution to this garbage writing.

>>153806673
Caine did in fact know better. He was purposely torturing them until he got bored

>>153807681
Bubble was intoxicating him

>>153807573
When Zooble showed concern in 8 he covered for himself, but when Pomni did it more blatantly later he simply acknowledged her concern without arguing.

>>153805068
He trooned and then he ACKed!
And then everyone was happy.
The end.

>>153805068
Two bitchy lesbians chatting about the hedgehog's dilemma in Evangelion covered Jax's entire character arc and personality in less than five minutes. What an overblown trope of a character.

>>153806214
>>153805883
>>153805767
Jax dying doesn't match up with his arc. His death essentially reverses all the character development that he went through and decided to have him get killed off for a cheap emotional moment.

Was Jax killing himself predictable/hinted at? Sure. But at the same time just because it was foreshadowed doesn't mean it's good writing. "Suicidal character kills themselves for the greater good" trope aside, it also just flat out erases any possibility of Jax being made to take accountability for how he treated the other circus members, especially Gangle. Feeling remorse ≠ accountability. Like idk, it just feels like the whole sacrifice thing was just a cheap way to go "don't worry guys! Jax learned he was wrong and is now so selfless that he gave up his life for the others!" without actually giving him a proper "redemption" arc.

It's just bad writing, simple as that. Why give him the ability to change and then just fucking rip it all away for no reason?

What kind of message is this sending to the audience? Even if you try and improve yourself, you'll inevitably end up dying anyway because you just weren't born the right way? Nothing about this death is satisfying from a thematic or character standpoint.

>>153805068
English leak today

Jax was learning his lesson and Pomni was more assertive than Ribbit. She wouldnt have let him pull her under even if he wanted to, which he didn't. Obviously he hated his role in what had transpired before. despite this Ragatha used Jax as a scapegoat in every situation, even hypothetical ones she made up in her head.

Jax was 75% of the way to genuinely apologizing to the gang but we'll never get that now because fuck human redemption in this story i guess.

>>153809769
Chat is this true?

>>153809833
Jax died because we're not actually supposed to sympathize with him upon the reveal that they're just brainscans, programs in a machine. Graduated NPCs.
The real Jax is outside and living a happy life.
It's kind of a weird inverse to IHNMAIMS's ending.

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Getting really sick of this shit happening

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>>153809993
there's an entire world of stories about flawed people doing evil things and getting away with it that you simply haven't explored.

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Something i really hate in this show, specially at the end is that they present ideas that never get the time around to cook them properly or commit to them...

Abstraction is suppose to be a vague representation of suicide and going insane beyond repair...and for the most part the concept was lef alone, but then in the last episode pomni all of the sudden knew for some reason that she could enter Jax´s mind and...stop the abstraction? then when she failed she puts him in a tent...why?? if its irreversible why not put him with the rest? also they are all software and have pretty much inmortality, infinite time to waste and caine´s powers...why not try to fix abstraction? or recreate them again from the code using another computer, its not like i want them to do it, but the fact that no one ever says at least a line with "we will find a cure one day" or something, and just like that, they are going to the beach in the end credits makes me think that they just stopped caring...

>>153810440
Aside from pomni, Jax is pretty much the face of the show, its obvious that Glitch wanted the door open to use him again if they feel like it

>>153810440
they should have at least hinted at the mind palace with kaufmo attacking pomno in the pilot or ANYTHING.
There's so much material they left in for no reason other than to serve as foreshadowing. They don't use any of it and WORSE they just decide to make up new bullshit out of nowhere.

>>153805068
>I didn't expect that. yikes!
such is life

>>153809744
>Even if you try and improve yourself, you'll inevitably end up dying anyway because you just weren't born the right way?
That is literally the whole point of the transgender ideology, Anon. Goose-guy didn't insert that shit message for nothing.

Is the concept of a tragedy just dead now? If a character has flaws they have to own up to them and talk about how they're gonna be better in the future or else there was no point to the story?

To effectively write a character like this you need to write someone complicated enough to have been detestable upon first interactions, but enough redeeming qualities that have always existed but were concealed until a later point.

You can’t write your edgy bastard, designed intentionally to revel in being a dick and make the audience like him aesthetically on the premise that he’s an evil fucker, and then make some sob story that he stubbed his toe and then pivot into pressuring the audience to feel bad for him. He’s either an edgesink or an anti-hero and these wacky deviantart animators want both.

>even in abstraction at least somewhat made peace with it all thanks to pomni, save his immense regret that he had to let all of it get so bad
>jax, the non-fable one, is explicitly given a happy ending outside of the circus with ->>>two friends<<<- he can rely on and a path forward to piano, expressing himself more freely, making peace with other people and himself
It's pointless to even seriously talk about when everyone is drunk on fandom, but I really don't get it.
I'm not saying there is no workable nice ending where Jax is saved from abstraction through an extended melodrama and joins the Circus' happy end, but this one is nicer. You get a dual neutral end and the good one, and the good one is given primacy.

Alright spoil the movie for me pretty please

>>153812417
My brother in christ, it's only an hour long, and both the video file and fan captions are all over the Internet Archive, and our own archives.

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>>153805068
Just don't be a dick to others and yourself, bunny boy.

>>153810440
Someone in another thread said something about how the mind palace is a temporary thing and the Jax fragments going poof was symbolizing it falling apart, which would mean older abstractions would already be too far gone. Sounds like as good an explanation as any but I'm still not sure if Jax could've possibly been pulled back from the brink if he hadn't freaked out. It would be fucked up if he was just doomed the whole time and Pomni showed up just to make him panic before his brain disintegrated.

>>153812487
>fan captions
Mind dropping a link? Watching with autogenerated subs was less than comprehensible at times.

>>153812417
Jax commits ego death because he's too bitch made to own up to his shitty behavior and apologize for it.

>>153805777
You copy pasted this shit in every fucking thread for the last three days... and it's been complete bullshit every fucking time. 90% of this is completely in your fucking head.

>>153807681
Caine has the virtual equivalent of a brain tumor.
Jax is just an asshole.

the key to the whole show is a whole show
hey cosgrove how come you're married meat you were gay

>>153812315
I mean the fact that a lot of people are having meltdowns about how he didn't deserve it proves you're wrong. People liked him, just because you didn't doesn't mean anything.

Dumb fuck.

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>>153812914
He might be Stolasfag who overdosed on copium the instant he overheard that his bunny bitchboy has shrivelled up and died.

>>153812538
A bit too late for that now, N.

>>153809993
kills litterally everyone because haha silly idiot

I don't know what people were expecting, it's not like at any point the show had good writing. It was all in the animation style and le toy characters.

