IT'S TRICKY! edition>previous>>153934396
>>153936572https://youtube.com/watch?v=6NMTDhl3ox8&ra
OC ANCHOR +https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96129143-6203-6163Original zooble subedition
Where can I meet Amanda Hufford? I want her to sign my Ragatha figure box.
>>153936572>The Amazing Digital SEX Circus
>>153936720Have fun and watch the show if you havent yet
I want eat sandwiches off Pomni's ass.
So we all agree, that shit was so ass right?
>>153936614is it bad that I kinda find this zooble more appealing?
>>153936757No. Jax's storyline is pure kino
>>153936749nice
>>153936760Yes, we will be scheduling your execution in 2 hours
>>153936757i wanna see shit come from Ragatha's ass
>>153936766sharing is caring though
>>153936757June 4 is close now
reminder
>>153936757Jax carried the show. Goose only mistake was wasting her time on Ragatha.
I would play with Goose's little goosenis
>>153936784Phonejack bunda doodlehttps://files.catbox.moe/zz21ug.png
>>153936572Sauce? This is a great edit.
If you want to post uncensored porn you can do here>>>/trash/83002051
>>153936614Repostan sad snake
>>153936796>BARK BARK BARKThat's it, I'm calling the city pound.
>>153936757We love asses
>>153936757>consensus manufacturing ritual postGrim
>>153936572Dude this finale felt like something out of the guys that made Bojack Horseman
>>153936757We? Like Nintendo Wii nigga? Like Wii Sports? Are you speaking french?
>>153936792Before episode 9 I would have disagreed with you
>>153936474Right, it didn't feel like Jax was meant to be rotten to the core and unsavable.If this was one of the routes, then when you've watched the credits, you'd feel kinda sad and empty, but then you'd reload your save file and eventually get THE ending you will remember fondly for the rest of your life.I don't even think they should have made it a literal game, a single nice ending would have been enough. But it feels like they didn't really care for how the audience would feel.
Pompom and her disgusting fat fuck purple boyfriend
>>153936886>Right, it didn't feel like Jax was meant to be rotten to the core and unsavable.did to me
>>153936886This is an insanely apt analogy.
>>153936844Imagine resting your head on that thing.
>>153936572>2026 i am forgotten
>>153936927Ragawho?
>>153936927>Horny ass candy Gangle
>>153936886Its not about what Jax deserves or how rotten he was but the ending he ultimately chose for himself when he pushed everyone away from him even when they tried to connect with him>But it feels like they didn't really care for how the audience would feel.Good, the author should care about its vision first and only, regardless if its going to leave the audience a little upset after it ends
>>153936572Limitless Jaxpup lamentations.Infinite GummiGOD celebrations.How's your medicine? Bitter, isn't it? Good! Ha!
What if the show stayed as mostly a comedy?
>>153936948>Referring to Gooseworx as "it"
>>153936975Im talking about authors as a concept in general not just Goose
>>153936869Bojack lived with the consequences of his actions instead of turning into no mouth, but a dog guy
>>153936886>I don't even think they should have made it a literal gameLol, I just threw that in there at the end as a jokeI agree with everything you're saying tho, it could have been kino
my irrational fears are falling or slipping and getting one of those store display hooks in my eye and it going straight into my brain, or my toilet suddenly breaking under me and slicing me up from my ass to my elbow because i saw someone died that way in china or korea or something and also biting into a banana or food in general and i bite into a bug like a spider or something
>A-ANON, is...is it okay for you, someone like me? You can choose someone better than me, you know?.
>>153936994You have very schizophrenic fears anonStop going to gore sites, its bad for you
>>153936897That's the point, she is light and color. He is darkness.
>>153936927Forgottenatha
>>153937027He is also very stupid
What's with the gummi guy
>>153936948Goose's muddled, cruel, self-indulgent vision made the art worse. Artists are flawed human people and there are limits to auteur theory. The fact that design-by-committee and executive interference tend to make shitty art do not mean that no artist could benefit from collaboration, a check on their ego, or a different perspective.
