Charlie is 6 feet and 6 inches tall btw.
>>153924759
Why are all indie cartoons like this?
>>153924759imagine punching her in the face
>>153924793You just described WLH.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sso57rrNcoU&
>>153924759I wanna masturbate in her hair.
I wanna lick Vaggie's sweaty pits to remind her why she is a dyke.
Tom Kenny was in HB, but is he in HH? That's the only way I'll care.
Angel blood looks like it tastes delicious.
I want to smell Husk's dick.
>>153924759Damn that's a big ass penis.
>>153924816>shrinking Charliethis is a crime
>>153925174Imagine having Charlie as your penis. All she can do is be jerked off against her will and smell your musk.
>>153925174>Oh, thanks babe!
>>153924759And she has awful hooves. I'm all for spiting footfags, but this is ugo.
>>153925288Her hooves are cute.
>>153924759Sauce? Otherwise, just headcanon
>>153924793Never gets old
>>153925373Google
>>153924759How did vivzipop win. Indie animation is recently getting shit on ever since the tadc final got leaked
>>153925659Because almost everyone has low expectations or no expectations at all from Hazbin Hotel.
>>153925288Wouldn't hooves make dressing up a lot more difficult? Like putting pants on gotta be even more challenging with those.
>>153925659Hazbin Hotel is in a weird place of not being "indie" enough since its funded by Amazon, while produced by A24 who are considered an independent company, but are still a pretty big name.
I just rewatched most of the season 2 songs and they're not as good as season 1. Trust Us and Gravity were decent but that's about it
>>153925838it was a filler season that that is understandable
>>153925720every night she grows those soft hoof tendrils foals have when they're being born so they don't shred their mothers on the way out and she sheds them once it's pants time.
>>153925655No source, got it. So it's just headcanon.
>>153925659How is it that TADC, Avatar The Last Airbender movie and even The Boys all got leaked but nothing from Hazbin? Last year someone managed to the entirety of episode 2 a year in advance. The storyboard version anyway
Me too. That means she's my girlfriend now so all of you nerds can just fuck off.
>>153925105Angel Dust sounds like Brooklyn SpongeBob so kinda?
>>153926071People are scared of Viv. If they leak something they know she will vore them.
>>153926101I'm sorry. Who is your girlfriend?
>>153926175Hot
>>153926101ok manlet
Terrifyingly small amount of fat/inflation art
>>153926152Will they finally give him a personality in S3?
>>153926071The Hazbin season 2 leak was a success that made fans more excited for the new season too
>>153926286>when Valentino walks into the porn studio
>>153924759This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS, HOMERSEXUALS and Lesbialas.
>>153926359>2021What?
>>153926392I like lesbialas-sass
>>153926409It's and oldie but a goldie.
>>153926495How does it have a screencap?
>Be Anon>Be stupid idiot bored out of his mind>Think summoning a demon sounds cool>Find ritual on shady forum and give it a go>Demon in question seems... nice? Cheery, even>She seems excited to learn about the living world, wanting to see it for herself, but 'rules' of some sort prevent her from visiting herself>So she offers a deal to 'borrow' something of yours every so often>Like the dumbass you are, you accept without thinking too hard>Turns out the Anti Christ is complete ass at making actual deals>Her deal somehow results in a "Your Name" situation with Anon and Charlie trading places back and forth every other dayI'm sure NOTHING would go wrong with this at all.
>>153925211Shrink her smaller
>>153926537Is Charlie even supposed to be the Anti Christ? If she is she absolutely sucks at that role. She's not charismatic. She can't convince people at all. She's incredibly unintelligent. Not gonna debate her looks since show does not really go into insane detail.
>>153926616Vox is unironically better at being the Antichrist.
>>153926180The one with the short blue hair.
>>153926989Pic?
>>153924759Charlie is best tumblr sexyman
>>153926871Real
>>153925838I just rewatched most of the season 1 songs and they're not as good as season 2. Stayed Gone and Out for Love were good but that's about it
>>153927097She's a woman so she can never be a Tumblr sexyman. It's just not possible.
>>153927172what a shame. at least visually, she has a lot of great sexyman traits.
>>153927220She really doesn't.
>>153927220They all do, and credit to Viv where it's due: there's no fatties in this show.
>>153927322Wrong
>>153927380Ok fine, BESIDES Adam and his retarded son. I swear to god if Viv makes picrel fat...
>>153927322>>153927380Debatable since Adam's body type is drawn super inconsistently depending on the scene. It's kinda hard to tell if he's actually chubby or it's just the robes.
>>153927408Brother are you serious? Cain is either going to be a tall twink or a twunk. There's no chance Viv is makin the first murderer actually chubby.
>>153927429Inconsistent in season 1 but they've settled on BIG for season 2.
>>153927429>There's no chance Viv is makin the first murderer actually chubby.Good.
what I wanna know is when season 3 is coming
>>153927641Around this time next year would be my guess.
>Lucifer not being able to hurt sinners is bad>Adam being able to hurt sinners is badBut why though.
>>153924759How do I get a tall gf?
Adam and Lilith sexually dominating Lute.
>>153927711Because Viv does not think this shit through and get easily sidetracked.
>>153927754>Little Lute sandwiched between their huge bodies.
>>153927810Imagine her face.
>>153927720Try and find one who's having difficulties dating because of her height. If people were intimidated by her then you have a higher chance of her accepting you.
>>153927800And later, you have people in this very same board praising her retarded take on Christianity, also it is so retarded that Lucifer is able to hurt THE SAINTED MAN, FIRST SON OF GOD AND ANCESTOR TO JESUS CHRIST THAT ADAM OF THE GENESIS WAS without him getting HOLY RADIATION which would burn him
>>153927916She doesn't actually research anything. She really only know the most basic things about abrahamic works because that's probably what she was taught. Viv straight up didn't know Saint Peter was a real guy. Why do you think she goes with the whole "Story of Adam and Eve is sexist towards women". It's because that's the version she was taught.