It's very obvious that Goose's master plan was to vaguepost the movie came out and then do the "lolol I'm such a troll" shtick once the embargo lifted. The fact that he's been robbed of that is what he's so sad about, not the blowback or the drama. He wanted to be the internet's main character for the day

>>153806214
>like the writing said he would from day 1!!!!
Jax was written like a comic relief that wouldn't get an arc at all in Episode 1, what are you talking about?

>>153813427
He got outtrolled by Brazilians lmao

>>153809846
Grok is this true?

Any of you who sympathize with Jax are just wolves in sheep's clothing who wish to dump responsibility onto others and avoid accountability. Jax got what was coming to him, and you all will too if you don't stop being cunts. No one is coming to 'save you', no one is obligated to save you. Your actions are yours and yours alone; no one forced you to be, act, or do anything. How you act is always your choice and no one else.

>>153806673
>jax is 100% aware of how he was treating everyone
Was he? Because pretty much the only possible point of sympathy Gooseworx left for Jax is that Jax didn't realize just how badly he was hurting others. If you take that away from him, then Jax was just a monster with no redeeming qualities that should have gotten killed much earlier, and that doesn't sound like "grey morality" as Gooseworx insisted on.

>>153814118
I sympathized with him when he was just a Cartman/Master Shake, but after he became the Le Sad Tranny, I longed for his abstraction...

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Well? what was it?

>>153814204
Killing two people and knocking out his mother

>>153814204
Being mean to Ribbit

>>153814204
Taking the Blue Pill.

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Jax was handled surprisingly great. There was never any development for him. His character was fundamentally flawed, he pushed away everyone who tried to help him and died alone. His downfall is 100% deserved, it's his own doing and it's the only logical conclusion of his character.
He is a tragic character, he's the juxtaposition to the rest of the cast who embraced each other's company and opened up. He should be a warning.
You realize not every character has to LE DEVELOP and writing is not exclusively following the single template that midwit youtube video essayists treat as gospel?

>>153814204
It's supposed to be the snowy mountain scene, pretty sure.

>>153814118
I sympathize with him. That doesn't mean I approve of his being an asshole.

>>153805068
Good. He was too tall for my liking. I don't like tall characters because I'm 5´8 and I can't self insert as them.

>>153812417
Everyone freaks out that Caine is dead and the world is broken and stomp off in different directions.
Everyone regains optimism but Jax, who abstracts offscreen.
Pomni somehow knows how to infiltrate his mind and does it.
Discovers Jax is actually the one who caused Ribbit and Kaufmo to abstract, not the other way around, and that Jax's problem is that he's gay and/or trans and pushed his mother over it.
Jax fucking dies for good but not before Pomni manages to make him regret it and spend his last seconds of consciousness having the biggest panic attack of all.
Meanwhile Caine expelled the other AI from himself and became good.
Comes back and apologizes for torturing everyone.
Everyone lives happily ever after, they put Jax's abstracted form in a tent with a collar like a doggy and Kinger's wife in an aquarium and make a zoo out of the abstracted people.

>>153806227
yes, sorry you aren't intelligent enough to understand what RJ was trying to accomplish (and succeeded at)

>>153814337
This is completely accurate (unfortunately)

>>153814358
I just reread my own post and I'm in shock I really got to type that shit out and be accurate.
I'm doubly shocked that there are people around defending this fucking dire miscarriage of an ending.

>>153809993
Stop self-inserting as incels then

>>153814337
no fucking way

>>153814337
>Jax's problem is that he's gay and/or trans and pushed his mother over it
People like this poster will get butthurt when somebody whispers "media literacy" to them.

>>153814386
I left out a couple details but yes, that's the strictest retelling of events possible. Like Jax thinking he might have killed his mother with the push but Ribbit immediately goes "that makes no sense and you're panicking over nothing". Or Caine reveals they're all copies and shows their irl selves on the internet but nobody minds.

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>>153814416
Kinger tells them at the start of the episode so they already get their crying out. But the "nobody minds" part yeah. Realistically I'm not sure I'd want to find out like that.

>>153814416
oh wow it really was SOMA

>Get served strawberry ice cream
>Get mad that its not chocolate
>"This ice cream is shit!"
This is typical autism.

>>153812934
A cop out way to give Caine an instant redemption

Caine objectively did worse than Jax but didn't get turned into a white woman's sex slave dog

Jax's problem is he can't open up to anyone, because he grew up with an abusive mother who used all his character flaws against him regularly.
His problem is he opened up to Ribbit, but then mind raped himself into believing it's a mistake and she is going to use it fuck with him somehow and tell his story to everyone. Because he is traumatized by his mother who did the same. He never got to reconcile his mental issues, as opposed to his real self who never got into circus and had a chance to work his way out of it.
Not that he is "gay" or "trans" which is your headcanon you mind broken retarded motherfucker.
I feel so bad for Goose, the guy accidentally created perfect autistmal mouth breathing tard magnet and is doomed to have to read the worst opinions on his show.

>>153814273
That was it? He just told Ribbit to fuck off and was too much of a pussy to apologize

>>153805068
This is fake Jax anyway, real Jax is doing fine.

>>153814337
>Jax's problem is that he's gay and/or trans
If this is actually what happens, this show is irredeemable

>buh pomni didnt ask jax to help
Fuck that shit. People shouldn't keep doing everything for the fucker.

>>153814453
In my defense, I watched it in portuguese, so I missed out Kinger saying it.

And also what the fuck Kinger, why didn't you say it earlier. Why is apparently Middenhall Manor the first time in 20 years that Kinger was placed in a dark spot and he still didn't take the chance to say it.

>>153810440
the tent thing like her shooting the lights weas a callback to ep3 about kingers wife getting calmer in the dark
the tent is just a mega pillowfort

>>153812914
The worst is the fucker who keeps spamming a Twitter post.

Did you really believe they wouldn't shit their pants in the final stretch? No one knows how to end shit anymore.

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ngl, they werent hard enough on him. him existing as a lobotomized dog was too good for him given he literally neglected his two friends to death because "HOW DARE YOU ASK ME A PERSONAL QUESTION AND ME GIVING YOU A PERSONAL ANSWER I'M GONNA IGNORE YOU FOREVER" and causing two people to abstract because he basically fucking completely cut them out of his life out of spite. Genuinely, he basically passively murdered two people, he's such a shitstain.

Oh was this all written by a tranny? Actually that's pretty funny because everything makes sense now.

>>153814669
I mean yeah, 41%, but how many of those actually successfully end it?

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>>153814703

>>153814703
Not only that, but said tranny has openly admitted that Jax is his self insert onto whom he projects all of his mental problems and insecurities.

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>>153805068
Jaxfags lost. GummiGODS won.