>>153937046I think its a bot
>>153937009look, it COULD happen and i still use my toilet and i still eat food and i still go to the store. its just one of those things i think about (not often)
>>153937046Retarded ritualposter (possible bot), don't mind whatever it is
>>153937049Not every ending needs be a happy or optimistic, watch more shit than just cartoons.>>153937061It could on the same way a asteroid could faill into your room right now and immediately vaporize you to atoms
>>153937027>Jax is a Nigger
>>153937079thanks for giving me something new to think about
>>153936993Well that's what I first thought, but I think I may have autism or something lol
>>153937055That's very thematic.
>>153937049Hardcore episode 9 defenders (people who think there's genuinely nothing wrong with it, not merely people who think it was good overall) remind me of Star Wars prequel defenders. And that comparison is gonna be even more apt when Goose sells the rights to Glitch to make sequels that are so bad we long for The Cuck Toilet.
who in the circus do YOU want to BLOW KINGER?
Tbqh there is people on this thread rn that are way worse than Jax>>153937089Anon....>>153937098Thats pretty true, idk why someone would waste effort and computer space to run a fucking bot here of all places tho
>>153937112kinger
funnybunny drawing requests?
>>153937079NTA but i like a lot of sad/bittersweet endings, this one just wasn't a good one
>>153937079>Not every ending needs be a happy or optimistic, watch more shit than just cartoons.Cool, thanks for both putting words I didn't say and making condescending assumptions about me instead of addressing the actual point.
>>153937133pomni calling jax a disgusting freak and turning him down to go hang out with the others while he cries and abstracts
>>153937129Kinger is gonna give himself the sloppy toppy to his own Kingaling?
Ragatha makes me smile so hard whenever i see new official images of her
>>153936886This game over is the most interesting ending.And yeah obviously he could have turned his life around that’s the whole tragedy.
>>153937133Draw them kissing>>153937134You can debate that and why you didnt like it, but i think the issue arises when most of your complains are just " the end made me sad and i dont like that :'(("
>>153937136rude
>>153937079>Not every ending needs be a happy or optimisticLol Goose tried to make it happy and optimistic and it was totally soured by the Jax thing
>>153936927I will never forget you.
>>153937155Well it's theme and messages or aura and hype so i dunno what'd you prefer
>>153937008N-n-nobody can see this, right?
>>153937163Guy just learning what bittersweet is for the first time:
>>153937149yeah
>>153937133If you're open to debauchery, Choking. If not, jax picking her up in a kind of teasing way
>>153937136Sure they will be. Jax will become another character to post cuck jokes about like Krillin and Deku. He even became a dog to add to the humiliation. Hall of Famer Cuck.
>>153936572sauce???? did you do this edit?
>>153937176it was more bitter than sweet
>>153937133Suit Jax princess carrying Pomni in a marriage dressand a alt version where Pomni carries Jax instead, if it isnt too much to ask
>>153937156You're pretending the "complains" are that the ending was sad because that's much easier to refute than the actual problems people have been stating with it for a week
>>153937155Good writing = executing authorial intentionGoose’s intention was to convey a message, among other things.Therefore, there is no contradiction between good writing and themes/messages.>inb4 but it wasn’t good tho
Apparently the reason why women (female) like Jax is because he's the Tumblr sexy man
>>153937204Im addressing what the guy i was responding to said not every argument that people ever made at once
>>153937173Of course not, Jax.Just Caine and Bubbles with their camera.
>>153937209The reason why women like Jax is because he's tall (bonus, he's an asshole)
>>153937209I thought Caine was the Tumblr sexyman.
>>153937209"That's funny considering what happens to him."
