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Jesus christ is the pushed morality retarded.
This character is the worst
>Nooo I actually killed the psychotic evil murder man who tried to murder my family
>On accident!

Like what a retard. And fagot
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>>153859207
comic is better
he's more concerned with the fact he killed his only way out
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>>153859320
>he's more concerned with the fact he killed his only way out
Yea this be a far more concerning thing to bad the retarded writers drag this
>WA WA WA I killed crazy evil murder man WA WA WA
Even after he is rescued.

I have seen this retarded morality in lots of shows and it makes me so angry!
Especially that they literally made the evil man 300% irredeemable he is literally crazy.
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>Killing absolutely irredeemable evil monsters is le bad!
Why are shows like this?
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>>153859207
>Killing a psychotic murderer is BAD
>Killing a defenseless unborn baby is GOOD
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>>153859590
Stfu
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>>153859548
Because all media is controlled by the elites who want their cattle to be as sympathetic as possible to their superiors, while ultraviolent to lesser people or equals.
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>>153859610
Now this is a new theory.

I was only thinking these retarded leftist writers where trying to signal
>Nooo killing bad bad bad
And
>Nooo feel sympathy for murderers!!!!!!!!!
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pathetic
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Hes the kind of fagot who gets raped by a woman!
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>>153859207
He was scared of becoming like his father.
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>>153859885
More shit that makes no sense.
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>>153860090
Yeah everyone loves turning out like their father that kills tons of innocent people and holds their children in front of moving trains.
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>>153861221
>and holds their children in front of moving trains.
Who does zero damage to him.
>that kills tons of innocent people
LE innocent people
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>>153859590
They're both good
Killing retards like you, even better
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>>153859207
Mark had more of a reaction to Oliver killing the Mauler twins than hearing Eve aborted his child.
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>>153859207
>Mark feels stressed about being like his father
>bad guy shows up and starts pressuring him
>Mark tries to de-escalate things
>"fite me faggot"
>Mark gets angry and smashes their head open
>they survive and come back next season
>this happens again at the end of the next season
I still have no idea why Kirkman did that.
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>>153861342
Scratch your head long enough and maybe in a hundred years you'll start to figure out why that is unless /pol/ does all your thinking for you
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>>153859885
I feel like there's a world of difference between killing in self-defense and "I don't care about these lesser lifeforms and now I will violently conquer the planet in the name of interstellar imperialism".
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>>153861358
>>Mark tries to de-escalate things
LOL imagine trying to force this made up interpretation.
Crazy psycho with a knife next to your family.

>de-escalate
Like fucken take him out already you dumb fuck! Yes this includes killing him.

I swear this show is made for leftist manchildren.
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>>153859590
they hated him for he spoke the truth
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>>153861439
Yes
Kirkman made the show specifically for that audience. And also retarded women
whoops, tautology
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>>153859788
Pretentious shock value, it's supposed to be a traumatic event by it's drawn like a sex fantasy
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>>153861439
>>153861511
The hell are you talking about? Mark tried to talk him down and stop him from attacking his family. That's not an interpretation; that's just objective fact.
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>>153861524
>>>Today I will draw my rape fetish comic that pretends to be all about seriousness and trauma
Every time.
Many hutch cases in webcomic, the traditional media keeps getting away with the bullshit while webcomic artists get crucified by the internet.
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>>153861539
The chatbot broke.

Square
>>Mark tries to de-escalate things
With
>>Mark tried to talk him down and stop him from attacking his family.

And still the message is
>You are evil if you accidentally kill the evil psycho man
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>>153859207
Mark at this point is supposed to still be bound by your traditional "Heroes DON'T KILL" values that he always looked up to
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>>153861774
>Heroes DON'T KILL
Was always gay.