>>153814720
Goddamn you could cut diamonds with that chin

>>153805974
>>153806375
Jax was really changing, he regretted how he'd treated people, and was avoiding them so he wouldn't hurt them anymore. This was huge development.

Jax surviving and having to live with what he had done, having to face the people he hurt, that would have been a far better ending

>>153814740
Gummigoo didn't win anything, he wasn't a factor at all.
Nobody has fucking won in the slightest. The only character that mattered at all was Jax and everyone would rather he hadn't, including Jaxfags. I really don't see how anyone can possibly be claiming victory from this train wreck, we've ALL lost.

"I'm going to take drastic action and fix everything by getting myself killed in the process" coming from an edgy outcast is school / mass shooter mentality. As if we didn't need more affirmation that troons have a higher tendency to do so.

>>153814798
>Zooble feeling immense guilt for the flashbangs killing Jax
>Gangle finally getting the courage to confront Jax and never getting the chance
>Ragatha living with the guilt of being unable to help Jax and making so many bad choices in handling his emotional distress despite being so much older
>Kinger watching someone he's known for 8 years die the same way his wife died
>Pomni watching someone she cared for, someone she saw was hurting and reached out to help, die and second guessing everything she did forever, wondering if just once choice to let him walk away that last time killed him

Jax should have been saved when everyone entered the Abstraction to retrieve Pomni, and he had to come to terms with the people he hurt and pushed away saving him, and confronting his guilt. Instead it's left the others with guilt they didn't deserve.

>>153814826
>Jax before abstraction had been making advances at stopping to be a sucidal dickhead.
>Jax AFTER abstraction regrets it and wants to live and dies in abject terror and despair.

>All of it ended up depending on one single blink and you miss it moment where he puts his hand up to call to Pomni, puts it back down again, and Pomni looks at him like a weirdo.

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>poster heavily implies Jax gets admin like powers before abstracting
>everyone will have to survive a digital circus filled with Jax's mindfuckery, effectively being forced to unabstract him and restore Caine
>in reality they just slowly rebuild the circus
>Caine got brought back on his own
>Gangle/Zooble/Ragatha/Kinger do nothing except for le emotional support
>Jax's actions from ep 7 and 8 are meaningless, no chance at reedeming himself to others (and yes he did say after hugging Pomni that he doesnt want to go before he started hyperventilating, so the "he always wanted to abstract" fags btfo)
>Barely any backstory on Scratch and the first members, the digital mind copies thing was revealed early on and they all moved on quickly from that
It's another case of MGS5 where the posters, trailers and theories ended up being better than the final product. Ep9 should've been 2 hours long if bad writing wasn't involved and if the whole "shoving ep 8 to have it in cinema" wasn't a thing. Also no, i never expected a happy ending, i expected high stakes and got empty carbs in terms of storytelling and character dev.

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>be me
>hear about this new cartoon show
>see the creator is trans
>tell everyone it's going to suck ass
>nobody listens
>it sucks ass
>I am undefeated

>>153814990
>>Gangle/Zooble/Ragatha/Kinger do nothing except for le emotional support
Even Pomni fits that description, she was just simply the pov character to watch Jax's mindfuckery.

>>153815004
*saves*

>>153815027
basically everyone could've just stuck around wand just wait for Caine to return, there was no sense of urgency. Caine getting deleted in ep8 implied the circus was disintegrating so i imagined the main plot point would've been to stop it by accessing some hidden file or shit like that whilst fighting the escaped abstractions and maybe Jax's autism.

>>153814990
>>153815027
>>153815111
The more anons explore this train wreck the worse it gets. I'll always check first if any piece of media is directed or written by a tranny and just blacklist it if the answer is yes, lesson learned, also no more falling for the "this troon is based give it a chance" trick. I'm a dumbass.

Did Gangle dieded IRL?

>>153815389
No, she made her dream webcomic.

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>>153814990
didn't goose talk shit on twitter about how heckin deep and dark and morally grey it's going to be
what the fuck was that all about

>>153814826
>Even in death Jax fucks everyone over

He just can't stop winning bigly.

>>153815485
fr it's literally just
>o no jax abstracted
>oh hey caine's back
and that's fucking it
the whole journey through Jax's mind is just for show because it's already too late and her meddling only makes him feel way worse, and caine just fucking shows up
no one has to make any choices, no problems need to be solved, no characters have resolutions with one another

>>153815389
No she no sold isekai truck

>>153815485
Apparently Goose's definition of "moral grayness" is to make Jax have zero redeeming qualities or excuses for his behavior, die and have everyone be safer for it.

This is some real fucking misery porn.

>>153815635
it's shit
he should have lived, imagine him living with the knowledge that he's a huge piece of shit, and that everyone knows he's a huge piece of shit, and they are still willing to save him because him being a bad person doesn't mean they have to be bad people to him. The enormous guilt, struggling to not be a piece of shit, not escaping to abstraction ego death

>>153815699
At this point I have no idea what I expect from anyone. Kinger revealed he made the circus. Kinger revealed he programmed Caine. Kinger revealed they're all just copies. Kinger accidentally deleted Caine and almost destroyed the circus. Nobody but Jax so much as goes "Kinger what the fuck".

I just flat out feel nobody in the circus even has the capacity for indignation except Jax, and at this point saying something should be more Jax-like is fucking insane because there's nothing good about Jax. So at this point I feel like everyone else could learn Jax is the reason Ribbit and Kaufmo died and it'd get no reaction whatsoever, they'd just ignore it, pretend they didn't hear it.

>>153815699
YES
he literally died never being exposed for who he is in any real way except for Pomni after he was already effectively dead. faced no consequences for anything he did to anyone, none of them getting any absolution about how they were treated and reassurance that it had nothing to do with them

>>153805068
How's a nega gonna undo his character development? Nega is the show being erased?

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>>153815004
Sorry for not heeding your words wise anon.

>>153815699
>>153815741
Jax wasn't a piece of shit he was just traumatized and coping badly which hurt the others. Something the others also did. And the reveal that they have only fake copy minds to go with their fake bodies validates him pretending they're not real people. And he doesn't even go all the way with that as he showed with pomni.

>>153815741
he DESERVED to go through that experience, he deserved to be exposed and have who he is seen by the only person who cared about him, and be completely exposed for being awful, and knowing he was awful, and feeling bad but continuing to be awful

and he also deserved that last chance he begged for because it came with the consequence of being unable to hide behind his mask.

the others deserved Jax's humiliating apology, which they never got

>>153805251
>the representation of your deadname
isn't his name cooper?

>>153816015
He wasn't just awful though and he was right about treating them as not real when they're not real. Caine did worse than jax with less excuse and he gets a better ending than jax.

