I heard that Lilith's va is really good.

>>153876696
God she's hot

>>153877238
nowhere near as hot as canon adam, sad.

>>153876908
Maybe we should have gotten a teaser at the end of S2. Just her leaving a short voice message to Charlie.

Does anyone know where to find the show with Viv's bluray commentary tracks?

>>153878032
Samefagging but I actually bothered to look it up and found it on internet archive like straight away, whoops
https://archive.org/details/episode-1_202512

>>153878032
only the first season has released a commentary track so far, but season one's full commentary is pretty easy to find on youtube. i found it by accident.

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Was it worth it?

>>153878333
Probably not.

>>153878245
If you want even more info you have to dig through Viv's drawing streams. I know she mentions some stuff there.

>>153878333
i find it so interesting that eve basically vanishes entirely from the narrative both in the storybook retelling and on a meta level. it feels extremely deliberate, considering that eve also basically just kinda disappear in the bible too last i checked.

like charlie not questioning what happened to eve kind of suggests that either lucifer and lilith didn't want charlie to ever think about what happened to her and minimised her on purpose, or that if charlie has asked, she's been told eve doesn't matter and not to dwell on her. guilty conscience perhaps.

>>153879220
Honestly the weirdest part is that Adam and Able don't even mention her once. At most we get the vague " I love ribs".

>>153879782
it's fucking impossible to find good fics of this scenario.

>>153880003
Funny enough the are some old ones but those tend to be more wholesome. Just two tired old fucks reconnecting after they realised just how hard they messed up their life.

>>153878245
Hopefully they'll do a season 2 commentary for the blu ray, right?
>just spent an hour figuring out how to append the directors commentary to each episode with ffmpeg
This better be the best damn commentary of all time, istg

>>153880714
the one on youtube has the commentary laid over the episodes shrunken down to dodge copyright. might be easier.

I want to fuck Lilith.

>>153876696
Giving me Nitrotitan/Kaminitro vibes.
Why couldn't they have gotten a show instead?

>>153881064
shut up lucifer and adam.

>>153881569
>you will never curl up on adam's comfy belly on the beach under the sunset
why fucking live atp

>>153881569
Adam is so cute.

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Best Mom Award

Rumor has it we will get Heaven Pride merch next week. Predictions?
>best case
Lute is a bi-stacey
>worst case
>Lute is asexual for some stupid fucking reason

>>153877831
Fag

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This is fanmade but I would be happy with this.

>>153882290
>Lute is asexual
Bruh what?

>>153882402
I hate flaggots. Nobody cares what you find attractive. Signalling what makes you horny is obnoxius to say the least.

>>153878333
if she turned out to be a one of the later villains, It would be a good twist her being complete opposite to Adam. Not necessarily personality wise, but narratively. It's still not fully told us what happened to her and Adam, after Eve bitten the fruit, doesn't make sense how he's in heaven while she's root of evil literally. I hope they'll make at least just a little grey area that lucifer and Lilith were at fault causing Eve and Adam fall, loose their paradise, become mortal, having to survive etc. Eve to corrupt. She'd be biggest victim of both Charlie's parents in that situation, therefore trying to redeem or talk to her would be hard, cause Charlie would feel guilt because of the past. Compared to Adam who even in the book shown to be asshole

>>153882402
pan and bisexual male/female couples always cause so much bitching and reveal so much hypocrisy and i love it.

>>153876696
>BIG Eve Edition

>>153882823
Frankly I want Eve and Adam to actually have a loving relationship. I also don't trust the book since it's probably written by Lucifer or Lilith and neither of those two seem to take accountability for their mistakes.

>>153882918
Idk. Feels like they probably changed that plot point. Especially after the leak.

>>153882952
Why? There's no evidence against it and season 2 provided more evidence for it.

>>153882961
The whole wife swap thing is kinda dumb and a lot of characters need to be lobotomized for it to work without anyone immediately figuring out their true identity.

>>153879782
why did Lilith came back to Adam to help her and hide in paradise if her? book and show told us he was sexist manchild, who forced her to obey that's why she left him in eden. Is there any chance he'd suddenly have flashback like Vox, where his better side would be shown?

>>153882925
same. i think it's unfathomably bleak for hazbin hotel to say 'all of mankind came from a abusive rapist and his victim who he terrorised and forcibly impregnated for decades. god was totally okay with this by the way because he rewarded adam with a place in heaven, and sera and all the other angels were chill with it too and even now see nothing wrong with it. oh and lucifer and lilith didn't care enough to stop it or even try to check in on her.'

Any comfort art of Adam x Eve?