Meanwhile when Mr. Discord mod walks up to your door to inspect your doughier every normal human basically kills him.
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>>153859207
>>153861774
For everyone who tries to defend this shit show remember it did give us the same retardation of the father who
>HOW DARE YOU HAVE MAGICAL POWERS TO CREATE GOLD OUT OF NOTHING FOR ME!
>THAT IS UNNATURAL!
>I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS FREE TICKET TO FREE MONEY!
>I WILL ONLY WORK MINIMUM WAGE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!
Did say no human EVER.
There are characters designed by the utterly deranged!

Meanwhile in the real world
>Oh honey make more gold for daddy, love you!
>Daddy needs a new Ferrari sweetheart.
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>>153861955
This always kills the fanboys.
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>>153861955
>having principals is bad
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>>153862560
>much insane principles
Are insane!
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>>153862560
>I'm a NEET
Work for 2 years this will cure you of your retardation.
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>>153862700
are you retarded
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>>153859207
>>153859610
this

kipo did the same thing. it's just the joker scenario. they want the working class to think it's wrong to kill objectively evil people like war criminals and never have a revolution
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>>153859788
-he let it happen, he's fought stronger enemies
-cries about it later, which doesn't make sense considering he's been involved in far worse violence
-for atom eve, who aborted his baby for no fucking reason
-and he never had to pay child support either, so there are zero consequences for him
-and of course there are zero consequences for anissa, because she's a woman

it's a panel of female privilege. how many women do you know that go to jail for wrapping their legs around a dude they were fucking so he couldn't pull out, then ruined his life with financial rape when she should have been the one paying. they say you can revoke consent at any time but really that's a rule that only applies for women
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>>153863395
>are you retarded
Are you a NEET?
Answer the question!

Do you pay your own bills big boy?
How do you not grasp what a blessing free money is?
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>>153862560
principles*

if you're concerned about ethics, they can use the money for charity and humanitarian purposes, retard
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>>153859640
>I was only thinking these retarded leftist writers where trying to signal
All commonly held opinions were created by the elites and pushed onto the masses to empower the elites in some way. Yes, that includes both left and right wing opinions.
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>>153863571
>if you're concerned about ethics, they can use the money for charity and humanitarian purposes, retard
The principle is insane.

Apparently getting money that was created from magical(because this is what her mutant power is) gold is non-kosher or haram or not-vegan or unethical or something. This is never explained in any way.

The same is true for the X-men however it is not this level of retarded specially for this universe.

Like is he a member of the church of anti-magic or some shit? Like it makes sense if they make a ideology or religion that says
>Thou shell not transmute matter using magic
Or that atomic bonds are secret

>EVE!
>How dare you!
>In this house we do not split atoms apart! Atoms are secret and can not be split for it is a great sin!
>Atoms are INDIVISIBLE!
>We need to read you Issac Newtons Principia Mathemathica ageing!
>If you reject that you start having down quorks and strange quorks and then cats are both alive and dead and the world makes no sense!
>THOU SHELL NOT DIVIDE ATOMS INTO PARTS!

Like some Luddite thing or something.
>No one can have this kind of power!

However this small plot line comes out of nowhere, hangs on for 2 episodes and is forgotten.

May allah forgive me for saying this however even the boys are better. Butcher hates all super powers however he is a weirdo in a universe who loves them.
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>>153861417
1/100 is bigger than 0/100
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>>153863961
>This is never explained in any way.
He has the fairly classic male pathological need to be the breadwinner, to feel needed, and to feel in control of his family. People like him are a lot rarer nowadays than when the comic was written (and even then they were rarer than when the author was growing up), but they exist and are quite retarded. Listen to enough MGTOW youtubers and you will eventually come across one.
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>>153861524
>supposed to be a traumatic event by it's drawn like a sex fantasy
All good sex is both
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>>153861955
He is a honest man working an honest life when there are no shortcuts for your average Joe. Plus he he just would have been crucified by the blue-haired land whales for taking advantage of Eve's abilities. Eve's parents deserve so much more then being unknowing providing an ungrateful annoying parasite such as Eve.