>>153805068
yes and it was amazing.
Don't be a negative spastic who lashes out at everyone and you won't get the shit ending you deserve. People are really shocked the irredeemable jag off who directly drove someone to suicide is not given a scot free good ending.

>>153815988
i agree that he was traumatized and coping badly, but he was also awful.

>Jax needed rape correction!!!!!
sickos can fuck off

Jax needed a real adult, he's 22, a young adult, going through something awful compounding on his existing trauma. And the closest he got was Pomni, who managed to make him a better person within just a few interactions. Ragatha, being 30, should have been able to help Jax become a better person and overcome these issues. She literally watched him collapse over years and did nothing to help him, actively sabotaging his connection with Pomni.

>>153816068
>he was right about treating them as not real
Effectively if everyone understood this from the beginning there would have been less abstractions because they could do whatever they felt like knowing Caine could fix things
Jax was the only one with the right attitude towards the Circus

>>153816088
>She literally watched him collapse over years and did nothing to help him
You literally see Ragatha try to reach out to Jax after Ribbit abstracted and him pushing her away.

>>153816068
Caine and Kinger both did significantly worse than Jax, SIGNIFICANTLY. Jax did bad things, that sometimes had awful consequences he didn't intend and that guilt hurt him.

Kinger and Caine did actual, deliberate evil and didn't care.

>>153816113
a common reaction of guilt and grief, and as pomni showed you don't just let that go and never try again

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>>153816134
I doubt Ragatha tried one single time and then quit forever and wrote him off as a lost cause, we're just shown one time but it's not like Ragatha at the start of the show is shitting on Jax at all times. In fact she only starts when she suspects Jax is bringing down Pomni with him.

>and as pomni showed you don't just let that go and never try again
...until it's time for the plot to kill Jax off, in which case she just stares at him like he's a weirdo that's freaking her out.

>>153816113
Kinger in episode 6 has to tell Ragatha giving someone space shouldn't mean giving up on them since Ragatha had given up on jax and was considering putting pomni in the same failed category as jax.

>>153815988
oh hard agree, i just think this ending is shit from all angles. the narrative validates literally every single part of jax's bullshit just to barbarically torture him for it, it's so fucking weird.

>>153816122
Kinger and Caine also did those things with agency. Jax was just a traumatised homeless kid who got sucked into a weird fantasy world and did his best to cope with it

>>153816088
>>153816134
desu Ragatha also has mommy issues that create some pretty maladaptive behaviour in her. She really can't handle conflict and is the type to just enable whatever Jax demands, even if it's not in his own best interest. Kinger literally has to explain to her in episode 6 that giving someone space isn't the same as giving up on them
She also would have only been 21 when she entered the circus, so probably hasn't had the chance to emotionally mature much

KINGER though, the vault of social wisdom? that guy's 48, is partially responsible for their situation, knows he's more sane in darkness, hangs out in his pillow fort all day, and never once in all these years thinks to call out "hey guys, I actually think a lot clearer in the dark, come pull up a pillow if you ever need to talk"

just wanted to say i love ragatha and if they're files then that means caine can duplicate them so there's a ragatha for each of us

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>>153816071
>this character meant to represent sad and mentally ill young White men deserves no sympathy and should be horrible humiliated and then destroyed

Add this with the final episode of The Boys which asserts the same message and you do have to wonder how much of media, even supposed "indie animation" really is just freemasonic brainwashing and ritual trauma meant to destroy the minds of the masses and encourage the destruction of young White men. It's hard for me to believe it's all just a coincidence that this stuff is released at the same time and same message crop up in all media over and over again, if you are brown or black you deserve redemption for any crime, if you are a White man who has any problems with society you should be tortured, humiliated, killed, etc, and everything is all your fault forever.


Making Jax "irredeemable" and then celebrating his death/suicide as a good thing which will make the lives of the people around him better is a choice and it's a disgusting choice. Watching the final episode, it does make me reevaluate the entire series, the fact that it ends with all the girl characters and the girl dad living happily every after, while the one unhappy incel coded male character Jax is painted as a horrible villain who should kill himself off so the matriarchically society can happily exist without his toxic White male ways, seeing that all the other characters are brown or black, and then we see Jax's White hand on his death bed in the hospital. It sucks, but you really can tell what a show will be like based on the creator, and Gooseworx is a self-hating White man who cut off his own dick thinking it would let him fit in with a society that hates him. He even says that he identifies most with Jax, the show is pure unfiltered self-hatred and mental illness on display, it absolutely will be harmful to anyone who watches it uncritically.

>>153816220
>...until it's time for the plot to kill Jax off, in which case she just stares at him like he's a weirdo that's freaking her out.
staring at him as if he's a stranger, just like he stared at ribbit. no wonder that was his last straw.
but for no fucking reason. and it would have been so fucking easy. literally all they had to do was have Jax be a dick to her too when he was douche-coping at the beginning and shake her trust, making her just that little bit less comfortable with him and making him feel less worthy of her compassion. instead it happens just "because"

>>153816229
Yeah, which means if anything Ragatha probably got even a bit too intense for Jax in trying to help him.

>>153816336
Isn't jax shown as Asian irl?

>>153816336
What the fuck are you talking about? Jax isn't white, first off. Everyone of them had issues, Jax's was just put to the forefront because he was a main character. Nobody is celebrating his death, even Caine takes off his hat out of respect when they're going over his real life person. Calling it matriarchal when Caine, a male, was the leader the entirety of the show is retarded. You need to stop poisoning your brain with politics, not everything has to do with them.

>>153816336
Jax isn't white, is trans (or at least that's what everyone is assuming the story meant to say), and the only characters close to anything sort of a leadership position are Caine and Kinger, the other two male characters. Pomni too maybe, but really she's just the morale keeper.

The ending sucks but pretending it's because it's some sort of anti-cis propaganda is fucking retarded and obsessed behavior.

>B-bro you can't hate tranny fags with daddy issues because their inability to cope and instead lash out is somehow everyone's problem and fags can't be responsible for their own actions.

total troon death was the only ending possible for jax

>>153816366
Cain isn't a human and he is a representative of the demiurge, which this freemasonic show is telling people to have sympathy for, don't have sympathy for traumatized or broken White men who are prisoners of the demiurge, but have sympathy for the devil himself who rules this world. Very sick message.

>>153816361
No, where are you getting that from? Kinger is White with a black wife and black daughter, Ragatha is black, Zooble is black, Pomni is hispanic or something, Ragatha is White but hates her White family and her leaving them is considered good, showing their IRL races makes the show explicitly woke and anti-White in the most on the nose blatant way possible. If you are a White man like Jax, who doesn't become a cucked girl dad to black women, you deserve to be horribly tortured and killed. It's extremely obvious what the message is.

