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Why did AT writers hate Finn so much?
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Archetypal white male hero who saves damsels, fights bad guys, and goes on adventures. It perpetuates a negative precedent and toxic ideas. Also they think suffering on its own equals character development.
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>>153936459
Once you notice who are the writers that hate Finn you will get your answer.
>>153936573
The fall of AT to pretentious slop should be studied.
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>The fall of AT to pretentious slop should be studied.
It all started in season 1 episode 1.
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>>153936696
Early AT was mostly just dumb fun with random whacky bullshit and a kid going on adventures with his magic dog.
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>>153936459
They were brown
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>>153936823
Sam is white.
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>>153936803
If you especially look at the pilot there was an attempt being made to interstich esoteric ideas and <deep seeming nonsense>. It was part of a short lived meme regarding ironic high brow philosophy. like how weird and wise can you sound. As a joke. Remember the tart tower's little speech? Abraham Lincoln description of being executed to Jake?
It was a hip joke at the time but there's this whole
>if you make your fun by pretending to be pretentious sophists
>you'll soon find yourself surrounded by real ones who will get you fired and take over your industry.
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>>153936803
They did that to hook in normal kids so they can brainwash them into becoming trans. It killed them to do it in fact.
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>>153936863
The browns kicked him out and then ate his show
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>>153936893
>>153936899
Fuck off
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>>153936696
Stfu
>>153936823
You are
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>>153936919
>>153936932
For the last time, we don't downvote here.
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>>153936459
Straight white male
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>>153936978
Insulting your faggotry is a good thing.
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>>153936459
Brown trannies hate white men. More news at 5.
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>HISSSSSS noooo not the truth! Aaaah it burns! I have to lash out and attack people who tell the truth!
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>>153936998
You didn't insult, you downvoted. Get a job finncel
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>>153937012
Spamming isn’t the truth.
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>>153937014
Lol, useless cuck
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>>153937043
Nice projection. You are completely useless in every way. All you do is seethe on /co/ 24/7. You can't even make decent posts that aren't pollution. Imagine being bad at the only thing you ever do
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>>153937101
Megafaggot
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>>153937125
What's wrong with fags? Adventure Time is filled with them. You're in the wrong thread, nigga.
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>>153937101
>>153937145
>Giving any form of attention to trolls
You're not making any insightful comments when addressing these people, stupid faggot.
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>>153937186
He’s the troll.
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>>153936459
They hate white men. That's why they ended the show and made a tranny version.
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>>153937292
Your fetish isn’t canon.
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>>153936459
based dad
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>>153937314
You go to hell, onionsboy
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>>153937323
You being a woman isn't canon.
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>>153937358
Seethe, tranimaniac.
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>>153936612
Yes, the perfidious Irish
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>>153937401
Nice projection
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>>153936887
>>if you make your fun by pretending to be pretentious sophists
>>you'll soon find yourself surrounded by real ones who will get you fired and take over your industry.
Fun factoid: that quote misattributed to Voltaire about the outcome of pretending to be retarded causing real retards to flock to you isn't Voltaire or even the guy in the picture (Rene Descartes). It originates from an old post on ycombinator, and it was specifically about /b/.
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>>153936459
This guy helped storyboard “The Mountain” episode. A dumb existential Lemongrab episode that just rambles on about shit.
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Marceline wasn't that good of a character, now that I think about it.
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>>153937756
Yeah, I also realized that.
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>>153937756
but anon, she makes my weenus grow!
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>>153937507
Ironically McHale could have helped the show if he had stayed
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>>153936919
Sneed
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>>153936932
>no u
Gtfo
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>>153937808
I've had Indian and Paki friends and they don't look like Muto
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>>153937523
Nice deflection
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At least the trans character he paired up with in the end is hot and feminine in appearance only
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>>153937866
Then what actually is he?
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>>153937907
Your fetish isn’t canon, stop denying the truth.
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>>153936803
I think the perfect AT was in between 'overly wacky wtf nonsense' and 'overly up its own ass psychological fartsmelling'
but I still say the entire original series (minus Blue Nose I guess) is great, plus 3 of the 4 HBO specials.
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>>153936459
Working off some rusty memories here, but:
>show starts out being about the Time spent Adventuring while Finn has a few childhood crushes
>show makes all sorts of references and gags about nerdy shit and D&D and such
>part of the team is made up of a few unironic Tumblr shippers (lesbian), but there's not enough to be an issue
>over time, Pen Ward and some others move on while new people fill in, including more unironic Tumblr shippers (lesbian)
>team's mostly switched out at this point, and then we get the episode about them singing to that door...
Then:
>show progressively becomes less about Finn and more about PB and Marceline
>adventures stop being about dungeon crawling and weird artifacts
>most of the show switches to relationship trouble, 99% negative for Finn
>he isn't even allowed to get little pecks on the cheek anymore
>most good things that happen to Finn have a big negative to them, just to keep him from getting too happy
>showrunners even make a point of having Finn get raped because they legit don't like him at this point, and it's getting clear the people currently writing the show don't know what to do with him
>Finn is basically an NPC background character in the finale of his own show
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>>153938192
>>showrunners even make a point of having Finn get raped because they legit don't like him at this point,
That was one storyboarder
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>the state of this thread
This is what happens when Finncels don't get their daily dose of lesbian porn. Deploy the Bubbline tributes everyone.
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>>153936459
Post his face
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>>153938508
Stfu, homo
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>>153936459
>one million "AT writers ruined Finn" threads per day
>they barely mention Jake
either Jake is the #1 GOAT, or larpers just don't watch enough of the actual show to give a shit about him
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>>153938604
Jake just has no drama so there's no seething to talk about.
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>>153938604
You are the larper
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>>153938635
They made him too much of a schlub as the show went on, still miles better than how Finn turned out.
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>>153938582
Stop being cranky Finncel. I'll post the porn now, just be patient
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>>153938691
Cuck
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>>153938805
What's that? Porn where Finn is the cuck? Right away!
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>>153938824
>Porn where Finn is the cuck?
That's just any post-season 4 episode.
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>>153937756
Flame Princess was better.
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>>153936573
The latter makes more sense than the former babble
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>>153936459
Why do we care about them? Finn won in the end.
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>>153939125
Yeah, but they only let it happen cause she's trans. They would never let finn be in a straight relationship
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>>153939147
Nope, sto lying
>>153939054
Absolutely wrong
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>>153939066
All can be true
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>>153939172
>sto lying
Sto being brown and trans.
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>>153938604
>jake
loving wife
has kids that love him
>finn
gets shit on constantly
every relationship ends because shippers and female brained writers must have relationship drama
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>>153939194
I’m still more right than you’ll ever be, cope.
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>>153939147
I highly doubt our HW is trans. If they gave Farmer Finn kids with his HW, our Finn will 100% have kids with her at some point.
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>mfw I remember Rebecca Sugar will never pay for her crimes against Adventure Time
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>>153939215
Tranny Time. With Troon and Tran.
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>>153939228
Farmer Finn is trans too. Huntress got him pregnant.
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>>153938604
jake died of a botched gender reassignment surgery. That's why finn yelled out for him.
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>>153936459
Next week it's my turn to make this thread
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>>153939291
Nice projections
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>>153939396
>t. seething brown finncel
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>>153938604
Really the only complaint about Jake is that he's just... dead.

