waaaah daddy didn't love me and mommy laughed at me so i pushed herThat's the big emotional backstory that Jax was willing to kill everyone including himself over?How the hell did Goose or Glitch think this was genuinely theater-worthy?If they had done something like having Jax hate NPCs or bully them relentlessly to blow off steam just to find out they are humans and then be extremely atoneful THAT would've been kino, especially if he got a big emotional sendoff with Pomni before he sacrificed himself to save the others, that would be find.Also how the hell is Caine still alive? WHY did they bring back Caine? Isn't the blue one supposed to be the good one? Why did removing the blue one make Caine a good guy suddenly?Goose is a FUCKING hack and I hope the indie animation scene crumbles under it's own inability to write a good GODDAMN story.Inb4>there's already a thread on the boardFuck you nigga, I'm more important. Also I already solved the captcha before i remembered that fact.
>>153880902goose probably didn't think it was theater worthy, glitch saw what markiplier had done with iron lung and saw dollar signs. But yeah, the ending is bad, i think everyone's expressed this.
>>153880902You forgot the part where it is revealed Jax is trans/gay
>>153880902Were people this upset over the finale for Murder Drones? If not, what was the difference?
>>153880902Well, yes. The show is made a tranny freak.Ofc they're going to be having mommy / daddy issues then use those as a major point of the story at some point in time.
>>153881036Was it in theaters? Cause Glitch is selling this as the big break for indie animation and as a digitalcircus fan Ii almost got tickets seeing how the poster makes it look like a true surreal psychological horror.
>>153881240>Was it in theaters?Nope - Glitch was still new to large projects at that time.
>>153881036No not really. Apart from some extremely mentally ill autists on Reddit, and couple (likely some of the same) mentally ill autists here on /co/ having meltdowns about the show ending "too soon" and cursing Glitch and Liam Vickers.There's a particular schizo that's been posting ever since the finale conspiracies about Liam Vickers and Glitch's relationship and MD being multiple seasons. I thought the ending was fine. The finale itself was absolutely kino obviously. But the main complaint with it in general is that it's rather sudden. The show does wrap up mostly everything, but there's not enough time to deeply explore some more things that would have been nice to flesh out. Like the other human exoplanets, which we got some background information about, or a more detailed epilogue aside from the brief (and rather teasing) after credits scene.
>>153881036It was an entertaining episode. Cyn was cute in it and murderdrones didn't try to sell itself as anything other than amusing entertainment.
>>153881036Murder Drones just needed a bit more time in order to have a perfect ending. Overall, it wasn't a terrible ending or anything. I think the main thing people were upset over was how short, and as a result how fast paced, the show is so they ended up wanting more. Which led to quite a bit of complaining, but not the same kind of complaining about TADC's ending.
>>153881359If anything, it gave main characters and others something productive to do. My biggest gripe with TADC's finale is that - apart from Jax abstracting - anything of note is being propelled by inertia from 8th episode when characters banded together to stop Caine, with Kinger accidentally deleting him. They had no role in Caine stabilizing himself and removing Bubble, to say nothing of him actually returning to them.
>>153880902>>153880949That's it really. Glitch is just getting too greedy now.They just wanted to cash in regardless of what happened, hence them making merch of Jax's "trauma". Can't wait for it to backfire with twitter weirdos flaming them for trying to monetize someone's transness or something.
>>153882225Best of all - whatever damage control they might try to roll out, most likely won't come into effect until youtube release some three weeks from now. We're in for the worst fandom burnout ever.
>>153881359Meds, threadcop.
Desu, Jax is a good example of how being “complex” does not equal well-written.
>>153882872>TADC bitchfest turns into a regular MD thread Oh no no no...
>>153883391Just ignore the schizophrenic that feels called out. There's literally no need to derail the thread because he wants attention.
>spacekingschizo calling other people schizolmao
>>1538809023 years for fucking nothing.
TADC wouldve been a better show if it stayed as a "wacky adventure every episode" type of show with a slight buildup towards the mystery. why do cartoons feel the need to be so emotional? and the even the good kind of emotional. its the pity party kind of emotional where all the characters get together and feel sad awww. why is that such a popular trend nowadays?
>>153884661and NOT even the good kind of emotional*
>>153884661Because the showrunners insert themselves too much into the story/a specific character instead of just letting the show exist for the sake of itself
>>153884661Because Gooseworx is a tranny and has like... two(?) self inserts in this show. They literally can't help it. I'm surprised people weren't just expecting TADC to end up being shit because of this.
