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Well. Let’s decide who is the most talented, intelligent and powerful genius once and for all
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>>153842890
cheese ray
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>>153842890
Kratos is canonically smarter than both.
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>Not SPM vs Caliborn
>Not SPM vs Gwenpool
>SPM VS Sentry instead
They need to boot the person in charge of booking. We could have had kino
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DENJIBROS!
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>Sonic the Hedgehog is 2-1 vs Dragon Ball with no answer in sight

Dragonbros... How did we become Sonic's SISSIES!?!? We need to HIDE behind our BULL immediately!!
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>>153842950
As was pointed out last thread both English and Gwenpool beat Prime pretty soundly so they're likely lessening the blow for DCfags before 682 vs Doomsday smashes the cosmology again
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We're back, CapeGODS
https://streamable.com/860kor
Yuji vs Denji preview if you want that I guess
https://streamable.com/nykcyt
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Tick tock
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Does your winner have drip?
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>>153842968
>Return with the absolute weakest matchup for Superboy
Pathetic
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Ok so Denji wins, you think they will go for a Respectful death or a "Doomslayer" death?
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Reminder
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>>153842968
SENTRYTOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!
primesura…
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icky vic
the stupid spic
tried to suck
a cosplayer's dick
got rejected
his axe wound infected
41% is his final trick
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>>153842986
It's Denji. Definitely Doomslayer style where he rips him to shreds. Yuji would give respectful death
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>>153842967
>again
simonFRAUD.....
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>>153842890
>Chudsaw Mid
>Jew Jew Sue Cryin
Kek I only watch Western cartoons in their original English language with subs
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>>153842986
Fuck no lol
Denji will rip him apart, call him a loser and laugh about how Yoru will suck his dick now
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It is remarkable how bad the crew are at picking matchups.
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>>153842986
The dude is made of chainsaws, there's really no avoiding a gruesome death.
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>denji
>winning
When will CSMcopers name a way for Denjeet to survive Domain Expansion?
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>>153842890
Dexter is more reliable. Both can be wanked to multiversal bullshit if you give em everything. The thing with Jimmy is while he can pull SS+ stuff out of his ass with lesser materials, his stuff also backfires a lot of the time. Dexter's kit pretty much always work as intended and is only undone by the chaos factor that is Deedee.

Dexter is also better in a fight.
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DENJITOOOOOOOOSSS!
yujisuraaa....
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>>153843041
Apparently he can just tank that in base from
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>>153843022
Composite DC Cosmology Kyle with Cosmic Armor Superman lost in a total sweep anon. WEAKC simply can't contend with /m/.
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>>153843034
Who the hell else could Prime have fought
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>>153843041
YOU LOST, BABY!
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>>153843087
Gwenpool and Caliborn / Lord English were his more popular matchups. Sentry was barely a match for just regular Superman
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So Prime should have fought Caliborn or Gwenpool

Who should Sentry have fought?
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Okay but what if Yuji wins anyway?
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Cucky Asta.
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Let's see if Capeshitters can actually give us a good waiting period for once
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>>153843120
It'd be mad funny
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>>153843041
It's over Yujibro... they made Yuji instantly use DE and hybrid Denji is going to just tank that shit...
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Cucky Deku.
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Post FUNNY matchups
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>>153843119
>Prime vs Gwenpool
This would have been the biggest curbstomp in Death Battle history.
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>>153843119
Gemini Saga, battle of the golden schizos with an evil second personality
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>>153843133
That's sad... I wanted to see Hero of Hell or Denjiman do the Mahoraga walk across Yuji's malevolent Shrine
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>g1 blog went full retard and somehow wanked Denji to having gigaton power
>wanked Asa, who is wall level, to this
Well, it’s the only way Denjeet could ever stance a chance—dishonest, retarded wank.

Yuji blowing DE early in the preview tho means Denji is still fucked so lol.
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>>153843139
I got you.
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>>153843139
The irony is The Nerd sincerely solos most verses talked about here.
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>>153842890
Jimmy is better under pressure but Dexter by far has the more consistent arsenal since 90% of Jimmy's tech backfires on him in someway
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>>153843087
Lord English. Far better connections and actually debatable
>Both fourth wall breaking cosmic threats
>Assault and or killer their writers in canon
>Both have time and retcon hax
>Both are super powered man children who despise the medium they are in and are supposed to represent the "toxic" fanbase.
>Meta bullshit
There's also a unique argument involved with it beyond just big power level. Some speculate Caliborn would 'win' in the sense that Superboy would move on, call Death Battle fucking stupid, and go touch grass like how he lost to Batkek while Caliborn is too stubborn to ever do that
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My cucky hero Asta is forever kissless just like me!
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>>153843142
Not really, both of them are scaled to schizo levels and Gwenpool has way better plot hax. Gwenpool's bullshit is the reason why Hulk beat Ultima it's legitimately strong
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>>153842986
Denji will RESPECTFULLY tear off Yuji's limbs and RESPECTFULLY eat his head then RESPECTFULLY ask Nobara out on a date
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>>153843133
I'm just assuming they'll have the DE gut Denji but he'll survive and come back as Denjiman, kill Yuji in a rush and that's how the DB ends
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>>153843161
>Yujeets already coping
Funny considering how cocky they were at the start of the waiting period.
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>>153843161
>Yuji blowing DE early in the preview tho means Denji is still fucked so lol.
It's the opposite. Using DE literally causes burn out, if they decided to have him use it early before even Denjiman comes out you just know they wanked Denji like crazy. It's going to be Kratos vs. Asura all over again
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>>153843193
>If it goes all out
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>>153843210
You're right. I won't even need to do that to beat its opponents.
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>>153843139
>crash
Who?
>spyro
Who??
>jak
Huh?
>rachet
Wuh??
>banjo
That fat guy??

Bubsy's still alive hahaha!!
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>>153843193
Just fucking stop.
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>>153843217
Considering it's on screen feats for the anime and manga it would need the mega since it doesn't do anything impressive
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>>153843222
Oh yeah, Natsu, the guy who had to get a rigged fight to win.
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>>153843236
Now you fucking know it wasn't rigged, at all. He solos Wan Piss.
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>>153843193
>Jobs to earthquake
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>>153843104
>>153843177
>Lord English
Does anyone in the DBcast even read Homestuck?
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>>153843087
Gwenpool for the similar enough backstory, and Caliborn for the insufferable fanboy-with-ultimate-power angle.
Sentry vs. Prime only works thematically from the stupid, surface-level understanding of an “evil Superman” fight, and only works as a fight if you lean heavily into the “implications” of Sentry being the Source from his books.
If you want a good matchup for Sentry, have him fight Captain Atom, since there’s actually a throughline deeper than a baby pool.
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>>153843260
They did Dave Strider VS Homura in a previous cast so yes.
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>>153843201
Anon, if a character uses their “trump card” ability early in the animation, it always means they don’t need it to win. Like how Metal Sonic blew Overlord, Yugi summoning Time Wizard early, Hulk going worldbreaker, I could go on.
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>>153843249
>Guy made of fire fights the guy that gets stronger by absorbing fire
Oh yeah, totally a fair fight.
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Would your hero would live like this?
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Welcome WEAKLING! This is the Nuclear fusion dojo, today we'll teach you how to become a BEAST capable of flipping all your losing Match ups!
Let's start with this basic routine!
https://youtu.be/tp1_V6LrWOs?si=SnalD2TrAsh590xI
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>JJKek fodder curse gets wanked to city level then they chainscale this to Gojo so Makima would lose
>RCT gets wanked to negate mind control
>JJKeks clap

>Denji/Pochita gets scaled to something he survives and matches the strength of
>JJKeks run in circles to try claiming it doesn't count but their verse still gets solo'd
>JJKeks seethe

Feelsgood
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>>153843288
>Metal Sonic blew Overlord, Yugi summoning Time Wizard early
Neither of these were these character's trump cards...
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>>153843270
>Wasting a Madoka character on Homestuck of all things
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>>153843296
He would have property.
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>>153843309
Seethe more yurifag
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>>153843288
>Metal
No that was Super Neo with copied Cell data which came later
>Time Wizard
No that was Horakthy. Time Wizard was ultimately just a little background thing in the ep even though debate wise it was a hard win con
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>look at Natsu's feats
>apparently melted an enormous fucking stone stadium as just a side effect of fighting
>not even hitting it directly, just by powering up
Um...s-surely a Pokemon has done something similar.
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>>153843304
Technically it would be Yugi summoning Slifer since nothing Ash had answers the big fuck off dragon
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>>153843309
As far as I am aware when it comes to Madoka, Dave VS Homura and Madoka VS Sailor Moon are their main popular matchups
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>>153843041
He can clone himself
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>>153843297
Fuck, I can't stand this song or any of the touhou garbage polluting my weaboo playlists. Let me listen to Ado in fucking peace.
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>>153843344
This is more destruction than the result of Palkia and Dialga actually trying to kill each other
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>>153843304
They straight up said Time Wizard soloes Ash’s entire team. Yugi just happened to have multiple trump cards.
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>>153843119
Captain Atom. Both are heroes cut from the typical superman template but struggle with a strong inner darkness (mental illness) which manifests as an evil version of themselves that undermines the good they try to do.
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>>153843299
>Denji/Pochita gets scaled to something he survives and matches the strength of
Denji is only building level? Damn, Yuji is going to low diff this bum. Won't even have to take his out of his pockets for this one.
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>>153843261
>>153843380
You know, why haven't I ever thought of this one? It works pretty good. Why isn't it more popular?
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>>153843186
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The next time will have:
>Cuckposting
>A literal manchild
> A statesment merchant
>A featsman
>A fuckton of hax
>A pity win
Yep this will be a good waiting period
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>>153843297
>"FVCK! Okuu-Sama! Will this allow me to win my upcoming fight!?"
>"Left, return, Right Return, Nuclear fusion! Nuclear fusion!"
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iiiiiiiiiiiinn thheeee LEFT Corner!
He has ALL the Powers of SUPERMAN, and More!
He's beaten Superman, killed the Anti Monitor, stalemated Cosmic Batkek Manhattan!
A single punch can delete timelines, time travel, retcon history, alter all of reality!
Immune to Magic, Immune to Kryptonite, Immune to Time Paradoxes!
Mildly popular enough that DC have made him the Main character of the Superman series!
It's Superboy Prime!