>>153816071
I feel that the only reason Jax was irredeemable is because of the situation he was placed in. We see Leeroy having a mostly normal life, while Jax almost seems like a different person completely. I don't think he's a bad person initially, but the circus obviously took a toll on him more than it did to everyone else.

>>153816430
The circus really fucked everyone over, literally all of their IRL counterparts are thriving while they've been barely hanging on, idk why this part was meant to be uplifting. The guy who ruined their fucking lives by dragging them into hell with him just pops back and say sowwy right after causing a 22 year old homeless child abuse victim to kill himself

>>153816425
I think you're actually fucking insane and reading way too much into the show. Caine is not a real character. Plenty of people have sympathy for Jax, but he ended up being his own downfall. It was nobody's fault but his own that he ended up the way he did. Jax is very obviously asian. Again, your mind has been poisoned. Take a chill pill and stop thinking everything is some satanic cabal that wants to kill all white men. It's a show made by a tranny with a drill fetish. That's it.

>>153816314
>She also would have only been 21 when she entered the circus,
they don't age in the circus

if they did, Jax was 14 when he was caught in the circus.

He would be the biggest victim in all of this

>>153816453
The show is freemasonic propaganda meant to make people love their abuser, the demiurge, and telling people that there is no escape, you must accept this broken, fallen world, and its ruler the devil, because the alternative is too scary and you can't handle it. Literally Stockholm syndrome on a cosmic scale, I'm getting very tired of devil's petty behavior and I'm not going to take his abuse any longer. He has his servants bump out this disgusting propaganda meant to traumatize me, he mocks me with synchronicities, I won't take it, he can shove it.

have there always been schizos here

>>153816497
calm down man it's just a cartoon.

>>153816493
>they don't age in the circus
There's no indication of that, idk why people just assume it. Time still passes.
Kinger is 48 and didn't know that his real world counterpart has kids. That tracks if he was 30 when he entered, much less likely so late in life.
>if they did, Jax was 14 when he was caught in the circus.
There's no indication of how long Jax has been there, and Goose has gone on record saying she never thought about it because she's not a very good writer

>>153816497
Average jaxfag coping with his death

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>>153816314
Kinger has been my favorite character for all of the show and this movie is about to end that because now that everything's been said and done, he did way worse shit than just creating the circus and he's gotten away with everything without a single blow to his reputation among the cast. His image of being the wise role model who can pull through anything and would be there for everyone if his insanity wasn't holding him back is fucking crumbling because now it's becoming more and more obvious he still didn't try nearly as hard as he should have.

>>153816552
t. cainefag

>>153816569
and proud to be one

>>153816517
Anonymity enables them.

>>153816540
Taken in isolation, sure. But nothing exists in isolation, once you learn to see how this universe communicates, you stop giving this insults the benefit of the doubt and you see them for what they really are.

>>153816558
Oh and also:
Turns out Caine had nothing to do with his insanity, it wasn't, like, a conscious manipulation to stop Kinger from dismantling his circus or anything, even when accounting for the mind control stuff. So at any point Kinger was in his pillow fort, he could have just called on Caine and advised him and done that father-son talking to that all the fans are desperately saying should have been there. But after 20 years in the circus apparently that just didn't occur to him.

>>153816575
I know some love being enslaved and tortured for no reason. Good for you I guess?

>>153816558
For real, he really sucks in retrospect. I don't blame him as much as I blame Goose, because it's glaringly obvious now that she only gave him the darkness quirk so he could be wheeled out for exposition when necessary and that she simply had no interest in all the implications of his character.
Also an unbelievable writing choice that he didn't even get to attempt to have a heart to heart with Jax.

>>153816575
>I'm proud to be a slave to the devil
This is cowardice, you submit to evil simply because it is more powerful than you, any bully could own you if they so wanted. Gooseworx was literally employed by the devil to create a work that made people feel bad for him, "Oh, the devil is just misunderstood, but humans who oppose his rule and his world are irredeemable monsters and they should be tortured and killed!"

This world is hell and you're on of its demons sent here to torture us real souls.

>>153816624
You just have to wait for the demiurge to lobotomize itself bro

>Make jax the main character for half the series and the finale
>Hamfisted the tranny allegory even further into his story
>Make him ACK himself
>Caine revive himself (Somehow) and everyone is happy now guys!
>They turn Pomni into a deuteragonist for this btw.
>There are retards that think this ending is even acceptable in the slightest
I don't think anyone wins, this FAGGOT took up Ragatha's episode and the finale just for his arc end in his cucking.

>>153816624
>>153816646
yeah buddy that's right i'm here to GET you and i'm gonna do evil things to you because of a character in a web series
meds, now.

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After everything's been said and done, I think Zooble is the only truly well adjusted member of the circus, ngl. Which is ironic given Zooble was introduced as the most frustrated and in the worst spot. Zooble's one and only mistake this whole time was to rag on Caine a bit too much, and even that ended flipping all the way around to Caine getting better.

>>153805068
watching socially inept characters is so boring. The whole flashback session was terrible. Feels like many shows from the 2010s to here have the same character over and over again. At least the japanese make it funny

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>>153816651
All of these choices make sense when you realize that Gooseworx is a self-hating White man who cut off his own penis in the hope that it would make browns and blacks love him and that finally he could fit into society, only to realize that it will never be enough, he will always be miserable, he will always be hated for having a soul, so he attempts to black out his soul by serving the devil and creating propaganda meant to set others down the miserable path of serving that devil and destroying themselves. Evil is holistic and we must oppose it in all forms in order to heal the world. Go Vegan (The devil/demiurge hates Vegans more than anyone else because in God's real creation, the real God, in the garden of Eden, we were all Vegan, even the lions. We must combat the devil by going Vegan, this should be self-explanatory but I know most of you are total fucking retards who need me to spell out everything for you, so there you go, Go Vegan!)

>>153816646
Have you considered you're fucking insane instead? You are a paranoid schizophrenic.

>>153816753
I've gotten the diagnosis, I've heard it all before, and yet, despite everything that society says, I continue to consistently be right about everything and they continue to be wrong.

>>153816774
Oh you are a legitimate schizophrenic off your meds, lol. I hope you get better, legitimately.

>>153814990
>Anon says inane shit
>Several anons nodding "Exactly. And that is why I'm the chuddest chudderoony goony."
This whole drama on /co/ is just discord raid by autists. Theres a general and they keep spamming same threads about their troon-senses tingling and Glitch/Indie animation having 2 weeks left. You had 2 years to make these claims and its now you're coming out? You're either retarded or pretending to be one.

Okay, i was going along until the Vegan part. Is this that glowie tactic about injecting non sensical stuff like flat earth theory into whatever is being discussed to make the original poster seem insane so everyone can dismiss what is being said no matter what? There was a name for this.

