This was honestly the best and most accurate onscreen adaption of Mary Jane Watson. And I liked that she was Peter's friend who supported him and tried to get him to understand that Gwen was the right girl and not competing to be with Peter herself.
>>153837535>most accurate>tried to get him to understand that Gwen was the right girl and not competing to be with Peter herself.Which is it OP?
>>153837711She was the most accurate in personality and I liked that aspect.
>>153837535Raimi films did so much damage to this character and comics as a whole.
>>153837711she knew gwen was going to die anyway
>>153838562The perfect adaptation of MJ should like Peter but be terrified of commitment and pretend to be superficial and nonchanlant as a coping mechanisms. Also it should be set up that she should knows Pete is spider-man from the beginning but never let on that she knows.
>>153838562MJ was a whole homewrecker.
>>153839443>Also it should be set up that she should knows Pete is spider-man from the beginning but never let on that she knows.That was a retcon years after the fact which doesn't work if you actually read the old stories.
>>153839996I hate that india has access to the internet.
>>153839996I works just fine.
>>153837535This only works if MJ is also super tight bestie with gwen. Super best friends but also an odd couple. Has this ever been explored outside of spider gwen lesbo shit
>>153840035She was throwing herself at Peter while he was with Gwen, and while she was leading on Harry.
>>153840018Other than the one issue where Peter tell everyone he is Spider-man and then takes it back and MJ seems genuinely surprised, is there really anything glaringly inconsistent?I'm not saying it was always canon, I'm saying I like the extra layer and dimension it adds to her character and their relationship. >>153839443It's a shame because spectacular MJ was pretty close to what I want from an adaption of MJ and if a hypothetical season 3 had MJ admit she knows Peter is Spider-man and that she liked him while pointing him towards Gwen it would have been perfect.
>>153837535>This was honestly the best and most accurate onscreen adaption of Mary Jane Watson.She was just missing one thing...
>>153840436Die in a car fire on the way to a relative's funeral.
>>153840436kill yourself NOW
>>153840436I would prefer Paul over Peter because Peter in this show is a fuck boy.
>>153837535Maybe the most sympathetic portrayal, but hardly accurate. 60s MJ was a flighty party girl who dated Harry but wanted Peter. She only grew up when the Goblin killed Gwen.
>>153840196>>153840237Gwen and MJ were friends in the comics and MJ wasn't looking for a serious relationship and Peter was so Gwen wasn't that insecure about MJ flirting with Peter. She was more upset about Peter taking picture of Spider-man after George died and never being around. They were friend like Betty and Veronica both wanting to date Archie and sometimes being catty bitches to each other but deep down being close.
>>153840436I have no idea why Paul mindbroke people so hard considering the other boyfriends MJ's had since OMD.
>>153840436Who's paul? Someone's OC donutsteel?
>>153840625MJ and gwen were friendly bet never really came off as super tight. I feel like this could be explored more.
>survives 20 years of character assassination in your path
>>153837535People bring up how modern audiences would hate ditko peter and compare him to a school shooter but it's understated how they'd also hate MJ. She's non-commital, a bad girlfriend to harry, and we don't get a reason for that for ages
>>153841121Of coins Gwen wasn't super tight, she was getting cracked by that big goblin cock.
>>153841328Never phone post again.
>>153840634my guess nowaday fandoms tends to be more hostile but also they really want you to care about Paul and don't stop to get inserted in the stories, guy is a comic Yoko Ono
>>153840634Going from Spencer to Wells run was like being water-boarded, and ever since Lowe has been trying to gaslight the fans into thinking they did not enable Avengers #200 to be rewritten. Despite how ever Ewing carrying water years after Dead Language establishes MJ thought Peter dead because she never considered time dilation... except we know Paul knew about the time dilation, and apparently never thought to tell her in their years together. Meaning we have an Avengers #200 situation anyway.Nothing will change until the old guard are purged, only then we can get some good stories again.
>>153840634It's 100% the knee jerk, overnight, jarring change from them being on the cusp of moving in together and him considering proposing, to sudden kids and a sudden new love. Plus, for at least two years of the run, for some reason, MJ acted like a cunt to Peter like it was somehow his fault. Not to mention that when we DID find out what happened, it was so poorly written and such an asspull that it was insultingly bad. And painted MJ as a cheater, seeing as Peter universally travels all the time, and she literally gave up on him for the first cock she came across, it's not like she slowly fell for some guy in a refugee camp. Just first weird looking dude.For the remainder of Wells' run, Paul appeared almost every time MJ did, and forced Peter to simp for him, talking about what a great guy he was, going over for his chicken korma, telling the symbiote that Paul was the guy who "gave MJ her juice," it was all one huge humiliation ritual and just made Peter perpetually a sadboi.If Wells' run had begun with MJ getting cold feet about moving in, she fucked off and moved to LA for two years, and came back with a new boyfriend while Peter had already moved onto Felicia/Shay/whoever, there'd be some disappointed shippers, but no one this unhappy.
>>153841328Get off 4chan, Norman.