>>153883058
Adam actually being portrayed positively by the show. What insane fantasy is this? All jokes aside maybe he actually matured a bit from his time on earth with Eve. The book is written by the Morningstars so it not mentioning any good aspects of Adam is to be expected. I always imaged him as being actually nice towards the few people he likes. He never actually talks badly about Lilith or Eve in the show so there is proof he hold a certain amount of respect for them.

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>>153883206

>>153883239
yeah kinda think the same. It's something similar with Lute, she called her a bitch but she doesn't seem to mind so that's fine. There's already been bittersweet moment of his death when he smiled to her, so I guess there's still hope
>>153883257
>Awww it's so cute.
I wish we could see Cain in the show too

>>153883172
It was never shown us that Eve hated Adam, only Lilith not obeying him and Lucifer making fun of him, which feels more like half assed joke like 'i fucked your mom'.

So many Adam fans are such downers. Viv loves Adam, she's said it a bunch, and she intervened to get him his smile at Lute to show he's got more to him. And Abel thinks of him fondly not to mention Lute. Where's this idea that the showrunners hate Adam and want him to be one dimensional come from? It's totally made up

The worst headcanon and ship I've saw is Eve x Lucifer, just because of that one line joke. I maybe get where they coming from, but for me, Even falling in love with same guy who betrayed, heck, cursed her life to suffering, taking away her paradise doesn't sit well

>>153883457
one of the other people in the director's commentary, cannot remember which, does say she actually hates adam and couldn't wait for him to die.

>>153883826
Someone way less important than Viv

>>153879761
Abel probably has extremely bad memories of her.

>>153883054
It would work by Eve being absent for thousands of years so Lucifer never thought he would ever encounter her again.

>>153883675
Eve x Lucifer and Adam x Lucifer are some of the most questionable ships in existence. The sheer hatred these two would have for Lucifer makes both these scenarios baffling.

>>153883054
oh so the average hazbin plot point then

>>153884613
Yeah but I kinda hope that they reworked it after the leak and some self reflection. They are some people who straight up theorised that Eve swapped with Lilith without even seeing the leak. It would not be a great reveal.

>>153883892
Why? He seems neutral towards his dad. Unless Eve was the one whopping his ass I don't see why he would have bad memories of her.

>>153883054
the wife swap theory fails for me because the only way it can work is if eve not only predicted that redemption was possible, but that the path to it would get adam killed. which cannot be the case, because adam would've lived if not for niffty and that couldn't be predicted.

adam's death has to be part of the plan, because otherwise his existence in general doesn't affect the plan at all. how could a plan involving a deal with adam not be affected by his death in some way? how can his death or life not matter to the plan?

on top of that, it also means that the years of exterminations, and also the attempted early one, were also predicted and part of her plan OR that they also don't matter to her plan at all.

it's a level of galaxy chess that renders eve absurdly overwhelmingly powerful and a solid chunk of the story entirely pointless.

>>153884581
adamsapple is fun in a hatefucking way and it's about the only gay adam pairing with any real content, so where else am i going to get to see adam getting railed? majority of guitarspear fans are too scared to peg him.

>>153884875
I've seen a ton of guitarspear pegging

>>153884846
wait where are you getting all this from

>>153885015
there's hardly any fics in the guitarspear category with pegging tags so i assume that's more in fanart. good to know some guitarspear fans have taste though.

>>153885024
the whole idea of the wife swap plan is that eve's taken lilith's place to fuck with charlie as vengeance for lucifer, and also get revenge on heaven for being blamed for original sin or whatever.

unless adam's death, sir pentious' redemption and the accelerated exterminations have zero impact on the plan, they have to be part of it. given adam has made a deal with 'lilith' that cannot be true UNLESS his death was part of the plan.

but, if they're part of it, how the fuck did she predict any of it would happen? the only way THAT works is if adam is in on it and agreed to die to make it happen.

>>153885324
forgot something, also if adam's death, sir pentious' redemption and the exterminations as a whole don't matter to her plan, that's what makes huge chunks of the story pointless.

>>153884875
Adamsapple is a byproduct of Adam not interacting with another man in a meaningful way. Having another angel dude which he is actually friendly with would bury this ship into the ground.

>>153885324
Yeah there is a decent amount of pegging rule 34 when it comes to Adam. Just keep in mind that it's sometimes Lilith instead of Lute.

Lilith should suck my dick.

>>153885668
She's not coming back Lucifer

>>153886188
Why is Lucifer so obsessed with ducks?

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>OP is a sample posting retarded faggot

>>153886260
???

>>153886248
there's no ducks in the flashback scene in 'more than anything', but he does form a duck-like image with his magic that baby charlie loves. so he probably fixated on that as the last time (or if they really wanna home in hard on his absentee fathering and lilith doing all the work, the FIRST time) something he made brought joy to her.