iiiiiiiiiiiinn thheeee RIGHT Corner!
He has ALL the powers of...a typical flying brick!
He beats Thor...sometimes. Beats Hulk...sometimes. Beat Molecule Man...after a missile did half the work.
He can alter minds...in a way. He can bend reality...in a way. Can do a few other things...possibly.
You can throw him into the Sun and he'll live...barely. You can strike him with Lightning and he'll live...barely. You can send him a few months back in time...and he'll beg you to send him back.
Popular enough that they made a C-Lister movie all about him, and it flopped spectacularly. That they brought him back from Knull gaping him, and nobody noticed or cared. That they gave away his powers to a Minority OC in a wheelchair and still nobody noticed him.
It's Sentry...
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>>153843380
Yeah this is actually really good. It's such a shame that Atom is just known as the guy who blows up if you so much as poke him.
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>>153843372
Reaper Death Seal Solos BTW. With it's BOUNDLESS strength, Izumo and Kotetsu would GAPE all of Yugioh and Pokemon
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>>153843386
Anon Yuji himself is a building level bitch.
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>>153843041
>He tanks it
>He regenerates
>He teleports to hell
>He just blitzes Yuji anyway

Take your pick
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>>153843358
Homura vs Berkanstel/Rika is right there.
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>>153843427
He actually could just run out of it before it closes which would be the funniest way for it to get negged.
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>>153843104
>more popular
How retarded are you?
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>>153843420
>Seal that Orochimaru survived
Lol
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>>153843371
The funny thing is that for all the seething and coping about the 12 universes merging during Ash vs Yugi, that's also LITERALLY something Natsu did too
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>>153843423
>Yuji himself is a building level bitch.
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>>153843368
>He can't enjoy some 2huKINO
Not gonna make it
https://youtu.be/Pr9jbNu0maU?si=WFiJQpkuVrl_OFpY
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>>153843454
He is when it comes to durability
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>>153843299
>>Denji/Pochita gets scaled to something he survives and matches the strength of
Literally never happened. Pochita continuously gets gored in every single one of his fights. He never tanks Gun Goddess, the best actual feat in the story, he gets instantly gored by it and loses the fight before aging intervenes.
It's wank vs. wank nigga. It's just a matter who gets wanked harder.
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>>153843454
DUST SCALING SAVE MEEEE BVLLSAW IS A COUNTRY LEVEL BEAST AIEEEEEE
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>>153843454
>Calcs for me but not for thee!
Pathetic
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>>153843438
Kill yourself listroon
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>>153843454
>I NEED YOU, DUST!
YA LOSE BABY
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>>153843392
Sentryfags (the very loud tiny minority) want him to fight someone popular because they wanna be relevant.
I don't think Captain Atom has had a fan since 2008. Nowadays he's just memed as "the guy who blows up if you punch him"
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>they exclude Modulo Yuji just to give CSM its pity win
How would this place react?
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>>153843485
First off, I'm not him. I don't constantly talk about hating Superman because Goku is my hero of something. Second of all, I thought he was the Kurumi vs Homura guy.
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>>153843468
I mean by this logic isn't Denji sub building level since as Denjiman he got his arm torn off by being thrown through some walls?
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>>153843418
K,B,C.
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>>153843500
I don't think that matters, because like I've said before, it's all about wanking. Modulo Yuji does have better really good casual feats that only loses to something like gun goddess through his casual destruction of Mahito's shibuya, but that doesn't matter when DB considers shit like "Gojo is above Yuki's blackhole"
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>>153843477
>A weakened Pochita gets beat by Gun Goddess
>Pochita with a one tree human's bit of blood was enough to beat Aging
>Aging no diffed the Gun Goddess and Yoru
>War arc outright says Denji and Yoru are both as strong as the primals now

Michigan sword got off screened by Pochita by the way
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Yogi Bear vs Smokey Bear

Who wins.
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>>153843500
If they exclude Modulo and the animation has Denji go high diff it would be the worst outcome for CSM keks
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Anti feats dont count
>B-B-B-
Anti. Feats. Do. Not. Count.
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>>153843541
o-ok KINGtos! we repent!
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>>153843530
Yogi maybe smarter than the average bear but Smokey is no average bear.
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Could someone post Yuji tanking a city level attack without simple domain active?
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>>153843528
>>War arc outright says Denji and Yoru are both as strong as the primals now
>Their entire fight barely destroys a city block
>Yoru's sword barely destroys buildings
>Yoru's trump card, an amped up nuclear punch barely destroys the surroundings
>All of these super duper powerful attacks do the exact same thing every other weaker attack does: Gore pochita/Denjiman in to oblivion, so he never tanks shit
This is just a downscale of the primals to below city-block jobbers
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>>153842968
What is Sentry even supposed to do?
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>CSN 0-3!!
>CSM 0-3!!
>CSM 0-3!!
Zillabros, Yusukebros... why won't they listen??
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Gentlemen.
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Why are Godzilla fags so salty?
https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/comments/1tlr3bx/yes_godzilla_still_beats_hulk_hulk_vs_godzilla/
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>>153843500
>They're having Yuji use his domain against Chapter 1 Denji
Base Denji unironically clears Modulo Yuji. Not amount of cutting up four soul material buildings will change that. Human Denji beats Yuji
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Please god let csm go 0-3.
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>>153843584
He's got nice looking hair.
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>>153843405
Who is who?
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>>153843372
Yes but it wasn't played up as THE trump card. That was Yugi going "I summon god lol"
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>Denji wins but it’s at the cost of getting extreme wank on par with Kratos that no one believes
>Yuji wins but that means CSM goes 0-3
Which is a worse fate for CSMfags?
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JJKfags are so fucking desperate right now. Literally begging after seeing Denji start winning everything one by one.
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>>153843530
Yogi.
He would outsmart Smokey by using a flamethrower on him.
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>>153843445
It is. Sentry was a nothingburger for basic Superman matchups let alone Prime Time as said he was just bland "le evil superman" match #48. Can't say much about Gwenpool but Homestuck at least has the infamy around it. Nobody gives a fuck about Sentry
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>>153843573
The fight resulted in at least two states being destroyed and the world ending by consequence. Pochita mostly tanks an amped slash from the Oregon Sword and Denjiman blocks multiple shots from Yoru's gun devil gauntlet. Even Fakesaw Man did and regular Chainsaw Man no diffed him

Given that the Gun Goddess is literally just the Gun Devil, Denji scales and stomps JJK
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>>153843605
I don't think they're willing to let a series go 0-3 anymore. DB has become too sanitized and I can imagine them not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings.
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>JJKeks now in the bargaining stage
KWABOOTY!
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>S-see I t-totally tanked that n-n-nuke punch. Which m-means I *coughs up lung* c-can dish out that level of p-p-power!
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>>153843634
Despite rooting for JJK, I always believed either outcome would be fine. CSM fans deserve a win after getting clowned on by the entire internet after that ending. Even though they kind of deserve it for getting so uppity and going on rants about CSM being the best thing after the bible, I'm a good person and feel bad so I think they deserve it.
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>>153843661
We just had Charizard going 0-3
Realistically entire franchises aren't going to go 0-3 because there's no franchise is realistically both weak and popular enough to do such a thing
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>>153843653
The state level swords that could only damage walls? This stupidity again?

Yet again, this is the same show that said blocking light with your hand makes you infinitely FTL, so I guess that tracks.
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Why can't Denji just regen through all of Yuji's attacks? Or just escape his domain before it's formed?
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>>153843670
Nobody who is a good person says I'm a good person.
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>>153843634
>Look at CSM feat
>They actually show damage to mountains and country sized landmasses
>Look at JJK feats
>They can't even destroy an entire city district so people have to do retarded shit like wanking a city block level meteor

kek
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>>153843689
There's nothing stopping him from doing either.
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>>153843669
You forgot to show the next page where Denji is entirely unharmed and transforms again
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>>153843653
>The fight resulted in at least two states being destroyed
By Yoru's highly conditional hax. That's about the extent of the actual destruction directly caused by either. And the hax doesn't even scale to anyone but Yoru herself due to taking ownership of the entirety of the US.
And the apocalypse was the bug chads taking over the world and killing everyone including Denjiman and Yoru that both got off-screened lmao.
>Pochita mostly tanks an amped slash from the Oregon Sword
"mostly" doing a lot of work considering he was gored. I don't think that's tanking lmao.
>Denjiman blocks multiple shots from Yoru's gun devil gauntlet. Even Fakesaw Man did
Right. Yoru's bangs really are PLANETARY AP kek.