>>153837535>MJ and Gwen are a couple of super passive girls, in love with Peter and indulgent with him 89% of the time.>They have 0.5% of the original characters.>THIS IS THE BEST VERSION OF THE CHARACTER
>>153841328AU Idea: Peter and the Boys get drafted to Viet Nam. While they are gone, Gwen fucks Norman, MJ fucks George Stacy, and May fucks Otto.Flash is killed, Harry comes back having been raped for 6 months in a charlie prison camp. Peter, having been promoted to "Intelligence" is then recruited be shield returns with survivors guilt.
>>153843510To be fair Peter isn't actively dating either in that adaptation and Liz who is gets on him about him being a shitty boyfriend.
>>153843262People wanted the Marriage back, they then teased bringing it back, then humiliated people for having any kind of expectation that it would happen and spent the next 4 years making fun of them.
>>153840625Gwen should have died before George. He was so much of a better character than her
>>153843853Oh my! now this is a spicey take and i like it.
>>153843853I've noticed that George is (largely) forgotten between Ben and Gwen's deaths by fans and writers alike just like how even those who remember his death also forget about Jean DeWolfe. Not sure if they truly 'forgot' or if they are less impactful emotionally, but I remember they at least (sort) of adapted George's death faithfully in ASM1.
>>153843808Nick Lowe is infamously a lazy fuck who Spencer said pretty much rubber stamped approvals for his storylines without really looking at them but when Tom Brevoort noticed the hints with Mephisto and Strange at the casino and the mention of Peter's soul he marched to the office beyond pissed that he was trying to undo One More Day. That's likely why the last third of the run was spinning its wheels in place with Peter being used as a mouthpiece leaning against the fourth wall regarding the endlessly cyclical nature of his life and begging to know what he was supposed to DO.This also tracks with how Spencer hasn't really done anything in the past 5 years like he is either on probation or has been soft-blacklisted behind the scenes by editorial. The retaliation against fans is because the OMD/BND crew freaked out and got pissy that their plans got so close to being undone under their noses and wanted to put as much distance between Peter and MJ as possible no matter how contrived it was and with Zeb Wells being raw from his messy divorce was the perfect patsy to self-insert his cuckold nature into Peter for his dogshit run especially since he already projected his trauma from that onto Deadpool in DP&W with Vanessa dumping Wade out of the blue as a plot point.
>>153845573why the fuck can't anyone put aside their personal bullshit for the story?
>>153840018It's a good retcon and an original tv show is a great place to implement it from the start and smooth out the issues with it
>>153843510To be fair OG Gwen initially didn't have much of a personality besides loving da heckin' science and loving Peter in the comics before her father died and then she loved Peter but hated Spider-Man for dramatic tension to try making her more interesting but that also kind of stalled their relationship because it prevented Peter from revealing his alter ego to her because she made it VERY clear that she hated Spidey's guts and would NEVER EVER forgive him for "murdering" her father. MJ, yeah, you kind of have a point, anon but that's still sad that out of ALL of her adaptations outside of the comics this 0.5% is STILL the MOST faithful to Mary Jane Watson's true character in the comics.
>>153840625>>153841121It never really made sense that they were friends at all honestly, especially in modern times where people try to portray them as like best friends for life. Wanting to bang the same guy is not a good basis for friendship
In my opinion Peter has too many side bitches. Did we really need MJ as a character before Gwen dies? Does we really need Liz to show Peter is terrible at managing his superhero and personal life when we could have just used his friends. Did we really need Betty Brant as another love interest that goes no where.
>>153845698how could possibly hate peter gets bitches parker?
>>153845837Because the kind of people who jump from woman to woman are not admirable people. It’s not a heroic quality. Plus it’s weird considering he’s still supposed to be a geek and poorfag. Plus it’s just like when a series brings dead characters back to life again and again. You stop character about death because it’s meaningless. In this case you stop caring about his love life because you know none of them will last.
>>153846002ah, you're autisticpeter and the gang were all moving past their retarded middleschoool shitand peter was acknowledged as a passable athlete and big money photographer
>>153845698Having a group of friends used to be normal.
>>153837711Basically. People forget it, but MJ was a bitch who had this crazy cold war with Gwen right out of a soap opera. She got better through character development, but Gwen literally had to die for that to start.
>>153837535She's a whore no matter the verse.
>>153846278Enough about She-Hulk.
>>153845445George wasn't the same figure as he was in the comics in the ASM movies unfortunately, much like how Gwen got a personality transplant
>>153837711Most accurate in comparison to other on-screen adaptations.
>>153846255Eh, MJ was really just doing her own thing. Her and Gwen never really competed with each other. They weren't best friends, but there wasn't any bad blood.
>>153847517liz had more beef with mj than gwen did
>>153846255MJ had the Best Intro of all Peters love interests and her build up in the ditko run makes her the Madara of the Bitches who love Spider-Man.
>>153847603Liz's beef with Betty and MJ is funny in retrospect because she wasn't even in the race.
>>153846278were the whore post as common before Paul?
>>153847894no
I always thought betty was criminally underrated as a girlfriend. She's way too high strung when Peter's in high school but she could be a good romantic option even now
>>153847911hm, it seems the intent cause harm to her brand.
>>153848841you would think so if that secular jew was not buried as christian
>>153849171really makes you think about continuity inthe marvel universe. did flash even serve in the GWOT in the current year or was he just a foriegn legion volunteer in Ukraine.
>>153849353they have no use for him so I guess neither, he'd be considered as a veteran who served the symbiotes