>>153927916Have they used the "God works in mysterious ways" line yet?
>>153927916>>153928444>her retarded take on Christianity>proceeds to yap about some retarded fanfiction where Adam...>Adam, the regular human guy who got kicked out of paradise, worked as a farmer, had kids, and then died, doing literally nothing else of note or value in his entire canonical life>Adam, who is only ever brought up after his death in the canonical text as a complete fuckup in direct CONTRAST to Jesus>...is somehow a magical venerated, sainted paladin with an attack aura that burns (also dumb, non-canonical fanfiction) fallen angelsDunning-Kruger in full force.
>>153924816>Why are all indie cartoons like this?Fat white women like tall lanky men because it makes them feel less fat.
>>153924816>>153925211Shortstack Charlie would be a blessing.
>>153928444>She doesn't actually research anything. She really only know the most basic things about abrahamic works because that's probably what she was taught. Viv straight up didn't know Saint Peter was a real guy. Why do you think she goes with the whole "Story of Adam and Eve is sexist towards women". It's because that's the version she was taught.Pretty much Alastor is just rhe Onceler from the cg dr suess movie. Charlie is a generic disney princess. Its not that deep. The references dont go that far back.
>>153926152>>153926286>>153926318>Valentino goes through Goodness School in an attempt to not be a gay rapist.>Cue "It's not my wallet" scene but it's Angel Dust's collection of dildos.
>>153927380Holy KEK
>>153929081Actually Alastor is nega version of some furry oc of her's from Zoophobia. But yeah the Lorax 3d animated movie wrecked this woman's brain.
>>153928775She's not gonna show God since she's afraid it gonna piss people off. Same for Jesus. Ignoring the fact that there's literally a character named the speaker of God and that we literally see Saint Peter ( even if he's some weirdo blonde twink).
>>153929514Peter is not revered in the same way. God is though so
>>153929521Did not mean in that reverence way. I mostly meant to say the she was already opening a big can of worms by adding the speaker and Pete. The show does have Azazel as one of Charlie's contacts which makes things even more confusing.
>>153929615I mean not really opening a can of worms. She's clearly skittering around it. She even said that the good and evil entities are the closest we're going to get to exploring any deities. But I also wouldn't be surprised if we do get God, even as a cameo. Not sure though. In the spindlehorse server thing, they said they were not going to introduce any more biblical figures. So who knows
>>153926537>You are Anon.>Or at least, you were yesterday.>Back when you decided some ritual to summon the Anti Christ was worth trying out for the lolz>Apparently the Anti-Christ herself sucked at making her own deals. And through some astronomically poor wording, you woke up this morning in a bed that wasn't yours, next to a grey chick you'd never seen, in a body drastically different to the one you'd spent your entire life in.>You just BARELY managed to convince... Vaggie, that you'd just woken up on the wrong side of the bed. The fact 'you' had an important meeting with Heaven seemed to help.>What didn't help were 'your' notes that 'you'd' planned for said meeting.>A bunch of literal crayon drawings of smiley faces.>Trying to put together a more coherent pitch based on what little info you could gather without looking like a bigger idiot than you already did wasn't easy, to put it nicely.>Glancing down at them in the folder you'd put together, you sighed, leaning back in the pearly chair as this fat jackass kept on rambling.>"And so, I was playing this gig...">It'd been like this for the better part of an hour, now.>Apparently the First Man, Adam himself, really loved running his mouth.>And eating ribs.>And... playing in a band?>Well Hell itself amounted to "Chicago with a red filter" from what you'd seen, so anything was possible at this point.>Groaning at the third tangent this guy had started on, you rubbed the bridge of your nose.>"OKAY Adam, I THINK I get it, so ca-">"Shut up, bitch I'm talking." The angel interrupted, waving you off.>You sighed, your head slamming against the table, obnoxiously long strands of platinum blonde fluttering around you. Slowly looking up, your chest squishing against the table's edge, drowning out Adam's rambling, your eyes fell on the plate of messily eaten rib bones...
>>153930086>Wait...>The gears in your head started turning.>"So... Just HOW much do you like ribs, Adam?">The tangent you hadn't been listening to suddenly paused, the yellow LEDs on the archangel mask turning toward you before scoffing.>"Fuckin' LOVE 'em, obviously." He smugly said, "Hands-down, BEST food humanity ever made. Though steak comes close sometimes... Oh! Can't forget milkshakes and...">"WELL..." You quickly cut off, not needing another tangent, "Some places down in here have some... SUPER good ribs!">"Pffft! Doubt it.">"And since you... obviously, don't give a shit about... uh, MY rehab hotel... how about I offer you a bet?" Adam's brow raised at your offer, smugly smirking.>"No fucking duh I don't. They're SINNERS, who'd ever give a rat shit what happened to them?">"Sure! Fair feeling!" You wave off, "But I think I CAN rehabilitate sinners. I'm SO sure of it, I'm willing to wager on it!" Folding your arms, you try looking confident as Adam laughs.>"Pretty fuckin' STUPID wager," The first man chuckles, standing up and approaching, "but sure! I'm all too happy to win a bet, girly.">The angel towered over you, your proud smirk faltering slightly as the glowing yellow face grinned down at you.>"W-well... if I can redeem ONE sinner before the next extermination... y-you have to call them off!" Adam's grin only grew.>"Sure, and when you don't...?" He asked...