>>153938283
Still got approved, goofball.
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>>153939456
So?
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>>153939187
Except wishful thinking
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>>153939521
Not an argument.
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I don't know how to say this without treading on previous sentiments.
The creators HATE white people, and they hate straight men.
They would genuinely rather write a story about humanity being entirely wiped out than having it saved by some blue eyed aryan child.
They want (You) to understand that even if you are literally the last man on earth and you have done nothing but help people, you are not entitled to happiness because it wouldn't be fair to all the bipocs that died before you. And they will stop at nothing narratively, socially, or politically from making sure you understand that you deserve nothing and are owed nothing.
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>>153939685
trvke
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>>153939685
>>153939733
No
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>>153939761
Stop downvoting
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>>153939817
Stop coping
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>>153939761
You're welcome to deny it all you want.
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>>153939829
Learn what coping means, ESsmell
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>>153939831
He believes he's a woman. There's no rationalizing with him.
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>>153939873
That’s you
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>>153939897
Nope. You're projecting.
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>>153938192
The fuck? Finn got raped?
I stopped watching around season 4
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>>153939919
Kind of by LSP
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>>153939930
LSP 'n HRT
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>>153938604
There's a reason they're called finncels
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>>153939237
I have to imagine being a very ugly woman is its own kind of hell. You’re acutely aware of the fact that you don’t get showered with love and attention just for existing like all your friends do.
Even if you make all your dreams come true, you still come home and see yourself in the mirror and probably just sob some days.
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>>153939919
he liked it
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>>153939953
You lost
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>>153939985
jokes on you, I always liked fintress. love the finn, hate the finncels.
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>>153938604
Jake got to be the fun mascot they could do wacky shit with. They didn't have a reason to hate him like Finn. I guess the worst thing about him is his kids kind of suck because the writers decided they should all grow up to be older than him.
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>>153936823
Im getting brown fatigue fatigue
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>>153938192
This is actually a good take
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>>153936459
"What I want is to help anyone in need so everyone is happy".
I fucking hate what they did to Finn's character post S5, He became a manipulative weirdo that doubled down on being a simp for PB then doing nothing in the series finale... FUCKing worst immaturity development arc EVER.
I hope Side Quests gives us the spunky golden hearted hero back.
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>>153936573
It's the same reason why there's a bunch of women currently at Lucasfilm (who were hired after the Disney buyout) who fucking DESPISE Luke Skywalker. Liberal white women (or liberal minority women who were raised in mostly white liberal environments) hate the classic straight white hero because they're envious that the story isn't about a girl instead, they're resentful that the *boyish* character is both capable of violence AND is compassionate, and they weirdly also hate that the character isn't "manly" enough. It sounds weird, but the Finn Mertens/Luke archetype isn't popular with liberal women because in their minds, a man should only be a few things:

>if he's a minority, he has to be a cheerleader or play second fiddle to a white woman
>if he's a white guy and "one of the good ones" (a socially acceptable straight "bad guy"), he has to be lacking in empathy so that a white woman can teach him empathy
>he can't be empathetic and ALSO be a straight young guy because it makes the women insecure

You will never see an example like classic Finn or Luke Skywalker ever again in mainstream media because liberal white women see a sweet straight young white man as an existential threat. Finn and Luke could be EASILY re-imagined as girls and not much changes...and we all know that girls hate girls more than anyone else.
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>>153940032
Louse
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insane how there is zero mention of Rebecca Sugar ITT. Even the nu-AT haters are LARPing
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>>153940108
I wish Finn actually manipulated people and came on top by screwing them over just for the cathartic hell of it.
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>>153940128
At least Sugar gave Finn a hot flame atronach girlfriend. Though they couldn't help but trash it as soon as she left leading to the ratings declining. They hated Finn so much they were willing to burn the hole house down.
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>>153940108
Seconded, this is what Fionna and Cake should have gone off on. Both weird character choices
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>>153940156
I'd rather his manipulative nature be justified by living under PBs thumb since he was 12 and call that shit out. Cowards.
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>>153936459
Because feminist invaded every male space to ruin it.
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>>153940164
Its moreso Sugar put in place the model of the show being boarder driven allowing weirdos to make Adventure Time about everyone except Finn and Jake.
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>>153940108
The problem with post-S5 Finn is that you can tell that Muto was trying to be clever and "deconstruct" the premise of Finn but it doesn't work because it has to basically fucking ignore Jake's entire existence and ascertained presence on Finn's development in his life. The logical conclusion for Finn's (shitty) new story direction would be that the narrative points to Jake and Finn's relationship as the root cause for Finn's fuckups with Jake as the older brother/substitute father who failed to prime Finn for the nuances of relationships and deeper connections with the outside world. Finn might have serious parental issues, but Jake was raising him after Margaret and Joshua died, and Margaret and Joshua didn't do half-bad on their end.

