Why? It doesn't look like anything from the times where VHS were popular
>>153822517Nostalgia
>>153822532The people interested in this shit weren't even alive when VHS was a thing
>>153822703I was, but only because I was a poorfag who never got DVD until we got an Xbox 360.
>>153822262This doesn't make any sense. But ok good for him. I hope Pan is having fun
>>153822821Yeah
>>153822262Even Regular Show on VHS makes more sense than that.
>>153822262A fucking DVD would make more sense since he's obsessed with Y2K crap.
>>153822262I wanna see pan succeed but holy SHIT Pans art is so ugly which is insane when his inspo is studio trigger anime the horniest stuff in the world.
>>153822703I was born in the 1990s faggot, same decade as Pan. They were still being produced for movies and shows when I was a kid and I even used them. Eat a bag of dicks.Besides, it's best that we move back to physical media since subscription based services are gay and retarded. Which is why vinyl records had a sudden boom again.
>>153822262I had an idea like this for my indiesl- I mean cartoon when I thought about selling physical VHS copies of it since the cartoon's time period is set in the '90s & dawn of the 2000s when VHS was still king. But it would defeat the purpose of selling home media of a cartoon you could just watch for free online. Collection item? Sure I guess.
>>153823907Nobody cares that you used VHS tapes in 2006 because your parents were so poor they couldn't afford a DVD player and DVDs
>>153824268Ig
>>153824289Hey, asswipe, they were still being used before 2006 why do you idiots pivot to that year in particular when VHS is mentioned? Because that was the final year the last VHS release was? And in case you didn't know there were DVD player/VCR hybrids being produced at the time, which we had. Get. Fucked.
>>153825432pan your idea is stupid. just because you can do something doesn't mean you should
>>153822703VHS were still seeing use into the mid 2000's, production didnt fully end until 2007, but your complaint carries water anyways. Pan's just being an autist per usual.
>>153826566IIRC in Korea VHS tapes in production until 2010-2011 since there was an Inception VHS tape released in that country.
>>153824289VHS had the benefit of being able to record off of TV, so that alone kept them around in a lot of houses even if they had adopted DVDs for movies and shows. It's not really about being poor
>>153822262neat
>>153822262Who the actual fuck still has a vhs player??? Like you could sell prop vhs tapes with nothing on them and no one would know because even collectors of old tapes don't play them so they don't have a VHS player
>people in this thread getting mad at something that was probably made for fun in an afternoon for fans for a conventionDo you people have any fucking joy in your lives at all or is you mission just to shit on everything and treat it like a big deal
>>153828706Its actually a good idea in my opinion and a good counter culture action against the walled off internet.Anime OVAs were a thing companies sold that allowed them to make movies they couldnt show at theatres or on TV. It was a way to bypass network censorship. This is a way to bypass youtubes algorithm, or any algorith for that matter, that would kill your project because it was too problematic.Id prefer DVDs though. There is more programming you could do with it by making custom DVD menu screens.
>>153828706No
>>153829463This is why you dont ask strangers on the net for any points of view. Theyre d7kb as bricks, cant see two steps in front of themselves and want everyone as miserable as they are.
>>153822262I think retro VHS releases are cool but vhs players are stupid expensive in good condition nowadays.
>>153822262You know, they would've been on DVDs, but atlas, VHS-based autism strikes again... :\
>>153822262you think laser disc was too expensive?
>>153822262I don’t care about Loki but I find this fun.If I make a comic/cartoon and it gets big, I wouldn’t mind having a game based on it that’s optimized enough to fit onto a PS2 disc.
>>153822262He just keeps getting sadder and sadder, I wonder how much money he's blown desperately trying to promote this failure of a show. He's up there with the monkey wrench guy. The same thing happened to that guy who made those weird rap videos with his mouth and blow 50, 000 right on YouTube changes the algorithm and he doesn't get money anymore there's all the same just stop trying to marry cartoon characters
>>153829662I wonder how they can even afford them to begin with Blank vhs tapes costs have risen alot in recent years especially those in good condition.