>>153930099>"If I don't, then... I will... buy you some of the BEST ribs you can get down here in Hell! All you can eat, a-and on me!" You stammer, hoping the archangel will take it. Adam's lips pursed>"Hmmm..." He hummed for a second, eyes narrowing as thought in deep thought. Another drop of sweat passed down your stark white face, eyes clenching as you awaited a rejection...>"You got yourself a bet, sugartits!" Adam laughed, your posture loosening as you let out a sigh, "Let's shake on it." The angel said with a gleam, putting his hand forward. Smiling in relief, you reached to shake before your hand passed through.>"HA!" Adam snickered, "Fuckin' GOT you, again!" Pumping his fist, your eye twitched at recalling he was just projecting himself into the room...>Holy shit this guy was obnoxious.>"Well, Adam..." You stutter, gathering your papers, "I'm... glad we could at least, try coming to an arrangement!" Forcing a smile, you turned to leave, "So I'll get to work and see you... sometime before next year!">Finally. Fucking done with him. Whatever happened next was hopefully not your problem by->"Yup! See ya' in 6 months, bitch!">By the time you processed that, you'd already stepped out the door.>"Wait, 6 months?">From what you'd gathered, these culls were an annual thing.>"Oh! Forgot to tell you~" Adam sighed, feigning dismay, "We're cuttin' the time between exterminations by half!" He laughed obnoxiously as the door began to close, "Hope that's not a problem!">Turning, you almost stumble over trying to keep talking.>"Hold on! I didn't-">"Mark the date down, babe!" The First Man chuckled before the door shut, "Lookin' forward to those rubs!" He sneered as the door shuts against your hand.>"...fuuck..." you sigh, the weight settling in.>Somehow get one person in Hell redeemed, or watch an obnoxious fatass gourge himself on meat that you'd have to pay for...
>>153924759Most of the demons in the series are fucking huge.Angel Dust is like 9ft tall if im not mistaken. Stolas from Helluva Boss is also over 9ft tall.
>>153930108Tranny cringe. Get jaxdog'd
>>153924759she would be better if she was chubby
6'6" of pure incompetence
>>153930981Not happening Viv hates fat people. Plus she has a weird disinterest when it comes to her female characters.
>>153930981>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
>>153930981It would be a lot hotter if she burst
>>153931122>Viv hates fat peopleJust when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
>>153927641god i wish that were me
>>153924759Charlie is cute, but>hoovesruined
>>153931803I don't remember but did she have those in the pilot? I know for sure her ass got nerfed after the show got picked up.
>>153931676Understandable but I'm tired of just skinny fucks. Show some people with actual muscle.
>>153925823>make the short characters hook upRacist fucks
>>153925094Velvette is 5’8
>>153924759Charlie seems like one of those nice liberal girls who sometimes says some out of pocket stuff with slightly racist implications which I find pretty attractive
>>153930393Just dawned to me how terrifying the Goetia would be to a human from their sheer heights
>>153926071Leaks are thinly disguised marketing Hazbin has so many fans they don't need to resort to it
>>153924759>Charlie is 6 feet and 6 inches tall btw.Fucking awful, she should be 66'6 to properly refrence the number of the beast.
>>153924759Jokes on you I'm into that shit
>>153932115Verbalase?
>>153932032She is probably very racist towards imps and hellhounds.
>>153932094She could be 6 feet 6 inches and 6 millimeters tall.
>>153932257Still amazes me how this is an actual thing.
>>153932383Might be exaggerated idk.
>>153932273Do you think she lets some sly remarks slip out once every while?>you're so well behaved for a hellhound!>you're so well spoken for someone from the less financially privileged regions of the south!
>>153924759Is that big enough to shit a sleeve of Ritz crackers without breaking any? Help me with scale.
>>153932273>>153932524>very polite, if mildly condescending whenever she talks with the various species that populate Hell>is outright hateful of all the Belphegor sheep demons because fuck those stupid lazy belphiggers
>>153932524It's possible but I also imagine her having some unconscious racism. Like constantly checking her pockets near hellhounds and expecting imps to be beggars before they even open their mouth.
>>153932600>>153932524Insane how accurate this is
>>153932377mixing measurement systems is cheatingif 66'6 is too extreme, she can just be 666 cm
I know it would probably never happen because Viv is a coward but Charlie being shown be be racist towards hellborn would be an interesting plot point. Having her sinner friends point out her prejudice and forcing her to look towards all of hell and not just the Pride Ring when it comes to reforms.
I like to imagine the reason you never see Charlie ask about freeing Angel Dust from Val’s contract is she’s actually very pro-slavery and sees soul deals as a valuable part of Hell’s unique culture. >Charlie explaining to Husk and Angel that she could never interfere with their deals because it was their choice to sell their souls, if they’re unhappy with the deal it’s their fault for selling it in the first place
>ohhh you silly thing, of course everybody can say the word "Mutt" to describe hellhounds its just a word silly!
More Racist Charlie, please.
>Oh my gosh, you hellhounds are just so good at the rough stuff! >Like, I could never get my hands that dirty without feeling icky. >You're all just naturally... feral like that, huh? It's adorable
>>153931122Viv hates herself? Unsurprising
>I mean, don't get me wrong, I love how loyal you guys are! >It's like... you barely even need redemption because you're already such good boys and girls at heart. Sit! >huh? excuse me?>...Just kidding!
>Oooh that's amazing! I bet the couple that adopted you from the pound are super proud of you!
>I just love how resourceful you little guys are! >I mean, most imps have to hustle so hard just to get by. >It must be exhausting being at the bottom of the food chain all the time, but you make it look *almost* fun!>Really makes me aware of the privilege I grew up with huh....
>>153933029Isn't her drawn avatar not fat at all? As far as I remember its really skinny.
