Why did it fail?
>>153881312Because the original was never good to begin with
>>153881312not enough gay college experimentation.
>>153881312why wouldn't it fail?
>>153881312Nothing going for it.>not cartoony enough for the kids who watch TTG despite the literal cartooning aspect>culture war backlash with crossdressing and the pink bird talking about feminism or whatever wasn't enough word of mouth and baiting like Velma (still taking into consideration S2 was pre-greenlit, the vitriol towards that show made it inescapable)>specifically annoyed old fans (who are the broad subject for these forced nostalgic revivals) with the pointless change making Buster and Babs related for no reason>no one else (casuals) cares about the original enough to care about a revivalIt was entirely unnecessary and the 3 audiences that wouldn't mind it being pointless (kids, performative rage baiters, old fans with nostalgia) were all neglected and lacked reason for engagement. The most controversy wasn't the political shit from the leaks it was the buster babs "no relation" to "relation" which was mostly just baffled people joking about how fucked up it was, still being based off the original.
>>153881312They didn't hire TMS to animate it again
>>153881693
A thread died for this
>Let's make a revival of a show that was famously popular with adults and college crowd due to its writing>And actually put them in college this time>But we are writing down the series to slightly above preschool level and also make sure we turn away anyone who would have watched by making them twins lolIt failed because when the remaining viewership for animated series was going towards writing for older audiences just like the original did, they went in the entire different direction trying to cater it to 7-8 year olds who do not watch animation anymore. And because they basically told all prior fans and anyone above 10 not to watch no one turned in as a backup audience when the obvious failure to reach their intended age range was going to happenThey wasted such a good potential for a series on a desired core audience that no longer exists
>>153881312>Adapt an old property>Change everything everyone liked about it in the first placeThe fuck did they think would happen? The Animaniacs Reboot had plenty of problems but still felt at least vaguely like Animianiacs. This felt like a different show entirely.
>>153881312>retcons literally the first joke in the entire series>"BUSTER BUNNY AND BABS BUNNY, NO RELATION"And for what? No really, why retcon that?
>>153881766A Goonoverse thread? Thank riddance.
>>153881890I've heard rumors that this was originally not related to TT, the IP was supposedly added at the last minute.
>>153881890Whoever made it wanted their own Gravity Falls iirc
>>153881914Well that's dumb. I guarantee whatever they were planning is inferior to a show made to actually BE Tiny Toons.>>153881922Alex Hirsch and his consequences continue to damage this medium.
I still can’t believe both Babs’ original and new voice actors were harassed by some deranged fan.Talk about an eerie coincidence.
>>153881948The only good thing about this show is that Fifi basically dodged being associated with it since she’s pretty much a background character.
>>153881321It was better than Animaniacs, but that's not really saying much.
>>153881987This is the main reason I didn't even investigate this shit. That and the bad low effort art.
>>153881959Jesus Christ.What the fuck?
>>153882076>CaptainChipmunk stalks Tress MacNeille (Babs’ original VA) and blames it on some innocent guy.>some deranged femanon(?) stalks Ashleigh Crystal Harrison (Babs’ Looniversity VA) over another character she voiced and a ship she supports.
>>153881693TMS tried to get it back, but Erin Gibson forced them to do a Rick and Morty spin off that forced them into so much debt that they have to leach off of Toei just to pay back said debt.https://www.asahi.co.jp/precure/star-detective/topics/202605_conan.html
>>153882204I still question who the fuck asked for a fucking rick and morty anime. they advertised that shit for fucking months and I don't think anyone has ever talked about it since
>>153882239They did an anime style bumper or something and positive response to that likely made suits green light the anime spinoff.
Rand's depiction of Buster having sex with human teachers for a passing grade makes me diamonds.
>>153881312Kids didn't care for it.
>>153882335I must have missed that part of atlas shrugged
The characters are canon 18-19 now which is the only good part of the show
>>153882454No, moralfag, and they still look like kids.
basb bnuuy............sexo..........young babs not OLD babs...............