So the strongest characters in CSM are the off-screen featless bugs and the second strongest are two character with literally zero feats above city-block at their absolute peak power with one of them still having such a low durability that she fell into a puddle of her own blood after a bike accident.
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>Spacebattles is the only place that believes Yuji wins with minimal effort
Why?
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>>153842968
I can't believe I am saying this, but why not homestuck?
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>>153843743
They smoke crack
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>>153843689
Far slower, same reason Mahito jobbed against Shigaraki. Regeneration doesn't help against an opponent with higher power feats. See also Cell vs Metal, Cole vs Alex, Deadpool vs Mask etc
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>>153843743
They actually scale
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>>153843490
Proof that it is dust?
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If Denji loses im posting my 6 inch white weiner
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>>153843689
Yuji's attacks should slow down regen by a lot and Denji himself has a limit to his regen, so no.
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>>153843768
Yuji is far slower than Denji though? There's not a single feat in JJK surpassing the speed of light, let alone Domain Expansion barrier formation.
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>>153843796
It's proven in the manga that cursed spirits blow up into dust
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Save us capeGODS...
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>>153843738
>IT-ITS HAX. YORU AND DENJI DON'T SCALE to it
Then why doesn't Yoru just weaponize her "hax" and one shot Pochita? Why was Yoru not immediately winning the fight if he doesn't scale? Yoru didn't get off screened by the way and human Denji was off screened
>Yeah, he got hit with a country level sword that was amped up even more
>But he was bleeding. So he didn't tank it! Ignore him matching the sword and Yoru in strength before this.
Do JJKeks really?
>Muh bike
She lost her strength because humans were becoming extinct. Yuji meanwhile is getting injured by balcony railing level punches
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>>153843681
That's not an entire series. Not to mention Charizard wasn't even a main fighter in the most recent loss.
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>>153843743
They throw out feats they don't like and make retarded arguments as to why they're not impressive

They also think Fate isn't at least universal despite FGO literally being about saving existence by getting rid of people threatening timelines. They're retards
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>>153843818
That's what i meant. Yuji is not as fast as Denji, nothing implies he couldn't outpace it.
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>>153843653
Via hax. Those states were destroyed via hax. And no fuck off we aren't going back to country level buildings again.
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>>153843833
You weren't supposed to mention that! Good thing you also didn't mention that Miguel was also considered physically gifted by gojo himself because of his African biology.
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>>153843833
Because yoru is a retarded bitch whose best idea of "owning" a part of the moon, was throwing a metal pole really hard? Do you think she is smart enough to do that, you nigger?
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>>153843817
That implies that they can hit him, Denji has reacted to BANGs out of earshot before.
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>>153843833
>>153843818
Are these posts ironic or not? There's actually someone thinking a CSM character can beat Yuji? Yuji who has fucking SUKUNA inside of him? The power gap between JJK and CSM is hilarious. CSM characters stayed building level until the very end, Fujimoto only focused on making Denji look weak and pathetic. While Gege made Yuji a fightGAWD. (This is coming from someone who prefers CSM to JJK, thoughbeit only Part 1)
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>>153843702
>>They actually show damage to mountains and country sized landmasses
May I see it. Like with punches and stuff?
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>n*gg*r
We. Don't. Say. That. Here.
Don't make me FUCKING angry...
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>>153843849
Fate isn't universal and will never be universal. Keep coping.
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>>153843869
She didn't think she owned the moon. She owned America's flag on the moon because she did not actually believe America owned the moon. It was a Fujimoto bait and switch

She should definitely own her "hax compression" though. Why didn't she just turn it into a weapon then one shot the verse?
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>>153843849
They throw out feats they don't like and make retarded arguments as to why they're not impressive
Name one example
>muh fate planets are suggsversal
Counterpoint.
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>>153843869
>Racism
3 days. Site wide.
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>>153843883
>he says while posting the reincarnation of a Gojo victim
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It's a shame we won't get Void causing Atom to snap, because when he does Atom snaps pretty hard.
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>>153843833
>Then why doesn't Yoru just weaponize her "hax" and one shot Pochita?
Why are you arguing in favor of a story you don't read?
>Why was Yoru not immediately winning the fight if he doesn't scale?
Pochita was getting obliterated the entire fight nigga. The reason none of them were "losing" is because Death allowed herself to be eaten and everyone was immortal
>Yoru didn't get off screened by the way and human Denji was off screened
Cute little headcanon about Yoru. But hey, I thought Denjiman was the strongest, why did Pochita choose to kill itself instead of just turning into denjiman and killing all the bugs? So odd.
>But he was bleeding
Literally cut in half and destroyed everytime he was hit. But he was tanking it for sure
>Ignore him matching the sword and Yoru in strength before this.
Literally getting obliterated whenever something landed on him. And never matched shit
>She lost her strength because humans were becoming extinct
But she definitely didn't get offscreened by the bugs... right? Lmao. CSMfags are funny
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So why was Yoru compressing the entire mass of the USA state of Oregon into a sword and hitting Pochita with it not enough to completely obliterate him into atoms?
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>>153843915
she only compressed a state into a sword to make a normal strength sword ok
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>>153842968
Prime is gonna fucking MAUL Sentry unless they do retarded ass wonky scaling.
Oh fuck... Prime is gonna lose...
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>>153843827
And it doesn't make any sense that a high precision attack like cleave, falling diagonally could cut at the very least thousands of curses to replicate such effect. And that is ignoring the narrative implication of hyping a guy, then making it so that guy does a super strong attack, only for that attack to be literally selling smoke.
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>>153843870
Speed doesn't matter when you can slash omnidirectionally with invisible slashes, specially with Someone like Denji that acts like a flying brick
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>>153843905
Celestial bodies are living things. Sun gods and mythologies actually exist in Fate, why would the sun not be the same as planets?
>Name one example
Other than fate? Yoru's state swords
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>>153843634
>at the cost of getting extreme wank on par with Kratos that no one believes
Why are you lying JJKek?
Denji's feats consist on things he survives on screen, attacks that are hundreds of times stronger than anything Yuji ever did on his own.
Yuji is the one that needs "Potential" and "narrative" to scale to Gojo, Dabura, Sukuna, Mahoraga, and Yuta because the guy is borderline Featless on his own.
Hell without Sukuna Scaling Yuji's domain is quite literally Featless
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>>153843743
Spacebattle scholars are capable of scaling normally
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If nothing else I find it funny that Death Battle has mishandled speed for so fucking long that people have apparently forgot how it works
>Yuji can reinforce himself with CE
Needs to consciously do so and can get blitzed
>Yuji can form the Dismantle infinity thing
Needs to consciously do so and can get blitzed
>Yuji throws up Domain Expansion
Needs to consciously do so and can get blitzed
It's like when Death Battle said Silver was infinitely fast compared to Trunks but Trunks could maybe win sometimes. Or when they said Joker was millions of times faster than Giorno and had a bazillion powers that Giorno might "start feeling overwhelmed".