Except this doesn't happen and it can't happen because that would mean making Jake look bad and breaking the Finn and Jake dynamic that makes up the heart of the show.

It just goes to show that you shouldn't pull a Venture Bros or Pluto on your story when you're not done telling it. Same thing happened to Steven Universe Future. Otherwise, you just make things ugly and miserable.
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>>153940164
>At least Sugar gave Finn a hot flame atronach girlfriend.
THAT, was the beginning of the end
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>>153940108
>I fucking hate what they did to Finn's character post S5, He became a manipulative weirdo that doubled down on being a simp for PB

I remember around this time there was a lot of leftists discourse around "nice guys". Finn basically was turned into one and thats what ruined him.
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>>153940180
Yeah, this is also another problem with Muto's Adventure Time. It tries to give EVERYONE the Ice King treatment but doesn't do it fairly.
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PB deserves nothing but goodness
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>>153940205
Why did DarentZ drew Jake as if he was made of plastic?
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>>153940257
Yes, him.
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>>153940230
>>153940208
I feel like it would have made sense if Finn used Phoebe's feelings to get what he wants since his only experience with romance was Bubblebutt using his feelings to command her own little child soldier unknowingly or not. But the show didn't have the balls so it was just cosmic owl bs.
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>>153940271
He's just nice and oiled up
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>>153940313
Should have whipped her into complete obedience instead.
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>>153940328
Ah yeah, the retard juice, I forgot it.
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>>153940335
>whip the 15 foot tall fire beast than could incinerate you.
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>>153936459
Why couldn't AT ended up being a harem cartoon where Finn impregnates all the princesses. He literally deserved it after all the shit he went through in the franchise, & it would have ended up being a better ending to the series than whatever the hell we got in the actual series. Fuck these gay millennial writers.
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>>153940313
The worst thing I hate about Finn's direction under Muto is that it's one thing to be "deconstructive" towards your premise but the sheer amount of self-pitying and excessive "boo hoo, poor me" attitude that hangs over the series is fucking annoying.

Nobody likes a person with self-hatred and who constantly whines about themselves because all that communicates is a bloated Ego. Me, me, me. Woody Allen shit.

It's one of the reasons why men have such a hard time engaging with women's media since it's constantly prone to that type of self-flagellation, it's practically their coping mechanism for having chronic anxiety and periods and being able to masturbate for hours without stopping. When men say they genuinely can't relate to women, they mean stuff like that. It's no wonder Fionna and Cake alienated half of the fanbase, men generally do not watch stuff like Sex and the City or Desperate Housewives for a reason.
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>>153937756
Her dynamic with Finn at the start was 10/10 but they just stopped doing that for some reason.
My theory is they didn't want any other ships being more popular than Bubbline so they sabotaged them, same with Finn and FP.
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>>153940406
Nobody wants that.
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I liked The Lich and Loli PB but I stopped watching after she got big again

what did I miss?
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>>153940394
Yea, just use the flame shield and a magmatic whip and she’ll lose her haughtiness.
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>>153940452
Yeah, so many interesting ways they could have handled Finn's maturity arc, Having guilt from beating up a mentally ill old man trapped by the crown, His morals conflicting with PB and dropping the childish Princess and her hero thing. ANYTHING, but no he just moped around and got molested by LSP.
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>>153939066
"They hate white people and Finn is white" is what the first part meant
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>>153940452
Like Fionna and Cake can't exist if it were "Finn and Jake" as a coffee shop slice of life AU because the ACTUAL Finn (not even Muto's Finn) wouldn't be sitting around crying or actively destroying his life, he'd be doing ridiculous shit at work all the time or have an adventurous career from day one.