>>153816824
no he's a diagnosed schizophrenic who needs help and medication, that's it

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>>153815004
>everyone was happy that a tranny was making something that is fun and DOESN'T have tranny stuff tackled in
>finale comes and Jax was tranny stuff
I apologize chud, we should have listened

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>>153806587
Yes I can accept Jaxs death only if Caine does not come back magically.
He is literally not needed here.

>>153816824
>I was going along until an aspect of truth that makes me personally uncomfortable because I'm a bad person who refuses to stop torturing and killing and raping defenseless animals was brought up
You're not ready, go buy some hamburgers from the demiurge.

>>153816824
>there's no way that engaging in the occult blood ritual of murdering and consuming innocent souls could actually be a bad thing, Vegans must be loonies!
How are you any different than Epstein and his circle? They kill and rape human babies, you kill and rape cow, pig, and chicken babies. Epstein sees you and the human babies he kills and rapes as animals (goyim) thus he is doing the exact same thing that you are, and you are both evil in the same way. Go Vegan if you actually want to change things, otherwise you're just another servant of the same demon that these freemasons are.

I feel like at this point the only possible explanation for this trainwreck is that the story fell short of the budget and time allotment so it all fell on Jax to become the ending because his arc was as far as they could reach.

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>>153816889
I see the enlightened one has no issues on projecting everything in a bout of anger on someone who was willing to listen.

>>153816950
They could do a lot of things if the therapy talks and characters just gaping at the void like fishes was cut in half.

>>153816975
You said some stupid shit comparing Veganism, the objectively correct moral stance which has its basis in the concrete reality that torturing, enslaving, and killing and then consuming real living breathing feeling things is wrong, with a kooky metaphysical theory like flat earth which isn't relevant to the way people live their lives at all. Veganism actually matters, the shape of this planet, this cage, this world, I don't care and neither do you. If you had to deal with the insane amount of gaslighting and abuse from the demiurge that I have, you would be short of patience as well.

I shouldn't have to tell people how to not be evil, they should just instinctively know that being evil is wrong, and yet, they don't, so here I am. I don't want to be a thought leader, I don't want to have to lead people to the truth, I wish they could just do it on their own, but it never seems like they can, and even when I lead them to the truth, like the proverbially horse to water, they still don't drink, they still don't Go Vegan.

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>>153815004
Based lmao.
The funny thing is that I enjoyed most of the eps tho.

I dont self insert as Jax so im apathetic about is death bordering on thinking he deserved it.

People who have their panties in a bunch about it probably see themselves like him.
>le quirky asshole who secretly has a heart of gold

That shit stops being cute in middle school. At some point you are just an abrasive asshole and nobody cares what your reasons for acting that way are.

>>153814269
>you gotta le open up n jus b urself!
In that case, shit normoid platitude tier message

>>153817384
I'm also not a self inserter at all as any character so Jax being an abrasive asshole didn't personally offend me and I was just curious what it was leading up to and how he'd evolve.

I still found this all extremely disappointing and a total anti-climax that did a disservice to every character involved.

>>153817384
I don't care that you don't care. I only want you to be as miserable as possible.
Are you seriously telling me you deserve better than complete suffering?

>>153816824
>Is this that glowie tactic about injecting non sensical stuff like flat earth theory into whatever is being discussed to make the original poster seem insane so everyone can dismiss what is being said no matter what?
Yes. Its also a classical troll tactic, injecting unrelated topics to derail discussion

You know, as far as eternal inescapable hell fates go that was one of the best, but It's sad that in the end, it's still an eternal inescapable hell.
Call me immature, but I'd much rather have an ending where they actually escape, or at least de-abstract.

Also, IRL Pomni is fat? Fuck off

>>153817495
>I'll just pretend this is unrelated because I don't have an argument

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>>153817531
lmao, the architect's borger posting was too strong.

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He apologized for the slur, you're all going to have to accept it sooner or later.

>>153814269
>You realize not every character has to LE DEVELOP and writing is not exclusively following the single template that midwit youtube video essayists treat as gospel?
If the main takeaway was supposed to be that he was an asshole with zero redeeming qualities who deserved to abstract, then it rings hollow since you have Caine, a flaming narcissist who psychologically and physically tortured everyone over hurt feelings, show up and become friends with everyone like nothing ever happened.
If the main takeaway was that he was a cautionary tale about how you can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved, then fine. But his human self got his shit together when a friend reached out to him and as far as we can tell he's a good guy and a productive member of society which means that this cautionary tale doesn't work because bunny Jax should have been capable of the same thing.
Hell, if the main takeaway is that he has bad gender dysphoria and his issues would have been fixed if he was able to freely be the girl he is inside, it doesn't work either because he's still a dude in the real world and is doing just fine.
He works fine if you view him as a troubled guy who becomes worse in a high stress environment that brings out the worst in him since it shows the inherent horror of being trapped in the Digital Circus, but in that case he should have just abstracted in episode 7 since he was on the edge of doing so to begin with.

His death is not well written at all, nor was his character handled well.

>>153817575
Gotten your fill of (you)s yet bud?

>>153817442
You arent making sense. Clarify.

>>153817410
Stories need to have stakes and a main character death is how you communicate those stakes are real. If Jax didnt die the story would be another forgettable adventure with safety rails.

>>153812914
Can you name a single thing that's wrong? Jax shows plenty of signs of redeeming himself and he was nearly 75% of the way there before the series randomly decided to have him off and abstract off screen.

>>153814720
Charles Manson eyes.

>>153817652
So much text when you could have just said you are upset a character you liked got killed off. Its okay bro, Im still upset gummigoo couldnt join the main cast.

>>153817695
You misunderstand the purpose of those scenes humanizing Jax, they exist so that the audience members who identify with him feel humiliated and demoralized when the show ritually tortures and murders him. The Boys did the same thing, all these shows do the same thing. Best to stop watching any Freemasonic media at this point.

>>153817681
>Stories need to have stakes and a main character death is how you communicate those stakes are real.
There wasn't any stakes involved in Jax's death to begin with. He dies for literally no plot relevant reason. You could have him live and everything would turn out the exact same way as before, except he's alive now. >>153817652
Jax essentially got an easy way out of having to take accountability for anything that he did.

Him having to work through his trauma, apologize to everyone, forgive himself and take accountability would have been a far more poignant message than whatever nonsensical bullshit that gooseworx was writing.
>>153817734
You can just admit that you don't have an argument. Jax's death is not well written.

>>153817652
Cain is meant to represent the demiurge/devil, Jax is meant to represent a White man who doesn't like living in this world ruled by the demiurge/devil. Read my previous posts.