>>153933107She’s started to draw herself looking chubbier in her Helluvaboss background character design
Charlie's so based.
>>153933105>You imps have such large families!>It must be really difficult to find a place to fit all of you.>Awe! You sleep in the same room as all 37 of your brothers in sisters? That's so cute! But how do you like... You know change clothes? YOU DO WHAT!?
>>153933131So she finally accepted the truth
>>153932600She's already unconsciously elitist. Charlie doesn't really understand what it's like to be an ordinary sinner in Hell because she grew up rich and privileged and sheltered, and she's protected from the worst of it by her status and power as the Princess of Hell. Everyone might mock her for her dreams, but no one in Hell would be stupid enough to piss Lucifer off by doing serious harm to his daughter (at least, before it was revealed that he can't actually hurt sinners). Sure, Charlie means well, and she does genuinely care for sinners, but she can't really put herself in their shoes. She's never been subject to the whims of the Overlords or even just a bigger and stronger regular sinner who doesn't like the look of her face/is having a bad day and decided to take it out on the next asshole they see/is just violent and batshit crazy. So she's basically the privileged, well-intentioned but clueless rich girl who has never set foot outside of her bubble of wealth and has no idea what it's like to be an average Joe in the real world, and all of her attempts to help just look condescending.
>>153934108vivziepop's even liked tweets calling her a naive nepo-baby.
>>153932780Nah, I think it'll probably be an important part of Season 3, and the Hotel gang's plan to get Angel away from Valentino. They know that it's possible to loophole your way out of a Faustian bargain, and Charlie very clearly does not like the way Valentino treats Angel, so why exactly would she be on board with slavery?
>>153930393look at these assholesjust look at how dumb they all look
>>153934108No wonder she gets with a bad girl to rebel against daddy
>>153934147Right! The sinners affiliated with the Hotel enjoy a measure of protection thanks to their association with Charlie, or in Alastor's case, because of his status as the strongest Overlord, but if you want to see what it's like for the rest of the sinners, pay attention to the nameless background characters, and how they're treated. Pay attention to all those funny little bits of text you can only read properly if you pause at the right time. Pay attention to those who don't have the benefit of protagonist-grade plot armor.
>>153934319Honestly the fact that's she's with an angel isn't good for her look from a class perspective suggesting she's too good for the common folk. Funny enough Lucifer is probably very happy she's in a relationship with an angel an not a filthy sinner.
>>153934462Yeah, it's already been pointed out.
We need more sinner and hellborn interactionsSomeone could easily watch all of hazbin and not even realize that they are two different things
The pride merch drop they teased is Helluva only. We aren't getting canon sexualities for Heaven yet.
>>153934544There's a large number that straight up didn't know those two were different things. You don't get any knowledge on hellborn unless you watch helluva.
>haha, silly imps. They always think they can accomplish everything by just stabbing eachother!>... what?
>>153934647>Charlie Morningstar is NOT racist in the slightest!>...........although I do remember her once referring to a broken beer bottle as a impgger knife>now that I think of it, maybe she is pretty racist
>>153934544Didn't Vivzie say at some point that the fucking cannibals were hellborn?
>>153934570Of course we already haveIf they were anything other than straight, they'd be in hell
>>153934736Wouldn't that contradict a lot of stuff? We see Vaggie get punished for not killing that cannibal "child" but if cannibals are hellborn they should be exempt from exterminations.
>>153934640There's this brief one second scene when Charlie is speed running redemption strategies and she has Angel Dust cradle three baby imps at the same timeand I remember more than a few people reacted to it with>wtf why are there babies in hell?
>>153934741>the creator of everything that exists, has ever existed or will ever exist cares about what you do with your pee pee place to a homicidal degree because.......BECAUSE HE JUST DOES, OKAY?!Any God that demands fealty in exchange for it's love is worthy of neither
>>153934804Funnily enough, the reason for Vivzie saying that was to patch up another contradiction, which is that children don't go to Hell so she said that was a hellborn, which also doesn't make any fucking sense. That whole scene was a mess anyway, it contains that plot hole plus the fact that Vaggie should know angelic weaponry can hurt angels.
>>153934736It would be neat if it turned out they were hellborn created by Rosie because she's secretly some sort of arch demon on par with Satan and friendsBut like that other anon said it would also make that scene with Vaggie and the cannibal child more retarded than it already is
>>153934865Children not going to hell isn't a bad idea. It's avoids certain moral conundrums and it is widely accepted by most religions that kids that die don't go there by default. She could have explained that said cannibal was not a child and simply just looked like one ( sinner then to have a large variety of looks). Making the guy Vaggie spared by a child eating cannibal would be pretty shocking.
>>153934988yeah, we already have niffty and baxter as super short yet adult sinners, doesn't seem too out there to suggest the sinner she spared was also a short-ass that she took pity on.
>>153934875>>153935018I think a better choice for said scene would have been to replace the cannibal "child" with a sinner couple. Have one of them stand up in front of the other to defend their partner and have Vaggie spare them. Then Lute shows up to clip her wings. It would work better because it could be later tied in with her relationship with Charlie and that one exorcist in her flashback.
Tell me about Lute. Why does she wear the mask? Is she Eve?
>>153935842Lute is likely based on the bloody woman Adam rejected in the Jew myths
>>153934815>Mad that Jesus wanted the plug to be in socket instead of a plug.This is you.
>>153935867Makes no fucking sense. If vivziepop adapted that figure she would be a yas queen in hell who learned she doesn't need the approval of adam a long time ago. Plus the bloodied woman was rejected for being misshapen and hideous. Lute is conventionally pretty.
>>153935956>Plus the bloodied woman was rejected for being misshapen and hideous. Lute is conventionally pretty.Lute looks pretty now. Doesn’t mean that’s what she looked like back then.