>>153937197Was posted on the last thread with no link, probably came from xitter
>>153937204NTA but what actual complaints? Most of the complaints are admitting they don’t understand what they’re seeing or are hyperfixated on an interpretation that is clearly not the intention of the story.
>>153937176An aperitivo is bitter and sweet. The ending was more like sardines mixed with ice cream.
>>153937223Yeah, exactly>>153937224I don't know man, that's just what they told me
>>153937176Bittersweet doesn't mean tastes like cheap warm diet soda with a tablespoon of shit mixed in.
>>153937231Biblically accurate events if you will
>>153937049But it’s crystal clear and has a strong moral compass.
>>153937207>Good writing = executing authorial intentionSo how the audience perceives it doesn't matter at all? Communication isn't a two-way street now?
>>153937237Have you heard of death of the author? Most people can tell pretty easily what the intention is, and not just because Gooseworx has explicitly stated it. The intention of the author isn't the only valid interpretation, because storytellers can fuck up, and that's what happened here. That's why so many people have different interpretations, not because they're dumber than you.
Schizo theory: Ribbit is secretly Jax's mother and doesn't know this.
>>153937238>>153937248your bad food analogies means nothing for this discussion you know that right>>153937254in like 90% of the cases yeah it doesn't matter in the slightest, we only started thinking what fans think matter more recently because of social media and fandoms at best you can say the creator did a bad job at communicating the intetion of the message, but i think that you gotta be an actual idiot to not see the message of TADC considering how fucking obvious it is
>>153937280>we only started thinking what fans think matter more recently because of social media and fandomsThis is fucking bullshit and you know it
>>153937280>your bad food analogies means nothing for this discussion you know that rightBecause you're too autistic to understand metaphors?
>>153937278Oedipus Jax
>>153937176Kek gottem>>153937254The audience is an amorphous blob of different perspectives. The perspectives that can handle the content/intention of the episode matter. The perspectives that can’t do not. That’s how you get watered down corposlop marvel shit trying to appeal to every tom dick and harry.
>>153937280>in like 90% of the cases yeah it doesn't matter in the slightest, we only started thinking what fans think matter more recently because of social media and fandomsLmao
ragpom doodlealso bonus pomhttps://files.catbox.moe/vrf5y4.PNG
>>153937301Part of an artist's job is communication. If the majority of people don't get what they're saying (or rather what they think they're saying), they communicated poorly.
>>153937291its really not, before the internet changing your shows ending because of fan outcry or opinions was considered ultra hacky
>>153937270>Most people can tell pretty easily what the intention isI wish bro, because there have been several walls of text that are eagles flying the ring to mordor level complaints or straight up angrily insisting a depiction of tragedy is an endorsement of tragedy, or are hallucinating Goose just making goonfuel for themselves or having personal vendettas against their favs. It’s exhausting to see middle school level reactions here.
>>153937322Sometimes the fans really are just that stupid, TADC couldn't be more obvious sorry
>>153937177
>>153937342>hallucinating Goose just making goonfuel for themselves
>>153937344the succ KING!!!!!!!!!!!
>>153937308P-pomni feet.....
>>153937327>doesn't know about Arthur Conan Doyle bringing Sherlock back due to fan demand and countless other cases
Goose made a big mistake of trying to make a cartoon with a message in the era of loreslop Everything must be Marvel and FNaF now
>>153937322Loud minority getting filtered and screaming over it isn’t a failure of the show. If anything it proves it really went for something.
>>153937342People aren't saying that a depiction of tragedy is an endorsement of tragedy, they're saying that the way it's depicted fucked up the message the tragedy was supposed to convey
>>153937355the Kingaling ain't sucKING itself
>>153937342>a depiction of tragedyNothing tragic about the best thing to happen to that Circus.
>>153937172it's not a mutually exclusive thing you knowif you're a good enough writer you can have hype and aura, a good them and message, AND good writing
>>153937308Neat.>>153936614
>>153937357I did not say it didnt happen, i said it was hacky as fuck (and still is)
>>153937363Basically this. Cartoonfags wanted Adventure Time and got something more adult instead.