It's like powerscalers think that characters are blocks of stats that constitute specific advantages that don't affect anything else and that a character who can instantly blitz and oneshot to end the fight won't do that and can be allowed to just exist in the fight and do their own bullshit because Death Battle makes a 4 minute animation pretending the loser is way stronger than they actually are
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>>153843926
That's not how her weapons work. When she made an apartment building sword she sped past yoshida and he couldn't even react to it so he instead fled.
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>>153843668
Remember how cocky they were at the start of the waiting period?
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>>153843947
i am being ironic, why would she make a sword out of something that big for little to no benefit?
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>>153843895
Becaues it requires specific shit for that hax to activate? Anon you are asking me why didn't a character do something, when we have seen on screen (two times in fact, that the compression hax is atleast country level, and than that shitty sword can barely crack buildings).
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>>153843938
>Denji's feats consist on things he survives on screen
Guys. Wolverine gets absolutely obliterated by Hulk but he regens after so he is hulk-level, right guys?
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>>153843249
>wasn't rigged
it was lmao
Deathbattle had to make an apology episode so dirty little fairy tale jeets wouldn't riot after Zoro btfo Erza
so they decided 'Hmmmm guy who eats fire vs man made of fire!'
kek
also
>200 million degrees celsius
>his magic doesn't just immediately burn everything around him into ashes
KEK!
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>>153843938
>Denji's feats
WHAT FEATS you fucking fodder
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>>153843927
>a weaker superman can do this
Post Bob rebooting mainline Marvel with a punch
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>>153843936
>Yoru's state swords
Post those swords destroying a a country, fuck, destroying a building, no, making cracks on it doesn't count for the 1485th time, and I am refering to the sword itself, not the process of creating that sword. Otherwise you sound like a kratos fag "duuude this hammer has the weight of the planet...Just ignore that its best feat is making 2 feet deep craters".
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>>153843418
K, B, C!
Unfortunately, with retarded lore scaling and 'statements' I feel like they'll somehow make Prime lose this
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Why are people claiming the Domain Expansion is popped against Base Denji when it's literally the last clip before the titledrop and we don't actually see Denji meaning it could take place at literally any point in the fight
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>>153843974
If Wolverine can survive a full powered blow from hulk that means someone weaker like The Thing wouldn't be able to Kill wolverine, yes thats how it works
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>>153843995
Anon the state swords compress entire fucking states into a weapon. That alone is a better destructive feat than anything in JJK
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Why do we still pretend the state swords are country level?
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>>153843913
>Why are you arguing in favor of a story you don't read?
Projection
>Pochita was getting obliterated the entire fight
Then why did Yoru lose and was sweating the entire time?
>The reason none of them were "losing" is because Death allowed herself to be eaten and everyone was immortal
So true! Look at how immortal those burnt up bodies are, why aren't they just regenerating through the burn? Don't they know that Death being gone gives you infinite regeneration?
>why did Pochita choose to kill itself instead of just turning into denjiman and killing all the bugs?
Because the earth was fucked. Did you read?
>destroyed everytime he was hit
Except when he was visibly in tact after getting hit with a power up slash so Yoru panicked and used a nuke
>She died against the bugs actually
Cool headcanon. She still had enough strength to run, like she said she wanted to do
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>>153844017
Yoru is so sexy... I'd let her weaponize me into whatever she wanted...
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hamburger jelquer.
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>>153844016
To be honest state level alone is higher than anything JJK can achieve
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>VSBW forum is clowning on the g1 blog for grossly wanking and exaggerating Denji’s “feats”
>Several people even said it’s retarded to scale Denji to gun goddess since he got fucking obliterated by every attack from it
Lmao you know it’s bad when that fucking place is calling out wank.
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>character gets split in half by a regular sword
>character gets split in half by a "country level sword"
>both of these are only survived through character's regen
>character's regen is based off his blood supply
>so clearly you have to either disintegrate said character or hit him enough times to overtax his regen
>UMMM NO HE HAS COUNTRY LEVEL DURABILITY ACTUALLY
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>>153844012
And the sword can't destroy buildings, obviously doesn't have the weight of a country because Yoru can stand in those buildings, and the shape of that sword is literally the letters "OREGON". God fucking dammit. Also the hax did it, not the sword.
>inb4. Ah well if the sword isn't country level, and the hax is, then why she didn't use that very niche hax to kill Denji? Also I am still arguing that the sword is country level so uh...
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JUST BECAUSE IT FULLY OBLITERATED ME DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T SCALE TO IT
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I've noticed the cope pattern with JJKbabies
They get cornered by Denji's superior feats, they start to downplay but can't do that because all the feats happen on screen and Yuji has far worse showings, so they look for anti feats or just the State swords to claim all Denji has is senseless wank
Meanwhile this feat right here is above anything Yuji can scale to.
This happens on screen and utterly monggs the Dust clouds, Pochita also survives a shot from the gauntlet created by this thing, and that Yoru was significantly weaker than the one he fought later.
What now? What's the cope?
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Why are all of Denji's dura feats just him getting absolutely obliterated, regenerating afterwards, and then retard scalers claiming that he "tanked" the attack that left him a severed head or torso?
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>>153844093
Can you fucking delete this?
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>>153844065
>Vs battle wiki kicks out Fate and SCP because "their verses are too complicated or fanfiction esque to scale"

>Meanwhile Death Battle is able to do episodes on both without nerfing the shit out of them

I remember when they said Falling Devil does not scale to her own gravity powers. Good times
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>>153844072
Smartest jjk fans
https://youtube.com/shorts/u-S2aVIoZ_s?si=Ha_pq_H581U1DD2z
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>>153844017
>Projection
>why doesn't Yoru weaponize her own weaponizing power, that surely would make her country-level o algo
?????
>Then why did Yoru lose and was sweating the entire time?
Because she is dishing out every attack in her arsenal and CSM just insta regens because death is no longer an option. She literally within the same chapter of the sword is asking him what the fuck did he do because their fight is never-ending. But she still won anyway, it's just that Denjiman took the reins after.
>So true! Look at how immortal those burnt up bodies are, why aren't they just regenerating through the burn?
retard lmao
>Because the earth was fucked. Did you read?
So? He is the strongest. Just kill all the bugs and win broooo...! Don't use your plot power to reset the world broooooo!!!
>Except when he was visibly in tact after getting hit with a power up slash
What the fuck are you talking about. The next panel literally shows him completely gored and regenerating afterwards.
>Cool headcanon
Nigga, you're the one that simultaneously admits that Yoru became bike accident level and still survived against the world-ending bugs.
Kek. I'm laughing my ass off writing this reply
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>just because that sword can't destroy buildings doesn't mean that it isn't country level? See, it was made out of countries. It must have the weight of a fucking country
Imagine being so retarded that VSBW (6D platonic sonic rocks) deny something. This has been going for HALF A MONTH, btw.
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>>153844072
>so clearly you have to either disintegrate said character
Too true, JJKek. Pochita definitely wasn't disintegrated or turned into a fucking tree while he was fighting a primal devil
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>>153844110
>*sniff* well you see youtube shorts...
KWAB.
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>>153844093
Nigger WHAT FEATS?
What feats does Denji have?
What's stopping Sukuna from Domain Expansioning him and ending the fight in a millisecond?
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>Yoru destroyed an entire state and explicitly turning it into a sword made a normal sword because... uhh... Buildings...
Death Battle isnt buying this. This is like saying Dragon Ball characters in Z/Super arent planetary because they fights on the earth and it doesnt get destroyed
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>>153844011
So true. So Wolverine is hulk-level guys. Scaling is courtesy of CSMfag.
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>>153843998
There's no way they won't have Denji go through all his transformations, win or lose.
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>>153844065
That's also true for Yuji though?
G1's calcs for the dust clouds are grossly over wanked, and so are their calcs for Sukuna dodging Kashimo's radio waves (VSBW has that at 0.13C for Sukuna dodging and 1,2C for the dismantle actually intercepting a "radio wave" both of these are slower than Yoru's summoning speed and Denji's Moon Spear dodge btw)
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>>153843932
Anon, tsurigi replicated the same feat as Yuji with a bunch of cursed spirits in that same chapter
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>>153844115
>Denji is a retard
>csmfans self insert as Denji
Do the math...
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>>153844129
>this counts as disintegration to a CSMbro
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>>153844129
>so clearly you have to either disintegrate said character
>Hahhahahah here is a panel showing the character NOT being disintegrated but I'll lump that in as if it proves anything! You're retarded!
kek
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Death Battle guys were at a convention i went to today.
It'll be Dexter
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>>153844134
Ki control is a thing, a very retarded thing, but still there there is no cope for explaining why something THAT HAS THE WEIGHT OF A COUNTRY, can't even destroy buildings, none at all, even arguing for suspending disbelief already pushes limits.
TLDR: AP is inherently magical in its nature and rapes and gapes basic bitch physics, so people can try to argue that AP isn't DC, meanwhile you can't do that with weight because...Well KE is a thing.
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>>153843702
>damage to country sized landmasses
Huh?
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>>153844097
>him getting absolutely obliterated
But that's not the case though?
You can clearly see his physical body still has some chunks felt after those massive attacks (attacks that are stronger than anything in JJK btw)
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>Heh... I just turned this ENTIRE COUNTRY into a SWORD
>W-What...? Is the sword country-level? O-Of course it is?
>Y-You want proof...? Uhh... H-Hold on, I left the proof in my other jacket...
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>>153844134
>Yoru destroyed an entire state
with her hax that requires her to claim ownership of whatever she uses it on
>turning it into a sword made a normal sword because
C'mon, csmbro. Why are you downplaying yourself? It's a below building level sword! It's clear by the feats!
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>>153844093
>JJKbabies completely ignore the feat that Outscales Yuji just to keep making straw mans over the State swords
Oh my god they are mindbroken, lmao
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>>153844093
CSM nigger this isn’t even city level and unironically worse than Yuji’s dust clouds.
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Hey there, Denjeetsaar, what's it like gooning your clitty?
I'm a thousand miles away, Dismantling your verse so shitty
Yes it is

Worse than Bleach or One Piss
Give Yoshida's asshole another kiss

Hey there, Denjeetsaar, don't you worry about the distance
I'm right there if you get lonely, use your FTL speeds to close it
Close your eyes
Only way to buy Gun Goddess scaling, it's all lies
For you wall level is too high