>>153881890It just occurred to me, was the joke just that theyre not related to each other, or also not related to Bugs (which is assumed to be one of the audiences first questions about them)
>>153882505Each other, because they’re dating
>>153882505The joke is that they have the same surname but are not related.
>>153882473Unless you are a preteen when graduating high school (which they say they did multiple times) then yes >and they still look like kidsLiteral made up twitter moralfagging if there is no true justifiable way to be puritan over a character
>>153882523the joke is the descriptive "bunny" is taken as a surname.
>>153882561>Literal made up twitter moralfaggingNigga they objectively still look like kids, this is not an opinion
>>153882454>I need permission to fap to cartoonsfag
John K factually proved that Tiny Toons was never good
>>153882659On his blog? I'd love to see it!
>>153881890I adored the original TT and thought it could be a long running franchise which parodies the cartoons of the current era while always paying homage to the Golden Age. When it finally came back and they did this shit, I knew my hopes were dead. The people in charge obviously didn't give a fuck about the original show and this would probably be the last reboot given to the old franchise. It's over.
>>153882659John K? more like John Gay
>>153882903A 90's cartoon was never going to get a revival that put as much effort in as 90's animators gave them anyways.
>>153882505Not related to Bugs
>>153882239Erin Gibson did, otherwise TMS would've got Tiny Toons back.>>153882296The response towards TMS' shorts was extremely negative because Animaniacs got butchered for it, Tower of God and Shenmue: The Animation. And all Rick and Morty: The Animation was was a shoddy Studio 4°C knock off, at least with Tiny Toons TMS was being themselves and if they got it back it.The positive response were from Deen's shorts, not TMS' which were universally hated.>>153883006That wasn't going to be the case originally.
>>153882204Shut up Famicom
>>153883422You have serious issues
>>153883436No, you do, no one wanted a PreCure X Conan crossover because you only do shit like that when you run out of ideas.
>>153882659Yes it was.
I would totally fuck plucky up the ass
PC and Progressive pandering. First episode was a Tranny episode.
>>153884873No, that was crossdressing, something Bugs Bunny does all the time.
>>153883422Go suck start a shotgun
>>153884945Was it actually done as a "joke" in TTL or as a political talking point? Post video if you got it.
>>153881321This
>>153884945every thread
>>153885071No, the original is a masterpiece that is in the same leagues as Nadia and Eva, same with Animaniacs.
>>153884974It was treated as a joke.
>>153885206I don't believe you. Buster is dressed like a lesbian in his "crossdressing" getup. I don't think seeing this episode would make this look less like a political talking point.
>>153881312>alienates anyone who actually liked the original>not good enough to draw a new audienceIt was made for no one like many reboots these days.
Jesus it looks so damn flat.
>>153885206why are people so full of fucking shit?
>>153885426yeah thats just like an actual fucking drag show. they're even doing that stupid corpse drop they do.I wonder if they made the characters explicitly 18 purely because this scene would have been even more offputting if they were still kids
>>153885426I am so hard right now...
>>153885459No, it's just they they can't tell jokes.
>>153885621You sure proved him wrong
>>153881312It was made by dumb women for an audience of dumber women
>>153885426This right here is why this show failed. And also why I cheer for AI to replace all artists.
>>153881312I never saw a single soul talking about this reboot.
The original was an attempt at mimicking Golden Age cartoons on TV, even if it didn't always hit the mark. This reboot didn't even try.
These are just tranny smith threads that he posts for himself and Famicom is even added to the mess, fuck this shit.
>>153886342>an attempt at mimicking Golden Age cartoons on TV,Luckily a better attempt was made. The best TT episode got repurposed into picrel.
>>153885426The "joke" wasn't crossdressing to fool and trick a horny male antagonist, it was finding acceptance for drag performance art. Also no sex appeal. Also poor technical execution animation-wise, 3frame loops or less, no slapstick, no reveal, zero tension, no follow through. Also Taz is a single unmoving image.The whole effort was short-cutted outsourced "story artist" ego shit from inception to completion. Bad writing makes bad cartoons.
>>153886437No, that was it's own thing.Tiny Toons was a masterpiece.