>>153937368sucKING as usual I see!
>>153937364>People disliking it proves it's good!
>>153937297I've said this before but the autoerotic asphyxiation has to be amazing in the circus, especially since you can't die
the abstractions are merely in a different plane of existance... goose read the rose of the world and is gonna reference it heavily in season 2 and also make reference to my favorite anime/manga (me good taste)
>>153937136I'm not entirely sure what the endgame for Goose was with this, like what lesson were we supposed to take awayFans of nearly every character are pissed off in different ways
>>153937384We just need glitch to make a separate gravity falls inspired cartoon that never ends for these people to go away and leave actual stories with us>>153937400I like to believe theres a afterlife in the circus even if it doesnt make much sense
>>153937363Goose encouraged loresloppers to flock to it with how its world was presented from the very first episode, and no one has a problem that the cartoon has a message. No reactions (well, very few) are saying "you should open up and accept other people's help? Fuck Goose for telling me what to do!"
>>153937366Many people are saying many things. But in that case I’ve yet to see an argument that properly justifies that position. Either they don’t believe a person like Jax could exist and in that case I’m very happy for the lack of grief in their lives or they think that Jax regretting his irreversible mistake earns him a get out of jail free card.
>>153937418There is an afterlife in the Circus. It's called abstraction.
>>153937390Dumb frogposter
i cant stop eating dollar tree cookies
>>153937433>or they think that Jax regretting his irreversible mistake earns him a get out of jail free card.This one is always the craziest to me lmfaoThats like saying you regret jumping off a 23 floor building when you are already in the air>>153937448No i mean like actual heaven
>>153937431The lore is window dressing that you can headcanon and theorize into what is the most interesting to you.
Sausage Party is a masterpiece because the author wanted the convey a message about belief and religion influencing people's lives
>>153937155This obsession with themes and messages is what killed entertainment media.Before Steven universe, themes and messages were the subtext of the story while the context of the story was in the front, now themes and lessons have taken the place of actual stories and skip the story completely in favor of mediocre moralists lessons.To act like tadc is good because muh messages is retarded, nobody needs to be told that burning bridges is bad, people that are actually going to burn them aren't going to stop because of a cartoon faggot rabbit, if anything the lesson that people should take from this show is to go help that useless cunt because they aren't going to do anything for themselves.Since steven universe authors think they are so wise and so much more intelligent than the audience that we need to be told to be hecking good or else, its just pseud and narcissism disguised as media literacy.Well written stories tell two stories, the context, the surface stuff and then subtext which is the themes and messages.I hate modern media moral faggotry so much.
>>153937469No it isn't. C&A is a real company and what they were doing, which was slowly revealed and hinted with breadcrumbs, was fundamental to the nature of the predicament and the challenge the characters faced in the last episode.
>>153937473So true>>153937451Havent seen that many TADC frogs now thinking about itThey really lost their place for soijaks as the annoying 4chan larper meme didnt they
Cuddling and kissing Ragatha
>>153937469That's trying to have your cake and eat it too, anon.
>>153937504uhh... then what?
>>153937473Sausage Party is intended to be a raunchy grossout comedy which it succeeds at, for the audience who wants that niche, it’s recommendable.
I'm going to watch it at my local kinoplex next week. Will it be kino?
>>153937473It was hecking trying to expose a higher class being sadistic cannibals eating innocent people you chud.
>>153937487>This obsession with themes and messages is what killed entertainment media.
What if abstractions are like the Heartless and and the abstracted just have Nobodies are just running around on their own secret portion of the Circus that's sectioned off
>>153937487Watch more movies, read more books.
your season 2 cast
>>153937513
>>153937536Well i would think so, its called kinoplex afterall
>>153937487I partly disagree. I think you're putting too much of the blame on stories trying to have morals, which practically all stories do just because of human nature and why we tell them. The problem is just where they're didactic, insincere or poorly executed. Or if the message it's trying to sell in the first place is a bad one, but that's a separate issue.