Oh, you have no durability

Oh, you have no durability

Oh, you have no durability

Oh, you have no durability

Themes and such
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>>153844145
>Spear is apparently ftl
>Said spear is only building level
>The spear traveling at ftl speeds only had enough power to destroy one building
Is G1 retarded?
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>>153844184
You think Death Battle is gonna make that distinction?
>Oooh Yoru turned a state into a sword and hit denji with it!
>Ooooh he regenerated from it
>Case closed!
Death Battle buys wank of every variety
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>>153844093
>barely damages a mountain
MY KING can destroy a mountain with his DICK.
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It's so weird how Yuji's main wincon is poison and people unironically buy Denji leeching off some random guy's "resistance" (to a non-descript poison with zero known potency) as his answer to it, or "blood healing will heal the poison!" despite the poison explicitly needing to be flushed out and not just regenerated from with RCT.
At least claim Denji will just speedblitz Yuji instead of leeching immunity.
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>>153844228
>Reddit filename
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>>153844113
>No argument for why Yoru just doesn't weaponize "muh compression hax"
I accept your concession
>She said their fight was never ending
Because of how strong Pochita was. Not because Death was erased. Death being erased doesn't give people infinite regeneration
>Retard
I accept your concession
>But human Denji died to bugs
The bugs solo JJK btw
>Gored
The next panel shows him instantly regenerating from the little damage he did take. His intestines spilled a bit and he was completely fine otherwise
>Yoru couldn't survive against the bugs
She had an army of other devils still and said she had enough strength to run. Did you think her plan was to have Denji transform and carry her?
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>>153844236
Well DB bought Faster than light light, and 7 million sized oceans that can be traveled with shitty sail boats. So I don't know mang...Also DB is already walking in a thin line with the BS they can get away in franchises that aren't Capeshit, or franchises whose fanbase already buys such nonsense (DMC and GOW).
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>>153844227
It is not.
>Explosion on mount Elbrus: 1.45 Gigatons of TNT
>Dust clouds: 382.69 Megatons of TNT
You are utterly fucked JJKek
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>>153844248
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>>153844268
She is using that building as support while welding an sword that has an entire country compressed inside of it?
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>>153844280
>>153844268
What can Denji do against Sukuna?
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>>153844236
True, but at the same time, it goes both ways. This means any retarded chainscaling can be done for Yuji too. So there is no point in arguing "but muh dust scaling!!" and then going "but DB won't see the difference between country-level sword so he gets that scaling!' or whatever. It's all about who gets wanked harder anyway.
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>>153844240
I though Yuji's main wincon was Domain Expansion and soul cutting.
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PLEASE tell me Yuji can at least do THIS
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>>153844173
>>153844177
>Turning into wood doesn't get rid of your blood
retard bros...
But fine, here's Pochita surviving disintegrating
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>>153844239
>Kratos has a 1 inch penis
>that's 1.315% of his height
>Kratos can oneshot 990 Million universes (holding back)
>1.3% of 990 Mill is 13,018,500
Kratos can do that to 13 Million Universes
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>>153844280
>explosion that kicks up a lot of dust is somehow stronger than the tsar bomba
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>>153844233
JJKbaby... Your verse was the one that started using Building level feats as City level ones
Also the spear took seconds to travel from the moon to Japan, that's Blatantly FTL or at least high Relativistic.
You quite literally can't argue with this
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>>153844302
If both of them get wanked as hard as possible, Denji wins. Im all for that. It'd be funny for Yuji to get fraudulent Planet scaling only for Denji to get star/light devil scaling.
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>>153844305
do what? go into space?
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>gets cut in half
>disintegration
Do CSMbros just not understand what disintegration mean?
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>>153844240
Genuine question if Denji/Pochita can reenter the Earth's atmosphere after being launched to space how fast does that make him compared to a JJK character?
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>>153844301
Blitz him in 0.1 seconds
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>>153844330
Yeah. Post Yuji TANKING a vacuum. Or re-entry.
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>>153844306
>Disintegration
Where? Looks like he got chopped into pieces here
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>>153844326
>denji gets star level scaling
would DB wanked Denji beat Omni-Man?
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>>153844324
>JJKbaby... Your verse was the one that started using Building level feats as City level ones
Who? The fucking "dust" one, because if you accept that it isn't dust, then it is a very clear city level feat at minimum.
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>>153844342
>post a heat resistance feat
Why? Denji doesn't use fire based attacks

Yuji can use Fuga anyway to incinerate Denji to ash
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>>153844280
>gigatons
>1000x stronger than tsar bomba
>bad math
How did G1 even reach such conclusions? I unironically trust AI to make better calculations than any fucking “powerscaler”.
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>>153844303
Not in my opinion. It makes more sense to focus on what we see actually happening than arguing about some stuff that may or not be true. "Can Yuji survive long enough to poison Denji?" seems like the big question imo. It could even be a stalemate from Denji killing Yuji, eating his blood, and immediately dying lmao.
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>>153844347
No because DB has scaled Omniman to above star level meaning Denji can't hurt him
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>I unironically trust AI
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>>153844337
According to G1 that feat is equivalent to Mach 2,371.17
While Yuji's best speed feat is mach 932.9 (he can get faster with scaling but so does Denji)
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>>153844339
>Slow-ass Denji with no martial arts training would gallop to Sukuna and somehow get a hit in
Come on man, even you know that's not how it's gonna go. I like Chainsawman more than JJK. I even cosplayed as Reze in a local con. But this is not a matchup we win. If it was just Yuji vs Denjiman, maybe. But because Sukuna is in the equation, this is impossible.
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>>153844346
>>153844333
>The Aging Devil whose abilities are entirely time based cut him in half despite the sound effects clearly supposed to be his body melting is a cut despite Aging being nowhere near him

I think the loss is melting JJKek's brains
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>>153844403
>I even cosplayed as Reze in a local con
TRANze...
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>>153844380
>Can Yuji survive long enough to poison Denji?
...no. He can't.
Denji can either just eat him entirely which would give him a bad stomachache but would kill Yuji immediately, or slice him apart before Yuji reinforces himself with CE.
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>>153844236
>Death Battle buys wank of every variety
That's the problem these days. Death Battle buys so much retarded shit it's really to dismiss what they will or won't buy.
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This is loser is at it again.
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Denjibros...

He surpassed our goat...

It's over...
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>>153844347
No because Omnichad outscaled SSJ Bardock who fought evenly against SSB in Heroes
Omniman is high universal minimum
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>>153844431
>Dog NIGGA
where do I read this manga?
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>>153844390
Anon. 1 gigaton is almost 20 times more than the fucking tzar bomb, yet that 1 gig explosion can't even destroy a mountain? Are you retarded, unironically even AI understands that.
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How tight is Nayuta's.....
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>>153844428
why would he still care. Godzilla literally walked into Marvel in canon years after that Death Battle and beat an amped Hulk up
>hace 2 h
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>>153844410
>heh actually it was the AGING DEVIL
So can we actually see the Aging Devil completely disintegrating Denji and him regenerating from it?
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>>153844418
Denji's not fast enough to completely speedblitz Yuji.
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>>153844347
What the other niggas said. OmniCHAD outscales bardock who is 5th dimensional because Heroes scaling.
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>doesn't know Dog Nigga
Gentle FUCKING men...you know what to do.
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>>153844428
>Makimamutt pic
Ha ha ha ha!!
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>>153844326
You forgot Denji scaling to Primals who can cover the entirety of a different dimension in darkness
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>>153844268
>I accept your concession
>No argument for my non-argument.
Kek
>Because of how strong Pochita was. Not because Death was erased
Within the same chapter:
>"What did you eat??? Chainsaw man!!! It's like an ending for our battle... no longer exists!!"
Chainsaw man famously grows stronger by eating shit, right? So clearly she is saying he ate some big macs before the fight and is now the absolute strongest! Holy fuark!
>I accept your concession
kek
>The bugs solo JJK btw
The strongest bug in JJK got soloed by Yuta easily. He probably solos CSM easily considering the strongest bugs are above city-block Yoru and Denjiman
>The next panel shows him instantly regenerating from the little damage he did take
The little damage in question. that's what TANKING a country level attack looks like btw. If that's tanking imagine what the buildings behind that only got cracked did. Probably no-sold the country-level attack.
>She had an army of other devils still and said she had enough strength to run
Hopefully the bug devils don't end up tripping her while she runs. That'd be the end of her!
>pic
Chainsaw man goes on the offensive and she blocks, right before goring him for 129301293021th time in the fight. Yup. Definitely matched her country-level sword.
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>>153844410
Now it's melting? I thought it was him tanking desintegration?
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I have an idea. Dump the entirety of the Oregon sword chapter here. It's 220 something.
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>>153844458
Quick question. Do trees have blood?
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>>153844465
>PLEASE gib us HEROES AND XENOVERSE scaling Ben and Chad!!! This is BASE Omniman and Metal Sonic we're up against!!
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G1 must be CSMfags, cause they can’t read or do math either.
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>>153844428
He’s no Tolejostar
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You know what fuck this shit. Show me a panel of the narrator explicitly stating that either of these characters are FTL!
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>>153844509
THE COPENING CONTINUES
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>CSMbro walks into a forest
>"OH MY GOD THERE'S NOTHING HERE!"
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>G1 must be CSMfags, cause they can’t read or do math either
Explain how G1 correctly guessed the correct outcome for everything fight since bardock vs omniman, while not sounding salty Yuji will lose.
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>>153844509
They literally had an entire cope segment dedicated to fanfiction about Yuji being a Touhou character (yes they name-dropped Touhou) and using all his attacks to weaken Denji to eventually win despite being weaker and slower
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>>153844515
authors don't count.
I'm a MHAbro and my dumbass author said All Might is only Mach 10 at his prime. Can you believe his honky nigga, he prolly never powerscale in him life
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>>153844486
Eh sure.
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>the everything fight
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>>153844532
Omniman should've lost that fight. So clearly G1 is retarded.
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>why is g1 so acc—
Because 99% of DB matches are shitstomps that even a chimp could predict.
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Will Yujeets end up permanently Mindbroken the same way Alucucks are?
That would be hilarious
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>>153842901
fpbp
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So could a nice soul spare me the preview?
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STOP THE COUNT!
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>>153842890
cheese ray + flight speed bullshit meaning cheese ray lands
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>>153844547
My predictions is that this will be weeb's version of Kratos vs. Asura. Denji will be wanked into infinity with retarded shit and Yuji will lose miserably and dies horribly to Denji while he quips.
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>>153844543
They predicted Bardock would win.
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>>153844573
He TANKED that btw.
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>Denji? 3x the speed of light because of my calcs. Does him moving at the speed of light make sense for the verse? Uhhhh...
>Yuji? Well his verse's antifeats mean he's slow as fuck! Nope, Denji doesn't have any antifeats like that, none whatsoever!
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Wait a minute when does Denji destroy the sword? cause looking at the chapter Yoru scarifies the people of Oregon to use Oregon slash and while Denji is regenerating from the attack she hits him with the nuclear punch
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>>153844593
What antifeats does Denji have for speed?
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>>153844471
>Within the same chapter
Yes, that's Pochita instantly regenerating from the amped up swing after mostly tanking it.
>But he's bleeding!
Seethe?
>Chainsaw man famously grows stronger by eating shit, right?
Nope. He was on Yoru's level before Death was erased. Which is why Death had to get him to fight her in the first place
>Yuta is gonna have to fuck all the bugs
Gross
>But Superman and Lex don't destroy metropolis every time they fight so Superman is building level
KEK
>She gored him!
He bleed and immediately got back up which forced her to nuke him. If Pochita wasn't stronger than the state sword, why'd she amp Oregon and where did her Michigan sword go?
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Which will result in more salt overall? Yuji losing or Denji losing?
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>>153844608
Yuji is like a billion times more popular than Denji.
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>>153844386
>>153844432
>>153844465
kek
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>>153844608
Yuji would cause more salt since chainsawman has been getting dunked on since the ending was shit
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>JJKfaggots tried to pick up fights with CHADhou
>Now they are claiming Yuji is like a Touhou character using Danmaku to win against Denji
KWAB
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>>153844538
>Visually on page all of the buildings and presumably the rest of the state's mass are fusing together and turning into a sword
This feels extremely conclusive. I don't think Death Battle will care about anti feats.
>>153844573
>Yoru hits him with it and it doesn't completely annihilate him but does cleave him in half
>>153844585
>Then he regens without any extra blood