>>153886541You don't understand, Haunted House is for refined tastes only.
>>153881312Why didn't they hire another 10 different studios like the original did? They git Spilberg back he could've afforded it for sure.
>>153881321An extremely hard truth for tea fags to accept. Of course, TTaFags are either deranged furries or Famicom types, so good luck with that.
>>153881312Someones crack pipe exploded and it burned down the studio.
>>153886647I'm shocked not many furries came out of R&S' fandom, though I suppose it was because John K himself was anti-furry LMAO.
>>153885426Troon groom train for kids with terrible writing.
>>153881312Well, I was going to consider drawfriending some TTA or Animaniacs or general WB, but this thread is already a cesspool. I'm out.
>>153886778useless comment award
>>153881890>NO RELATIONso... they're not fucking or they're not related? is fifi fucking? dat ass is hot but the smell can peel paint off a car. wutt do i do?
>>153886778Don't let the door jam in your gaping asshole on the way out.
It’s one of those shows that unironically would’ve been improved if they used AI instead.
>>153886778do you let just any youtube influencer to change your mind too? kek.
>>153881312Nobody wanted this in the first place.
>>153883006This, even if TMS were to be allowed to work again on this, the entire staff who worked on it, animaniacs and batman is RETIRED. it would never be the same thing.
>>153881312A fundamental misunderstanding of Tiny Toons, Making Buster and Babs siblings,Making Sweety part of the main cast instead of Fifi or Shirley,Also make Sweety the radfem-like,Top it all off, not even funny to justify anything.
>>153881312Because it was based on a thirty year old cartoon that only a very minute percentage of adults cared about and there was absolutely zero hope of ever recouping the investment needed to get the show produced in its crippled state in the first place.It honestly felt like both CN and WB going through the motions even though by the time the show premiered it was painfully obvious that there would be no merchandise and no advertisers willing to buy spots since kids under 8 barely even buy toys anymore. They watch Youtube or Tiktok shorts because real people that have an effect on the real world where there can be real drama is always going to have more pull.Kids want real. They want to see real people lose their shit and crash out on a livestream or get punched by someone over a prank gone wrong. Cartoons no longer address any of their concerns, certainly not at the speed that they consume all this stuff. Animation as a medium takes time, there's no other way around it, and pound for pound is the most expensive to produce. Video can adapt, TV shows will evolve through online streaming, but animation can't keep up. The conglomerates putting stock in AI will be fucked over when a random person can just make bullshit like Fruit Love Island and rack up millions of followers in a matter of days. And for that, the animation industry is effectively dead. It will only continue to exist through1) Animated shows not just outsourced, but produced entirely overseas, and2) Visual effects for TV/movies, but even this will have AI foisted upon it to cut costs, and there isn't a damn thing Hollywood-based unions can do about it.Whoever's reading this and wanted to work an animation, you missed the boat. Just like Milt Kahl said to those in the 70s who wanted to work on theatrical animated shorts.
>>153886951TMS' crew from that era was still working... Just as freelance as shown here in E&H's Bullet/Bullet's Greg Gacha segments.
The showrunner they chose had no background whatsoever in screenwriting, let alone animation. She was cohost on a podcast. The people at the top didn't care that much about it at all, it was just a box to tick.
>>153887625Prove it
>>153887637They should've called it Midnight Tiny Toon Gospel KEK.
>>153887295Tiny Toons got better ratings then The Simpsons back in the day, it was in the millions as it wasn't a minute percentage of adults that cared for it.While kids do watch YouTube it's all long forum videos that are scripted and informative like Game Sack and LGR.Kids avoid TikTok because China owns it and they hate China for what they're doing to the .Kids do not want real, kids want escapism, and MeTV Toons is proof of that.
>>153887650>Doesn't see the shot by Yoshinobu Michihata.
>Game Sack and LGRI was right when I said TTA was never good to begin with. Attracts this motherfucker like flies on shit.
>>153882435That's the only reason far right groups masturbate to Atlas Shrugged.
>>153885145Chuds are so blatant with their lack of self-awareness
>>153887773Yes it is good, TTA is a masterpiece, we been through this before.
