OC Editionshow is ded, oc is all we have, post emprev: >>153904467
>Jax is DEAD>Gummigoo is DEADthe only thing that could've made this finale better is Caine staying dead, but 2/3 ain't bad.
Pomni blowjobs
woah did anyone else see that?
Why was the Moon OP from last thread deleted? Did she get frisky again?
OC CRIKEY!
You TADCfags have been through the ringer lately, and I feel bad. You all doing okay? Genuinely?
>>153906917Bubble...
>>153906943for what? the most hated character died and last few threads have been really nice actually
>>153906917They can bring Gummi back though. I would imagine Pomni doesn't since he's just a hollow husk that's been designed by Caine in some form, but they totally can.
>>153906411 (me)i suppose it's just me...
>>153906910Okay, this is a revealing exercise I've done with others, a true test of worth:Sum up in 5 words or less your main takeaway from the story, what you believe the key moral is.
OC ANCHOR+https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25753347-1562-5722i feel a tad embarassed for having my art as OP but very happy too lmfao
Caine got the ending that Jax haters claimed Jax would get. >"We know you put us through absolute hell and used our own pain against us but it's okay we forgive you cause friendship is magic. This truly was the amazing digital circus"
>>153906943> le empath appears
>>153906943Fuck off concern troll
>>153906963I think the one reason Pomni wouldn't is because she is going thru a lot right now figuring out thetruth and real self and such I feel like she does bring him back but only later on when she is readyits implied that the circus map slowly grew and one of the new plces is a desert soo I assume she did bring him back months after the finale
>>153906964Im too shy to cosplay, i dunt like people looking at meare you caine femanon?
>>153906969You always have a choice.
would you cosplay as your oc?
>>153906969Let go.Of people if they don't wanna be helpedOf life if you keep being a bitchOf regrets to be able to move onOf everythingOf reality evenLet go, start over.
The good end
>>153907019*note thet Jax stays dead for no reason in particular
>>153906975Caine is funnier and sexier, so he deserved it more.
>>153906972I want to do some writing, Original Chads. Tell me what your OC is like and I'll do something tomorrow about how he'd interact with them! It'll be a lot easier now that I've got a clear picture of him in my head.
>>153906934Janny felt embarassed how cute..
>>153907019
>>153907019Where's Jax?
>>153906943i'm chillin, it's been a good day so far so even if the endings not the greatest it's not the End of the World. Thank you for your concern tho
>>153907033Sorry, forgot to attach the He. I'm gonna flesh out Crank and I'd love for my boy to make some connections!
A lot of people are comparing the ending to dogshit endings like Stranger Things and The Boys and I disagree. It was mediocre as hell and focused too much on Jax while shafting everyone else, but it was okay. Not great, but not catastrophic either.
>>153906964before the leaks i really wanted to go dressed up as anime jax
>>153907039posted before finale leak btw
>>153906969 Its an amazing digital circus!
>>153906975You mean Jaxfags>Nono it doesn't mean anything that Jax is being accepted with radical kindness without apology or repatriation. Because of this love Jax will definitely make it right in the last episode, he's not like that nasty AI who couldn't changeThe difference being that Caine actually did apologize and make things right instead of doubling down for the 7th time.
>>153907019yikes
>>153906975Cainefags... we can't stop winning!
>>153907059>>153907039>>153907019Ayo Ribbit, think you can introduce me to your sister?, she kinda cute ong frfr.
>>153906997Nah, someone entirely different actually. Really i decided to cosplay super late, but once i realized that TADC'll only end once i said fuck it and started putting together the jankiest cosplay ever seen
caineines have become insufferable all because glitchgoose couldn't give the merch seller a bad end
What are the odds I get seated next to a tranny?
>>153907088frogni
>>153906969kiss frog, turn into princess
>>153907019TIME FOR THE AMAZING DIGITAL ORGY!
>>153907085Under what YT video is this?? link it
>>153907067Only took him 21 years, a dozen abstractions and a mock execution lol
>>153907109idk I stole the cap from twitter
>>153907103
>>153906969Self sabotaging faggots deserve death.
>>153907092Not so fun on the other side of the gravestone is it?Never forget that the only thing that stopped Jax from having this was Jax.
>>153907033Vinny is like 32 year old self-aware himbotries to be nice and polite because otherwise he'd just come off intimidating but at the same time he does enjoy the perks of it so it's a back and fourth of being weary that the others can't look past his looks but also ashamed of what they'd think if they saw the inside!it's like the two sides of one coin and he doesn't want it to fall on either of them.
mwah
>>153907092>Jaxpups now trying to attach the dog joke to a winner>forgetting Jax has more merch than CaineKeep barking
>>153906969Killing yourself bad, unless Jax.
>>153907063Hmm, i know that artist...
>>153907092You really don't have to be this upset. It's just a cartoon show, m8.
what a finale!
>>153906969JAXY ARE YOU OKJAXY ARE YOU OKARE YOU OK JAXY
>>153907124Sorry ribbit, but the circus has a new girl who's hotter than you.
>>153907113Still beats 22 and still no apology eyoh.
>>153907063The fuck is venellope from wreck it ralph doing here?
>>153907176That's the only one you recognize?
>>153907176theyre all loli characters from disney i think the artist is probably just some pedophile but the art is funny
>>153907189Yeah, cute and funny hahaThe joke is toddlercon
>>153907033>>153907050I have been busy with the drawing part so i havent been thinking much about him but slippy is>early 20s>distrustful of almost everyone in the circus>has big barriers to become close to him>favorite adventures are the ones like the stargazing one>deep down he really wants a friendI also imagined him as a poisonous frog so maybe that part will play up somewhere but i havent really thought too deeply about it on how to connectHes kinda like Jax but he doesnt hate anyone or try to push them away because of trauma he just dont trust easily>>153907091There is femanon that is actively doing a caine cosplay here, also another dude that wanted to go as jax to theaters
>>153907184Ooooooh the others are elsa and ana, yeah i know the redhead looked like frankie but for some reason the venellope kid stood out to me
locking Pomni in a full nelson as Ragatha hypes me up waiting her turn
>>153907198HAH!>>153907158source.