Yeah this all feels fairly conclusive. I don't care how retarded it is I'm 100% certain Death Battle is buying it. If you buy planetary Dragon Ball this is the exact same shit you deal with.
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>please talk about Touhou
I don't know why self proclaimed multiversal verses keep beefing with street tiers
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>>153844626
>Yoru starts to panic as Pochita is about to break another state sword
OOF
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>>153844573
>Gets causally cut in half by the "country" level sword
>Denjeets: S-SEE HE HAS COUNTRY LEVEL DURABILITY!!!
Maybe you guys are schizos.
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>>153844608
Denji is more popular by far and is way more hated. Him winning is would also be considered an upset in most conventional powerscaler's minds.
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>>153844635
Not really if anything that's the expected outcome from the general public
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>>153844605
I don't know I'm not going to read Chainsaw Man. But he probably does. Yoru crashed into a wall or something.
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>>153844649
Ask the street tiers why did they wanted to beef with the OUTERVERSAL QVEENS in the first place
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Even if we act retarded and say the state sword is a literal state, how the fuck would Denji scale to it when every time he got hit by the thing it bisected him and he couldn’t damage it at all?
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This is literally the only feat the sword by itself has.
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>>153844608
Have you seen the seething and coping in this thread? Denji winning completely enraged JJKfags
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>>153844608
Yuji losing aka Denji winning will cause more anger.
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>>153844682
damn, that's 1 more feat than Bardock
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>>153844593
>Nothing in CSM contradicts the idea of Hero of Hell being 3 times the speed of light
>In fact he even dodged a FTL spear without much trouble giving the feat consistency
>In JJK however it is a crucial plot point that Yuji cannot be faster than light, as that verse follows the theory of relativity or whatever it's called.
>Ignoring this would contradict the entire main conflict of Modulo
Simple as
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>>153844691
Nah Bardock has "tanking" dodoria beam (so building level vs wall level+)
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>>153844681
>>153844626
>Couldn't damage it at all
>Is about to break it like he did with the Michigan sword so Yoru has to power it up

I've never seen JJKfags be so against on screen feats while eating up shit like city level meteor and dust scaling
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>>153844608
Denji losing.

Going 0-3 would legit make csmfans lose their minds. Also was the wait period for Gojo vs Makima also this schizophrenic?
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>>153844698
>Explodes into blood and gore
Tanked btw
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>>153844712
FUARK THAT'S AN FTL BEAST!
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>Pokemon and Sonic beef with MHA
>Touhou (a rung down) beefs with JJK (a rung down)
Who will beef with CSM?
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>>153844607
>Yes, that's Pochita instantly regenerating from the amped up swing after mostly tanking it.
Mostly doing a lot of work right there for sure. He MOSTLY tanked it by looking like a squeezed grape in a blood puddle
>>But he's bleeding!
>Seethe?
>only bleeding
kek
>Nope. He was on Yoru's level before Death was erased
Completely ignored your earlier argument about the battle being never-ending because he is stronger instead of him eating death to say this shit. Ok.
He is stronger than city-block level, cool.
>Gross
The cockroach CHAD is going to solo CSM as the king of the bugs. Imagine how powerful he will be with fear amp? Finally CSM will see a city-level character!
>KEK
>AP is not equal to DC cope
DONE!
>He bleed and immediately got back up which forced her to nuke him
>That's only bleeding
Kek!
>f Pochita wasn't stronger than the state sword, why'd she amp Oregon and where did her Michigan sword go?
I don't know CSMGOD! THANKFULLY you didn't even have to mention she used her trump card after that, her strongest possible attack.... A NUKE PUNCH! And it... barely destroyed the surroundings and just gored him like every other weaker attack... I mean not gored TANKED! He TANKED that! Wow. CSM is truly the strongest verse...
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>>153844729
Survived*
That attack would turn Yuji into mist btw
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>>153844682
>>153844698
>Denji is hit with a state level attack and is able to come back within a few seconds
Idk what this counts for but it counts for something. I feel like this outscales with Yuji can do.
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>>153844729
Are you RETARDED? He clearly just bled slightly, like a papercut...
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>>153844762
Duh
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Ze end. I hope this stops that retarded country level sword argument that has been going since the start of the MU.
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>>153844752
Yeah and it turned Denji into mist too but I've been repeatedly told that he TANKED this attack
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>>153844711
Remember when Pochita outright intercepted a spear being out of a star to this portal after it was fired? Just a reminder that JJKeks have been arguing that country level and FTL CSM is inconsistent
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>>153844762
Street level Deadpool could do that too.
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They're going do "muh respectful death" and you all know it
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>>153844743
>Leave the entire CSM verse to me!
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If the sword is a country then it's country level.
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>>153844780
>being out of a star
Also can you post this actually being stars in outer space
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>>153844796
Can you prove it?
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>>153844775
Yeah country level swords is wank since they did less then the nuke punch. That said the swords very clearly exceed Denji's durability since they just cut through him like butter
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>>153844698
>>153844728
>>153844740
>>153844761
>>153844775
>MY TRVMP CARD! NUKE PUNCH!
>City is still intact
What the fuck. Not even her trump card is city block... Surely Pochita TANKED that attack????
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>>153844766
>csmfans see this shit and think it's nothing more than a papercut.
JJk fans can't read, but CSM fans are actually fucking BLIND.
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>>153844796
Yeah this is how I feel. Denji was threatening to break it and was able to regenerate getting hit by it. Even scaling to 10% of small country level would shitstompm Modulo Yuji's dust clouds with wank.
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What can Denji even do against Yuji? He runs at him and attempts to slice him with chainsaws? Meanwhile Yuji is a martial arts adept guy who dodges and adapts and has Domain Expansion.
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>>153844815
What would happen to Yuji if he were left in that state?
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>>153844796
This lmao. It's so over for Yujeets
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>>153844698
>>153844728
>>153844740
why is her trump card a nuke punch?
surely swinging a sword with the mass of an entire state should be far more powerful than that...
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>>153844819
Are you forgetting Denji has more formal training and more street fight knowledge than Yuji. Denji was trained by the best devil hunter, Kishibe.
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>>153844819
you can't dodge someone even 2x as fast as you. Denji's millions of times faster
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>>153844743
Touhou can beef with all those verses, we have enough characters to do that.
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>>153844745
>looking like a squeezed grape in a blood puddle
He was bleeding after getting his intestines hit out and immediately came back
>But it was a noticable amount of blood so he didn't tank it!
LMAO
>The nuke didn't do anything!
They're far up in the sky fighting on doors to hell and it still fucked up the city. Sorry, JJKek. Yuji is fucked
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Personally I think they both suck
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THE SWORDS ARE IRRELEVANT, GUN GODDESS ALREADY MOGGS YUJI'S DUST
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>>153844832
and Yuji was trained by the best jujutsu sorcerer, Gojo
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Reminder 99% of powerscalers agree this is a solar system level attack
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>>153844796
This simple logical conclusion mind breaks JJKfags
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>>153844850
>He was bleeding after getting his intestines hit out and immediately came back
>He was bleeding and looked like a squeezed grape and his intestine were gored out, but he regenerated!!!
Yup the very definition of TANKED.
>They're far up in the sky fighting on doors to hell and it still fucked up the city. Sorry, JJKek. Yuji is fucked
Did you know all Nukes are airbust and typically detonated in the sky, retard bro? Because that increases its destructive capabilities? This nuke punch is literally below actual nukes.
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>>153844832
>>153844835
Am I being trolled right now or not? I can't even tell if these posts are genuine.
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>>153844871
>Gojo
You mean the guy who needs to scale to Jogo because he doesn't even have a single city Level feat?
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>>153844871
So Denji has just as much formal training as Yuji AND he's extremely good street fighting.
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>>153844871
And has 80 years of experience fighting curses and sorcerers.
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>>153844872
i remember when vegeta in this arc was punching super saiyan goku into a rock and between eachother they didn't even move the rock
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Let's be real for a moment...all nonsense scaling aside, Asta could NEVER beat Deku. You know that, right...?
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I just got here, who's winning right now?
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And like 95% of powerscalers agree every single punch that got blocked here is Universal+
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>>153844911
KINGtos
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>>153843139
>match AVGN wins
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>>153844911
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>>153844815
>HE'S BLEEDING A LOT SO IT ISN'T A DURABILITY FEAT
Keep in mind, Yuji's best durability feat is living a building level punch in which he starts puking up his own blood
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Your verse gets exploded. Now what?
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>>153844911
Yuji.
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>>153844945
>niggerbabble
this counts as wit to a Yujiblack
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>>153844935
I explode in pussy.
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>>153844954
>Yuji Fans are Black
>Denji fans are Brown Spics
The Ultimate Battle.
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>>153844914
WALLku!
TOWNren...
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>>153844911
Pokegods are having to gape irrelevant franchises, what else is new?
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>>153844876
>Squeezed out grape
>Intestines
Pochita wears his intestines as a fucking scarf and a direct hit from a powered up state sword let him more intact than Yuji vs buildings