>>153935842No she is Steve
>>153935907Jesus never said a single word about homos.
>>153935976That woman was rejected because Adam saw her being made and saw her organs and blood before God put her skin on her and that frightened Adam. Symbolically that's quite different from Lute who is usually splattered with other people's blood.
>>153936081especially adam's blood. reminder that for the last month or so, everyone in heaven has seen lute walking around still splattered with adam's blood and not a single person has wondered if she's okay besides the speaker of god, and she didn't even get to ask. not emily, not sera, not even the other exorcists.
What’s the best ship and why is it this?
>>153936081It's actually not that different. Recall that they apparently don't fuck, and how put off he was with her. Viv even commented that she was probably a little too much for him. That lines up with the midrash Eve figure. Not that I think Lute is based on that tradition, as I don't think Viv does her research like that. Just a funny coincidence.
>>153936273My personal favorite ship is the grand old lady
>>153935842I fully believe she's the Genesis Eve. Jessica requoted that theory specifically. There's a lot of thematic overlap with Eve in general, that suspiciously align with the old leaks of Eve. They're just doing that with Lute. I think she's just Eve, like that's the character. Much like Adam, who wasn't even a character until this show specifically in Viv's work. Pretty sure that's the case with Lute
>>153936296>and how put off he was with herThis is exaggerated. He is weirded out by her one time when she says something particularly fucking weird. In the blu ray commentary Viv considers this a very cute scene.We don't know why they didn't fuck. Given that Adam is an expert at no-strings-attached sex then if they did fuck that wouldn't even indicate he had a romantic interest in her. I would imagine Sera imposed a blanket ban on him having sexual contact with all exorcists by threat of punishment because we never see him get flirty with any of them. You would think we'd see him with an exorcist hanging off each arm but we don't.
>>153936380That's great speculation. I'm just going off by what Viv said and what we have seen thus far. Yes, the scene was cute because she was giving him a look of wanting his validation. I'm not sure how that changes him being put off with her. And again, she has said that she's a little too much for him. I'm not saying he's 100% disgusted. Just pointing out the funny coincidences.
>>153936406One other point, Lute is very casually physical, not sexual, but still very touchy feely with Adam. We see her grab his robe and in You Didn't Know we even see her climb up his back and hang over his shoulder. He isn't bothered by her doing these things at all. If he found her all that offputting he wouldn't allow this or at least show some discomfort.
>>153928995Unfathomably based and correct post
>>153936470Guy, chill. It's not that big of a deal. That doesn't change like he was put off with her that one time.
>>153924759>>153924816Vivzie is still such a fucking deviantart/tumblr kid at heart. Like even if she's now show runner she still makes all of her characters 7ft tall for almost non reason. That's the type of shit you see a teen doing with their Sonic/TADC OC's.>And she's 7ft tall and she can transform and be like super duper strong and she's the princess of hell and she can't be killed and she like really pretty and actually really smart and
>>153936304>nothing from the Golden Age of SailGetta load of this fag, guys
Guitarspear will be canon and it's the best ship.
>>153936480I said that in my post here too >>153936380 lol it's no biggie
>>153936406i can't specifically remember when but i'm pretty sure sam haft said that adam isn't cruel like lute is in this interview somewhere, which i thought was an interesting choice of words. he also drops within temptation as an inspo band!www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1bZZzUMmlI
>>153935842Her audition song is Salute by Little Mix which is fucking weird and ooc but whatever. Jessica Vosk keeps insinuating that she's hiding shit. Her file is classified. I'm betting she's Eve. Especially if the old leaks of the whole Rosy as Lilith is Eve theory are true, then I could see them changing it because it's a retarded ass plotline to begin with.
>>153928995>regular humanAdam and Eve were twelve feet tall ubermenchen when they left the Garden. They were quite literally made by God's own hands, they were about as close to divine beings as anyone could possibly be. It was Original Sin that made thier kids and every subsequent generations become progressively shittier versions of themselves, until we get to us today.
>>153936538He said that Adam is scary in his own way, but ultimately as a villain he is borish and ignorant. Lute Is bloodthirsty in a way that we have not seen yet with other villains.
>>153936504Geobukseon mogs.
>>153936556That is not biblical Canon. Those come from other texts and traditions, I think in the Book of Enoch. But nowhere is it biblically accurate that they were these Giants. Also, that's one way as to how interpret the the sin/fruit thing.. That's actually very in line with Jehovah's Witness doctrine, which is relatively newer compared to other interpretations of the Bible. But Viv actually takes her inspiration from Catholicism and Mormonism. I figure that's why Adam is the head of the army. In Mormonism, Adam is actually also Michael. I think he is the Michael stand in for Hazbin.
>>153936556>Human history is actually the very same history of the Krorks from 40k.Huh...
>>153926392NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!!!
>>153936560** Boorish
>>153936568Gotta go with a nice Type IX… preferably with Alastor dicking Angel down in the conning tower
If Lute is Eve did she sleep with Lucifer?
>>153936680No offense, but are people stupid enough to actually believe the bullshit that was coming out of Lucifer's mouth? And even if we're going strictly by that, he said he **offered**
>>153936680>>153936703Pretty sure he was referring to Lilith during that exchange
>>153936731He mentioned both women. "Your first wife (Lilith) didn't seem to hate what I had to offer. Or the second (Eve)"
I have no hope for this show. We're going to get three more seasons but... What, each one is going to be eight episodes? So... 24 episodes left? That in of itself is barely a season in any other show. We're fucked
>>153936828I don’t think the episode count is the problemIt’s how they pace themselves with it that is Other creators can do a lot with just 8
>>153936931Not Viv.