>>153907053The longer I've had to sit and digest it the lower my opinion of it has gotten, ngl.
>>153907212You have to be very tiny(Pomni) or very stretchy(Ragatha) to pull that one off.
>>153907207Here is her!>>153907022
>>153907216>source.https://baraag.net/@Strikerdrillo/111414520350153100
>>153906969Goose goons to her self-hatred.
>>153907227I can see why, I watched the leak a few days ago and it hasn't really stuck in my mind like I was expecting it to. It was a serviceable ending, but not a very interesting one.
If yo wanna post uncensored porn you can do here>>>/trash/83002051
>>153907239actually not quite! All you need for a full nelson is someone light and flexible and to be strong enough yourself to hold the position for enough time. (it's actually one of those poses you look really good doing it but doesn't really feel all that great in the flesh lmao)anyways both Pomni and Ragatha are VERY light and flexible as we seen time and time again so I think it's all good!
>>153907292> Jax if he knew what he was doing
>>153906964I don't have the time or desire to show up in a relevant cosplay. The only ones I have the means to pull off is TCM 2 Leatherface and Isaac Foster, that's if they let me in with a full face mask. My only other possible cosplay is in progress. So I'll just go in a suit and tie cause that's fun.
>>153907207>There is femanon that is actively doing a caine cosplay hereYeah, i remember when she first posted about it. To be honest it's partially what inspired me to start cobbling together my little cosplay project that i've got going on
>>153899505 i wonder if anon is still workig on it
Getting your suicidal friend to leave his room by inviting him to watch a movie about him killing himself
>>153907341What character are u gonna do anon
>Caine learned his lesson and decided to say sowwy after he got erased from existenceI'm also loving how The Jax Show ended with the most humiliating possible fate Jax could have because Goose gets horny to his own self-hatre, but come on, don't pretend this is good writing.
>>153906969Just give up, less trouble.https://x.com/i/status/1943747126325833993
>>153907363LOL, this pic is so fucked up in hindsight damn
>>153907363Lmao. They have to had did this to troll.
>>153907363the fact he literally does not appear for any of the other posters implies he refused to go and abstracted in his room just like in the movie
>>153907363*about how everyone else will be better off if he kills himself
>>153907351Thats me lol, for now its just an idea because i was busy with the OC stuffIf you guys wanna give any clothing ideas each main cast character would give for me to draw oska with it i would appreciate it!
>>153907373The lesson is coddling someone will drive them to suicide but tearing down their self image and throwing them into the void will help them grow.
It's sad to think Jax single handedly culled 2 people from the circus and was going for his 3rd with Ragatha.
I read last thread there is an anon who didn't bath themselves for 8 days straightyou folks are weird
>>153906910Endless Jaxfag seething.Eternal GummiGOD jubilantion.How's your medicine? Bitter, isn't it? Ha!
>>153907033>>153907050[no name... yet]>used to be a storm chaser >knows a lot of meteorology >has a suspended pilot's license for being under the influence while flying>lives completely alone and unmotivated to do anything anymore >last bit of optimism is inside an umbrella his grandma gave him (she heard he was some weatherman and decided on an umbrella) before he woke up inside the digital circuscircusself takes the form of an ever raging storm cloud that constantly rains and occasionally strikes lightning on him (hurts like a hard pinch) and he always looks like he's about to cry, whenever he feels like he's about to fucking lose it, his umbrella keeps pulling him back with it's stupid optimism and unfiltered blunt commentsthese either motivate him, anger him enough, or just make him laugh.that's his lore, for now.
human ribbit...
>>153907420by that logic youre a fucking weirdo as well
>>153907427GummiWHO
egg
>>153907264bruh
GummiWhen?
>>153907457I think he means the little shape-things in the pilot
>>153907373You just can't let it go, can you? Keep oversimplifying what happened if it makes you feel better.
>>153907136LITERALLY mindbroken because your waifu got bullied by a rabbit (and has no merch)
Ragatha
>>153906969Existence is absurd. Bring friends.
Ribbit should've gotten close to Ragatha causing Jax to SEETHE
>>153907480pomni fills the shelves in every store wdym
>>153907480Crying_under_troll_mask.jpg
>>153907489Is next on that shota cock(had to 1v1 Gangle to earn the right)
>>153907398>tearing down their self imageHe literally got deleted. People die when they are killed.>>153907419Is suicide a choice or not?
>>153907457GummiBVLL
>>153907439I bathed TODAY, an HOUR agoI take care of myself
>>153907079what if the episode that drops on the 19th of June is a secret 10th episode where it turns out it was all a dream and Caine is deader than dead.
>>153907472>All of your crimes are forgivable as long as you feel bad later and say sorryMaybe the whole moral of this show is just nonsense. Shame I didn't figure it out months ago.
>>153907472How is that inaccurate?
>>153907517No idea who that is, your OC or something?
>>153907511Assisted suicide is a thing, and it was Jax's favorite hobby before he fucked off and died.
>>153907511The 10 seconds before that.
>>153907521>>153907524>>153907525
>>153907520yeah but ur still posting on the thread where a guy doesn't shower, so ur still really weird.
>>153907497>Ribbit leant me her bow, looks pretty cute huh Jax?
>>153907517This isn't the pwn you think it is, those two end up fucking afterwards.
>>153907524And make an effort to make ammends.
>>153907365Yeees, i've been waiting for someone to ask this!Gaze upon the the insanity that will be Mr Composite, composed of things from various places, including Aliexpress. And it's still not done yet, i've got things still coming in the mail! Originally i was going to call my creation Zoogleaxmiertha, but that would be too much to remember i think...
>>153907555After dying?