>>153829825Monkey wrench is actually good unlike anything you've made
>>153829889I saw some at goodwill for like 4 dollars each
>>153822262God I met Pan Pizza at comic con over a decade ago. It was fun talking to him but he also sincerely asked for permission to talk about Zone-tan (hentai artist) in front of my sister. He later met my friend at the time who was a tall busty goth girl who he was such a gooner around. He drew her a random drawing and gave it to her and she didn't give a fuck LMAO
>>153822703Yes I was. It's not like tech despawns once they pass their prime. Gen alpha probably remembers the wii.
>>153822262How much do you think Pan is seething right now that Planetronika, made by a guy with 89k subs, has already crossed 1.5 million views and managed to perfectly emulate 2000s animation (with no rough animation either, despite being animated entirely by one dude), while his masterpiece, decades in the making, didn't cross 800k views?
>>153824289People didn't just stop watching VHS tapes because DVD came out.Not everyone wanted to buy DVD versions of their VHS tapes and most of the time they couldn't because the DVD versions did not exist yet.It wasn't until after VHS to DVD converters became a thing that VHS tapes started to lose value since people could not longer validate owning both the DVD and VHS version of the same movies and TV shows with limited housing space.
>>153830525He's probably not caring honestly
>>153824268What you do is spread rumors of it's existence, anonymously throw up clips and wait for the lost media fags to catch wind lf kt.
>>153829889There's various smaller companies that specialize in it and can be more cost effective to work with for smaller production runs. And those companies can sell fully licensed VHS tapes of more modern movies for ~$30.
>>153830981That happened with white faceSome fag released his fag film by just dropping them off at random places
>>153822262Nobody cares.
>>153828645It’s a gen z hipster thing. A LOT of people get thrift store VHS players and collect tapes.
>>153822262RebelTaxi is doing this because deep down he knows he'll only ever be able to fund that one pilot episode of Loki IRL. I say let him have this. He's doing better than most with passion projects. At least he's got a finished work to show for itself.
>>153833154I do
>>153834202Hes gonna do it solo
>>153830057I met Pan-Pizza in a con in 2002. He grabbed my little sister by the pigtails and swung her around like that kid in Matilda.
>>153822262Wow this pilot fucking sucks
his characters look weird
>>153838012You mock me but I'm not even joking. He wasn't completely social unaware but he definitely felt a bit sheltered socially. He did genuinely ask for my permission to talk about porn in front of a family member he had never met and who wasn't terminally online. Strange dude. I sometimes wonder what would happen if we were to meet him again. I was a teenager and he was in his 20's, my chud friend group would kinda just annoy him lol.
>>153838614We always knew Pan was a massive sperg, he wasn't hiding it. Did you know that he pitched Loki IRL to Genndy Tartakovsky and Adult Swim execs by talking about how we all totally wanna fuck cartoon characters, but completely blanking when asked what the show would actually be about? And you bet it was all recorded for everyone to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0i_ACubNXI
>>153829889It's like $7 a tape if you order 25. The price goes down the more you order. He can double his investment if he just sells them for $15. More if he orders more and more if he charges $20. https://store.crypticcarousel.com/collections/vhs-duplication-and-manufacturing
>>153824289i had a crt tv that had both a vhs and dvd player built in. shit was sweet
>>153830525He probably likes it.
>>153822262>Vhs Why not Betamax or 8mm/16mm filmreels?
>>153822262Is he still hanging around that retarded pooner? I think all the embarrassing things he has done, associating with that retard has to be the worst.
>>153840424>Is he still hanging around that retarded pooner?who? What?
>>153840424
>>153840494He started dating some retarded pooner who specialized in drama.
>>153840572She specialized in drama, she later chopped off her tits and there is a picture of her and pan after that and pan is looking noticeably sadder.
>>153840601but how do you get that he's still hanging around with them from this thread?
>>153840768>>153840601nevermind. I thought you were asking that question as a response to something you saw or read, not just a general question. my bad.
>>153830057>>153838614Hey, at least he asked permission first.
>>153830525>89kThat only happened AFTER the pilot dropped. Before, he had 11k. The real person who should be on suicide watch over it is Zurel
>>153840601Who?
>>153822262What in the fuck. Who owns a VHS player anymore. VHS wasn't even the best tape format, and tapes suck anyway.