>>153936033He did in Genesis when he told Abraham he was going to destroy Sodom for being too gay
>>153936931And like... The amount of time per episode. These are pretty short. The only reason they range a little bit longer at times is purely because of the songs. I don't know how she's going to cram everything. But whatever. Apparently this is a season that the entire show approved by Amazon? So it better be dazzling I guess
>>153936951I don't know why people say that homosexuality is not condemned in the Bible? I'm pretty sure there is a quote somewhere that says something like ' man shall not lay with man' or some shit
>>153936951Sodom would have been spared if they had just been gay in a wholesome way instead of a rapey problematic way
Gameoverse is more of a show than Hazbin Hotel at season 1.
>>153937000No they wouldn't have.
>>153936973Leviticus 18:22, which is from the Old Testament. You'll note Jesus' whole schtick was basically looking at the Torah and going, ".....yeah, no. Here's a better way." Might be why he himself never uttered a word about the topic, even in the apocrapha books
>>153937100Jesus demonstrates the purpose of man with his own body. Which to $@@& a woman.
>Adam and his gals coming down for Extermination Day>suddenly they hear cheering>they see some imps have set up bleachers on a roof and are cheering the angels on>have signs declaring for Chadam himself>turns out extermination day is like the Super Bowl for hellborn >they get to see the smug immortal Sinners they hate get slaughtered by heavenWould be neat seeing hellborn mad at Charlie for ruining their favorite event.
>>153937211>be an imp running your family business in the pride ring>you're the seventh generation and you're about ready to retire and pass it down to your kid>sinner comes in and punches an employee for no reason>throw their ass out and ban them>sinner comes back with a bunch of sinner friends and burns it to the ground>despair.jpg>suddenly the bells toll>a single exorcist destroys all but that sinner who hides in the rubble next to you pleading for help>'hey lady, you missed one'
I had a friend who used to be in the patreon server thing and one of the things that concerns me is that they said... Like what 2-3 years ago that Lilith is a fallen angel. Lucifer created the sins... Oh, and there's no children in hell. The cannibal that Vaggie spared was in fact a midget apparently
>>153937170Why does she have such massive childbaring fish hips?
>>153938918She isn't being very Koi about flaunting it either.
>>153924759Does this image accurately reflect Charlie's listed height next to Vaggi?
>>153937002pfftokay sweaty
>>1539392922010s called, they want their slang back.
>>153925288That's why I draw her with plantigrade feet, Hitler.
>>153939901yeah well, Viv called and said she wants her SASS backBITCH
>>153940033Freshly opened bag of marshmallows.
>>153940120Freshly roasted over brimstone marshmallows
>>153939139Charlie beong a 6ft 6 is just a little factoid people like to throw around but it's never reflected in the show. If she's that tall then that means almost every character around her is like 7ft 2 easy. Probably one of things she likes to say wjen lore dumping but apparently she never mentioned it to her animation or storyboard team
>>153940410What's the source to the supposed measurement? As far as I'm aware of Viv only ever confirmed Lucifer I think? Maybe Al? But never Charlie. When and where was this ever said?
how will Alastor make his smug face more enjoyable next season?
>>153940120>>153940171Letting out her full demon form smells like burning egg farts. When she's in her toned down, cutie-patootie shape, it's that powdered sugar and cornstarch scent.
>>153940835Letting out her full demon form smells like burning egg farts. When she's in her toned down, cutie-patootie shape, it's that powdered sugar and cornstarch scent.and?
>>153941076That's what Charlie smells like in my head.
I figure her full demon form smells like a fiesta Mexican omelet. Eggy but still desirable. Otherwise vaggie wouldnt let her fuck her in full demon form. Giant demon cock or no cock
>>153936744People assumed he meant the apple when it comes to Eve. Was it ever confirmed if Lilith ate the apple?
>>153937170Because for some reason as a fish she actually gets to have hips and ass unlike her show design were she's flat as a board.
>>153937768Bruh what is this? Is this the opposite of " if you girl leaves you for another you should have her mother"?
>>153938653>Lilith is a fallen Angel Wtf. Her whole thing was that she was once human and possibly became a demon. Who genuinely writes these?
Charlie devours Imp Males
>>153942251Pretty sure that's a opossum.
>>153942111I don't fully believe that he's just pulling Adam's leg. I don't think they slept together, I just don't see that right now? However.... The fact that people think that he was being completely honest is baffling. But the people who thought he was talking about the Apple even more stupid. I'm sorry. How the fuck do people think he was talking about the Apple when he was clearly talking about sex? When he mentions Lilith, he does the eating out gesture. When he mentions Eve, he does the air hump gesture. That's why Adam got fucking upset. I can't stand people's retardation sometimes.
>>153942180This is secondhand information. Like I said, my friend was in the patreon server. This is something that was confirmed. Viv said this in one of those... calls. Not the Q&As, but I guess they do group calls where she answers questions? Or they used to? If I recall correctly, someone on Tumblr would leak that specific information. I don't remember the username though. But yeah she said this around 2 to 3 years ago. And even longer time ago, like around the pilot era stuff, she implied that The Exorcists were being controlled by other forces/not heaven aka Roo. I have no idea how that fits though, or if it's something that was scrapped, because obviously she wouldn't give more context, I assume, since it seems like a major plot/spoiler territory.
>>153942484Listen you gotta give people some leeway they are working with literal crumbs of information. There's so much shit that's vague and so far most flashbacks have been about sinners when they were alive. Viv is terrible when it comes to conveying information in her own show and having to dig through drawing streams, voice actor's tweets and out of context statements on the internet is not a good sign.