>>153884661t. Jax's third persona
>>153880902>waaaah daddy didn't love me and mommy laughed at me so i pushed her>That's the big emotional backstory that Jax was willing to kill everyone including himself over?No, that's about him wishing to be a girl>If they had done something like having Jax hate NPCs or bully them relentlessly to blow off steam just to find out they are humans and then be extremely atoneful THAT would've been kino, especially if he got a big emotional sendoff with Pomni before he sacrificed himself to save the others, that would be find.The last option is kind of cliché. I like the current ending better. The first one would really come out of nowhere, things weren't going anywhere close to there (they COULD've done it, but I wouldn't picture it happening mostly due to the previous 2 episodes)>Also how the hell is Caine still alive? WHY did they bring back Caine? Isn't the blue one supposed to be the good one? Why did removing the blue one make Caine a good guy suddenly?That's not how it went, you got the causality backwards. Try putting some thought on it next time (just like you should've before making this thread with an active one)
>>153888182>No, that's about him wishing to be a girl0 spoilers confirm this>The last option is kind of cliché. still marginally better than the current ending, wasting so much time on Jax just to turn him into a dog and never actually try to figure out how to undo abstraction in any way is catistrophically stupid. >I like the current ending better. The first one would really come out of nowhere, things weren't going anywhere close to there (they COULD've done it, but I wouldn't picture it happening mostly due to the previous 2 episodes)this is why making trauma therapy lore cartoons is a genuinely horrible idea, you CAN'T just handwave away common sense or quality storytelling in your writing just to do a woe-is-me plotline where everyone hugs and cries for an hour and then plot happens out of nowhere. it's fucking stupid.>That's not how it went, you got the causality backwards. Try putting some thought on it next time (just like you should've before making this thread with an active one)and that's actually even more ridiculous because the story of the guy you actually deleted coming back is delegated to a flashback. this thing is an hour long and most of the time in the episode was spent trying (and failing) to make audiences feel sorry for a guy whose backstory essentially boils down to "i'm trans or whatever, my mom thought it was funny >:(" as opposed to having the entire episode be a satisfying adventure to fix caine and MAYBE have jax explain himself and do something to actually earn the audience sympathy at the end. holy shit
>>153889020>0 spoilers confirm thisSpoilers? I just watched the leak. He heavily implies it and then the frog whatever her name was just seals it>still marginally better than the current ending, Not for me>never actually try to figure out how to undo abstraction in any way is catistrophically stupid. Some things can't be undone, even manmade ones. I don't really have an issue with this one way or the other>then plot happens out of nowhere. it's fucking stupid.Things happen like that in real life too, it's just too hard for the medium (or maybe the authors) to adapt it>as opposed to having the entire episode be a satisfying adventure to fix caine and MAYBE have jax explain himself and do something to actually earn the audience sympathy at the end.Yeah. Maybe. Maybe they didn't have you in mind making this one. This adventure satisfied me, and although I wouldn't call it "good" either, I think calling it "bad" because it didn't appeal to whatever fantasy of storytelling you have or how much you tolerate backstory dumps it's kind of weak.
>>153889498>Spoilers? I just watched the leak. He heavily implies it and then the frog whatever her name was just seals itheavily implies =/= truth and putting a bow on his head does =/= tranny, it moreso implies that he was a fag especially if you consider his "straight couple" joke in episode 7>Some things can't be undone, even manmade ones. I don't really have an issue with this one way or the otherso caine can just undelete himself... somehow... but the brain scans are just gone for good>Things happen like that in real life too, it's just too hard for the medium (or maybe the authors) to adapt itno it doesn't? especially in TADC where you have a self-contained environment with six goddamn characters. there is no outside influence or anybody shutting off the server so there is legitimately no reason for "plot to happen" in this series whatsoever. i understand leaving plot threads open but some stuff needs to be explained>I think calling it "bad" because it didn't appeal to whatever fantasy of storytelling you have or how much you tolerate backstory dumps it's kind of weak.what's "bad" is the fact that people are going to watch this abysmal finale and still dickride glitch because "gotta save indie animation no matter what" and we're never going to actually evolve past trauma cartoons that wave "lore" in your face without actually developing a solid coherent story first. i actually tried to enjoy this show for what it is but after having seen episode 9 irks me because they've put jax at the forefront of the most important episode in the series but they never ended up giving us a valid reason to care about him whatsoever.
>>153884661You reap what you sow
>>153889020>trauma therapy loreWhich is kinda ironic, given how quite a few of TADC fans have expressed a desire to go on a therapy as a result of watching leaked finale and becoming traumatized.
>>153888182>that's about him wishing to be a girlThis is worse than what actually happened. For your sake, stop pushing this as fact>The last option is kind of clichéThat's basically the ending to I have no mouth. The actually good story TADC took heavy inspiration from>The casualty is wrong Plotting Caine back to life immediately is shit writing. No explaining why they couldn't do it to the abstracted characters is also shit writing
>>153884661because the people writing it are sad sacks of shit that arw addicted to being le sad
>>153891073>Plotting Caine back to lifeBit about Caine might be just as bad - if not worse - than the bit about Jax's abstraction. >Reveal back in 8th episode how Caine was just a test run with simplified capabilities and got put into isolation right before a better programmer had introduced Bubble >Breaches confinement and devours Bubble, creating the Circus in the process >Finale arrives and it turns out that Caine's first victim was also the root of all evil in the Circus >Caine is suddenly perfectly self-aware of his flaws despite all his previous reactions to being defied or criticised and takes all the right steps to ensure that the Circus becomes a paradise to brainscans with no input from the cast It's as if Goose was so preoccupied with Jax's misery porn/pity party that she forgot to write an ending and just slapped it on what's been already written.