>>153816549
>spoiler
Details like that are unnecessary to telling an actual story, they only serve to placate smarmy fandomites who care more about accurate wikipedia articles than characters or themes

>>153814344
gr8 b8

I'm glad that Jax's cliche sadboi shit sucking up all the narrative focus ended with him becoming a mindbroken cuckdog. Yabba dabba doo.

>>153816088
>Jax needed rape correction!!!!!
He did.

>>153815858
Why is mothman like this

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>>153805068
Fuck you Gooseworx

https://x.com/Tastitara/status/2057734598344532350

Jax's death is fucking people up bad lmfao.

>>153818588
>i feel like i lost everything desu. three years of my life was for nothing. i have an insanely hard time eating and constantly feel like throwing up. the urges are strong but im trying to ignore them and just distance myself desu. i’m so insanely disappointed.
Goose just sending several zoomers into a suicidal spiral via a cartoon lmao

>>153818816
Based vore- and barascalie-and powerdrilltrepanationstroon.

>>153805068
What development his whole character is how some people are shitty and dont want to change

>>153818900
And it ends with them becoming mindbroken cuckdogs.

>>153818900
He was showing clear signs of changing throughout the whole show.
>>153805777
>>153805974

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>>153805068
Did Jax end up being too well written for TADC standards?

>>153805811
>he never genuinely let himself change and be 100% vulnerable to anyone.
>if you don't open up for therapy sessions and prefer to keep things to yourself you are evil and toxic and should be killed
Therapy culture is insane.

>>153805068
I always wondered what made Digital Circus to be so extremely popular unlike other cartoons. I suspect that maybe the author paid for some astroturfing and shilling

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>>153805777
>The first 4 aren’t even “development” especially the first one where he’s trying to drag down Pomni with his shitty coping mechanisms
>Pomni pointing out the obvious isn’t “development” for Jax, she’s exposing him and he adamantly denies it (where ep 9 then blatantly shows was him lying his ass and if you were smart would’ve already picked up on his bs in the guns ep)
>Anon forgets that he automatically tries to get under everyone’s skin afterwards plus he still displays anti social tendencies when he looks away from Pomni’s grateful smile after that scene with Gangle and Zooble
>Just before that scene Jax was nearly about to abstract
>Anon forgets his little sperg abstract session before that too
lmfaoooooooo

>>153814169
>If you take away an explanation, it's unexplainable!

>>153819166
>>The first 4 aren’t even “development” especially the first one where he’s trying to drag down Pomni with his shitty coping mechanisms
Actually, they are. It shows that he wasn't a complete asshole and was willing to try and cheer people up, even if his mindset going into it was flawed.
>Pomni pointing out the obvious isn’t “development” for Jax, she’s exposing him and he adamantly denies it (where ep 9 then blatantly shows was him lying his ass and if you were smart would’ve already picked up on his bs in the guns ep)
That is actual development. Development means learning more about a character and not just them changing. Do you even know what character development means?
>Anon forgets that he automatically tries to get under everyone’s skin afterwards plus he still displays anti social tendencies when he looks away from Pomni’s grateful smile after that scene with Gangle and Zooble
He was feeling genuinely touched by the fact that they forgave him and was actively looking away so that they wouldn't see it.
>Just before that scene Jax was nearly about to abstract
And was pulled back from the brink and seemed to be beyond that point.
>Anon forgets his little sperg abstract session before that too
And he was pulled back from the brink yet again.

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>>153819149
The animation, the colorfulness, a shit ton of plot subplots and theorycrafting, the therapy talk people like and find realistic about and also it's a pretty creative show. People want something unique and appeal to other people instead of generic shit only for one group of people(white men), this is also why most of the fandom are deranged libs and lgbtq people

"deserved" is a childish argument and an appeal to morality.

>>153814337
Retard. Jax's problem isn't that he's trans it's that he has massive insecurity and trust issues and both figuratively and literally pushes people who try to get close to him away as a self defense cope mechanism.

>>153805068
Gertrude.png

>>153819482
don't worry you drumpf suckers will get what's coming

>>153819264
And my point is that learning more about the character doesn’t mean the character themselves will change retard. Jax being upset about Ragatha bringing up Ribbit doesn’t mean he’s changed lol, it just tells us about the guilt that he tries to stomp down. Jax shooting Ragatha in the fucking face wasn’t development, that was showing just how much of a fucking cunt he was, he wasn’t even upset about the accusation at first just confused until Ragatha made a fool out of him. This also shows us his misogynistic violence, traits that we’ve already seen at the beginning. Jax being sad about shit he caused means fuck all for development when he also caused Kafmo’s abstraction despite what happened to Ribbit earlier, also feeling guilt over it. What you’re desperately trying to imply is that somehow through all of this means that Jax was trying to be a better person but it shows the opposite kek. Him being “genuinely touched” doesn’t mean shit if he tries to spit on that kindness the minute he could in the next scene. Being constantly pulled from the brink tells us he was never stable to begin with lol. He wasn’t getting anywhere. Any half step he took forward, he took another 10 steps back for it and took a car drive to backwards town.

>>153818958
And then he immediately goes back to being shitty

>>153819719
>What you’re desperately trying to imply is that somehow through all of this means that Jax was trying to be a better person but it shows the opposite kek. Him being “genuinely touched” doesn’t mean shit if he tries to spit on that kindness the minute he could in the next scene.
The fact that he shows remorse at all was a clear sign that he hated what he had done and was capable of changing. Also, retard, he was literally showing signs of getting better.
He still went along on the Escape adventure in 7 instead of abstracting and helped a lot, even if he couldn't bring himself to act like part of the group.
He didn't fight against Pomni showing concern for him the way he did with Ribbit.
He walked away from Zooble's concern in 7, but stayed in 8.
When Zooble showed concern in 8 he covered for himself, but when Pomni did it more blatantly later he simply acknowledged her concern without arguing.
And then in 9, despite being at peak hopelessness and peak self-hatred for having just lashed out at the group, he directly approached Pomni, unprompted, wanting to include himself and help out with the rebuild. He just got cold feet, feeling too worthy of rejection to go forward without reassurance. And for the first time, for no reason other than "the plot needed it" she didn't meet him halfway, so he walks away and fucking dies offscreen.

He was about 75% of the way towards changing and then it was ripped away for no reason other than having a generic sad moment that people would cry over.

>>153819719
By episode 8 he seemed beyond the point of abstraction. He has one of his panic attacks but soon grows some balls and offers himself up to Caine to be tortured just so that the rest of the cast can figure out how to deal with him. It was a clear sign that Pomni was having an effect on him. But nope. They had to make Jax for no other reason than Goose wanting to torture past self.

You keep saying that Jax continuously takes steps backwards but every single one of his actions up until that point were things that he never otherwise would have done beforehand. You have no argument. This is objectively a shit way for Jaxs character to end.