>>153937553mating press dragon. throw the mannequin in a woodchipper feet first. have drinks with the rest
>>153937280>>153936948>>153937301That's bullshit.Telling stories is a way of communicating with the audience. If you do it well, you can make them experience something that they will enjoy. What the audience feels is the most important thing. The only important thing, at the end of the day.
Is Jaxfag schizo dead or just avoids spoilers? It's worrying there is no longer any Jaxfag who gets mad at "gummicucks" and imply thet all of them is a single person.
Would TADC had worked better as a non-continuity episodic cartoon? You know like all cartoons made before the 2010s.
>>153937554I don't know what could possibly need an explanation here
>>153937322The issue is goose acquired a fandom largely outside the demographic they were going for
>>153937487I feel like this is entirely ignoring the show did have a surface level story going on alongside the subtext, it's just the subtext shifted into being the primary plot as the story went on. Which y'know, tends to happen in some stories.
>>153937554what, you never seen a wire rack shelf?
>>153937581>Is Jaxfag schizo deadprobably
>>153937565>think you're putting too much of the blame on stories trying to have moralsNo, im putting the blame on trying to pass their kindergarten tier morals above telling a story.Like i said a good story tells two things, the story and the subtext which is where themes and messages used to be found in every good form of media ever made.
>>153937504Nobody ever...
>>153937553>adventures involving competitions with the season 1 cast vs the season 2 cast>Dealing with a whole new host of problems>Fishguy in love with Ragatha despite her already being in a relationship with Pomni(for extra drama)>New villain is a virus from the internet>Dealing with failing parts on the circus>Ultimate goal is to download the circus and its members to the internet so they don't get deleted>Somehow Jax dies AGAIN with his Abstraction dog self making a big sacrifice to stay behind and hold off the virus, deleting them both forever
>>153937582Not really, although i eould like more episodes it would probably just be more bloated>>153937581Why do you want more stupid fights to happen?>>153937578This is retarded in a level that is just beyond me, no the audience does not matter that much, what they take from the story is completely different separate thing, for an author what matters the most is its story and what is trying to tell and thats the end of it.
>>153937433>they think that Jax regretting his irreversible mistake earns him a get out of jail free card.If the issue is justice over what Jax did, making him the canine cuck toilet isn't necessary for justice to be done. Besides the fact that he was obviously already suffering mentally because of the things he did and the situations he was put in, besides all the time he already spent as an abstraction and the emotional agony of the scene with Pomni, they could have made unabstraction a long and painful process. Maybe even have him making specific restitutions to the people he hurt who are still there. THAT would be a good metaphor for atoning for your mistakes.
>>153937585>>153937599Where the FUCK are the items that were on the shelf, Anon?!Who stole them?!
>>153937598And that is exactly the problem with tadc yes.We were first presented with an interesting cast in a interesting situation with the possibility of exploring many different things but it shifted into cheap therapy lesson for 60% of the series.
>>153937624If the audience doesn't even matter why even try to have one, why not just write things for yourself and never publish them? Isn't fiction an exercise in empathy?
>>153937608If the problem is that they're unsubtle, because they're no longer subtext, that would fall under being didactic like I mentioned later in the post.
>>153937625Its not about justice, its not about what he deserved, its the path he chose for himselfStop moralizing this
>>153937278But I do, so I make it so they get the hots for each other and drop the trvth nvke while he's balls deep.
>>153937636i saw a could of negas running that way
>>153937570Dragon can DO mating press but she is NOT a sub!!! Goodness. Expecting ROYALTY to not take charge?????
