Is anyone even watching this Edition
>>153936417How was Sony able to make this show if Disney owns TV rights to Spider-Man? Is there a loophole that it’s technically a different character?
>>153936417>Is anyone even watching this no the black and white option doesn't show up on Amazon on my tv so I won't bother
>>153936417Black & White or Colored /co/?
>>153936417I saw 3 episodes last night. It's my jam, but fuck it's hard to recommend to people >It's super cheesyWhich I gove a pass because the noir theme. Kind of like who frammed Roger Rabbit >Bad cgiWhich the black and white hides well>Nicholas Cage's actingFuck man. It's part of the fun to see him, and wonder what kind of acting you're going to get. On positive the cinematography is really good for black and whiteMy only negative thing is when they want to tackle race. It's like come the fuck on your Dinaey+ don't go thinking your all that.
>>153936558>My only negative thing is when they want to tackle race. It's like come the fuck on your Dinaey+ don't go thinking your all that.everything else sounds good, how often and prevelant is that? good way of doing it or just ham fisted and nonsensical?
>>153937917It’s mentioned here and there because of the setting and the main black guy is referred to as a negro at one point but don’t expect hard Rs or rampant racism, this is a Spider-Man show after all.
>>153938121ah that doesn't sound too bad then. i'll check it out this weekend thanks anon.
>>153936417I can see clear as the day Sony had to make it apart enough from Spidey to not rustle Disney's jimmies.Still Nic Cage in a BW Noir is kino from the oven.
>>153936558>My only negative thing is when they want to tackle raceNot a negative if you're not overly sensitive to that.
>>153936417didnt know this was even happeningso thanks for the newsvery psyched to check it out, i loved shimmer lake
>>153936417Just did. It's great
>>153936558Does his performance match up to THE BEES?
It was genuinely very good, I'm such a hater of all the shows and moves in the past several years but this one surprised meSeason 1 of btas but spider vibes
>>153936483They put so much deliberate effort into making the colors so saturated and vibrant you're really missing out by watching it black and whiteColored first, black on second watch
>>153936436That's why they call him Ben Reilly
>>153940876The colored version gives me Dick Tracy vibes
>>153937917>how often and prevelant is that?I'm on episode 6 and so far the biggest one is Thombstone going "I'm done risking my life for the white man". Also everyone at the Bugle gives Robbie the stinkeye but I'm not sure if that's a race think or because he was fired on really bad terms.
>>153936558>tackle raceI’m just glad that they even kept to the time period, I expected them to handwave into existence a progressive race-blind 1930s New York
Fucking love it.
>>153941449>I expected them to handwave into existence a progressive race-blind 1930s New YorkThe lastest Batman cartoon did that.
>>153941399That's a normal thing blacks would say, it's not really playing a gay race communist for a modern audience angle Also important to remember even though this is a period piece this is happening in New York not the deep south, My Grandpa was a kid during this time period he said that they would play with the black kids all the same it wasn't really a big dealBlacks and whites got along with each other on an individual basis just fine
>>153936417I'm starting to hate live action shows. It's all talking and no action.
>>153936436He's not spider-man, he's The SpiderAnd he IS the same guy from the spiderverse movieBen Reily is an alias he took on, they never actually say his real name but obviously its Peter ParkerSo they say it without saying it
Fuck man, this is one of those shows I was sad it ended because I can't watch it for the first time againBut at least they saw fit to make two versions
>>153942138 #That confused me because they say he changed his name after the war but during the flasback to the prisoner camp they still call him Reilly
>>153942336That’s either a goof, or Ben is acting as an unreliable narrator to keep his old name hidden from Cat.
>>153942336I forget was that a straight or was that him recounting the story to someone else?If it was a memory that seems like an error on their part, but if it was him telling the story then he used his fake name while telling it so it was reflected in the scene
Tom Holland's Peter would’ve kissed her ass and wished good luck to Flint and Cat.
>>153942517It always hurtsI know it's all part of the character he never gets the girl, but every time I'm still hopeful
Just finished and loved it, I expected Megawatt and Sandman to just be your typical henchmen with not much going on for them and was pleasently surprised.
Maybe the reason they can't say "Peter Parker" if because they broke some of the rules they have for the character, particularly smoking and drinking
>>153936417>"Muh racism bad" narrative>/co/ fags eat it up like the faggots they areYou all literally deserve to eat shit.
>>153936417Wait, is it already out?
>>153943014>Black suit Spider-Man can sell illegal drugs
>>153943014It really broke almost all the Peter Parker rules, his whole origin is wrong
>>153940876You got it on backwards.Watch as noir then do colored to pick up on extra details you would have missed.
