I noticed that, strangely, there’s a whole generation—maybe two—of Brits who don’t care about their country’s own comics and just focus on the US, mainly the "Big Two." I find that strange due to all the crossover they have, but the only people I see talking about British comics tend to be the old guard.Oddly enough, I see younger Americans talking more about Judge Dredd than young Brits, but why is this? I noticed most of these young Brits are usually Marvel fans, but it’s just strange to see a YouTuber who is British, yet all of their videos about comics are on US ones—like their own books don’t exist.I understand that in the US, British comics had bad distribution, which made them bomb, but younger Americans seem interested. Maybe it’s because US people are more all-around readers, but I don’t know. There are also a lot of old British guys who don't seem to care about their country’s comics, but why is that?As a kid in the US who first saw Judge Dredd in the Batman crossover and later a pinball game which had a painting of Judge Death that scared the shit out of me, I thought British comics were cool looking at them online just because they were like looking into a grittier, edgier window. I wish I could've gotten a hold of them, but I never did. I remember digging through some at a comic shop, but I didn't have any money to buy them. I have gotten a few since, but I still find it weird that British kids just ignored them.
>>153912414British niggas are obsessed with fucking Spider-Man.
Part of it is a cultural shift, British comics were largely stuff like Sci-fi or war or countercultural, cynical stuff that was popular with late boomers/gen Xers. Younger generations lack the same irreverence/cynicism and grew up in the shadow of American popculture, which includes superheroes.
>>153912751Damn. I hope they'll at least take him out for dinner first.
>>153912781I can agree with that, they also don't want be different from the US in a way the older gen did, where they take US things and twist it and mold it to fit their country, the younger gen just straight up copies most the time.
>>153912414The Stallone movie tanked any kind of mainstream success for Dredd or 2000AD for over 30 years. It will take a live action movie that is universally loved to save it.
>>153912923It doesn't help how British comics were published in the US was really retarded and not done well, even though all they really had to do was set up their own little shop for printing in the US and change the price but no they reformatted, printed things out of order and shift stuff around. It's pretty insane the US gotten more manga which as to be translated than it's gotten British comics just because they weren't retarded when figuring out how to bring it here.
British comics are too caustic for the general public, but they attract American comic fans who are insecure about reading funny books.
>>153912414Simple, we have color.
>>153913324You come off as incredibly insecure yourself.
>>153912414She is the best female character in comics.
>>153912751Is that true?
>>153912414I couldn’t get into Dredd until my 30s.
>>153915139why?
>>153912414I think it comes down to two reasons. >a lack of exterior media like shows, games, and FilmsWhile the Dredd Films exist and there is that Rogue Trooper game from twenty years ago there is a lack of new stuff being shown that would be targeted to kids. Last time it had a TV ad was the 90s, so it's simply that kids just don't know the magazine even exists, but they do know characters like Spider-Man and Batman exist, thanks to exterior media, which Rebellion just hasn't done.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7D8Sud2akw>a lack of local community were local people get together to recommend and discuss books(basically a lack of an LCS for most of the UK)Since 2000 AD is mostly sold in newsagents in the UK you kinda lack the specialised community that exists in LCS in America so you won't get a grognard recommending older books to a younger person in a local organic way.
>>153915303Kids don’t appreciate it properly.
>>153915139I would have loved it as a kid, but didn't have access until my 20s.
>>153914390Someone pointed out but a lot of Spider-Man comic YouTubers are British for some reason
>>153917685>a lot of Spider-Man comic YouTubers are Britishsuch as?
>>153912414>US people are more all-around readersU whot mate?
>>153912414>the only people I see talking about British comics tend to be the old guardDOWNHILL DUGAN OF THE TOBOGGAN PATROL PLEASANT VALLEY COMPLETELY HETEROSEXUAL GIRLS' SCHOOL MILLER'S KILLERS REAL HE-MAN WW2 ADVENTURESWESTERN TALES PUTTING TOWNS IN THE WRONG STATESand of courseCAPTAIN MARVEL WITH THE SERIAL NUMBERS FILED OFF
>>153917942Which one is Dan Dare?
>>153917942Also I can't state this clearly enough, even being a weekly is a shit excuse for typewriter lettering when the rest of the world with flush toilets recognized how awful that looks so it's really unpleasant to read.
>>153917994ROY RANDY vs THE PUKONS, AGAIN
>>153918042Isn't that only Commando that uses that Typeface still?2000AD doesn't anymore
>>153917942There's this tribute art of every iteration of Captain Marvel including even characters inspired by and comic book characters who just happened to have the same name and Alex Ross is a perfectionist about itSo much so that when Ross gets to Miracleman, instead of drawing him in Mick Anglo's style, Ross just draws him in CC Beck's which has to be the subtlest "fuck-you" I've ever seen in AR's work.