>>153843747VHS players are a dollar at the thrift shop by me
>>153844033Gay
>>153822262So how many of these actually work
>>153843747VHS has been romanticized by gen z similar to how millennials got into vinyl. It’s a “hip” thing to collect and watch vhs now
>>153846682VHS tapes break down, theres no way to create this
>>153822262>demasters the pilot in a non-halfassed 4:3 aspect ratio just for the VHS formatHonestly I respect the effort. I don't think anyone would go through all that work just to fill a niche market that may hardly buy it. But then I remembered there are those who are buying up physical media because they hate being screwed by subscription based services, like Gen Z adults for example.
>>153846788Yeah but its free on youtube, you can just download it for free
>>153846682While that's partially the reason, Gen Z and even millennials hate being screwed by streaming services backed by a subscription, at least the Americans afaik. The cost of living for both generations is rough enough as it is and they rather own their shit instead of renting it. I mean the shittok zoomies are complaining about Netflix price hikes as of late that they would just rather pirate what they watch.
GBA video cartridge release when?
>>153846896He should do it
>>153822262>y2k aesthetics (DVD era)>90s VHS nostalgia for some reasonPan really is the more retarded kind of poseur faggot.
>>153846944Didn't VHS tapes still exist until at least 2006?
>>153846955Yep, Cars got a Disney Movie Club VHS in 2007.
>>153846955Yes, and cassette tapes overlapped with CDs, but the futurism of the early 00s was about adopting all the new technologies. New, sleek computers and cutting edge gadgets with translucent plastic casings.
>>153847486True
>>153822262Cringe shitHe's really a retard
>>153840396Interesting idea, I'll take notes.
>>153847486And vinyl records
>>153846851Right, but then why not collect dvds or bluray or download films? Some of the brand new films can be expensive, but old stuff (the same ones that would be on VHS) are dirt cheap and can actually be hooked up to modern TVs or played on computers. I’ve heard people wax poetic about the quality of VHS specifically, and some people will even go to eBay to buy homemade videos from tv broadcasts because they’re more interested in the commercials and general nostalgia. Similarly, vhs filters on both video and audio are super popular even when it doesn’t make sense. Video about nostalgia or the 80s? Sure. But I’ve seen some 20 year old kid who posts vids of himself playing bossa nova/jazz tracks on the guitar who slaps vhs filters on all his vids. Similarly, there are music labels that only release music on tape cassette. You definitely have a point regarding streaming and I’m glad people are starting to collect physical media, but the VHS thing specifically is different.
>>153844033Yeah, the “expensive” complaint is absolutely retarded. You can find them in great condition for dirt cheap even online, but nearly every thrift store will have several they’re basically giving away.
>>153822821FDSignifier might have some reasonable takes when it comes to race but his overanalyzation of everything and tying it back to race or whatever topic it is in politics, is not fun to watch more than 1 vid of. And that's his whole focus/channel. >>153830525He's like 00's inspired but not towards any particular style except maybe thick outlines like CN shows like PPG except he combines it with Gorrillaz and graffiti art. It's ok. But Planetronika is more appealing to amateur artists who also want to make their fan art/porn because it is already sexualized in a way that is not subtle but also not trying too hard like some of Pan's designs. Also a simpler premise where it's just gags and not cringe dialogue also helps.
>>153850709I collect digital, DVD, BD, and VHS. I try not to have the same thing on multiple formats, and I get specific versions for specific reasons. Anything that was originally 4:3 in cinemas or DTV I usually get on DVD or VHS. Anything in widescreen I try to get on BD. Interlaced content specifically looks better with interlacing intact on my '04 Tau. 36 glorious, glassy, inches of tube!
>>153830057Kek. One time in high school I talked to a black friend of mine (somewhat of an autist/blacknerd) and we both knew Rebeltaxi. I showed up with some LokiIRL cards I got. I heard his voice at SDCC when we were at a Kojima panel that he didn't show up for. Had his back towards me but his yellow and black flannel and voice was a dead giveaway. Luckily since I was with my mom, he didn't say much except congratulating me on finding him and then offering the cards. I said thanks and that was it.A bit later this emo chick I was fucking really into asked what I watched and I said some including Pan, and she said I was the type to watch it in a kind of derogatory way. I said it was also for his cool editing and aesthetic and I also cringed at some of his humor. She didn't really say much after. I talked to her for a while but it fell through. Thought it would go somewhere. Blogpost over.