>>153943262Don't be such a botslop chud
>>153942138>And he IS the same guy from the spiderverse movieHe really isn't. Watch his origin in the first Spider-Verse movie again, he's bitten by a spider. In Spider-Noir he's bitten by a mutated patient who got injected with genetic spider material for a an experiment
>instead of just editing >they shot the whole show again in color to get more moneyHOLY FUCKING BASEDCAGE
>>153936436Let me elaborateSony owns the Spider-Man LIVE ACTION television rights, they always have even before the MCU deal. What Disney owns (in terms of television) is the right to make Spider-Man cartoons with episodes under 45 minutes e.g. Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.And yes Sony can make Spider-Man cartoons if they stretch the episodes to over 45 minutes Invincible-style because they're considered animated features after thar mark like the Spider-Verse movies. It's a fun loophole that would allow them to make more seasons of Spectacular Spider-Man if they wanted.The whole Ben Reilly-The Spider thing, even if Sony calls that a creative decision, is because Marvel forbids the portrayal of Peter Parker/Spider-Man as a guy who smokes, drinks or curses. And I shit you not, this was all confirmed by that one big Sony e-mail leak years ago.
>>153942879Megawatt's theatrics were kino
>>153941399>RobbieReyes?
>>153941765the timm batman cartoons were always a mashup of time periods
>>153945924The producers have said that Caped Crusader is set in the 40s and that this specific period setting is what sets it apart from the mash-up style of BTAS.
>>153936417Theres a Spider Noir show? How come Ive never heard of it?
>>153946124For some reason, Amazon is fumbling the marketing
>>153944532His death was pretty kino as well, did not expect that at all.
>>153944313Really, well knowing that I am tempted. I always want to pop the show on in the car and just listen to it on Bluetooth, like an actual radio show.
>>153946156Its on Amazon? I was on prime video last night and didnt see it anywhere.
>>153944532I'm having a little but of trouble are the villains OC's or spider man villains. I'm guessing the black guy is the lizard, and pic related is Electro. They have sandman but the fire guy seems like an OC.
>>153946197It's not part of the MCU.It's not even on Disney+.
>>153943014Black suit Spider-man is allowed to have sex with someone younger than 16
>>153943748>>153946313>He cannot swear though.
Opinions on Noir's friends? >Janet>Robbie>FrankieI thought it was cute that Janet was trying to teach Frankie how to read and write, as it shows they aren't just using that poor kid, they actually care about him. Getting Robbie Robertson back in Spider-Man media is great. It's funny that he's way younger than Spidey here.
>>153946226Yes, it's on Prime. They dropped all 8 episodes at once
>>153946255All the villains are spider man villains>Tombstone>Sandman>Megawatt>Silvermane
>>153946397>FrankieI love the little scamp.but yeah nice to see them actually try to teach him. As I mentioned before it's a little over acting, but at least fits the vibe of the show >RobbieHe's an interesting character, I'll say that. He tends to pull the race card but only to get what he wants, I liked how the other guy clock that and told him "don't call me brother" it does suck that they twisted his report. It's nice to see a reporter character in a Spider-Man show.>JanetI didn't think I like her as much as I did. At first I did feel bad for her and Reily not having any money. I like how she's willing to pull out a gun when she needs to, the poler was also a nice scene to interrogate without coming on too strong.
>>153936417One of the small things that puts a little small smile on my face when I see actors from a show I like pop up in other shows. Scott MacArthur who I seen from the Mick is one of Silverman'es goons.
>>153936417Buy an ad
>>153938392>Not a negative if you're not overly sensitive to that.
At first I was disappointed they didn't go with a leather mask, but then I realized Nic Cage and the stand-in actors would have had a hard time breathing in that thing.
>>153946845>show set in 1930s america casually makes reference to racism existingYeah, if you sperg out about something like that you're an autistic retard.
>>153948057You know they don't have to make it out of actual leather, right? Costumers have a ton of options for materials when it comes to stuff like that, just look at the Deadpool mask as a good example that worked fine.
>>153948057Also it doesn't look that good. At least from cosplays I've seen.
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>>153948253Talking about leather reminds me of 2000 X-Men movie. I think the actor he played cyclops twisted his ankle or some thpe of leg injury trying to jump over a ledge. For reason the night time scene at the statue of liberty had to be shot first. They had to move around in the brand new leather costume, this meant the leather wasn't broken in yet. Which made jumping over a small cement ledge very hard, and thus cuased the accident for Cyclops actor.
>>153948253But he isn't "Spider-noir" he's "The Spider"
>>153948105Yeah, the wool mask also grew on me as the series went on. It looks homemade, but unlike other DIY suits, it doesn't look like shit. It feels like a deliberate attempt to pull audiences away from the usual synthetic capeshit live action costumes.>>153948078Deadpool's costume is fine. But something syntheric looking like that wouldn't fit the 30s aesthetic. They could have made it look like leather I guess, but they wanted to keep the looks of everyone grounded and gritty.