>>153907562>when the school bully gets beat up into a coma by his dad
>>153907544nono no please dont take him away again. I don't hate Jax or even Jaxfags for the most part. I got carried away with the winning. I'm happy for them to both be forgiven for their terrible crimes. Or they can make out, I don't care. Just don't take him away from me again.
Even if you wanted to have Jax be held accountable, he's mentally unfit. He wouldn't go to prison or anything.
>>153906969Torturing past self is fun
>posted 4th AprilA PROPHET
why did she say this?
>>153907573There's no such thing as death here. Caine chose to walk back because he had people to apologies too.
>>153906969Find a Ragatha wife.
>>153907556Was initially very confused by the image of why does a jax costume have kinger parts but now i read the text lmfao good work anon i hope you are able to finish in time
>>153907532>bark bark bark barkSorry, I don't speak dog.
>>153907602Just another troll, just like when she said that Gangle was gonna be the main focus of episode 9.
>>153906969Must share fetishes to kids.
>>153907602We saw who won tho, Jax won with his bugs bunny super powers
>>153906969Love yourself and love others
Deletion not mattering was such horseshit
>>153906969i need to jerk off
>>153907591It's not illegal to ghost your friends, even if they kill themselves over it. Remember that case where that chick talked her boyfriend into suicide? The lengths she went to in order to convince him to do it, and she only got like a year in prison(But also, being depressed and emotionally unstable isn't the same as having diminished responsibility)
>>153907602Was this before or after episode 6?
>>153907598>A PROPHETor actually goose saw it and wrote it for the 9 last.
Jax is a little like Michael Jackson. it was a show about the jaxson 5 until jax became the mc, they also went through similar tragedies
>>153907640What the hell did you want to happen? For him to be dead forever?
>>153906969Live queer or die hard
>>153906969Kill yourself right now, NOW.
>>153907629>>153907645Oh yeah I forgot about those lol
>>153907634You are so right fat kitty with a orange in its paws
>>153907647But Michael Jackson was a good guy.
>>153907579Anon, something on your mind?
>>153907649I want actions to have consequences, yes Not just the author's pet project suffering
in hindsight, this was a mistake
The circus members should have been the ones to decide that a Godless existence is meaningless, inviting Caine back into their hearts through the power of the digital equivalent of prayer
>>153907662He also didn't touch kids unlike jax
>>153906969jerk off before making something
>>153907591Jax isn't a nigger or muslim. He'd go to jail
>>153907671Instead of wasting our time with filler she wasted our time with faff that went nowhere
>>153907649NTA, but deletion needs to mean something.
>>153907667So why are you okay with Jax dying forever but not Caine then? Was it earned enough for you to just not care?
>>153906969Try listening to Zooble more
>>153907602Jax has NEVER been in a fistfight KEK zooble would wreck that shit, bet Jax hasn't even been punched even in middle schoolfollowing on this which circus members you think have actual fighting experience???>Kinger probably has had a couple of brawls before, accumulating some dad lore>Ragatha, she would never get in a fight, too kind and too much of a doormat>Pomni, definitely had some HS catfights with the "mean girls" >Gangle, probably bullied but never fought back>Zooble, definitely had brawls here and there>Jax... lol, lmao even
>>153907671This is hilarious because we still got filler and no meaning
>>153907644I'm quite sure ghosting someone isn't the same on convincing someone to suicide
>>153906969Killing yourself = makes friends happy
Should have been canon
>>153907666My dad beat me up into a coma, can't say I didn't had it coming.>>153907673true.
So how come Kinger had such good trigger discipline?
>>153907591He was aware of his actions, that is all that matters. Same with Caine. The reasonable punishment would be social rejection, but that doesn't quite fit with the moral of this show. Like I said in another post, it is quixotic nonsense. Some people really are beyond or undeserving of the benefit of the doubt.
>>153907707Boomer /k/ommando
>>153907671Jesus Chris we didn't need 5 sessions, just a few more episodes
>>153907707Gotta defend your interracial family on the mean streets of St. Louis. Place is crawling with water people. They're all whacked out on those government chemicals in the water.
>>153906969Bubble bad. Caine good.
>>153907688Because deletion means deletion, actions should have consequences for all of those involved and it's fucking retarded to backpedal on that just for the author's stress toy to be the only one in the final episode
>>153907703That's a pretty hot ship
>>153907649Yes.>>153907671>"I don't want to waste people's time.">makes the last episode 60% fillerhmn
>>153907671I'd argue episode 7 was filler.
>>153907722Goose couldn't edge that long. Needed to obliterate that self-insert twink at once.
>>153907722Didn't even need that. Just don't waste time on things that are irrelevant and storyboard your show properly. Cellar, keys, peoples room, all stuff that got built for nothing
>>153907722Honestly the finale needed 30 extra minutes or so not even extra episodes. Though it would have been nice.
>>153907716>The reasonable punishment would be social rejection, but that doesn't quite fit with the moral of this showSomething about stating it like this is so fucking funny to me
*jaxifies your ragatha*
>>153907716Ironically enough, social rejection would make Jax not abstract at all lol
>>153907671>I could probably do 5 seasons with filler episodes>would rather have each episode have some meaningful character development>9 episodes, a cast of 7 characters, only 3 get really in depth analysis>most episodes revolve around Jax and his specific issues>barely touch on the rest of the cast, even if relates directly to Jax (talking about you Ragatha)It really needed more episodes
>>153907759If GLITCH could they would
>>1539077365 too, Goose can be very silly sometimes.The character development excuse doesn't work when it's 1/5 of the episode and half of that is a therapy session.
>>153906969Goose is a fucking weirdo
>>153907759Why would you Jax look stupid and weird?
>>153907759If I could I would.
>>153907767>only 3 get really in depth analysisWhat 3 are those? Jax, Caine, and who?Because Pomni, Ragatha, and Kinger all feel a tier lower in terms of analysis, and then Gangle and Zooble just kinda exist together.
>>153907771eh, 5 was pretty important for both Jax and Ragatha.
>>153906910>OC Edition>lack of OC questioni would put the one i made last thread but i think its pretty autistic.