Relationship problems? He'd let it wash over him and go find a girl who he clicks with. His friends need help? He'll help them and somehow find a way. And so on. None of this conflict-avoidant self-hating pussy shit.
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>>153940549
>Having guilt from beating up a mentally ill old man trapped by the crown,
No, that keeps him in check
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>>153940513
>Grabs you and threatens to chuck you across OOO.
now what.
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>>153940567
Nice fanfic
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>>153940281
>>153940335
>>153940513
>>153940579
I'm trans btw
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>>153940563
Yeah but Finn turned into a bit more of a pacifist in the final season, So I feel like him reflecting on punching first and not approaching situations with any nuance could be a gateway to that. He likes to help but basically ignored someone suffering from a curse. I'm just trying to connect BS to make his transition from early to late seasons make sense.
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>>153940549
It would have been a thousand times more interesting to see things get really psychologically fucked up, actually having the balls to go full Venture Bros (or at least what CN could allow compared to Adult Swim)

>Finn's collective brain damage from all the fighting he goes through
>Finn's unresolved guilt from all the times he's beat up Ice King
>beef with PB over her increasingly totalitarian ways until he quits on her and becomes her enemy
>PB's treatment of Finn (and Finn taking away all the wrong lessons) hanging over his every move during his relationship with FP
>Finn's dynamic with his dad being even uglier
>Jake being reframed as a horribly irresponsible older brother
>examination of Finn's crushing loneliness as the only human in Ooo
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>>153936696
Somebody on /co/ who actually gets it, what a novelty. AT was never good. It always had a pretentious, deliberately half-assed atmosphere, where you could tell the people making it were daring you to call them lazy and sloppy so they could go "that's the point maaaaaan, you just don't get it!"

Fucking hipster garbage
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>>153940652
This
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>>153940626
Nuance is useless when dealing with scrubs.
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>>153940636
Nah what if he just played with dollies of his friends like an incel and manipulates FP into fighting Ice King so he can have more cuck dreams?
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>>153940636
No, this would’ve ruined the show even further and you’d cry about that in that timeline
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>>153940482
>Nobody wants that.
If I were Finn I'd be open to that, but of course Finn is a hero and his duty is to protect without compensation or the expectation of one.
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>>153940652
Nice seething
>>153940670
Wrong
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>>153940710
We don't downvote here, newfag
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>>153940696
>No, you don't understand LSP forcing herself on Finn was WAY more interesting.
okay guy.
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>>153940739
Not what I meant, bottom feeder
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>>153940482
Shut up, homosexual. Yes they do. Finn turning in a gigachad & having a harem would have been the best thing to happen to the IP. Only faggots & dykes hate the idea of a man having a harem. Seeing Finn having a bunch Finn Jrs after banging the princesses would have opened a new lore to continue the series.
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>>153940777
Lol, as if, you probably can’t even get it hard anymore
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>>153940636
>>153940696
Wait a sec, why does some of this just sound like the Steven Universe finale?
>>153940748
Tackling a few of those plots would have been interesting though without going full doom.
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>>153940816
Your ideas are garbage anyway.
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>>153940867
Couldn't be more garbage than what they went with.
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>>153940875
Don’t tempt fate
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>still mad
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>>153940928
You wish.
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>>153940652
You know what, fuck you gasbag
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>>153940928
Didn't the fiona series broke them up.
Everyone knew they wouldn't last and their relationship would always be abusive.
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All this AT season 5+ discourse reminds me of Star vs discourse after season 2. Writers had no idea how to write the rest of a story so settled on bullshit drama filler than went nowhere and left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
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>>153936573
Everyone also seems to forget how by the end they intentionally wanted to make Finn into a pacifist and I think he said that specifically somewhere around the finale, to take away him doing anything worthwhile. That whole final season has been forgotten by everyone it seems after they immediately went back on the finale with specials and spinoffs.
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>>153940452
Speak for yourself, some of us can masturbate for hours without stopping
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>>153938604
They didn't hate Jake, but they did kind of use him for their own stupid bullshit a couple times. Their deep, DEEP obsession with bad father figures didn't infect Joshua iirc, but they found a way to take Jake having kids (who aged to the point of taking care of themselves rapidly) turning him into being seen temporarily as a bad and absent father who spends too much time on adventures and not with them, and then introduced an alien dad that was Jake's dad so Jake could still have an awful father who neglected him anyway.