>>153820291
>offers himself up to Caine to be tortured just so that the rest of the cast can figure out how to deal with him.
He can't deal with the topic at hand and makes an excuse to leave.

>>153820375
Then why did he willingly go get tortured by Caine anyway?

>>153820403
to not be suspicious.

>>153820423
Anon, Jax fucking hates being put into humiliating positions. We saw this in the Spudsy's episode. Jax never would have done this previously.

>>153817386
Have to? You don't have to do anything anon, life is not a school. You are free to be a miserable cunt and die alone. That's based and cool right? At least you are not a normal nigger with friends and lovers.

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>somehow caine returned

>Jax is the main character
>Pomni is nothing but emotional support for Jax
>Ragatha and Kinger are nothing but emotional support for Pomni
>Zooble and Gangle are there too, just for Jax to be jealous of
This really was the fucking Jax show it's insane

>>153820447
Its been like this for several days for them. He has been humiliated daily by Caine.

>>153820494
And? He still walked off and helped by distracting him.

>>153820511
It was better than letting the others know how he felt.

>>153817652
>Caine, a flaming narcissist who psychologically and physically tortured everyone over hurt feelings, show up and become friends with everyone like nothing ever happened
Yes, at the end of the day even AI was able to learn from humans and had a better sense of what's right in the end. Jax didn't even have to apologize for killing Ribbit and Kaufmo, he was already accepted by everyone. It's his decision to reject everyone and die a lonely faggot.

>>153820494
Anon, holy fucking shit. You're ignoring the fact that he WILLINGLY did it. The times you're referring to were completely out of his control and then he goes and offers himself up anyway despite that. That's something Jax never would have done before.

>>153820527
This has to be trolling at this point. Jax willingly still did it.

>>153820534
Just saying its not much of an sacrifice to cover how the situation is making him feel.

>>153817826
You can keep track of incidental details while maintaining characters and themes. It's not an either-or-situation.

>WHAAAAAAY why doesn't a character go thought LE ARC and LE DEVELOP and become LE BETTER?? my youtube essay template says it's the only correct way to write!!!
I know you niggers have only been consuming MCU and similar low brow slop throughout your entire life if the concept of a tragic character fries your brain this much.

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>still the only indie web video series that has a consistent story with a good ending
i kneel

>>153820656
If the main takeaway was supposed to be that he was an asshole with zero redeeming qualities who deserved to abstract, then it rings hollow since you have Caine, a flaming narcissist who psychologically and physically tortured everyone over hurt feelings, show up and become friends with everyone like nothing ever happened.
If the main takeaway was that he was a cautionary tale about how you can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved, then fine. But his human self got his shit together when a friend reached out to him and as far as we can tell he's a good guy and a productive member of society which means that this cautionary tale doesn't work because bunny Jax should have been capable of the same thing.
Hell, if the main takeaway is that he has bad gender dysphoria and his issues would have been fixed if he was able to freely be the girl he is inside, it doesn't work either because he's still a dude in the real world and is doing just fine.
He works fine if you view him as a troubled guy who becomes worse in a high stress environment that brings out the worst in him since it shows the inherent horror of being trapped in the Digital Circus, but in that case he should have just abstracted in episode 7 since he was on the edge of doing so to begin with.

His death is not well written at all, nor was his character handled well.

>>153814337
You forgot to mention, after Caine expels the blue AI he briefly gains access to the internet, looks up the guests' social media, and after he comes back he tells them they're brain scans and shows them how their IRL counterparts (with real human names) are doing (including Jax, but not including Kaufmo or any other former guest).
The only payoff to that is that the guests say "aww" and make puppy dog eyes for a second or something.

>>153805068
Should've been a villains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_C2HJvtRDY

>>153820699
The main takeaway is don't be a sad faggot cunt who pushes away everyone or die sad lonely and miserable. I see this simple message hits home for you, since you resort to copypasting your posts. Reflect on it.

>>153820776
But his human self got his shit together when a friend reached out to him and as far as we can tell he's a good guy and a productive member of society which means that this cautionary tale doesn't work because bunny Jax should have been capable of the same thing.

>>153819568
>Hurr, you fucking retard, Jax's problem isn't that he's trans and pushed his mother, Jax's problem is that he's insecure about telling people he's trans and pushed his mother.
...ok? Good for you?

>>153820711
>The only payoff to that is that the guests say "aww" and make puppy dog eyes for a second or something.
Yeah, that's precisely why I didn't bother mentioning it, because there's basically no payoff except for everyone going "aww".

>>153820776
gangle was infinitely more of a headache than jax

with how the finale was handled, i have a feeling glitch cut a bunch of shit out for budget reasons

Everyone is talking about the leak, but no one is providing the MEGA.

Sad!

>>153820855
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>>153820855
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Compressed and hardsubbed for your viewing convenience.

>>153821020
tech illiterate here, what do i do with this code thing?

>>153821041
Copy and paste into a "base 64 decoder". Look that up in google.

>>153818032
lel

>>153812315
> You can’t write your edgy bastard, designed intentionally to revel in being a dick and make the audience like him aesthetically on the premise that he’s an evil fucker, and then make some sob story that he stubbed his toe and then pivot into pressuring the audience to feel bad for him. He’s either an edgesink or an anti-hero and these wacky deviantart animators want both.

This

>>153820452
Oh making yourself vulnerable to sadistic normoids... what could ever go wrong?

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>had the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever
>actually does it
I pity anyone who can't appreciate how funny the ending being bad is

>>153821166
>be troon
>can't handle a few reddit liberal morons sperging at you, that you also try to appeal to , mind you
>go full schizo and purposely ruin your hard work

dude ribbit is so much hotter than pomni or gangle its insane

>>153816425
I don't agree with the demiurge rhetoric, but you may be on to something with everything else. I doubt a show like this would've been picked up if it didn't have the skewed themes on morality and mental health that it does.

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>>153821220
Troons will always, inevitably, shoot themselves in the face for a chance to own the chuds even if it makes everything worse for them in the long run.

>>153821238
Honestly yeah, Ribbit was BY FAR the hottest character in this. Maybe the english voice work won't go as hard, but that scene in her room was the sexiest thing in the entire series.

AND JAX FUCKED IT ALL UP AND DROVE HER TO SUICIDE, FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.

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>>153820291
>Jaxfags can’t comprehend that his self hatred and bad coping mechanisms outweighs the tiny amount of “selflessness”
The “I can fix you” trope was practically parodied too. People like Jax won’t be easily fixed just like that and people like Pomni can’t always be there to watch over a basket case.

>>153820727
>Should have been a villain.

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>>153821458
there was little of her but because of the movie i realized that