>Nukes are actually stronger if there is no ground zero!
Cool story. The explosion is still far up in the sky and still managed to hit the city under them
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>>153844991
STOP GAPING MY VERSE, PLEASE!
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>>153844980
I'm not the only black CSM fan right?
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>>153843139
>Match AVGN negdiffs
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White people?
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>>153845004
Yugi...
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>>153844775
>>153844761
>>153844740
>>153844728
>Yoru trained in the Nuclear fusion dojo
I already know who's winning this...
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I need CSM to go 0-3. Goku needs some company, the man is getting lonely in the loser corner and an entire verse of bums to hang out with would be good for him.
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>>153844993
What the fuck is Denji gonna do against a Domain Expansion?
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>>153844991
>>153845031
Ash lost, Pokecucks. Get over it.
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>>153845038
Get out of the way? That shit caps at like 400 meters with wank
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>>153845038
Nothing. It's an instant lose for him.
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>>153844889
Okay, but Yuji has the formal training, and in Modulo he's now had 60+ years of training/fighting since then.
>>153844910
CHAD CHATTLE says otherwise.
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>>153845036
We had Charizard lose three times, but technically there were all three different Charizards.
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>>153845032
Yoru should be able to kill Sukuna with the nuke punch simply because the thermal damage from a nuke would vaporize Sukuna whilst Yoru would tank it.
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>>153845047
And the "easiest Fanbase to bait" award goes to....
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>>153844932
>is living a building level punch
ESLji...
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>>153843164
Even Kratos?
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>>153845038
Interrupt Yuji before he opens it?
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>CSM
>JJK
who cares, Mereoleona kills DENJEET and YUJEET with no diff
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>>153845080
I said Most.
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>>153845081
In Death Battle, characters always get to use their big thing. Even in the preview, Yuji was already foreshadowing it. The fact that they're saving DE for the climax of the battle means it's game over for Denji.
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>>153845038
>Teleport to hell
>Regen
>Just run out of it
>Just run at Yuji at kill him
>Tank the hit
>Eat the curse devil

Take your pick
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>>153845065
To be fair, so were the Gokus.
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Reminder Yuji barely survived a weakened Sukuna's domain expansion and if it wasn't for choso he would've died.
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>Both franchises debuted against each other
>Both fought BnH as their second fight and both lost against it
>Now they will fight again and if Denji wins they will end up with the exact same scores
Implying Denji wins so both JJK and CSM end up mirroring each other what's the future for both franchises in DB?
Sukuna jobbing against Yoru for the tie breaker?
Sukuna stomping Muzan and CSM getting a Kimetsu Match up?
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>>153845080
Yes
>>153845108
The preview showed Denji using DE early on against normal Chainsaw Man Denji.
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>>153844911
Denji. The JJKek melty is proof of it
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>>153845122
Muzan is for Michael Jackson
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>>153845067
>pokejeet melty
ASH LOST. GET OVER IT. YOUR VERSE JOBS TO SWORDS.
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>>153845148
This has to be a falseflag...
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>>153845131
It literally has the climax cut to Yuji activating Domain Expansion
We literally have no idea at what point the DE is activated given Denji isn't on screen during it
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>>153845122
>Power vs Nezuko
>Power looks at Nezuko and blows her up

I've got nothing else for CSM vs Demon Slayer
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Can someone post Yugi destroying a mountain?
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Let's start from zero.
Show me Yuji and Denji's biggest feats.
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>>153842968
>Fight Superboy prime obviously wins
What a boring matchup.
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>>153844993
>from a powered up state sword let him more intact than Yuji vs buildings
Lmao. He sure looks very intact. He just bled a little. It's comparable to Yuji gettng punched in the gut with no reinforcement or healing, vomiting blood then getting back up immediately next chapter. For sure!
>>Nukes are actually stronger if there is no ground zero!
>Cool story. The explosion is still far up in the sky and still managed to hit the city under them
I know CSMfags are low IQ but every single nuke is designed to be airburst because it has a much higher range of destruction. This isn't even up to discussion, it's literally a fact that you can easily google. So your argument of "It was detonated up in the air, which is why it didn't do much!" is completely braindead retarded. The ground zero of an airburst nuke is directly below its explosion where the effects of overpressure, heat, radiation etc are at its strongest.
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>>153845031
>>153845047
>1 minute apart exactly
>>153845067
>1 minute and 16 seconds
How peculiar.
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>>153845165
The background is completely the same as it was in the earlier scenes...

Just accept that Yuji had to use DE against base Denji. Not even Black Chainsaw Man
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>>153845172
I-I...
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>>153842968
I remembered asking anons here about this matchup YEARS ago damn
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I am so tired of brainlets equating hax to power level. That’s literally why it’s called hax, because it’s not the same as physical stats.
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>why does the DE take place in the same location they're fighting in
Also isn't the previous scene Denji powering up
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>*Yuji barely recovers from Denji kicking him in the balls*
>Yuji activates his DE on Hybrid Denji
>Denji seems to get defeated
>Denji turns into Denjiman after the smoke clears and blitzes right up tp Yuji's face
>You were amazing Itadori Yuji, I wont forget you as long as I live
>I-I-It doesn't matter
>It... does matter. I have a dream, I want to live a normal life and die a normal death. I want to eat steak everyday and I want to have lots and lots of SEX!!! If you're going to get in our way, THEN DIE!!!!
>*Decapitates Yuji*
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>>153845156
I mean Yugifags are the guys that got baited into fighting the whole thread because of a MHAfag.
Nowadays they claim it was a MHAfag hiding behind Yu-Gi-Oh but you can go look at the archives to see how the only reason people found out about that was because the Bakugoufag decided to announce it himself.
These people get baited by fucking everything...
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>>153845193
BLACKED Chainsaw Man? YABBA DABBA DOO now I'm interested in CSM!
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Imagine leaving Earth like a bitch and then getting btfo by the guy who came after you
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>BLACKED Chainsaw Man? YABBA DABBA DOO now I'm interested in CSM!
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Can someone post Yuji tanking a city level attack that wasn't a domain expansion or with simple domain a technique specifically used to counter cursed energy and domain expansions?
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>>153845233
Denji was TEACHING Yuji about a higher heaven and that she should prioritize fucking whores and eating good food over his friends and family...
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>>153845233
Shouldn't Denji instantly lose the moment he enters Yuji's domain?
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>another unprompted melty and anklebiting about Yugioh
You love to see it.
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I'm just saying, if Muppets aren't popular, how come they got a new roller coaster at Disney world, and Superman and Sonic didn't?
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>>153845268
Not really since his dismantle and cleave should be weaker than Sukuna's
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>Nobody can post Yugi destroying a mountain
I'm noticing...
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>>153845268
Maybe but it's way more CINEMATIC if Denji uses Denjiman to cheat death and BTFO Yuji so we're getting that.
Not like he doesn't do that in the series.
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>>153845268
Yes, especially if it’s Modulo Yuji. But who knows, DB might make up some bullshit to give CSM its pity win to prevent the 0-3.
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>>153845283
>Denji's dismantle and cleave should be weaker than Sukuna's
based on what?
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>>153845184
You weren't supposed to point that out...
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>>153845182
>getting back up immediately next chapter
So he was out of commission for an entire chapter while he was friends were dying? Why didn't he just get up and stop that? Is he stupid?