>>153937578You can’t please everyone, especially if you go for something more than generic hollywood slop. Goose loves Evangelion and cited it as an inspiration. People hate that show as fiercely as they love it.Your boomer dad isn’t going to like your favorite cartoon, an average woman isn’t going to like a harem romcom anime. Maybe most people can agree that Star Wars is good, but not everything is that.
i wish Zooble cried more that would be hot
>>153937645>stop moralizing the moral of the story
How much money will it make?My cousin said she will go see it with me
>>153937660ok, but you cannot stop me or anybody from imagining it
>>153937582That's pretty much how tadc worksn though.Jax arc is the only thing that has continuity.
>>153937657We both know Jax and Ribbit no longer have hands to steal, Ragathot.....Wait a minute..... ZOOBLE! GANGLE! YOU GUYS WERE BROWN!!!!
>>153937636Ragatha's got a deep, dark crevice, Anon.
>>153937625He earned his horrible fate by refusing to fight for anything else, the inverse of Ted who earned his fate by doing something truly worth fighting for.
>>153937645I'm not the one who moralized it. The anon I was responding to was using the language of "earning" a way to get out of "jail." They were saying Jax's regret isn't sufficient to be forgiven for what he did.
doesnt jax know? we love girls with flat chests here and he woould have been perfect
>>153937669Jax deserving or not is not the moral of the storyThat was the ending he chose for himself by not letting others connect with him and the ending everyone that does the same will eventually have if they dont fix themselves >>153937695Thats fine then, still that was probably just a way of expressing the point
>>153937624Art is absolutely a form of communication my guy. Always has been.
>>153937675It will be like the ATHF movie in that because the production budget was a shoestring and pocket lint and zero dollars were spent on advertising every dollar they make is pure cash profit and it will be easy to score a box office win even if it flops spectacularly.
>>153937675Enough for glitch to produce several pilots that flop for a couple of years and goose to fuck of for a while but not enough to never need tadc again and will continue to milk it and ruin any good faith the series has left.
And then he abstracted himself into a dog. They call him Cuckdog Jax. Funniest shit I've ever seen.
>>153937455yo, jung-lite. what does anon's dietary choice say about him?>>153937456
>>153937709The communication is mostly passive between author and fan, aside from sending messages to your favorite author he is not actually supposed to take account what their fans are thinking of all of the time when writing something99% of the times the communication will be only author towards fan and no vice versa
>>153937680CURSES! Foiled again.....
>>153937729Kaufmo's jokes always crack me up.
the best part of the finale will be the emergence of punkgatha fanart
>>153937455More like fraud.
>>153937433Jax haters once again proving that they're dickhurt tranniesJax was the best character and the glue that held TADC together His ending was dogshit and if a good writer wroted it they'd give him the ending he deserves
>>153937752He deserved that ending though.
>>153937737Yes, it's mostly one-way communication. The point isn't that authors should be taking a bunch of fan feedback, it's that the reaction of their intended audience is a way to tell how effective the art was.
>>153937745i should try to draw punk ragatha and her mom looking on in disapproval...actually i got the perfect scenario, ragatha's mom taking ragatha to a hot topic lmao
>>153937740>>153937680wait wrong file.real reaction.
>>153937752>hallucinating a false motivation from me>vaguely implying that a tragic character who won’t change can’t end tragically because he won’t changeI hope you’re trolling
>>153937161I'd go down his rabbit hole
>>153937675You should have sex with her
>>153937581Here he is >>153937752
>>153937766dont you feel STUPID? i bet it matches how you look!!