>>153846787To create what?VHS, like tape cassette, actually does a fantastic job of preserving media quality to the point that people who try to process their video or sound using tape in an effort to get “lofi” are often disappointed with how pristine things remain. The shitty VHS quality that people think is stereotypical of the media tends to be due to videos recorded at home using the extended play feature which cranked the tape slower so you could fit more on a single cassette, recording over things several times, and improper storage somewhere super hot and/or damp. But if you watched a commercially sold VHS of The Titantic, the picture would look darn near brand new even if it wasn’t stored in some sort of media preservation vault.I don’t think people selling new VHS videos are trying to copy the degraded VHS look (and if they were, there are digital ways to fake that). And the gen z hipsters who collect VHS aren’t exclusively interested in tape warble (though to a certain extent they seem to fetishize that as well). I think it’s partially counterculture.
>>153846833
>>153847486> but the futurism of the early 00s was about adopting all the new technologiesMaybe commercially, but I still recorded cartoons from TV on VHS and despite owning a discman and the ability to burn cds for walking around music, I eventually started putting music on tape cassette because cds skipped while walking around, burned through batteries super quickly, and weren’t conducive to listening to entire albums. I went back to using cassettes and a Walkman because I didn’t get an iPod until like 2006. Selling a y2k inspired show on VHS makes sense to me because as hard as companies were trying to sell DVDs, most cartoon nerds were still taping their favorite shows from tv. If you didn’t actually live it, it’s easy to think that the 00s were all about sleek digital gadgets and translucent plastic because that’s the romanticized revisionist version of the era, but if you actually lived it, you probably had fond memories of 00s cartoons on VHS. There’s nothing wrong with revisionist aesthetics. Hell, I thought the retrowave 80s thing was fun too, but that’s not how it actually was.
>>153822262I think Pan is hard to watch because he’s audibly autistic, I think he’s laughable for fucking up his [AS] pitch so hard, and “Loki IRL” kinda “Sucked IRL”, but I can’t be mad at him for making VHS of his episode for a con. Good for him.
>>153840424>Is he still hanging around that retarded pooner?No. I’d heard she left him to fuck a bunch of other dudes in Germany or something.
>>153851586Pan's nonsensical tryhard comedy was funny until you realized that it wasn't a bit, he's just like that in real life.
>>153851586wasnt his AS pitch about asking if anyone else wanted to fuck cartoons?wouldn't that be relatable to /co/?
>>153852243Pan probably uses /co/ if I'm being honest. I know Goonerspark for sure does.
>>153822262Who's this supposed to market to? Hardly anyone I know has a VHS player, let alone VHS tapes. If you want to sell physical media of your work, just sell in DVD or Blu-Ray.
>>153840424No, she left to go to ukraine of all fucking places. Why you would move to a country that's actively being invaded I will never understand.It does seem like they're still on good terms as friends though, which is a first for Pan.
>>153830525Alot of 2000s animations were made in Flash. More than likely that's what Rafael used in making Planetronika.
>>153822262I wish more people were nostalgia for the 1920s than the 2000s, & I say this as someone who's lived through the 90s & 2000s. Hell, I'll gladly take the 1940s over whatever crap this timeline has given. Everything started going to shit after the 1960s.
>>153852491Are you one of those people who browse Elvis and Sinatra music videos on YT to complain that you were born in the wrong era?
>>153852592>ElvisI had no idea that dude was basically an R&B cover artist until now!
>>153852205I guess it never felt like a bit to me. He always sounded like an actually autistic retard. Something about the way he pronounces his words by emphasizing the final consonant.
>>153852592No, I'm one those people who thinks the Axis should have won the war & that desegregation was a mistake.
>>153833819I’ve been doing that since 2015
>>153852243Yes. He had a slide in his presentation specifically about how humans could fuck cartoons in his show and reproduce. He then asked if people would fuck cartoons if they could and said “I know I would”. He said this. In a pitch meeting.To Genndy Tartakovsky and Mike Lazzo.Yes, I know Genndy has made some off color shit, but this is a pitch meeting and fucking cartoons was not central to the plot. It was a weird fetishistic inclusion that Pan couldn’t help but talk about. And it wasn’t a slip up because he was babbling about his concept. He made a slide in his presentation specifically about fucking cartoons.