>>153936417ill try it out later this evening or on the weekendin black and white of course
>resisting the masculine urge to open a jazz loungeThe dress code alone would be enough to keep the riffraff outhttps://youtu.be/1-rLXY_jFcE?si=fKjv817nuLJbMahV
>>153936417posting the sider-noir I have saved on my laptop
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Cat doesn't deserve BenFlints love was only conditional on if it was convenient for himStupid woman chose wrong
>>153949452no rubrics cube in full color randomly at his place
>>153946313No, he can't. There's no asterisk on that rule.
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>>153949625Where's this series
Ok now that the dust has settled we're all in agreement this should be one and done, right?We got something good, it would be unfortunate if they raped the bodySeason 2 curse with a larger budget and writing staff for a modern audience
Usually, I hate it when they give Spider-Man's supervillains the same origin for their powers. But Noir's WWI premise is intriguing.
>>153949788This is Sony's first win after those villain movies gigaflopped so I doubt they're letting it go that easy.But yeah I wouldn't mind if this was a one and done. I hope their takeaway from this is that people want to see more Spider-people, not a heroic Kraven the Hunter played by the dude from Kick Ass.My wishlist is>a Spider-Man 2099 movie>a Mayday Spider-Girl show or a Jessica Spider-Woman show (but it's Lord and Miller so you know they're making Gwen shit)>a Peni anime movie by Trigger or Sunrise
>>153950698Yeah war experiment is way better than any>>153950771Solo villain movie thread
>>153950698So the german scientist is 99% otto right?
>>153950882And I'm guessing the guy who ages rapidly is vulture? Pic not related
Are the schizos saying Mr negative is in the show right or did I miss something?
They completely botched "CAT HARDY", both as a Felicia variant and a genre Feme Fatale. We should have had a Jessica Rabbit, not a stern and stoic chinese grandmother. They should have had Mary Jane as the Singer/ Club performer and Felicia as her bad girl self. The ladies are working together to bring down Silvermane for different reasons. Maybe there could have even been a love triangle, something to keep me from falling asleep.
>Watching spider noir in color on your first watch
>>153951094 This is meant to be watched in color sorry to tell youIt's highly saturated costime and set design, they put so much effort into it its a shame if you decide not to take it inNot really up for debate honestlyhttps://youtu.be/vpSgZ-Dnjqc?si=rcEzwqtReJKlboLO
>>153951795It was literally shot for black and white, right down to the lighting retard. The color version is a neat gimmick, but not the primary intended way to experience it.
>>153951878 If it was meant to be watched in black and white they would have filmed it in black and white then colorized itThey filmed it in color then filtered All their outfits are bright and vibrant
>>153951969>they would have filmed it in black and white then colorized itThey literally did. The cameras were set up to capture in black and white natively. They were outputting black and white to the monitors during filming. The entire thing was designed for black and white. They captured color data separately to use for the colorized version, but the filming process was planned for the black and white version.
>>153951969>All their outfits are bright and vibrantNigga do you have any idea what the sets of black and white productions actually looked like?
>>153936417>Is anyone even watching thisI've only watched the first episode so far it seems decent
Was electro supposed to be gay? Like no one called him a fop or dropped any slurs but having a guy in the 50's constantly talking about Broadway and kissing a dude to death seems like it.
>>153953647Silvermane is literally exploring freaks. He cares more if you can do a job, besides dames make guys act silly, also if you're a song and dance man less likely you'll steal one of his girls.
>>153953671Employing*
>>153953647Nahh you know he's just musical is all, just a little light in the loafers you know? He gives a careful handshake you see? He real fond of his mother, he's got a silk bathrobe, he takes a different bus is all really
>>153953647He's not Electro, he's based on an single issue villain called Megawatt.What's funny is, they don't treat him like a stand in for Electro either. His theatrics are taken from the comic, he's an actor who brings up movies and tropes and all that. In this show they switched that for Broadway.
>>153953893This shitThis shit right here is what I wish they did more of.
>>153942645>Never gets the girlOMD really fucked it all
>Nazi's gave people animal blood transfusions to make them super soldiers Weird but just believable enough to be okay>Experiments included>Dog- accelerated aging >Rino? (where did they even fit it?) - super strength and armor plates>Spider- strength webbing, typical spiderman stuff>??? (maybe eel or catfish) - controlling electricity? >??????? - fire control? (I guess it's possible it's some kind of frog or something that covers itself in flammable oil?) >??????????????????? - turning into sand??????????
>>153953997>Rino? (where did they even fit it?) - super strength and armor platesOooooooh, I thought he was "The Lizard" I guess Rhino makes more sense. His head didn't look like a rhino though.