>But nukes are airborne!
These are the first nukes, retard. Which directly hit Japan. Also they're not just airborne, they're in the sky far above the city
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>Ashgi out of literal fucking no where
I wonder who would gain from the topic suddenly changing to Ashgi shitposting right now...
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>>153845242
>>153845252
it's interesting Yujijeets project a blacked fetish onto Makima, when Gojo literally has a canon and recurring character trait where he fanboys over male niggers and literally thinks the black race are superior.
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>>153845319
This guy.
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>>153845268
>Gets turned into red mist constinuously after already likely having his blood supply depleted + soul damage + possibly poisoned from Yuji's blood.
That'd definitely be one way of ending it. Can't wait to see Denji tanking the DE in his base form, though, because muh country-level!
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Wait a minute. Denji doesn't have cursed energy. Shouldn't he no sell Domains like Maki did with Cursed Spirit Naoya?
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>>153845307
Based on what we saw in his fight against sukuna and the fact a much weaker sukuna needed to get sneaked by Nobara's CT in order to successfully get killed by Yuji's domain expansion.
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>>153845268
>MUH FEATLESS SOUL DAMAGE
So if his soul damage is so strong, why did he need multiple hits and outside help to separate Sukuna from Megumi and why is there not a single on screen instance of him destroying a soul?
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>>153845339
Okay, but Yuji has now had 60+ years of training and fighting using his abilities.
He's surpassed Sukuna and Gojo by Modulo.
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What's Denji's best actual tanking feat? Not regenerating. Actually tanking an attack.
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>>153845306
What's with your 0-3 obsession? Csm has only had one death battle match.
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>>153845364
Forgetting Bakugo vs Reze so quickly now, are we?
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>>153845356
I guess the reze shit and surviving getting all of his blood wrung out of him like a towel and his fight with the cockroach devil and the gun fiend.
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>>153845354
Some bullshit about sukuna understanding his soul, so he was able to soften the blows of Yuji's CT and anti domain techniques like hollow whisker basket or whatever the fuck it was called.
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>>153845384
Yeah, it was a pretty forgettable match. That's my bad.
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>>153845356
Blocking 12 bangs from Yoru in a row
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>casually takes away and reboots 10 years of a DC universe and btfos Superman and only lost due to persuasion and ideals
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No one knows what Yuji's domain does, and I'm tired of acting otherwise.
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>>153845461
Yeah we just assume it's like Sukuna's and isn't a mix of his two cursed techniques
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>>153845356
He tanked sniffing Makima's sweaty feet for SIX HOURS STRAIGHT!!
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>>153845319
Name a good Sonic game. Ill wait.
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>>153845384
Everyone forgot the meme matchup because it was a shit episode
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>>153845498
Sonic 3 and Knuckles, Sonic the fighters and Sonic adventure not DX though
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>>153845522
I asked for good games not mediocre. Where is Sonic's Mario 64 or Galaxy equivalent?
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>>153845399
I remember Sukuna being able to use RCT on his soul because of him being a reincarnated sorcerer but not anything on how he would be reinforcing his soul
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>>153845316
>So he was out of commission for an entire chapter while he was friends were dying?
He was sent flying and the next chapter he is right there jumping up to start fighting Sukuna
>These are the first nukes, retard. Which directly hit Japan
Actual retard.
>Because Little Boy was an air burst 580 meters (1,900 ft) above the ground, there was no bomb crater and no local radioactive fallout
>A "Fat Man" bomb was dropped over Nagasaki, Japan, on Aug. 9, 1945, near the end of World War II. Released by the B-29 Bockscar, the 10,000-pound weapon was detonated at an altitude of approximately 1,800 feet over the city.
Even modern nukes are designed to be airburst. They're airburst because it maximizes the destruction and range, plus it diminishes radioactive fallout. e.g. the entire W87 line is made to detonate airburst as well as contact.
The nuke should have obliterated anything near its ground-zero with overpressure. It's weaker than actual nukes. You earlier argument is braindead.
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>>153845455
Didn't the universe automatically restart because of superman or some shit. Something about his narrative being so powerful that universe just restarts around him.
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So, if manga Giovanni has a bunch of planetary Pokémon on his side...what's he doing picking on city-level AFO anyway?
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>>153845461
If you have more than one technique you choose what is the sure hit effect of your domain. Yuji also has Shrine (Sukuna's technique) and can shoot out dismantles. No reason why Yuji can't use his own version of Malevolent Shrine.
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>>153845338
Please understand, verse equalization...
But only for that, you can't give Denji innate understanding of his soul based on him being a single body with 2 souls despite JJK's own narrative stablishing that's all it takes.
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>>153845498
Sonic Adventures 2
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>>153845494
My Queen's feet are so perfect and immaculate...
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>>153845567
>He was sent flying and the next chapter he is right there jumping up to start fighting Sukuna
Right after being visibly knocked out
>Anything near it's ground zero
It's a good thing the city was nowhere near the explosion as Denji and Yoru were fighting on doors in the sky and the city still was hit
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>>153845588
He has one planet level Pokemon and a bunch of Pokemon that can scale to city level.
Plus his organization has access to legendaries that could scale to Mountain level
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Show me Makima's ass tanking a big cock.
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>>153845648
Nobody here can perform such a feat and survive to tell the tale...
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>>153845610
>Sonic glitchfest 2 this time with even fewer good levels and a broken emerald radar
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You notice that?
>40 minutes apart.
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I win.
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>>153845677
Vaguepostbro... Please have mercy on us
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>>153845692
We know, Thragg.
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Gentlemen... As the GUARDIAN and MAIN CHARACTER of /dbg/ I will remain silent no longer... On the matter of Yuji VS Denji, I will support...
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>>153845494
hi
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>>153845692
As always, Reimu
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...Denji
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>>153845692
Rex...
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>>153845629
>Right after being visibly knocked out
So a weaker Yuji, with no reinforcement or using any regen, got knocked out for like a single instant by a punch by Sukuna that sent him flying through a building and then he immediately got back up, got right back to where he is and was ready to fight in the next chapter. Whare is the gotcha exactly? Because this is not at all comparable to Pochita and Denjiman at their strongest consistently getting obliterated and gored by attacks that don't even destroy buildings unless you massively cope about AP not equal to DC.
>It's a good thing the city was nowhere near the explosion as Denji and Yoru were fighting on doors in the sky
The ground zero is underneath the blast in airburst nukes, retard. Holy fuck, I started this having fun now I'm just getting mad at your stupidity.

You win, faggot. The nuke is planetary because muh AP is not equal to DC or whatever. There you go.
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>>153845645
So why is he picking on a group of city level fighters?
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>>153845713
...the BETTER MAN!
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Friendly reminder this is the first waiting period of the year with actual heated debates between the combatants.
Making it unironically the best one so far
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>>153845692
AVGN...
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>>153845713
Kingtos you need to support a fellow chainscaling and frau... I mean statementsman. In that case, you should support...
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>>153845727
...'s cute ass
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>>153845745
You can wank AFO to continental I guess
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>>153845773
... Itadori Yuji!
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>>153845773
GODji!
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>>153845645
Giovanni's bear is universal due to scaling.
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>>153845692
Son Goku
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ENOUGH. What should I study to become smarter and a better powerscaler? Thermodynamics or Mechanics of Materials?
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>>153845909
What? It's gay porn or cuck porn.
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>>153845734
>no reinforcement or using any regen
Proof he didn't have this?
>He immediately got back up
Took him a chapter to do this while everyone else was holding off Sukuna
>Yuji getting knocked out by a building level punch is actually impressive!
>But Pochita getting "gored" (Pochita wears his intestines as an accessory) by a country level attack is weak!
LOL
>The ground zero is under the explosion
So the doors and not the city? JJKeks can't even downplay right
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>>153845937
>>153845937
>>153845937
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>>153845909
Theology, Mathematics, Philosophy, various theories about the universe (including ancient ones that may not necessarily be correct).
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I can feel it filling up my lungs! OXYGEN! The powerhouse chemical!
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>>153844914
I mean, in the show they explicitly stated that every single blast Kefla was firing would've blown up a universe and she was firing like hundreds of them.
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>>153845909
Kratos cookbook
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>>153846013
Screencap?



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