>>1539180792000AD was the first to dump typewriter lettering
>>153918257So it's not a problem in modern UK comics then, it's just a creative choice
>>153918278When UK comics were weeklies and art was coming in from all over the world, nailing down scripting was considered a last minute job for the assistant editor so they got stuck typing and pasting down the dialogue instead of not fucking doing weeklies any more
>>153913806Is she?
>>153912414Brits are the best comic book writers.
>>153912414Didn't Brits block 4chan?
>>153912414Future tech is seriously so cool
>>153922388I don't know.
all the competent British comic creators went to the US.
Rebellion needs to make a good Judge Dredd game already, Dredd vs Death was for the fucking ps2.
>>153918239I wonder why.
>>153922388No, not yet, but it's coming due to our Authoritarian government>>153924268I disagree with that 2000AD still gets decent creators that rarely if ever get their toes into American comics, even image ones like Rob Williams, Ian Edington, Henry Flint, etc.And even if they do go to American comics, a lot of them come back, like Dan Abnett or Garth Ennis
>>153925643It would be too expensive for the studio. If it failed, it would kill Rebellion and thus kill Dredd. Having said that, obviously a big open world judges vs criminals would kick ass.
>>153927467Cheapest way to test the waters might be hiring Tribute to make a Dredd beat em up.Lawgiver would be godly to play with in a proper FPS/TPS environment though.
>>153927013Very blackpilling to see the Henry Flint Omega Men run storytimed here and all the Americans just complaining about the art.
>>153928237why?Flint draws great allies
>>153928280Aliens*Shakara was a strip of nothing but cool-looking Aliens
>>153912751It’s typically either Spider-Man or Batman, but Batman is usually the favourite, at least from my own experience.The other side of it is that for whatever reason they do not want to push those characters. I’m a zoomer and think Dredd is cool(my grandfather is a fan of him too) but outside of a decade-old movie the only thing they still sell for him that I have seen are overpriced reprints.
>>153912414>Oddly enough, I see younger Americans talking more about Judge Dredd than young Brits, but why is this?Judge Dredd 2012 and its ultraviolence in a sea of feminine drek captivated themThey haven't read any of the comics except maybe one or two from IDW, and if they did it probably made them swear off the IP because IDW is gay>>153912751Might be because of the Sony presence but if you look into the actual comics, especially when they do anything with """British""" characters or Spider-UK, you suddenly feel alienated because their Bri'ish characters are racial caricatures, sometimes outdated even for American tastes, and that's before you hit the race swaps>>153922388For some reason westminster aren't when it's fully within their power and their ideology (even banning reddit would be logically consistent with uniparty ideals)They at one point had a bill to outlaw AI that was written as "Any tool that can create unclothed images of a person" which would mean pencils and paper, let alone any image editor
>>153928594Rebellion is at least seen the success of DC compact comics and making more digest-sized reprints in the future priced at £10
>>153928280>>153928340IDK, because it wasn't house style or whatever? I agree. Couldn't understand it.
>>153928731British characters are okay when they are written by British writers, it's why I found books like The Union or even Captain Carter minis, but Americans always fuck it it was part of the reason Tini Howard Excalibur was an unbearable read
>>153928770From what I’ve seen they start next year, so I’ll probably pick them up if I see them. The DC compact line and the Marvel equivalent are selling more than I think any other comic has here for years.
>>153928192I would love a beat em up in this world. You would have to have a crossover style game with multiple 2000AD characters though. Once you use Dredd and Anderson, you’re kinda out of characters most people might know.
>>153929090I'm not super well-read into the mag but I think this is definitely the way to go. Just off the top of my head for a starting playable cast:>Dredd>Anderson>Johnny Alpha>Hammerstein>NemesisMaybe Walter as the obligatory joke character.Torquemada and Death could be unlockable characters after beating them as bosses.Old One Eye and Satanus as large bosses/pallete swaps. Max from Thirteenth Floor would make for an interesting hazard filled level.SHAKARA could be in the main cast or DLC, Brenneka as a pallete swapped boss version.>>153928237>>153928340Yeah that's an insane lack of taste from them, Shakara is easily one of the coolest looking comics I've ever read.
>>153928953Just hope they're comics that aren't just Judge Dredd, 2000AD has plenty of great strips that would work well in the compact format
>>153929783I love how they won’t get rid of Walter.
>want to read all of dredd>case files I don't have are out of stock and have been for yearsPain
>>153930286You know what you must do...