>>153852351> Hardly anyone I know has a VHS player, let alone VHS tapesNormie detected
>>153852383Probably better for Pan. He doesn’t have to pretend to be gay now
>>153852491I have some good news for you…
>>153852970>I did it BEFORE it was coolGen Z hipster detected
>>153822262Pan I beg of youKill yourself before someone else decides to do it for you
>>153853029I'm not a normalfag.
>>153853063Lackadaisy isn't getting finished.
>>153822262This is catered specifically to me. I haven't touched a vcr machine in literal decades, by now.
>>153853181Said the normalfag
>>153853251> Lackadaisy isn't getting finished.Screenshot this
>>153840361he definitely likes it
>>153850770The real problem is VHS tapes fucking break down so these bad boys will last maybe 5 years
>>153855985The fuck are you smocking
>>153856143VHS tapes break down naturally Most VHS tapes are already 20 plus years old
>>153822262>Sells stuff on VHS in 2026. >Most of the people he's pandering to most likely don't even know what a VHS player is. It's all just gonna end up in Goodwill anyway so what's the point?
>>153853015>To Genndy Tartakovsky and Mike Lazzo.>Yes, I know Genndy has made some off color shit, but this is a pitch meeting and fucking cartoons was not central to the plot. It was a weird fetishistic inclusion that Pan couldn’t help but talk about.>And it wasn’t a slip up because he was babbling about his concept. He made a slide in his presentation specifically about fucking cartoons.didn't genndy make the cartoon about a dog trying to get laid and go to strip shows before he gets neutered?Is the issue not the raunchyness, but rather that the raunchyness he advertised wasn't central to the plot?
>>153822262I wonder if this will have any value whatsoever
>>153858811Yeah, that humans and toons can reproduce isn't repulsive as a concept on its own but it muddied already unclear setting establishment and wasn't a point worth bringing up in that particular pitch meeting.
>>153855985My parents still have VHS tapes from the 80s. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>153858811> …and fucking cartoons was not central to the plotYou understand context, right? If Pan was pitching a cartoon about humans fucking cartoons, it would not be weird to talk about that. Pan pitched a cartoon that was essentially a Pokémon ripoff but then added “oh, you can fuck the characters, too”. Including that fact in a show that has nothing to do with sex is already weird, but choosing to mention that in a pitch meeting is fucking bizarre, and planning ahead to mention it so much that you make a specific slide for it in your presentation is unhinged. It was wholly inappropriate to bring up, but the fact that some anons can’t seem to understand why means they are just as autistic as Pan is.
>>153860894Yeah the tapes break down retard
>>153862272The VHS tapes from the 80s are still fine, retard. Also, are you under the impression that Pan is taping over old tapes from decades ago?
>>153862377Where the fuck do you think hes getting tapes from
>>153864865holy shit. You actually DO think he's using old stock tapes! What a fucking idiot.
>>153864910>new tapes haven't been made since 2011 in korea>thats at minimum 15 years old
>>153864941tapes were being manufactured until 2016, but even if we accepted your statement at face value, as I'd already pointed out, VHS tapes from the 80s are still perfectly fine especially if they were recorded in "Standard Play" or SP mode which any commercially available tape is. The warbly shitty quality that zoomers and alpha have come to associate with VHS is usually due to low quality tapes being taped over several times and in LP or EP mode ("Long Play" or "Extended Play" respectively) which allowed consumers to fit more on a tape at the cost of quality and longevity. Factory sealed unused tapes can still be easily bought both at wholesale as well as individually. There are even services that will customize the tapes with printed logos etc, and put your media on the tape for you. And, as mentioned, tapes from like 45 years ago still play about as well as they did brand new. Your statement that Pan's tapes "will last 5 maybe years" is fucking retarded. If Pan is using unused tape (and there's no reason to expect that he's not), the tapes will be fine for ages.
>>153865246K
>>153865355I accept your concession
>>153865607Nig
>>153846944Should have released a DVD with an interactive menu and a commentary track
Did Pan ditch that obnoxious egirl yet?
>>153868797Not yet
>>153868928I coulda sworn Neon ditched him at some point. Not enough clout farmed yet?