>>153937780Tell us your thoughts on SOMA
>>153937737 (me)Thats why its called a message, the author is trying to tell you something about the world, yourself or other ideas with that book/game/show and its your job to interpret that storyline and absorb whatever messaging it was trying to pass or that you found in the writingOtherwise it would be a conversation>>153937761I wasnt saying that the message cannot be displayed improperly or badly, but that in most cases authors should and will focus only on what they are writing
>>153937745I’m hype for the Ragapom surge personally
>>153937790I already haveWe had an on and off hookup situation going on until a pregnancy scare/abortion happened a year agoWe never spoke of it again
>>153937136>Message is to be vulnerable and lean on others>Make main two characters a guy who doesn't do that and a girl who doesn't need to learn thatBravo Goose
>>153937799Not necessary and rushed at the beginning, but didn’t hurt the end product much.
i am Princess Loolilalu's strongest warrior
>>153937800>I wasnt saying that the message cannot be displayed improperly or badly, but that in most cases authors should and will focus only on what they are writingOkay then I guess we don't disagree on anything. Although I think it can also be useful to have beta readers or other people you trust/respect who you can show you art to before you publish it.
>>153937553
>imbliggening authors and readers aren't having a conversation spanning years or even centuries
>>153937818Damn, based
>>153937818Better be at least three degrees here.
So what did we learn today?
>>153937818Babykiller
>>153937818
>>153937800 (me)Going back to my original point, Goose should not change her ending just because some people here are upset that jax died.What matters the most is what she wrote about this story and what her original vision of it is.If she did a good job at displaying this message in the final arc is a different story, i think she did but others might disagree.>>153937865Never trust the boogieman
>>153937849That's the fish that was making out with his pillow in his truck
>>153937793CONNNNNNNGRATULATIONS!YOU CHOSE THE FUCKING STUPID IDIOT DRAGON ENDING!THIS IS THE ENDING WHERE THE FUCKING STUPID IDIOT DRAGON MADE A BIG WHOOPSY POOPSIE OVER YOUR DINGALING AND NOW THE IMAGINARY VERSION OF HER IN YOUR HEAD IS DEAD!YOUR PRIZE IS THIS BASKET FULL OF NEGA WORD PASSES!
>>153937865Nothing, same as always.
>>153937877>Going back to my original point, Goose should not change her ending just because some people here are upset that jax died.Absolutely agree. The reason Goose should change the ending is because it would be better if she changed it.
Women should lust more.
>>153937624>>153937737The story is only meaningful when someone experiences it, and you need other people for that.That's why you communicate it. It's one-way, and you don't get to choose how they feel about it, but whatever they feel is still what matters.
>>153937865Eat something before you start drinking vodka
>>153937835I was thinking about Jax and Caine since Pomni has barely anything going for her, but that works too kek
https://static1.e621.net/data/d8/ad/d8adb119ae8d49b7002166a0f4969d8d.jpg
>>153937818>Jaxdogs are incestuous baby killersThey're just like real dogs...
>>153937865i think i forgot things actually
>>153937884Hate it when that happens
>>153937865Themes and Suchhemesuch
>>153937919>e621You Just Know.
>>153937879she's not a pillow she's a DOLL!!!
>>153937919This stinks
>>153937865The mature way to approach art is to receive what the author is transmitting and then contemplating it, rather than donning the role of co-author in your head and being upset when the real author isn’t you.
>>153937865Midwits are easily pleased.
>>153937911Vehemently disagree, what matters the most is what the author thinks the message should be, what the audience will intepret of this is a different story.But trying to "fix up" your story to appease audiences is how we got shit like modern Hollywood having Marvel tier levels of safe writing.Sometimes you gonna upset some fans and that is completely fine.
>>153937856>>153937859>>153937868>>153937872Look, it's in the past and I have been forgiven by christNo need to overreact, we were in our 20s, wild things happen
>>153937934Yeah.... At least you got the Nega Word passes!
>>153937865Flashbang.
>>153937663Obviously you can't please everybody, but nobody even implied that was the goal.I'm not sure who they were trying to please with this one though.
>>153937919Im not clicking that
>>153937865This circus sucks, I'm just like gonna fap.
>>153937952That's what Kit's saying lol
>>153937972Dumb frogposter
Is Ragatha gay and attracted to tall women?