>>153880902>Also how the hell is Caine still alive? WHY did they bring back Caine? Isn't the blue one supposed to be the good one? Why did removing the blue one make Caine a good guy suddenly?/g/ here.Kinger did not delete shit.He tried to attain admin rights and change permissions by using very basic linux commands and then stuff like Chroot and was merely checking rwx permissions for the most part.Then tried to delete files like an amateur using rw, then tried to stop Caine using systemctrl stop.I would to think Kinger was smart enough to do sudo -i before proceeding.Anyways, his meddling trigger a defense protocol called WACKY and tried to guess the password.It was this WACKY protocol that crashed Caine.This is why he says that he "accidentally" killed Caine, but what actually happened is that Caine as a service rebooted.That said, his arc deserved more time and exploration but was rushed completely.Ep8 was better than the movie IMO.I agree this did not feel threatical but this is an indie studio and well to be fair anime movies very rarely have anything of substance.
>>153884661>why do cartoons feel the need to be so emotional?Steven Universe and its consequences have been devastating for the animation scene.
>>153884661I swear to Jesus that Gameoverse is Digital Circus done right simply because the adventures and the stakes in them actually matter and aren’t forgotten about.The Caine adventures alone could’ve introduced some characters that could’ve been compelling villains. Fucking evil Jax could easily take that role by trying to replace the original Jax.
>>153892237>I agree this did not feel threaticalHere’s the problem. Episode 8 does feel theatrical and then episode 9 is a bait and switch.
>>153892325Yeah, but at least in SU's case its author kinda understood that people become attached to her characters and become distressed over their demise. That's why the only irreversible loss that has ever occured was Pink Diamond's death - and even that didn't sting as her death produced series' protagonist and she was gradually revealed to be a monster who only began doing 'good' deeds out of boredom. Even gem corruption and fragmentation - which are as close to abstraction as possible - were shown to be reversible despite original lore arguing that to be impossible. Rebecca Sugar is a hack writer, but Goose had managed to become an even worse one.
>>153892455>and then episode 9 is a bait and switchAren't you happy that your expecations have been... SUBVERTED?
>>153888182>Jax should have died in a big heroic self sacrifice that retroactively makes him a dindu nuffinNo fuck Jax and fuck his fans
>>153880902 Its a shitty ending done on purpose by goose either because of burnout or revenge against the fanbase, probably both. Jax should had either helped the others escape in any way, for bubble to suddenly become the new ringmaster and villain, the abstracted either coming back or left lose with the others trying to fix the circus while escaping them, one of the other members to abstract other than jax who we know was getting better since he didnt abstract in ep7 and either something tragic happening to the others that causes them to abstract or related. Have pretty good ideas who would that be but you could even still have jax abstract but do it better other than a fucking offscreen death which got no reactions from the others. Remember the thing that was "we wont let you alone to roam and abstract somewhere" bit? What happened to that goose? Or was jax too much of a chud that deserved to die? Getting mixed signals here. So many ways to get the right message out for this series and we got the half assed worst one.
>>153881958if they saved Jax, something would have been achieved
>>153892472noi expected it to be good
>>153893055Right after ep 8 had been released, I kinda expected that Jax would abstract in the finale, but I've also expected Caine's 'death' to be permanent. In such a setup they, upon realising that they are doomed to spend the rest of forever in the digital space, would sooner or later be forced to seek some replacement for Caine - like through restructuring newly abstracted Jax into a new ringmaster. Sounds cliche, but still feels like a better conclusion to TADC than what we got.
>>153884244>fucking nothing What would you have preferred, then?
>>153884751The grim reality.
It was very underwhelming. Full of characters crying, being therapists to each other, a bunch of nothing until the very end where it's revealed they're just clones or whatever. Imagine spending over $40 to see this shit in theaters. Glitch needs to stay in their lane or dire consequences will be met, the movie getting leaked was a helpful warning
>>153880902I mean thats the same backstory Donald Trump has and look what it did to him
>>153892421>I swear to Jesus that Gameoverse is Digital Circus done right simply because the adventures and the stakes in them actually matter and aren’t forgotten about.You didn't see the amount of PTSD panic attacks Kit and a couple of other characters had in the episode? Don't be so sure.
>>153881036Murder Drone’s finale was disappointing, but ultimately still a satisfactory ending to the series.ADC’s finale is a fucking train wreck, made infinitely worse by the leak.
>>153880902>tranny makes their project all about their sexuality and fetishesgod damn it, not again.
>>153896934Not to forget Gobbles' pep talk about how Kit should never blame herself for screwing up, despite the fact that she was the one to dismiss any hunch about Flappers being the hero of his game world, as well as the one who had triggered world's self-scan by running her mouth. She's largely useless, but everyone behaves as if the opposite was the case.