>>153907779>why would jax look like jax
>>153907786This>>153907033
>>153907784It was. Really, Ragatha's episode was split across two- I'd say the second half of 5 and the first half of 6 count as "her episode".
>>153907634Thank u Kit Gameoverse...
>>153907788Sorry meant to type Ragatha Jax looks great as is
>>153907671filler wouldve been nice though with this show, seeing interactions between different characters. We never got a one on one scene with Zooble/Jax or more Ragatha/Pomni scenes to justify their friendship. I mostly watch anime, but I hate this modern thought that media has to be constantly moving forward to be worth it and that filler is worthless. This show would've benefitted from having more time with the characters just doing regular stuff around the circus.
>>153907621i hope i am too, but if i have to i could work with what i have now (Also if you're wondering what the spraypaint is for, it's because i sprayed some old shoes red and blue for the pomni rep)
>>1539077937 should've been the full Ragatha episode.
>>153907716>he was aware of his actionswas this not after he died? before that when can you say he was fully aware of his issues and if he only become aware of his issues when he died shouldn't the story be about someone at his lowest point being in an enviroment where he is destined to die and not someone who chooses not to be better?
>>153906969Own up on what you say6 letters but fuck you
Guys, guys, hear me out. What if the show had another main guy but he never said anything except "heh" once every episode when somebody said something really funny?
I really think Goose pulled a Fujimoto and stopped caring in the last episode
>>153907815That was the original plan for Ragatha.
>>153907797"Muh filler" is just an excuse for writers to write as little as possible and for producers to spend as little as possible.
i wish gangster tshirts were a thing again. A gangster Kinger or gangster Jax shirt would go hard
>>153907822Okay but what if though
>>153907823I imagine that Glitch would've been happy to make a few more episodes. TADC is their gravy train.
Jax having a crush on Gangle feels so last minute..
>>153907784And 7 was important for Jax/CaineBut all of it went fucking nowhere, so both are basically rendered to filler now
>>153907849there were signs
what are these poofs on her shoulder and hip joints called
>>153907849nah, he enjoyed teasing her a lot
>>153907783eeh I personally think Kinger got a fair bit of development over Ragatha, with Zooble and Gangle getting completely shafted, specially Zooble
>>153907855Pom poms
>>1539078507 didn't tell us anything important about Jax/Caine that we didn't know.
>>153907855She has slashed sleeves which are some of my favorite bits of historical clothing.
>>153907818I was gonna get into Chainsaw Man next. Without spoiling, just how bad would you say the ending is in comparison to TADC?It's one thing to underwhelm, but the way TADC basically breaks the entire series and renders it retroactively meaningless is what really bugs me.
>>153907855Chestercuffs
>>153907868Would have been nice if we'd gotten to see that outside of episode 2
>>153907887it was so sudden people thought there's gonna be another part afterwards. so same as TADC lol
>>153907887>It's one thing to underwhelm, but the way TADC basically breaks the entire series and renders it retroactively meaningless is what really bugs me.Well, let's just say that they're similar in that aspect
>>153907796So does Ragatha. So really idk what this accomplished
>>153907887NTA but the story was about 4/5 of the way there but Fujimoto decided to say fuck it and just pulled an ending out of his ass and left. A lot of things are left undeveloped and unfinished but it was just polished enough for some people to see it as an okay ending,
>>153907887>basically breaks the entire series and renders it retroactively meaninglessi'm sorry to say this but Chainsaw Man does this even harder than TADC
>>153907878True, but it set up the conflict of 8, it had purpose at the time (even if it used its time poorly)Too bad the conflict set up is immediately retconned on Jax's side at the start of 8, and then retconned on Caine's side at the end of 9
>>153907894Never was going to happen if Jax is too much of a pussy to show genuine emotions
>>153907887Oh, Anon...
>>153907804Every episode should be the ragatha episode
>>153907887Just read Part 1 and leave it at that.
Millenials can't write endings because they don't think about their futures. Its an ongoing trend.
>>153907901>>153907904Fucks sake
>>153907915Instead we never got a single Ragatha focused episode... :(
>>153907829Gangster kinger can join Ragathug
>>153907894If it even did, it likely happened off-screen like everything else The best we ended up having is that glance on Gangle in Ep8 and him wondering if Gangle could ever really be happy
>>153907925Kingster or Kangster?
>>153907480And your husbando is a cuck dog forever.
>>153907907I mean seeing him bully her in a targeted way. They're barely in 3, the dynamic flips in 4, and then Zooble cucks him for the rest of the series
>>153907906Caine going full villain mode felt forced. There was already conflict bubbling under the surface. It didn't require an inciting incident taking up a whole episode.
>>153907928Also him being clearly displeased with Gangle teaming up with Zooble in 6
>>153907917lmao shit
none of you have the courage to have a funnybunny business card and i pity you
>>153907868i dont really get it. whats the difference in the teasing he does with Gangle like he does with Ragatha?
>>153907942Episode 5 he shoots her and chews her up, then ties a bomb to her.
>>153906969Ribbit is my loving wife.
>>153907931Kingster and Ragathug
>>153907949>we've been together for every team adventure in the past
>>153907961In part, I think he enjoys her reactions when she isn't depressed or with a cope mask
>>153907961Yeah but he was planning to shoot and eat everyone else tooThe bomb thing is a good example though, even if it goes by a bit quick
>>153907974Hilarious that there was a love triangle and it didn't involve Pomni or Ragatha
>>153906969>Sum up in 5 words or less your main takeaway from the story, what you believe the key moral is.Life's shit, but so what?Our main characters find themselves in an intolerable, existentially horrific situation where they are nearly constantly tormented or pushed into depression and where their identity, sanity, and even their fundamental nature are constantly called into question. The characters who make it out okay are the ones who find a way to wake up and face the day and support each other. The one who doesn't is the character who constantly wallows in self-pity and cynicism and makes life miserable for everyone else.Life's shit, but so what? You can get on with it and help others trying to do the same, or you can fucking kill yourself.