>>153942624I don't disagree. For example, when Satan said he was ruling Hell before Lucifer came along (which we know is bullshit) Bee and Oz's facial expressions didn't convey that properly, in my opinion. I can see why people got confused with that.This? Lucifer is literally making sexual gestures. An elementary school kid can understand the joke. He was clearly NOT talking about the apple. Whether he's lying, embellishing, telling the truth, or just trying to piss Adam off is up for debate (to me, he was just trying to get a rise out of Adam.) The fact that the joke is sexual really is not though.
>>153942111I don't think Adam or Lilith needed the apple. Lilith was able to leave of her own accord. Clearly, the first two humans were made fully capable and independent. Eve, I imagine being Lilith's replacement, I assume was not made with that same luxury. If you look closely at the scene, Lilith looks hesitant to step toward Eve and the tree too, so I doubt she would have eaten the ominous looking thing anyway.
>>153942790It's get even more confusing because I remember Viv stating somewhere that Adam actually ate the apple. So is Lilith the only one that didn't consume it?
>>153937170Would the fish
>>153942812No, Viv actually never said this.
>>153942820I could be misremembering. No denying it .
>>153942970No I mean, this isn't the first time someone has said that. Whenever I ask for a source, people refer to this one deleted tweet/a reddit post linking that tweet, but if you look, the OP confirms they were talking about this specific interview. This is what people misremember. But Viv has never actually said Adam ate the apple. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i4EeZgRT8M&t=38s
>>153925288If you think about it she would look pretty scary in real life. Hooves, having a dog face, pale white ass skin with pikachu cheeks. It's downplayed by the art style.
>>153943068People would still fuck her. No amount of looking scary would stop them.
>>153943068Charlie is essentially a thing pretending to be human for the comfort of those around her.
>>153943157She's in hell with filled with sinners and hellborn. The vast majority look inhuman, fucked up or weird.
>>153940244I miss Pilot Charlie.She barely even feels like a character in the show proper
>>153943386Pilot Charlie isn't really that different than series Charlie, to be honest.
>>153943395Pilot Charlie at least felt like she had more of a backbone.Her trying to block out the greenscreen of Angel and Cherri's fight with Pentious was legitimately funny.
What a lovely throat.
>>153943426I don't discount that some of the pilot elements are endearing, but it really isn't so vastly different like everyone makes it out to be. People just view as a blank slate to impose their own delusions/headcanons onto it.
>>153943433How freaky does the sex get with the limbs?
>>153943386pilot Charlie looks so soft and bouncy...
>>153943528Like if you hugged her you'd hear a plush squeak sound.
I headcanon Charlie having a massive butt and sitting on my face.Yes, I'm cucking Vaggie out of a dyke relationship, lmao.
>>153943462>>153943426>>153943395>>153943386>>153943618She has a bigger butt in the pilot compared to the Amazon show.
>>153943667Proof?
>>153943687New cake
>>153943687>>153943811Old Cake
>>153943811>>153943816>Pic related
>>153942484I fear the Abel theories of him being Lucifer’s bastard son. That would be deeply disturbing to a level I never imagined.
>>153943871It'd be a right mess, but entertaining. But I don't think so. He looks too much like Adam.
>>153943871Viv is not going to do that. She's just won't because it would make Lucifer look bad.
>>153943906Because Lucifer already doesn't look bad? Lucifer may be her favorite, but Charlie is her self-insert. She's already gone to white knight for her. She's going to make everyone else look bad and Charlie always right,
>>153931122>Viv hates fat peopleWTF I love Viv now!?
>>153943938He looks bad to an extent but I'm certain the vibe she's going for is incompetent fool who does something out of good intention but fucks up astronomically because he's to prideful to reconsider if his idea is actually shit. She is avoiding making him actively malicious. If she changes her mind his character is gonna become bipolar to a ridiculous degree.
>>153943999You're right. Though, I wouldn't mind him being malicious. Or trying to be. But yeah no, I don't believe he's Abel's father or anything like that's. It's funnier/tragic of Abel truly is Adam's son and he just treats him like *that*.
What if Abel is Adam's rape child, on account of those mouths where Lilith raped Adam. In some he straight up has an affair with her, seeking her out after the death of Cain
>>153944032*Myths
jesus she's five inches taller then me.
>>153944016It's kinda hard to deduce Adam's actual relationship with Abel because most of the info we get is from the insane schizophrenic Lute and her literal delusion of Adam. Abel having the confidence of a wet fart doesn't help since Adam could have just been the type of closed off dad that never actually talks about his feelings to his kids and doesn't believe in showing affection to his sons to make them strong men.
>>153944032Timeline doesn't add up plus Viv is not going to make her feminist icon " YAS QUEEN SLAY" Lilith into a rapist ( even if there's a lot myths about that).
>>153944067This is true, however, Abel does not refute or challenge everyone else's perception of what the relationship was like. She straight up says that Adam did not like him, and he fully agrees. Viv also confirmed that he simply was not among Adam's favorite children. In addition to that, the Adam hallucination, however schizophrenic it may be, (and frankly I don't even think it's her actual hallucination, but that's a separate topic) is actually not far off from the real thing. Viv, and Sam I believe, did confirm that the hallucination is still very much him, so it's generally accurate.
>>153944086Yeah, yeah you're absolutely right, actually. Though I do know there's a portion of Adam glazers that apparently have deduced that the way he acts lines up with a rape victim, and I guess they're banking on that. Totally see Viv. Trying to justify that somehow, make it more in line with Lilith having pressured him/ coerced him, and trying to paint it as if it's somehow consensual. But you're right, that's all probably a reach...