>>153954067I think they where confused in general what they wanted to do with him, the design in clearly rhino but his named after tombstone and they seem to intentionally avoid giving him a nickname where sandman and megawatt get an explicit shout out.
>>153953997The ww1 setting is weird because Germans weren't doing nazi shit, that popped off because Germany was building railways which allowed them to conduct trade over long distances across the land. the english didn't like that because their naval power had a strangle hold over all the shipping routes and Germany was circumventing thatIt's the same shit they pulled flooding China with opium, there was a foreign nation growing in economic and industrial power so they had to snuff it outThen of course ww2 happened as a sequel to ww1Basically every atrocity that came from those wars is singularly the fault of the English
>>153954150I'd say he was an armadillo, segmented armor plates and bumps on his foreheadSeason 2 I'm expecting his spider mutation gets out of hand They already set it up he has it mostly under control but it takes effort on his part, And we see it creep out a few times
In the Superman/Spider-Man issue, Luthor called Spider-Man Noir “The Spider.” Has that been his name in the comics for a while or was that just something introduced in that story? I genuinely don’t know.
>>153936417Is it pozzed or not?
>>153955661That depends. Was it made after 2012?
>>153955661 Now the one thing I don't like about it is the morbidly obese secretary, they just didn't make em that big back then
https://screenrant.com/spider-noir-spiderman-silvermane-backstory-change-explained/Opinions on Silvermane?
>>153945893Robbertson
>>153954067>>153953997Megawatt was eels but they said they where also experimenting with minerals, so Sandman and Thombstone probably where just sand and rock
>>153954965Ben Urich was nicknamed The Spider in Noir, while Peter called himself The Spider-Man when he became, well, Spider-Man
>>153957697He has some nice scenes but all his goons were more interesting. Also I keep calling him Falcone in my head, I associate Silvermane more with being a robot than a regular gangster.
>>153957697It was okay, Felt like he could have been slotted in with 3-4 other 'Normal human crime boss' that are Spidies' main enemies without making any real difference.At least it wasn't Kingpin for the 10th time.
ive finished ep 3the twist was really well playedMarking your cash to find out which of your employees are making bribes is something that had never occurred to me, smart
I've marinated on itI hope there's no season 2Theres no more story that needs to be told in this worldThe case is solved, everyone got closureLeave it at that
I hope there's a Peni easter egg
You know Cage playing Ben still works because people looked rough in the 40s
>>153959039Assuming he was 20-26 in the war which was standard draft age he was web slinging for a year or so, then took a 6 year break, He should still be in his early 30's in Nior.But ya especially during the great depression, drinking straight moonshine, and chain smoking hotdogs will put years on you over night.
>>153959094That shit nowadays still adds 15 years you should see me at 28 I look like my dad
How much you wanna bet they'll try and squeeze Noir and other Spidey variants into Secret Wars?
>>1539591822 dollars
>>153959182unless they give sony a huge bag I don't think they'll give up the ip by tying it to marvel slop in the year of our Parker 20XX
>>153959094>Assuming he was 20-26 in the war which was standard draft age he was web slinging for a year or so, then took a 6 year break, He should still be in his early 30's in NiorThe show is set 15 years after the war, that's why he thought it was weird that all the prisoners where suddenly getting their powers now at the same time
>>153944493> make Spider-Man cartoons if they stretch the episodes over 45, minutes invincible-styleI know it's never happening... But we can dream, right?
Is the show actually interesting? I did not try ot because I assumed it would be as cringe as the spiderverse character. I love noir and I love Spider-Man, but I'm definitely not into the "punch-a-nazi", redditor bait. But if the show is actually good, I might give it a chance
>>153959094>>153960135Plus on top of that he was actually in the warSo he's got like:>effects of WW1 (in more ways than one)>drinking a lot>Great Depression>loss of his fiance>smoking >eating hot dogs a lot
>>153954752>Germans weren't doing nazi shitThey're the ones who started using mustard gas + intentionally targeting purely civilian targets via artillery.
The part where Nicolas Cage lashes out at those guys at the bar and says that maybe, maybe, maybe The Spider is just a regular guy kind of got me for some reason.
Odds I watch in color evens i watch in black and white
>>153962599The blacks and the whites are with me
So people are realizing the original Spider was cool? finally
Too many minorities for my taste. Feels more like modern day commifornia instead of 1930’s NYC. Didn’t they just pull this shit with Batman, too? Also on Amazon? Capeslop can’t die soon enough.
>>153960978Ok but the US used shotguns tho?
>>153962825The cast is almost entirely whiteThe only one that doesn't make sense is the fat Spanish oneBlacks and Irish have been in NY since those timesAnd cat is basically a zoo animal on display