It's honestly very disappointing that there are no SI/OC's isekaied into Eve's adoptive father so they can go 'nope I'm not letting this leech pretend to be my daughter and instead use satanic/voodoo shit to save my actual real daughter this time because of Le sad past of taking my previous family from me' past.
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>>153864083
>He has the fairly classic male pathological need to be the breadwinner,
>Source
>Fictional characters in fiction written by mentally ill schizos
Yea NO.
in the real world parents will literally milk their kids for money.
Best example of this is the Home Alone kid once he hit big his dad did milk him to make money by getting him into the Richie Rich movie etc.

>the breadwinner
Fun fact the dad of the home alone kid has like some minor background extra acting roles only. He literally was a failure in the business and decided to get all his money by working his own child HARD.

THIS IS THE REAL WORLD!

>listen to enough MGTOW y
NO. You work for 2 years nonstop 40h weeks and you will be cured of your insanity.
>Be a NEET and listen to other retarded NEETs and griffters then
NO. You work and the back braking grind will cure you of opinions made up by the mentally ill.
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>>153864256
>there are no shortcuts
See: >>153864783
You work for 2 years nonstop 40h weeks and you will be cured of your insanity.
>no shortcuts
After 2 years of work you will be looking for some shortcut or see enough people trying to desperately escape their miserable resistance that you will be cured.
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>>153864256
>satanic/voodoo shit
Read: >>153863961
It is never established what kind of magic is non-kosher or haram or not-vegan or unethical or something.

May allah forgive me for saying this however even the boys are better. Butcher hates all super powers however he is a weirdo in a universe who loves them.

And this is never explained or explored. Shows like this never explain why these people hate supers. There is no religious explanation or that they are part of the neo-amish or Luddites or something!

Why can the writers never make a believable politics of their world? If superpowers became real there be a minimum of 2 political positions about them that would materialize the same way political positions on AI became a thing after 2021.
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>>153859207
*by accident
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>>153864783
Are you seriously so stupid that you can't comprehend that more than one world view exists?
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>>153865511
>one world view exists?
And literally NO ONE in the real world has this retarded worldview.

Oh there are worldviews lots of them only none are the one from theshow.

1) It is incoherent trash therefore it can not be implemented in any human.

2) The
>I am the only one making money in this family
that you try to meme (not in the show!) very quickly will cease to exist in anyone who actually works a dead end job!
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>>153859590
If the mother wants to kill her own unborn baby, then it would be retarted to stop her.
Scum is trying to remove itself from the genepool and you want to stop it?
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>>153859590
Mark is a dumb teenage hypocrite with non-existence morality permanence. He can only excuse horrible actions if they are done by his loved ones.
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>>153859207
This is unrealistic guilt tripping for moral grandstanding. I don't think anyone could blame someone for violently murdering someone that tried to kill all they love and hold dear. The retardation that being morally ethical makes it so they are weak or unable to compartmentalize their own violent tendency for revenge is not only childish but self serving.
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>>153859207
It's not so much that killing is wrong under 99% of circumstances.
It's more the fact that Mark in this case can't cope with killing others, and pusing back these feelings and going through with it anyway might set him spiralling down a dark path.
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>>153866312
The fact is the moral of the story is might makes right and the mightiest one also happens to have morals to enforce his ethics.
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>>153859207
Obvious bait is obvious but the entire point of Mark's character arc for the first few seasons is literally him OVERCOMING that no-kill mentality and deciding "yeah some people deserve to die actually"
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>>153866305
Yea.
I actually miss when fiction did have real valid debates on one issue people talked about.

Now it is batman retardation up 50000%
>Whats this I throw bombs and grenades all over the place and the bad people died?
>THAT IS unPOSIBLE!

It is like people took the batman meme (because in most cartoons it was never stated) that hen ever kills or uses guns and then applied that logic to the extreme on characters who exist in a realistic setting.

Actually you notice that in the old cartoon batman never states his hatred for guns or that he never kills.
These subjects never come up and you can equally interpret him as some crazy psycho who throws grenades at people and by pure luck no one dies.