>>153884115what shitty art
>>153887844Nah, it was an attempt by Speilberg at riding the success of Roger Rabbit. Rocko doesn't owe shit to Tiny Toons.
>>153887878No it wasn't, it was it's own thing.>Rocko doesn't owe shit to Tiny Toons.Irrelevant, but yes it does.Nadia does own everything to Tiny Toons.
>>153887844>we been through this beforeWhy do you keep saying that? Is that something your psychologist has told you or what?
>>153886846It means they're not related, despite sharing the same last name (Bunny). It's central to plots that they are dating or interested in each other. And Babs is PISSED when Buster ogles other girls.
>>153887902You keep sucking TMS cock, yet you're bringing fucking Gainax into the mix? That's even LESS relevant than TTA being an influence on Rocko. (It wasn't, everyone with a functioning brain knows R&S truly kicked off the wacky duo comedies of the 90s.)
>>153881312It's a reboot of an ancient show that only autists like Famicon care about. The fuck did you think was going to happen?
>>153887931Because we had this same discussion days ago on this very topic.>>153887973>I don't read AniMage.No Tiny Toons = No Nadia.No Animaniacs = No Eva.Ren and Stimpy leached off of others.Tiny Toons did not.Simple as that.DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE DIS THE YAMATO MASTER RACE!!!!
>>153888026Nomies care about Tiny Toons.
>>153888061Normalfags above the age of 40 maybe.
>>153888087No, all ages.
>>153888061Nah, only babies. (As evident by its 5th gen games.)The Konami NES game was good, but only because a competent dev made it by nearly copying SMB3 physics.
>>153888095This show hasn't been regularly aired or promoted since the 90's, friend. Well, maybe it was on those boomerang channels.
>>153888052>>Because we had this same discussion days ago on this very topic.Who is "we"? The voices in your head?
>>153881312It already gave itself a handicap by changing shit at random for no good reason, and personally it felt like the changes were meant to make the show more like everything else from the time. So why should anyone pay attention to it?>>153881321Ducktales wasn't all that good either but the Angones reboot was pretty successfull smug latinas notwithstanding. The original She-Ra was toyslop and the reboot was such a success that other shows began copying it. Not being able to make a better version of something old and corny is not an excuse.
>>153888052>Ren and Stimpy leached off of others.>Tiny Toons did not.That's a lot of stupid to unpack, especially when R&S is an original IP while TT is riding off Looney Tunes' coattails.
>>153888106No, all ages.>>153888116It was on regular airings in the 2000s and the DVDs kept it alive and well to this very day.
>>153888174Sadly bad reboots are a trend, even with good cartoons. R&S got fucked the hardest, since its reboot never even saw the light of day outside of France.
>>153888175Not the case.
>>153888174She-ra sucked lmao
>>153888228Still a success.
>>153888189>No, all ages.I fucking dare you to look at a longplay of Plucky's Big Adventure and tell me that shit's for all ages. The NES game was a platformer anyone could get into, not a game for literal toddlers.>>153888204Are you kidding me? The whole premise of the show is that they're learning from the Looney Tunes themselves. R&S was some random episodic shit that could have any setting.
>>153888264
>>153887718>Tiny Toons got better ratings then The Simpsons back in the dayAt its peak it had an 8.8 share. The Simpsons peaked at an 18.4 share.
>>153888615Simpsons NEVER got a 18.4 in it's life, 8.4 yes, but never 18.4.In fact 8.8 is low ball for Tiny Toons, it usually got over 20 in it's ratings.
>>153887810every thread
>>153881312It was awful.
>>153888706Did you do your research or did you consult your imaginary friends in la la land? I like Tiny Toons but it was objectively less popular than The Simpsons in the ratings.
>>153881312Simple, no one asked for this.
>>153886951Does that explain the animation for Sonic X, despite them doing animations for his commercials back in the 90s?
>>153889315Hi Spirits/Haunted House was finished before R&S was ever greenlit. Therefore, it's the best TT episode by default.
>>153889266That AI generated, it's not real.