Fuck I hate the AT crew. Literally made up a new backstory for a main character just to have yet another bad father figure becaue they couldn't touch the original.
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>>153940164
>At least Sugar gave Finn a hot flame atronach girlfriend.
...by suddenly making PB and Finn's dynamic awkward, with him trying to lay on her lap and her saying "uh... finn... no. don't be weird. sorry i gotta leave" and it cutting to him crying like a fat lump on the ground with a picture of her surrounded by candles and craddling a piece of her hair.

i fucking hate the FP waifufags who give rebecca a pass when she just did the same thing she always does. makes awful fucking melodrama. you could even feel rebecca trying to make a transition from normal PB to her altered misery version, because there was a "beauty" shot of PB looking elegant and sweet, right before the awkward shit started.
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>>153942198
That was right before he was about to confront Fern, "I use to be all about violence, now its like I'm different"
Brav-fucking-O. Weird selfish simp prick into pacifist wet blanket. Legendary ending for Finn. The movie is gonna be the same shit isn't it?
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>>153940928
The only reason I even remember this (and not just the more recent shit going on people have talked about) is because I remember the pre-premiere screening of the finale had people giving fake leaks about how a bunch of side characters like abracadaniel died on-screen in hamlet deaths and "the bubbline kiss was like 8 seconds long! everyone cheered!"
everyone was talking about it for the short time up to the premiere and then swiftly forgot about it
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>>153940799
Roastie detected.
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>>153942255
There is a consistent relationship between their values and the quality of their stories.
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>>153936459
Generally related to the whole concept of AT's identity morphing over time, but I remember that one episode where Finn got special eyes, and made the characters change into how he saw them, got on my nerves. They made him see PB as some short-haired tomboy because that's apparently what the writers thought of her by then. Original Finn would've seen her as a cute and very attractive feminine woman. You could still do that with adding in him seeing her as an attractive leader (queen-ish, but not in the annoying way), but I guess just making her feminine was dead in the water by then.

Amazing how the crew both hated men and femininity at the same time.
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what is it about this show that attracts so many mentally ill people
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>>153942543
>horny male going through puberty
>sees his feminine object of affections as having short scalp-hugging hair despite having long hair, and having minimal to no breasts in a baggy t-shirt despite having worn breast-accentuating form hugging pink and pretty dresses
There really was no one on the team by then who just loved the idea of a boy's fantasy show about heroics and ladies.
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>>153942596
stunted adult projecting their fantasies onto this show
either making horrible writing decisions or self inserting as finn
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>>153942630
It reminds me of what they did to Peach in the Mario movie. They changed the idea of Mario fancying Peach as a girly sweetheart princess, into admiring her as a badass action cunt. Movie Mario sees Peach more as a powerful action-oriented tomboy than anything remotely feminine.

Finn doesn't have an excuse though because he went through seasons with her before they changed her. Her deal wasn't that she was a tomboy back then, she was just wacky and spontaneous and weird for the sake of the show's humor. I think people slowly blended those jokes of her being weird, into her being seen as a tomboy for some reason.
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>>153936459
>hate Finn
Maybe it wasn't hate, but some humiliation ritual fetish?
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>>153936573
The ruining of Finn's character coincides with the general shift in how writers developed brainrot in the 2010s. In fact, it may be the ur example of it. You had an extroverted white male protagonist, who embodied every aspect of the archetypal hero's journey. And by the end, all the writers wanted was to make it about weepy lesbians. To the point of where the current "adult" show is about a genderbent version of the MC who's a fat millennial girlfailure, who just moans about relationship problems.
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>>153936459
Having never watched a single full episode of the show, and given that my entire knowledge of it comes from the bacon pancakes song, and going solely by cultural osmosis?