Other cartoons literally did the
>killing people without killing them
solution.
Fav
>That dart gun that erases your memories
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>>153866351
>missed the point
I've noticed posters are now generally dumber compared to just a couple of years ago.
Is it something new in the water?
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>>153866358
>of Mark's character arc
Character arc are pure bad writing 100% of the time and a retarded concept.

>that no-kill mentality
See retardation.

I am not re watching season 1 however he either killed or recklessly punched (blood and gore come out) aliens and was not having any objections to aliens being killed by other supers and the military.

And ignoring this he is totally fucked in the head he did see the same aliens kill humans and has no real reaction to that.

>OVERCOMING
I remind everyone that this show is retarded as fuck omniman could have totally won if he did say these words
>Cecil killed the guardians and is trying to kill me, he is part of a secret organization that took over the government.
>Do not trust him he is laying and faked all evidence!

Instead of his shit.
This will get his family on his side.
Possible get other humans on his side and after the war he can introduce the empire to earth as le help.
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>>153861955
He simply doesn't want gold to be inflated by his dumb bitch ward pretending to be his dead daughter, who has no concept of responsibility nor economics
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>>153866882
>economics
LOL.
>He simply doesn't want gold to be inflated
Fun fact this is impossible and a very strange position since no one holds it in reality.

>gold to be inflated
It iwll nto be we are increasing the suply of gold for years with mining and the price increases(deflation) if magic gold creation does not overwhelm the gold mining industry and these amounts will not then it has no effect on any economy that is bad.

Did you know super rich propel buy food with gold in it and eat it? That gold is then lost since it goes to the sewer.

There are lots of places that remove or lock gold for a long time like jewelry.

He literally has a goose that can give golden eggs and he decides to be a retard instead.
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>>153866699
You're not to bright now are you?
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>>153866743
>I remind everyone that this show is retarded as fuck omniman could have totally won if he did say these words
All of the timelines where Nolan converted Mark probably went something along these lines
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I really wish there was more Multiverse stuff. Now that the MCU has crashed and burned after firing Kang, I think the fatigue might be at an end.
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Even the Bible says it's fine to kill in self defense and the defense of others. Thou shalt not kill meant not killing just to kill, because that's evil.
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>>153863961
is that trump lol
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>>153869340
Bait
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>>153868779
Would she keep the baby?
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>>153859207
He had a pretty mundane life until 17 and as soon as he gets his powers he gets beaten to near death every week so much he probably high-fived the grim reaper. Mark's a jobbing retard but it doesn't come out of nowhere if you really think about it
>>153859548
In-universe? Superheroes instilling fear into people's hearts usually goes sideways fast. In real life? It's better to not give the serfs any bright ideas.
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>>153861955
Yes, he's an abusive asshole, that's the point.
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>>153861955
>>153870264
fuck me, you're all retarded
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>>153859207
The comic does eventually end on Mark conceding that killing is ultimately necessary
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>>153859207
What was the mind set about this?
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>>153866743
>And ignoring this he is totally fucked in the head he did see the same aliens kill humans and has no real reaction to that.
He completely loses it when his father starts killing people left and right, the fuck are you on about
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>>153870072
>he gets his powers he gets beaten to near death every week
And the best part he loves it and it fixes nothing.
The psychology of these retarded characters is totally impossible.
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>>153870072
>Superheroes instilling fear into people's hearts
WTF am I even reading?!

>fear
Meanwhile in the real world the police will run in yell 1 warning and gun down any civilian who they do not like.
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>>153872288
>the fuck are you on about
GO into alien encounter.
>Humans die
>Have freekout
This never comes up again. Like literally never, he it 100% fine and never talks about it.

>the fuck are you on about
Aliens show up and start killing humans.
He or other heroes or the military kill the aliens in return.
Literally no moment of self reflection.
However magically now
>killing the psychotic evil people is bad!