>>153889349No, Sonic X wasn't TMS' main focus at that time as Uninhabited Planet Survive! was the show TMS put all their focus on at that time (also note that Uninhabited Planet Survive was on NHK and had NHK money backing it while Sonic X was just whatever Sega could get out of TV Tokyo which wasn't much, 4Kids funded the 2nd and 3rd seasons since TV Tokyo wouldn't pay for a second season of Sonic X).
>>153886630Most of the American animation houses died out in the '90s. The only folks that're left are Yotta and Titmouse. The former hates working on TV shows and promised never to do so again, and the latter stays busy working with far mare successful streaming services than HBO Max. Japanese studios avoid American companies like the plague due to being treated like content farms back in the '80s and '90s. They'll pitch in here and there on something they like, but not for an entire series, and definitely not for Tiny Toons. That leaves Korean studios, which, contrary to popular belief, have quite competent staff. The problem is, modern American storyboard artists and directors suck, so you don't get anything good out of them anymore.TL;DR: There's barely any studios left, and the ones that remain and directed by clueless CalArts students.
>>153890450>Japanese studios...If that were the case then all of these Crunchyroll, Adult Swim and Netflix "Originals" would've never existed, plus China is already treating Japan as a content farm.It's less to de with being a content farm (as in it has nothing to do with it) and EVERYTHING to do with Japan not having a anti-spy law that allows Chinese and American clients to leak out local projects that are still under NDA, because if Japan had a anti-spy law these foreign commissioned projects would explode to the point of no return.
>>153890577>Crunchyroll, Adult Swim and Netflix "Originals" would've never existedIn those instances, all Crunchyroll, AS, Netflix, etc. do is act as producers. They may say "we want something kinda like this", but at the end of the day, it's still the studio's project, same as any other anime a production committee puts together. Having a Japanese studio work on Tiny Toons would be totally different. It wouldn't be the studio's show, it would be commissioned work. WB would say "we want exactly this, with this script, voice acting, sound effects and music, animated to match the storyboard/animatics that we provide you, over the backgrounds you are given". There's no control to be had over the show in that scenario.
>>153890760No, it wouldn't, in fact with extremally few exceptions all Crunchyroll and Demarco do is bail out the Chinese funding, leaving the Japanese side of the production to figure things out on their own.It's still commissioned work as it's why we're in a glut of shonen, romcom and isekai shows right now, all America is doing is bailing out the Chinese funding.With Netflix it's the Japanese branch that is calling the shots, the US branch has nothing to do with it.
>that time Famicom pretended to be a warner archive employee>or pretended to be an insider on the animainacs reboot saying that they would add a brown haired girl in a red hoodie to the cast
>>153891643KEK, that's industrycuck-tier.
>>153891643>>153891667That was a different guy.
>>153887874>artits a screenshot from the reboot you fucking mongloid
>>153892671He means the art style is garbage you fucking autist
>>153881321This, never found the WB cartoons to be funny or entertaining. Honestly that Batman cartoon has to many boring episodes.
>>153893006
>>153881321Someone this right cannot be allowed to live!
>>153893160No, he is wrong.
>>153881321TTA was the best cartoon released in 1990, unless you think Captain Planet, Tom & Jerry Kids, TaleSpin, Gravedale High and Adventures of Mario 3 were superior.
>>153893416The Simpsons season 1 (and part of season 2) was better than all of those.
>>153893475Not from the same year retard, the fact you moved the goalpost proves that TTA is good.
It was leaked so the paid bots marketing didn't work.
>>153881312It's boring and has nowhere near as good animation as the orignal.Same with Animaniacs
>>153881312I saw clips of the ep where they try and present Bugs' crossdressing as this NB empowerment thing and not just a gag about a dumb hunter wanted to fuck a gay rabbit That was enough, I knew I didnt need to see more
>>153890450>Yotta hates working on TV shows and promised never to do so againCan I have some context here?
I didn't even know it happened. I only knew about the Animaniacs continuation.
>>153893475No it wasn't.>>153893416TaleSpin was actually good.>>153894392That was a reboot, not a continuation.