>>153907974Would have been nice if the narrative acknowledge this is like 1/10th of how Ribbit must have felt when he started rejecting her for Kaufmo
>>153906969Life is worth participating in.
>>153907992And then people say Jax doesn't get punished for his actions enough
How are we jax haters holding up after the leaks?
>>153907990>The one who doesn't is the character who constantly wallows in self-pity and cynicism and makes life miserable for everyone else.And all those other people who did nothing wrong but didn't make it either.
>>153907982he just seems more fixated on gangle than the others. You can rationalise that as her being an easier target, but I thought there might be more to it than that.
>>153907985a love triangle between the least human characters (excluding kinger)
>>153908014i justified it as her being easy to exploit
One thing I wish the ending would have done is show that Ribbit and Kaufmo were complicated people with their own baggage and that Jax rejecting them and arguing with them was not the ONLY reason they abstracted. It would help ease the weight off of Jax and show that Jax simply needs to grow up and stop putting 100% of the blame on himself.The Jax we saw in those flashback just doesn’t match the Jax we saw in episode 8Jax self-flagellating over his failures really should have been countered with Pomni somehow showing him the good parts, the reasons she cares, helping him accept other’s care instead of just feeling guilty and fearful at the thought of receiving it. He helped her relax in episode 6, helped with the adventure in 7, bought them time in 8. I’m sure he had a positive impact on Ribbit and Kaufmo too for his pulling away to have had such an impact, and as much as he made their mental states worse by retreating, they no doubt both had shit going on that had nothing to do with him.Instead it just ends with him locked in this childish, solipsistic viewpoint of “my mother’s berating me because I’m bad, I can’t meet her standards because I’m bad,” and not “my mother’s berating me because she’s a complicated person with views and morals that might be skewed, I can’t meet her standards because they’re impossible, just like my depressed friends are complicated people who have lives outside of their interactions with me, etc”His life ends with a fucking humiliation ritual reinforcing that everything bad in the world is his fault, followed by everything immediately improving. It’s like Goose wants people to kill themselves. Ribbit and Kaufmo were basically nothing characters that only served to make Jaxs guilt worse.
>>153908014Guess he really REALLY liked her being a submissive doormat.
>>153908010yeah nta but this kinda fucks the themes further, when jax's whole story depends on him kinda deserving it
>>153907992My God anon, not everything needs to be explained or acknowledged We can use our brains to comprehend that is probably what happened, the cartoon doesnt need to do a PSA to explain the plot intricacies for you
>>153908011some would say jax is a sort of protagonist too
>>153907783Pomni and Kinger are definitely a tier or two above Ragatha and depending on how you look at it, Gangle might be too from her character development that went on during the whole show until she opened up enough to be one of the three characters we know have had sex, but obviously below Pomni and Kinger. Ragatha got shafted so hard.
I used to do the same shit as Jax to my crush in preschoolIt's just immaturity on how to properly show love Jax is a very immature character overall
So it was all just an outlet for a tranny to torture and kill the part of himself that still wants to be a man?
>jax is gone >still dominates discussion and the minds of anons They say you die twice. He won
How the fuck is this possible
Jax actually wanted to be Gangle's figurine
>>153908042Especially because when you look at Kaufmo's room during his abstraction, NONE of the scribbles on the wall relate to Jax at all. It looks like he didn't even factor into why he abstracted at all.
>>153908045submissive and agreeable :)
>>153908059>>153908052
>>153908057Always has been.
>>153908054I'm sorry but Ragatha and Kinger are on the same tier. They are both exposition characters and emotion bait but in different ways.
>>153908059Wasted too much time on dollface and zoob.
>>153908045he must be one of those sadists/dominants
>>153908014I get that this is the story, my problem is just that they didn't adequately show it. As with most storylines and relationships, Goose only gives it enough attention to set it up and MAYBE resolve it, but no time to actually let it percolate so we can really buy into it or enjoy it
>>153908059Its his show, dumbass.
>>153908059Jax is the main progatonist and villain.
>>153908005I'm conflicted.>Jax's fate is a Yabbapost>it's a fitting punishment for turning TADC into The Jax Show>the rest of the finale is mid at best>Goose was clearly gooning to his self-insert's humiliating end>the "themes and such" crowd tries to push the idea that suicidal people deserve to die and get mad when you call them out
>>153908054I legitimately don't understand how you guys are all so fucking blind when it comes to Ragatha. Her role and her trajectory are not that hard to understand, and she most certainly HAS had development over the course of the entire series. I really think this has to do with you guys not knowing how people pleasers operate.
>>153908087I think this example is OK. It's additional flavouring for Jax's character, it doesn't need to be a whole thing.
>>153908062My running theory is that Kaufmo pestered Caine enough about the exit that he ended up losing his mind in the processPomni finding the exit door was byproduct of Kaufmo somehow managing to do some conjuring but not being able to open it
>>153908057Basically. But for purely masturbatory reasons.
>>153908052By the metric he's THE protagonist
>>153906972i think i had something but i forgot. dark humor
>Caine finally understands what he did wrong after seeing the gang's human livesIs Caine a visual learner?
>>153908097How's that not the message when everyone is enjoying themselves showing off how much better they're without him and even getting a replacement on his spot in the process?
Why would Ragatha fans expect her to have a similar role to Jax when she's boring and one note, and Jax is one of the most complex characters in animation?
>>153908133get back in the fish tank jax
>>153908130No, he's a plot conveniencer
>>153908062Shit, I hadn't even thought about thatGoose neglecting Kaufmo and Ragatha genuinely leaves so many holes in this story it's unreal
If you go back and watch the original teaser you'll notice Pomni is initially posed like she's holding a sandwich before realizing it's not there. So Goose really did plan the ep8 callback gag from the beginning.
>>153908133lol, funny joke
>>153908145I miss the "mid-Nineties CGI" aesthetic.