>>153920220Yes. Read her stuff.
>>153912414A lot of places here don't really have an LCS. As a kid 20+ years ago, if I wanted a comic I'd have to go to a). the newsagent/corner shop or supermarket, where the selection would be Beano/Dandy, a Simpsons comic plus whatever Marvel/DC they had bothered to stock, IF they something other than Spider-Man/Batman in the first place, or b). the local library, where they might have a comic or two outside the Big 2, but not usually. Or there would be forbidden option c). ride an hour-or-so to London on the train, get lost and still find nothing, give up and go back home again. British comics didn't really "exist" in my experience; you don't know what you don't know, after all. And this is also a time where PlayStation Demo discs were still a thing bundled with the PlayStation magazines, so my pocket money was often going on those.>>153922388Still here, but I'd give it 2 more weeks :^)
>>153912414Dredd is due for another Batman or Lobo crossover miniseries.
>>153932675Alan Grant is dead and no other writer is interested in doing those
>>153933600Wagner is still kicking.
>>153933616Wagner doesn't like Cape charecters him, and Pat Mills ' disdain for the genre is why 2000AD only has like two cape strips in its entire history, and one of those is about how superheroes turned evil and killed most of the planet
>>153933647For saying he doesn’t like them, he writes a very interesting set of Batman crossovers.
>>153933715He co-wrote those with Alan Grant.Besides, he is retiring when the Rok of the Reds is finished in the Meg
>>153929821From what I saw, Rebellion are open to doing more Dredd books depending on sales, so I assume if the books are successful enough they hopefully may also reprint other 2000AD comics.>>153932070I’m a zoomer but this sounds like a slightly better version of how things were for me. Outside of newer stores like Forbidden Planet, my only real options were the small sections at bookstores and old issues at second-hand stores. I’ve recently seen supermarkets stocking reprinted F4 and Spider-Man(both from 2022 runs) but I never had anything like that a decade ago.
>>153933750The Reds will never end until he dies. He just loves sci-fi soccer stories so damn much.
>>153934201He does feel like it's going towards a conclusion right now
>>153933647He probably likes some the way Mills does.
>>153912923They literally made one like 15 years ago
>>153936981Which ones does Mills like? Since I think outside of the Punisher, I'm drawing a blank
>>153937020It was closer to being universally ignored
>>153926897Ross is more than capable of catching the differences between Anglo and Beck and reproducing Anglo perfectly. He doesn't even put MM close to CM or Batson, MM's far left next to Grandpa Max like he's an afterthought. Marvelman is a fucking disgrace, only rescued from oblivion by a writer who put more work into the title than Anglo did. Ross twists the knife by putting Moore/Totleben's Johnny Bates more prominently in the image.
>>153937167PerhapsJust perhapsDredd is about as universally loved as Robbie Williams
>>153937337>Robbie WilliamsNo one outside of the UK knows who that is
>>153912414What if Judge Dredd was a monkey ? would he be more popular ?
>>153922388Did they?
>>153937489You're so close to getting it
>>153937128Ditko Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Returns, and Watchmen.
>>153937272Damn.
>>153912414Brits are obsessed with America lately. Probably because they've let their own country fall to what they call "wogs". It's surreal, seeing videos on youtube with a brit going on and on about american cartoons during the 80's, even though we know they didn't get them till like a decade later. It's like they're latching onto a culture and past they never had because they hate themselves or something. Wouldn't be the first time white people did THAT, though, right?
>>153941986America is the center of the world.
>>153942694Center of the universe.
>>153940377The Ditko Spider-Man inclusion is a surprise
>>153939490I think more people in the US generally know Dredd than the average Brit simply due to population metrics of both countries
>>153937559No, but I do love Noam.
>>153912414muslims don't read comic books
>>153925643I agree with this statement.
>>153912797Are you kidding? Youthbongs can't afford to eat out.
>>153912964>just because they weren't retarded when figuring out how to bring it here.It's just the pure vital energy of manga that did it tb h, Viz had like three separate retarded incarnations before they managed to figure out how to do anything rationally.
>>153912964>all they really had to do was set up their own little shop for printing in the US and change the priceIsn't that what Rebellion has just recently done?since they now print the progs and megs in the US
>>153922388The extreme ineffectuality of the Labour government means that they contented themselves with sending 4chan an angry letter that if they kept operating they'd be fined. Now, 4chan's servers and owner are located in a completely different jurisdiction and the website probably doesn't even have a mailing address, so the threat was about as effectual as giving a eunuch a blowjob.
>>153947236Ofcom is apparently going to court to make UK internet Providers ban the 4chan IP but that could that a while