>>153944113Adam having a lot of common traits with a sexual abuse victim while interesting is probably unintentional. When it comes to sexual abuse Viv is going play it safe and show male on male ( Angel and Valentino) because male on female and female on female can cause a big outrage. You also have to remember female on male sexual abuse is not gonna be taken seriously or just ignored. Imagine if she actually did that and the fan base would defend Lilith suggesting Adam enjoined it. You'd really get to see the hypocrisy.
>oh no my hot tall femdom wife wants to fuck me oh no please save meGay.
>>153944174If she drugs him up or pretends to be Eve I could see him not being a fan.
>>153944161But you know this cancerous fandom would. Look at the comment calling him gay already lmao
idk if it counts for anything but Viv liked these on bsky... 1/2
>>1539442022/2
>>153944202>>153944205It's Viv we don't know 100% know what she's going to do before she get sidetracked.
>>153944229Contrary to what most believe/say, Viv is a shit liar and she gives herself away in interviews and with her likes. Not that her likes are 100% to the letter canon, but it gives a pretty good idea where her head is at.
>>153936828>>153936931I think after the success of the first season, they gave Vivzie more time to play with for the second season (the last episode was a good bit longer than the usual twenty two minutes), and with that season also being a big success, I can see them giving at the very least even more time for each episode, if not more episodes in general.
>>153944240I guess will wait and see.
>>153942484It's obviously a double entendre, do you have autism? He gave her the apple, but he's also implying he fucked her to piss Adam off. It's literally the same caliber of "I fucked your mom" jokes, except more personal.
Adam and Lilith should have sex and should both learn that it's okay to be submissive sometimes.
>>153944639What do you think she was doing in Heaven?
>>153944620... Yes, that's what I'm saying? I'm not kidding you that some people genuinely believe that, that's not what he was doing. That he was strictly speaking about the fruit.
>>153944620Dude, he was talking about fucking. We know that, because he didn't offer Lilith the fruit. Why the fuck would he start off talking about fucking Lilith, only to then shift to talking about giving the apple to Eve? He was talking specifically about fucking both of them to get under Adam's skin.
>>153944713>>153944730Yes, but the joke works because he also did actually literally give something to Eve, which was the Apple. That's how jokes work. That's how a double entendre works. Both actions that he did do (taking Lilith away from Adam and giving Eve the Apple) fucked over Adam in some way, and he's just adding on an extra layer of banter.
>>153943068Look man if Im in hell a pale satyr is so low on the list of terror it doesnt even register.
>>153944730>>153944752I'm once again wondering why Adam didn't mention Lilith. He knows for a fact she's in heaven and hasn't had contact with hell.
>>153944775Complete and utter headcanon, but I like to believe it shows kind of a chivalrous side to him, and that he was able to make up with Lilith. Despite being at arguably at his lowest point in that moment, he'd gain such massive respect for Lilith (and I'd also like to believe it went both ways) that even then he wouldn't break her trust by bringing her up.
>>153944789Weirdly enough because the show hasn't shown us any onscreen interaction between Adam and either of his ex-wifes its sorta plausible. He never talks badly about them and even gets mad in Eve's case. Him actually respecting them would be an interesting turn of events.
Lute was made for first humans.
>>153946138About that. Is there a distinction between pre-flood (the flood is mentioned in gravity so I presume it happened) and modern day humans. Like did Adam and his kids live longer than the average human? He and Lilith seem to be pretty big in height department.
>>153943528Pilot Charlie is soft and huggable like a plushie, show Charlie is all bony looking and hugs would be uncomfortable
>>153946432
>>153946661Built for interspecies Hellhound Hate Fucking with lots of slurs
>>153947144Viv changing Vaggie from a sinner to an exorcist angel is the funniest thing in retrospect. Charlie instinctively choose not to date a member of the lower class. Plus much like her father she like em young ( Exterminations only being a thing for 7 years).
>>153936498>at heartIt is on full display, I don't know that she'd even deny it
>>153947709Just because the Exterminations have been going on for seven years does not mean the soldiers were created seven years ago
>>153944789Definitely wishful thinking. I'd say he didn't know. He's painted as this ignorant guy, and it's implied that he's not told many things. Given how Sera and Lute know about Lilith, I would not be surprised if Lilith made the deal with Sera and they just kept Adam in the dark about it. This guy couldn't keep the exterminations a secret to save his life. You're telling me he didn't talk about Lilith not once? You think you'd be so braggadocious about having made a deal with his former wife. I don't buy it. Him being chivalrous is a laughable thought
>>153947869It's implied that Lilith's deal was with Adam though and because he's dead, it's nullified.
>>153947998It can be taken that way. Sure. I'm not denying that. But notice how when she was asked if Abel inherited the deal, Viv never actually answers the question and goes on a tangent. I still get the impression the deal was not with him. I'm not saying I'm right, but regardless, I'm looking forward to the explanation and what the deal was exactly, that it made Adam, if the deal was with him, not utter a peep.
>>153948027Lute's interaction with Lilith makes no fucking sense if the deal wasn't with Adam then. Why would Abel inherit it?
>>153948045?? Who said Abel inherited the deal? That's my point. When Viv was asked this specific question she didn't answer and went on to talk how deals were made. My genuine kiss is that the deal was with Sera desu
>>153948074*GuessMakes no sense to me otherwise why he didn't mention it or allude to it once. Sam called him idiotic and ignorant twice. I would not be surprised if Adam was in the same position as Lucifer, where he's just clueless about everything that's going on.
>>153948045To be honest, it could also be that Adam dying is what broke the deal. Like, it had been one of the conditions set for the deal, not necessarily that the deal was made with him specifically. But that's just guessing and spitballing. Like I said, I'm looking forward to finding out what the deal was exactly and how/why Adam kept his mouth shut about it. It seems out of character for him
>>153947829I know but it's funnier to imagine Charlie likes em young. Perfect slander.