>>153908145Caine with small eyes is scary
>>153907797>>153907823People hate on filler because of things like DBZ filler arcs mindbreaking them as kids, but rewatching that show not too long ago, the fillers arcs are mostly pretty good and some of the best parts of the Perfect Cell fight like the Z fighters putting up an actual fight against the Cell juniors and trying to help Gohan by attacking Cell excluding Vegeta's attack are filler. What is actually bad is when the canon stuff like the Frieza fight gets dragged out with terrible pacing to make it last longer.
>>153908130It confuses me that Caine's biggest flaw was that he never listened to the criticism he was given and always tied it back to adventures. I thought it was just that his AI was antiquated and too simple to learn but seeing as to how he is fine now in the ending, I guess he was just a fucking asshole the entire time lol.
Did I miss something or am I the only one that thought Kaufmo abstracting was more on himself going mad about the exit?
>>153908138*cuckquarium>>153908155Anyone got the concept art Caine with the tiny eyes on top of his teeth?
>>153908130the show was about the importance of autism accomodations all along
>>153908123oral fixation my beloved
>>153908143i am so sick of Jax by this point and this show has made it so he's the focal point of all discussions by this point rather than the actual circus premise
>>153908161No, I figured that too.
>PomniAttack on Titan>JaxUmineko No Naku Koro Ni>RagathaPokemon (with English dub)>KingerMacross Plus>GangleAzumanga Daioh>ZooblePsycho Pass>CaineOne PieceAccurate?
>>153908161It was. Kaufmo walks away from Jax after telling him about the exit and Jax is like "have fun going insane"
>>153908145There's a difference between planning a callback ahead of time, and retroactively realising there's opportunity for oneI think I remember one of the animators outright said they were the one who suggested tying the two together, but I don't have a source
>>153908187Why does Gangle have shit taste?
>>153908159The best episodes of The X-Files were, by modern standards, filler.
>>153908163Tell that to Jax fans who are freaking the fuck out at this endingAlso where do Bunnydoll fans fall on this continuum
>>153908187>Jax actually watches the unfinished Umineko anime everyone hatedHe deserved cuck dog hell.
we didn't know just how much of a self-insert Jax was for goose until the finale. looking back it just makes his bloated role like 10x worse.
>>153908163I dont remember ragapommers threatening to kill people and posting about wanting to kill themselves
>>153908187>>153908199she wouldn't watch it anyway because of the problematic teacher
>>153908206Is it really true that Jax is a stand-in for pre-transition Gooseworx? Or just a dumb theory?
>>153908213It's canonically her favorite anime
>>153908203>Also where do Bunnydoll fans fall on this continuum
>>153908219She's been extremely open about Jax being her self-insert from the start
>>153908219What? Are you looking for a line of dialogue or a not on a storyboard note that says >make sure Jax looks and acts exactly like when goose had a penis VERY IMPORTANT TO THE STORY
>>153908161I think he started seeing the exit, tried to tell Jax about it and Jax brushed him off.
>>153908206I knew he was a self-insert, but I didn't think he'd become PURE self-insert at the expense of being a coherent character
>>153907806Yeah that's Caine
Jax read the Umineko VN and it ruined his life
>>153908224oh. I'm shocked she's fine with lolicon
>>153908219It's not. He's still in there post.
>>153908248Just like Digibro. His trans name isn't Daisy, it's Beatrice.
>>153908203>>153908232Yeah we're dead despite the finale actually having a substantial crumb. But it just goes to show how underexplored their dynamic was.
https://files.catbox.moe/nqqwcd.jpg
>>153908219someone post the image(s). it's about as explicit as you could get without outright stating it. the only wrench in the works is Jax's IRL self not being a troon
>>153908219Goose has admitted Jax and Caine are self-inserts and clearly goons to Jax suffering. All else is speculation.
>>153908014Gangle arrived the moment Jax distanced himself from Kaufmo and Ribbit, so she was the perfect candidate to team up with him so he can avoid teaming with Kaufmo and Ribbit.
>>153908057The minute Goose said Jax has issues with women and said he was his self insert, more people should’ve been alerted. I knew there was something up ever since I found out Goose was a tranny at the beginning kek
>>153908286Ribbit abstracted before Gangle joined
>>153908269That extra stuffing didn't help dollface
>>153908267>literally never thinks about her>"I'm getting violent, and I'm going to kill Ragatha.">"Wow the first steps of a budding friendship! Right Ragatha?">"Ragatha tries being all nice and friendly but she gets torn up every other adventure!">"Ugh you sound like Ragatha right now."Sure>Raggy, Rags, Dollface, Licorice Hair
>>153908267They DESERVED an episode together
>>153906943noi'm having trouble sleeping now that the final message of the show is literally pro suicide and giving up on people at the first sign of trouble
>>153908254Accurate. Someone who's moved on from being Jax wouldn't have written an ending that revolves around hopelessly dwelling on Jax's self pity and gratuitous self-inflicted suffering to the exclusion of the stories and perspectives of everyone around him
this is insane
I can't fucking believe that RIBBUN (yes Ribbun) is the Jax ship that's the closest to canon. Goose may be a tranny but he has some good ideas.
>>153908303Lol that picture isn't meant to be a sincere critic of the ship I was just poking fun at shipper attitudes also I'm a bunnydoll shipper and I fucking wish the opposite of what I drew happened. Christ.
>>153908187Jax secretly likes Naruto more than Dragon Ball ZAnd is still Angry that Gangle made him watch Fruits Basket
>>153908133>Complex character and it’s just a tranny’s masturbatory outlet
>>153908303
>>153908130That and text based. He needs the wikipedia articles.>>153908160He never got their criticism because he wasn't from their world and didn't have a clue what the fuck they where on about, and was too Adventure focused to investigate further.It would have been more satisfying if he learned to ask them questions instead of using a browser.
>>153908267Which crumb was that, Ragatha saying they were friends? Jax pouting at Rags' Xed out door? Jax bitch slapping her?