>>153886301
What's confusing about the post? OP posted a sample instead of the real image.

Lute is cute.

>>153884716
Depending on whatever is canon. Abel might’ve looked a little more like Lucifer and Eve from the leaks would have absolutely wanted him dead just for that.
Abel’s moment in the carebear’s song is all about what his dad would’ve done and it apparently was telling a bitch to fall back.

>>153884846
Eve is linked to Roo and watches Charlie from the eyes of Roo. And those eyes originated from sinners like Niffty. She would be that broken.

>>153885353
No it wouldn’t. Cause Lucifer is mega toxic for Adam and that’s why they are shipped together

>>153876696
I would write Lilith as peak toxic ex that uses another relationship for revenge
>I never loved Adam anyway
>See? I love this simping cuckold instead, for I am a girlboss!
>Hey! Don't you see how HAPPY I AM, Adam?!

>>153882402
>Heaven is the white cishetero patriachy
>heaven is also le wholesome and accepting
Why are leftoids like this?

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>>153888371
>this creature has killed countless demons

>>153888814
We do see she has taken off her wedding band while in heaven so her status with Lucifer is questionable. I always found it weird how she supposedly left an arrogant manchild just to be with another arrogant manchild.

>>153888508
Abel ain't Lucifer's kid MatPat.

>>153888547
Yet a huge amount of the fan content is OOC vanilla yaoi slop with no hint of toxicity. Those fans would jump ship. From what I've seen the fans who are actually interested in how fucked up it would be are a minority.

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>>153876696
What are some existing songs that would fit Chaggie well with few tweaks?

>>153890978
Adam takes care of his shit. Lucifer doesn’t.

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>>153892328
I need to be in the middle of that Chaggie sandwich.

>>153890978
Knowing Viv, she'll have Lucifer and Lilith divorce amicably so Lucifer can get with Alastor. She like a lot of fanart of them on her bsky.

>>153892343
Could be possible.

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>>153882290
>Lute is asexual for some stupid fucking reason
As funny as it would be to btfo guitarspear shippers, I don't think it's gonna happen.

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>>153884846
Wife swap I can see a logical through-line for, if only because the narrative makes a big mystery out of Lilith and how we've never seen her on screen properly compared to the pictures of her we see in Lucifer's place and around the hotel, as well as how her disappearance coincides with Alastor going to ground and the exterminations really ramping up.

Lilith being disguised as Rosie on the other hand, is much harder to swallow (excuse the pun). I have a much easier time believing that Rosie is actually Eve or Roo in disguise than Lilith. Hell, I'd go so far to say as Rosie being either Eve or Roo makes a lot more sense since it could be tied into the Lilith and extermination plots, namely
>Lilith found out who Rosie truly is.
>passes it on to Adam in exchange for asylum in Heaven
>exterminations get cranked into overdrive to deal with the new threat.

>>153893502
Why is Sera aura farming here?

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>>153893523
>Responding in zoomer speak
Condemnation to super-hell for you

>>153884875
Firstly, pegging is absolute shit, get a better fetish. Secondly, Guitarspear has a fuck ton of pegging content, both in art and fanfics. Thirdly, Adam's Apple is good in a hate-fuck way when it's Adam dominating Lucifer and getting his justified revenge. And finally, it's also an okay ship if they get over their shit and talk about it (and Lucifer apologizes).

>>153893604
>t. that one guitarspear shipper on twitter who gets really angry if you imply that Lute in any way doms Adam

>>153893637
>Twitter
That's my first point. Second point is that femdom is based as fuck, and I'm sure they switch. Doesn't change the fact that pegging is cringe.

>>153893580
Im sorry. I will accept my punishment.

>>153893502
Can someone explain the whole Eve is Rosie thing since it seems like a stretch to me. Plus her not having any second thoughts regarding Adam's death is weird unless she's planning on pulling a Warwick with his body.

>>153893754
If someone else has an "Eve is Rosie" theory, I haven't heard it. What I posed there is something I literally came up with on the fly while writing it to demonstrate how (at least as far as we know) absurd it is that Lilith is slumming it as a fucking cannibal, which is something even Charlie cant stomach. My point is that I can more easily see Rosie being Eve or Roo than I can see her being Lilith.

>>153893785
I was asking since I heard about said theory a couple of times ( just as a mention and not actually explained). Then again most theories are literally Lute=Eve=Rosie=Lilith=Roo and Adam is somehow actually Eve and got himself pregnant. It's kinda of a mess.