It's because Finn existing gets in the way of the yuri.
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>>153942596
Its a retarded schizo show from the jump
Of course dumbfucks and nutjobs latch onto this like a leech
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>>153942596
Rebecca Sugar
Fucking dyke destroyed the IP with her woke faggot propaganda.
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>>153943089
The show went from a story about a boy & his dog going on adventures to a Tumblr therapy session involving 2 failed princesses. In a short, female writers ruined AT.
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>>153940928
Fuck that gay shit
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>>153942716
You're mistaken tomboys for girlboss failures. No one likes aggressive females.
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Finncel rebounded from the Bubblegum/Flame princess fiasco. He gets fucked by trannies now.
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>>153942314
TRUKE
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>>153944281
Stfu
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>>153942543
>>153942630
>>153942716
It’s because Finn doesn’t see her as a romantic interest anymore.
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>>153944422
I wouldn’t even enter that shitty excuse for a thread even under ransom, you spaz.
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>>153944430
You're the spaz who keep messing the thread! Why are you so in deniel by this?!
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>>153944437
I can deny something that’s false no begone.
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>>153939954
You know, now that you mention it, medieval Islam had a notion that the congenitally deformed were people who were punished for their sins in advance by Allah.
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>>153936573
This entire post is problematic and does not reflect ANYTHING that should be represented in entertainment for anyone.
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huntress is trans
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>>153938604
Jake gets a bunch of Ws where Finn gets Ls AND when he does have to deal with shit the writers let him properly cope and roll with the punches.
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>>153945997
You deserve to suffer.
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>>153939066
why do you think someones opinion has to make sense?
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>>153944424
>Just get over your crush because you're worthless and you'll never amount to shit while women have a free license to be Dr. Doom all they want
Doesn't stop it from being garbo, retard.
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>>153943142
The funny thing is you're not actually wrong. This is what it really comes down to. Someone on the writing team, probably most of the writing team, really wanted the vampire princess to smooch the candy princess and didn't give a fuck about the guy that the show was actually supposed to be about.

The show being written by women and men who might as well troon out for how worthless they are is also why the final villain was defeated by a woman going inside of him and hijacking his power.
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>>153946843
Shut up, you stuck-up retard
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>>153945637
Stop projecting
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>>153936978
Yes we do. It's called greentexting.
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>>153946955
Not the same.
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>>153946923
The truth hurts, yuricuck SLOP EATING retard KEKOLD.
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Imagine actually defending PB and Marceline ending up together. Imagine actually defending Betty being able to subdue GOLB with astral projection. Imagine liking the ending.

Only on /co/mblr, lmao.
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>>153947183
Not your bogeyman
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>>153947199
>Only on /co/mblr, lmao.
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>>153937587
Funner factoid: Anon didn't attribute the quote to anyone or include a picture, so your reply is completely irrelevant and there is a nonzero chance you have schizophrenia.
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>>153936459
Bad people hate good people
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>>153936573
>Also they think suffering on its own equals character development.
This. This is what they never understand.
"Constantly suffering hero" characters like Spider-Man, Kenshiro, et cetera aren't cool because they suffer but because they accept suffering in the name of moral fortitude. It's aspirational. It's sacrificing what you want for who you want to be, treating pain as a lesson, learning when you fuck up. It's the mark of heroism and redemption.

Finn's first fumble with romance is one thing but even if you want him having breakups before finding the love of his life, those breakups should have dignity
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>>153939269
>MtF trannies
>Getting pregnant
Ask me how I know this is ragebait.
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>>153947458
>"Constantly suffering hero" characters like Spider-Man, Kenshiro, et cetera aren't cool because they suffer but because they accept suffering in the name of moral fortitude. It's aspirational. It's sacrificing what you want for who you want to be, treating pain as a lesson, learning when you fuck up. It's the mark of heroism and redemption.
It helps that their suffering is caused by dangerous situations and not just petty romances.
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Phew! That was a good rimjob, Finncel. Your forte is tranny bussy
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>>153942596
Loser MC.
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Fun to watch a few people circle jerk over their warped views. Guess it's the autism making them retarded.
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>>153942255
>and then introduced an alien dad that was Jake's dad so Jake could still have an awful father who neglected him anyway.
Am I the only that was legitimately PISSED OFF at this, unless you're named Joshua, every single dad in the series is either abusive, a deadbeat or an absent incompetent father, not even to bring to give something but rather just to repeat the same lesson over and over again ad nauseam?

You legitimately wonder all the writers of the show got molested as kids by their own fathers since they seem to hate them so much
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>>153949077
Stfu
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>>153949779
We don't downvote here, Finncel. Go kiss your valid trans them-friend



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