>>153908318
>>153908093>and villain.Jax is the victim. His death makes him literally the biggest victim out of everyone.
To be honest, Ragatha doesn't leave the Loser Corner in episode 6 until episode 9. If you cut out all her screentime in episodes 7 and 8, nothing changes.
When will the chuds leave these threads holy shit it's still on-going?
>>153908317This is GOOD NEWS. Sorry.
>>153908343She spent nearly every moment in 7 and 8 with Pomni, anon
>>153908317We are talking about the Jax show anon, why are you so surprised to see his name so much?btw jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax jax
>>153908318Only Ribbit, Kaufmo, and Pomni were in his abstracting hallucination and Caine's nightmare parade. These are the only beings Jax thought close to him. The rest are below Kaufmo.
Why are indie cartoons obsessed with tumblr sexymen while all their female characters feel so sloggish? it happened with hazbin hotel too
>>153908335>Ragatha saying they were friends? Jax pouting at Rags' Xed out door?yeah
>>153908338I kinda wanna make toxic Ribbun porn now of him demeaning her and shit
>>153908345Chuds helped make the Circus popular. Stop acting raped.
>>153908317
>>153908366He had a fantasy about seducing Gangle away from Zooble's corpse lol
>>153908345
>>153908358Just standing like a tree does not count. Saying what she feels or hearing what Pomni feels count.
>>153908398This general was full of woke faggots correctly gendering gooseworx before the movie leaked, now everyone is he/himming the woman like they're edgy teenagers
>>153908358Everyone is with Pomni in those episodes, anon. Ragatha just stands around while the plot mostly moves along when Jax, Kinger, Caine, or Abel do something at that point with Pomni reacting to it.
>>153908380Jax was mocking Zooble by wearing maid outfit and seducing Zooble's widow.
>>153908410There have always been he/himmers here that's not really unusual, what there has been an uptick is people replying to anons who she/her goose asking why they do it
Ragatha would be better if she wasn't trying to be Ms. Positive all the time.
>>153906943I'm mostly getting over it. The sudden shift still hits me now and then, but I'm more laughing at the absurdity of it all at this pointEventually I'll be glad to take back the time I've sunk into thinking/talking about this show
It's time to admit that Pomni was really interesting for the first 4 episodes but after that she was reduced to be the cameraman for jax's story
>>153908433It doesn't matter anymore anon, she won.
>>153908410I always he/him him because I don't support transgender ideology. It's not healthy and the ending of this series showed it. Unlike some others though, I hope Goose gets the help he needs instead of this being some theatrical suicide note.
I can see the tourist chuds haven't left these threads fully yet but I can't hold this in anymore I want to discuss this, I will write something that confuses me with how Goose handled Jax, anyone who likes the show please reply because this is the only thing I felt was handled really poorly, I enjoyed the finale otherwise (as a Cainefag)This will be split into 3 postsIt is clear that Goose saw Jax as an extension of herself, saying that he's her self-insert etc, that's fine that's how artists make characters at least one of them is gonna have more of "you" in them because you need to write what you know, anyways, what I feel she really dropped the ball on is the entire transgender part of Jax, It just feels like the entirety of TADC Goose tries to tease it, and she makes little nods to it, pretty much every episode there's Jax doing some GNC shit, however, she literally never, in the entire show, makes it the main focus, despite Jax being the main character of the series, this gigantic part of him is just never addressed by any character or himself, you see all the examples in the pic I attached to this post, you see Ribbit giving him her bow and him blushing, you see him alluding that he said something to defend himself from being always compared to his dad and then his mom laughed at him because of it (one can presume he said something like "im not even a man like him" or whatever since he was being abused by his mom partly for being male like his dad), you think, "wow, is this it? he doesn't want to be exposed as trans by ribbit and thats why he's so harsh to her to the point she commits suicide?" but no, its just dropped, every single nod to him being trans is just subtext, even later with the many mental images of jax inside his head there's an allusion to it but that part is honestly confusing with the locked door shenanigans so I don't even want to talk about it, anyways, the point is, this entire facet of his character is just entirely subtext, why?
>>153908366There was a "Gangle" in the DMT trip, but we couldn't be sure it wasn't pareidolia since her face is that much of an inkblot. Weird.
>>153908309nta but sorry to hear that, I feel you. The way fan response has been so polarising too only exacerbates the bad optics. Remember to protect your peace amongst all the shit.
>>153908448Was Goose like, i dont know, scared of making it a main focus? its HER show, I'm sure no one at Glitch was like "noo you can't make him a trans woman the 5% of tourists who for some reason love your show despite it being made by a woke trans woman will get upset!" she wasn't working for fucking cartoon network she's an indie artist, so why? what was the point of making the entire Jax and Ribbit deal so fucking stupid because of this? "sorry Ribbit, I will never speak to you again because... well, uh, you know I hit my mom once lol" like are you fucking serious? the driving force of 3 character deaths including his own (of course, Jax is not DIRECTLY responsible, but still, its a motive) is something that fucking stupid? with all the subtext, teasing, and even off-series posts about this stupid ass trans woman that MADE these characters constantly teasing "teehee this boy is just like me a trans girl hehe wait to see what happens!" leads to NOTHING, its all subtext, at the very least, I could be like, "ok, Gooseworx is a pussy coward bitch, BUT, she made sure that IRL Jax transitioned later! that brings his character full circle" but NO, IRL Jax is just some emo faggot that hangs out with a nonbinary baddie sometimes, does this nonbinary baddie make Jax realize he's a girl? no, does Jax realize it on his own? no, does literally, any of this CONSTANT subtext, meta and non-meta teasing, and enormous gap in Jax's character lead to something? IT DOESN'T!!! He dies a retard, the subtext is still there, it is IMPLIED that he is a repressor, but that's all, it is HEAVILY IMPLIED in the same way that Ribbit is heavily implied to have been in love with Jax, except RIBBIT ISN'T THE FUCKING MAIN CHARACTER AND FOCUS!!! I genuinely do not understand what Goose's goal was, she just completely dropped the ball, literally what the fuck? she handled my beloved glorious king Caine perfectly but her own self-insert she just said "fuck it rush that shit and dont elaborate"?