>>153893823
>Then again most theories are literally Lute=Eve=Rosie=Lilith=Roo and Adam is somehow actually Eve and got himself pregnant. It's kinda of a mess.
Funnily enough I don't actually buy into any theory that Lute is somehow a major character in disguise, if only because if she is, she's incredibly good at hiding it. As of right now, while I can concede she has connections to something much bigger, I don't think that she herself is more than a created being that Heaven built in order to prosecute the exterminations.

>>153893754
there's a lot of people pointing to things like lilith's obscured face/eyes/her necklace being different but ultimately the true source is a leak from an employee who hasn't worked on the show in a really long while, and it's impossible to say what's still lore-accurate or not since apparently other things they've claimed aren't true in the actual show. i don't remember what though.

>>153894274
My schizo theory is that the leak was fabricated intentionally to misslead and the small elements that support it are there as red herrings. But at the same time considering Viv track record and her overall planning skills I doubt she could do that.

>>153896212
i love this fat bird.

>>153893785
>absurd it is that Lilith is slumming it as a fucking cannibal, which is something even Charlie cant stomach.
Lilith is simply built different.

>>153882290
Ew

>>153893785
Eve and Lilith both eat humans in this show.

>>153878333
>>153882823
i can take Eve as a villain, but she should not be evil, antagonist maybe but not evil.
Eve should be someone who absolute angry at Lucifer but for the right reasons.
Lucifer fuck up her life, used her on schemes against heavens and them abandoned her like a used toy when she was not fun anymore.
I want Eve to be basic ''EVIL MORTY'' she has this extreme calm almost nihilism way of act but with a mission to make sure Lucifer pay

>>153896988
Lilith did eat children in some myths. Eve does not have any mentions of cannibalism.

>>153896881
>Lilith is simply built different.
Yeah she's built for COCK

>>153897191
i think eve's treatment will ultimately depend on if lucifer's the type of creator's pet who's a sweet badass baby who's never done anything wrong ever and anyone who doesn't like them is mean and horrible and lying, or the type of creator's pet that's pathetic and built to be tormented by their own mistakes and bad choices and is haunted by the well earned hatred of others. i have OCs that are both so i get the mentality, but i can't get a read on vivzie since she has shades of both.

>>153894274
>since apparently other things they've claimed aren't true in the actual show
the leak was literally just the eve/lilith/rosie/roo stuff, there's been nothing to contradict

>>153897623
First Man Cock.

>>153897715
It had helluva boss content.

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I love her so much.

>>153898109
How hard did she and Adam fuck on that beach?

>>153898028
no it didn't

>>153898154
The sex had impact frames. That's how hard.

>>153898154
thinking about it adam and lilith were literally made for each other, so they are perfectly physically compatible. did lucifer have to shapeshift his dick to match adam's dick or did she just make do with not quite as perfect for thousands of years? how would finally scratching that specific itch feel after all that time?

>Adam and Lilith just needed to let each other be the dominant every now and then and they could experience literally the best sex ever
Making up for lost time.

>>153899346
>>153899408
I wonder if they ever had kids how would they look? Asmodeus is their son in some versions but how would a regular human would look?

>>153893846
For a being who is created solely for the Exterminations, there's a lot of weird secrecy being built around her. Her VA has hinted at it, Viv has hinted at it, fucking Amir of all people have expressed curiosity/interest in her backstory, which I find really fucking weird since... He himself said he doesn't concern himself with other characters that don't involve Alastor in the script. In the Hazbin playbill, her file is canonically listed as 'classified'. She's been hiding shit. I doubt there would be all this secrecy when they're hyping her up for some sort of reveal, I guess we could call it, only for it to turn out that.... what? She's the oldest of the soldiers? The first one that was made? Pretty boring. There wouldn't be any need to hide that.

>>153898109
Overhyped.

>>153897715
You know that storyline is from 2021 or so. We have not gotten any new updates regarding that lore since then. It's probably not even relevant anymore.

>>153893654
Isn't that bitch like a pedophile or something?

>>153900484
I'll be honest, I have no fucking clue who they were referring to in the first place.

>>153900518
I think I know who they're talking about. It's this one user who is obsessed with dom stuff, gets pissy about like.... Women being doms? It's fucking weird.

>>153900399
Kys

>>153900949
Until we see her doing something cool on screen, she's overhyped as fuck.

>>153901001
Kys

>>153901020
o v e r h y p e d

>>153900384
At one point I thought Lute and the exorcists might be children of Adam and Lilith and that's what the Lilith deal was because I thought it was so weird that Lute looks so much like Adam facially, but season 2 confirming she had romantic feelings for Adam obviously contradicted that. I guess if she's Eve made from his rib/an Eve-like figure then that also makes sense. She looks a lot like him.

>>153901193
Viv directly confirmed that the Exorcists are not his descendants. They look like Adam, and even Abel (the soldier Lute manhandled had a tooth gap like Abel did).