>the fuck are you on about
Watch episode 2 you clown!
And yes it is silly.
>umm the police was only shooting rubber bullets at the aliens who where murdering humans
>umm all the explosions made by eve detonating alien tanks did not kill any alien
>umm rex throwing exploding object at aliens did not kill any of them!
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>>153859610
I can't wait until the day that all peasants have mandatory mind control chips implanted in their brains at birth. We WILL kill free will in the name of pointless, petty, spiteful sadism.
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>>153859473
esl saar
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>>153861955
Almost as if hate isn't rational...
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>>153859207
The whole point was to make the whole superhero no-kill code look retarded.

>>153874247
Sure it is, but not when it's a retarded strawman.
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>>153859207
he didn't feel bad for angstrom, he thought that he was losing his humanity from murdering others just like his dad
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>>153861955
>Meanwhile in the real world
If Eve were a white aryan man, then yes. Since she's a woke feminist however, it pisses him off that she's superior to him.
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>>153874247
>Le hate!
LMFAO!
WTF you clown you realize that literally no one in history did feel your le hate?
Like this is some retardation your leftists master did feed you from funny TV man.

Imagine saying this shit!

>rational
Did you ever talk to a racist? Serious question how many racist friends do you have?
>I am the rational one!
Yes sure you are with retarded catch phrases and never talking to people of the other side you hate.

Talk to some racists on /pol/ and tell me how you stand up to that.


>>153874305
>Sure it is, but not when it's a retarded strawman.
Actually not only this. Retarded kids and leftists who say this literally never talked to real life racists. Because if they did th racist will talk abotu statistics etc.
Literally no one is
>AAAAA I hate the other races AAA I am so full of hate
Like literally no one is like that. Only you do not know that because you have no friends who are racists. And you never talked to racists. And you refuse to talk to racists. And you delibretly avoid racists.
However funny TV man got all the right answers right? Only listen to what funny TV man says!
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>>153869955
Surprisingly yes
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>>153861955
Who is going to buy a pure golden apple from him you dipshit? someone is going to ask questions and if the government finds put it's a product of what is effectively super-alchemy, they'll confiscate it
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>>153873698
Doesn't he in that moment spends an entire section desperately trying to save that old lady
>However magically now
Because he never actually killed anybody himself up to that point, are you retarded or what
>This never comes up again. Like literally never, he it 100% fine and never talks about it.
Telling me that you watched the show with your damn eyes closed would have been easier
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>>153863961
>>153864783
>>153865015
>SEE/READ
No, I don't think I will.
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>>153875609
It is unreal. It is like i am talking to a retarded NEET who knows nothing about life!
>Who is going to buy a pure golden apple from him you dipshit?
This is a statement someone actually wrote!
And thinks he is smart.
>Who
Any place that offers cash for gold.
Jewelry stores buy old gold jewelry
If the golden fruit looks to suspicious melt it down and cast into come crap.
>Oh yea this is the art sculptures my grandfather made from gold, real artist ,inherited them

>someone is going to ask questions
FUCKEN LOL! It is unreal how clueless you are. No you can literally sell 30g of pure gold no questions asked if you rotate the places where you sell to.

>government
What about it?

>they'll confiscate it
The gold or EVE?

>super-alchemy
In a world of LITERAL MAGIC (old dragon man; monster girl) other magic (dark wing midnight verse) and superman DBZ alien powers you think this be any impressive?

>government
>someone is going to ask questions
Free tip zoomer retard get into flipping storage units.
>Oh boy I did guy this guys storage unit crap for $120 it is a blind box!
>Whats this a case full of pure gold?
>Lucky me!
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>>153875619
>trying to save that old lady
And no trauma from this moment.
However
>Noo i killed comically evil crazy man!
>WA WA WA
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>>153861524
>it's drawn like a sex fantasy
tell me you have issues without telling me you have issues
he is clenching his fist trying to fight back, he looks scared, screams in pain
and you think this looks like a "sex fantasy"?
If you want to jerk off to fictional female on male rape, that's fine, but recognize reality you fucking freak
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>>153866223
>Scum is trying to remove itself from the genepool and you want to stop it?
Humanity can't be broken down this way. A stupid ir evil parent can often, inexplicably raise a smart, useful child. You're not doomed to be whatever your parents are.



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