I'm going to use AI to fix episode 9:^)
>>153908462In a meta sense, does she not realize how absurdly impactful it would be for a show THIS ENORMOUS to have the main focus be about a trans woman repressing and killing herself because of it, showing that its important to not repress and instead just come out and become true to who you feel you should be? that everyone around Jax would actually have supported her and that Jax was wrong is closing herself off? that would be absurdly impactful the same way Steven Universe was impactful to our generation back when we were kids, even in a non-"it makes sense for Jax's character" sense, in a real world sense she could have impacted the lifes of literally millions of people for the better with this.Was she scared of the reception? that some mexican latinx would shoot her in the head for corrupting the ESL youth that love TADC theater plays? I seriously do not understand, the way Goose handled Jax is possibly the worst way I've seen any person handle a character they created, its like she just got tired of writing him and pussied out on the major depth to his character (being a repressing transgender woman), I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this from people who also deeply enjoyed the show, I do not care if you are some outdated ape stuck in the past still thinking trans people are evil or whatever, you don't belong here and I will ignore you.This the the third and last post of my feelings on how Goose handled Jax confusingly, sorry for how long it is but no TL;DR here, I love Caine
>>153908459>The way fan response has been so polarising3 camps1. This is fucking awful, this is so bad it's soured the whole show, everything about this is deeply unsatisfying and makes me feel awful. 2. I enjoy seeing people upset because i'm a bad person so i like this3 I am better than you so i will pretend that this isn't the worst thing ever and use generic, meaningless phrases instead of explaining why it isn't shit
>>153908442yes. she lost her protagonist status
>>153908324>Jax secretly likes Naruto more than Dragon Ball Zlmao this feels so accurate
>>153908317there are some other threads where Ragatha gets well over 100 mentions and Jax gets comparably few
>>153908410>This general was full of woke faggots correctly gendering gooseworx before the movie leaked
>>153908443An undeserved win considering Jax was carrying the show
>>153908410As someone who uses they/them for goose, i think you care too much
please make the Ragatha pendants happen GLITCHhttps://c.org/B4BWchKRHR
>>153908499aka the best threads
>>153908473Honestly true, it would have caused an absolute shitstorm and would have made it extremely controversial. But I would be impressed by the balls to show something like a closeted trans person killing themselves due to repressing their feelings like that. And honestly, as controversial as it would have been, it would have made Jax's death more impactful since there would be a very overt and raw meaning to it. A lot more impactful than just "hurr durr im a fucking asshole retard and im gonna kill myself now even though i dont wanna".
if your favorite character is anyone other than jax you were simply wasting your time, jax is the only real character and everyone else is in service of him.and the best part is it's better that way
>>153908529Whatever you tell yourself goose
>>153908529if you don't like Jax you're simply watching the show wrong
>>153908499Those are often the worst threads filled with doll fuckers.
>>153908367because those said cartoons are made by fangirly womans (not you cooper) and thats the only thing they know or write
how to stop the ticket refunds>air the movie as intended>force all of the voice-actors to do retakes on their lines, knowing about the leak>use these new depressing & defeated sounding retakes in the youtube uploaddo it you greedy fucks. it could be funny.
>>153908341yeah, victim of his own bullshit.
>>153908528Exactly, it felt to me like Goose split the story into 3 parts1 - "woaaa we are trapped in the circus!! what happened omg!"2 - Caine and King's IHNMAIMS focused story (my favorite part)3 - Jax's personality and transgender issuesShe dealt with "1" in like 5 minutes at the end because it was the least interesting part so whatever, then she handled "2" pretty damn well aside from not having enough focus on Queenie and Scratch (like 10 more minutes focused on them would have been great), but then she completely gave up and fumbled "3" entirely, making Jax just come off as a total retard with his entire depth being subtext every single episode and everywhere but never actually brought up seriously in the show even though everything was leading up to it
I'm kind of exhausted at the Ragatha discourse at this point. Not even that I disagree with all of it, just that there are so many people that take the most uncharitable readings into every writing decision and character trait. It feels like absolutely no one is happy with Rags, either because they think she didn't get enough, or they just didn't care about her at all, and in a show where suspect writing decisions affect pretty much all of the characters I'm tired of Raggy being singled out as some sort of "failed character".Of course I wanted her to get more. Of course I hoped her relationship with Pomni got at least one more scene to themselves. Of course I wish they gave us more Ragatha and Jax lore. But Ragatha's overall arc is still a complete one, and a cathartic one at that.There's a lot that was done right with her, and it bugs me that both camps of people I mentioned don't see it. They must not be people pleasers or really understand how they operate.I really don't want the majority consensus of this fandom to be that she was inconsequential. It's so unfair.
>>153908341>deathWorse than death. So much worse than death it's comical.
>>153908267why the FUCK was there not one ep where it's focused on them, ITS NOT FAIR
which one is goose
>>153908410>woke faggots>edgy teenagersdo you like anybody?
Ragatha was pointless. Simple as.
>>153908462>the driving force of 3 character deaths including his own (of course, Jax is not DIRECTLY responsible, but still, its a motive) is something that fucking stupid?Goose ruined the concept of an abstraction chain all because he wanted the self-insert tranny plot. God.
>>153908627woke faggots is a compliment
>>153908619I dunno about goose but frizzledrip is vivziepop
>>153908317RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHARAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHARAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHARAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHARAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA RAGATHA
>>153908630>>153908587
>>153908630We've know that since episode 3. Ragathags won't be deterred.
>>153908580This entire finale needed an extra 30-40 minutes or so. So many scenes feel like they're trying to end as soon as possible so they can get to the next thing that needs closure. So much in fact that by the end of the episode it feels like everything culminated too fast and nothing actually fucking happened.
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