>>153868797*eboythey trooned out
>>153829825Monkey Wrench guy is actually making money and consistently getting okay views. He'll never compete with Glitch, but he's doing way better than Pan could ever dream of doing.
>>153851424Dirt cheap USB-stick MP3 players were a thing at the same time CDs were the new big thing, while cassettes were also still around as a dwindling option. None of this makes VHS a y2k-related piece of technology.
>>153852491>1920Enjoy the economic problems of dying traditional industries and the instability of booming new industries, the stock market crash, and prohibition.>1940sEnjoy the echoes of the great depression, post war instability, and wartime rationing
>>153868948Nope
>>153826744>VHS had the benefit of being able to record off of TV, so that alone kept them around in a lot of houses even if they had adopted DVDs for movies and shows. It's not really about being poorApparently people still used them recently to record modern streaming shows like Stranger Things. That's the reason why they got rid of Netflix from the PS3.
>>153838012Pan wishes he was that based
>>153850897>here's some incredibly boring information about my life
>>153822262Saw this nigga at a pannel yesterday
>>153869129>Dirt cheap USB-stick MP3 players were a thing at the same time CDs were the new big thingNo they weren't. CDs started taking over in the mid-late 80s which is when they were "the new big thing", though cutting edge. They were the format du-jour in the 90s and pretty much how all music was distributed, though you could buy albums on cassette as well. Mp3s only really started becoming more prevalent in the late 90s, but if you wanted to carry the music around you needed to burn a CD. The iPod was released in 2001 and a handful of knockoffs were spawned afterwards like the iriver which, despite being the cheaper knockoff, was not "dirt cheap". Mp3 players used actual spinning disk hard drives for the longest time. Those USB stick type players started popping up closer to the late 00s moving into the '10s. Cassettes were available that entire time. Like I said, I used cassettes in college and there were a bunch of indie record labels that exclusively distributed music on cassette in the 00s. Through a good chunk of the 00s, stores were still trying to push DVD as the new format with deals like if you bought a DVD player, you'd get 10-20 free DVDs to help jump start your collection. You'd also see hybrid players that had both a side for VHS tapes and a side for DVDs. Ripping DVDs was possible in the early 00s (and often converted and burned to CD until DVD burners became more available), but recording digitally from TV typically meant using something like a TiVo and you weren't able to access the files to store on a computer or CD/DVD, so once the internal hard drive filled up, you were SoL. As such, if someone like Pan wanted to be able to watch his favorite cartoon shows whenever he wanted in the 00s (when most shows were not available in full commercially), he would have been recording the shows from TV onto VHS just like I was. The VHS release of his pilot is tapping into that nostalgia.
>>153871496zoomers seem to think that people stop using old tech once something new comes along, but they don't realize that1) people tend to be slow to switch especially when their entire media collection from decades of collecting is in the older format2) the tech was often prohibitively expensive when it was brand new3) the old tech was more flexibleVHS was very much still used in the 00s. I had shelves full of cartoon recordings from Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network.
>>153872067did Pan talk at momocon?!
>>153823388He's too stubborn to admit his style isn't appealing and go back to the drawing boards to make something more appealing to the eyes.
>>153872067That's Pan? Holy shit, he let himself go completely. Looks like a stereotypical deadbeat dad, except he has no children.
>>153822703Zoomers were around for VHS anon...
>>153822262I really dislike you Pan, but I will buy your VHS for old time sake as I used to enjoy your older youtube shit in the warm summer evenings as a teen.
>>153822262Who's Loki?
>>153822703The oldest zoomers are like 29 anon
>>153872067Ew
You guys realize DVD and VCR combos were a common thing right.
>>153872067Shit. He's hot.
>>153830525It perfectly emulates the Pinterest 2000s aesthetic, not the actual 2000s itself.
>>153840424He’s still around. There was a livestream not too long ago where Pan was helping him with his car or something, and the comments were super pissed that he left the stream for like 30 minutes to do this. He threw on a Nostalgia Critic video to pass the time, but it ended up freezing after a minute or so. I remember this because when Pan finally got back and fixed the video, Critic said, “Wait, what was that?” and it was perfect timing. https://streamable.com/7rt20p