>>153937972Don’t be flippant about it, but I’m happy you’ve found God.
i-i clicked it...
>>153937983It's just gameovercat spreading pomni's cheeks.
Can you imagine the smell of Gangle's ribbon pussy.
>>153937982>I'm not sure who they were trying to please with this one though.Me, because i liked it :)
>>153937930I forgot I had the Kaufmo name on kek, but you know, it kind of adds to the post I feel like.
>>153937961What if you receive it, contemplate it, and decide it's not very good?
>>153937865Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die. Come watch your favorite GLITCH shows on YouTube and don't forget to visit the GLITCH store to support our shows!
Caine's redemption arc was pretty damn rushed and out of nowhere, but it did tug at my heartstrings to see him finally "bound" to the earth by seeing him actually having to walk and run instead of just floating everywhere.
Only my authorial intent matters, I will now publish my masterpiece where I masturbate in front of a mirror and then shid myself.
>>153937996>Is Ragatha gayYes, but she didn't learn that about herself until Pomni
>>153937392too bad the only one that couldve been interested in that died before the sex update
>>153937865It's okay to suck cock if you're not gay.
>>153938011Thats fine
>>153938008get a whiff and it will make you tear up like you just got bear maced
>>153938015I agree completely. It wasn't *enough* but what was there was good.
>>153938018Sounds better than TADC's ending
>>153938015I adore Caine and I'm glad he got a change at redemption. It was rushed as fuck but seeing him being treated like a friend and equal like he always wanted really made me happy.
>>153938029And what if you then ponder how it could have been better?
>>153938025I mean, everyone already knew.
>went on a walk to the store>saw the Evil Ragatha figure that one anon was looking for>walked away because I like the rest of the evil big tops moreHow has your day been, anons?
>>153937996bi probably. she did say in the burger episode she wished SOMEONE would flirt with her.
>>153938015I adore caine but i gotta say the 30 minute uninterrupted sex scene with Moon was a tad out of place
>>153936922
>>153938011Then you can articulate yourself in a reasonable manner, first from the common ground of what it was trying to accomplish, and then suggesting how it failed to meet that end.If you cannot accurately start from what it was trying to accomplish, and your alterations do not add to that intention, then the error is your perception.Or you could decide it isn’t for you and move on.
>>153937930Get over yourself, kaufagShe wasn't even attractive, she's like 350lb but I was going through a dry spell ever since I broke up with my ex
>>153936572all these happy adventure images seem disgusting now, because it's all in the context of Jax's horrible death after he tells pomni he loves her and is screming for help
>>153938059Zooble doing a dance on the back
>>153938058It's literally the best scene of the show. I especially appreciated the part where he pissed on her.
Can you imagine the smell of Evil Gangle's ribbon pussy.
>>153938015Jax themes and such was more important.
>>153936922That's a boring and smelly dyke...
>>153938075That just makes it so much worse.
Evil gangle hates anime
>>153938051i got my evil ragatha figurine finally, so im doing quite fine
>>153938075Why would I care if your own cousin was attractive or not? You committed incest.
>>153938026Once I get in there I'll crank one out in his honor
>>153938058I'm really looking forward to the moon's scene in English.
>>153938109Bet she would love and defend the boys ending.
Evil Gangle isn't real. There's only Evil Orbsman.
>>153938059How was your toy anon
>>153938127>CrankNo..... Not the monkey.... Don't do that to Crank....
>>153938128You should!!!!! Its so cute
>>153938140Oh yeah? Then explain this totally real screencap.
>>153938052>Pommi is trying to connect with Gummigoo.>Ragatha gets jealous and says Pommi prefers being with the NPCs instead of her.She couldn't be more gay.
>>153938100>Bi-goddess who pulled Pomni and me*
>>153938116Because my actions were purely done as a FUCKING SURVIVAL TACTICI swear you fans are retardedI needed sex, and she was the closest one to me
>>153938075>She wasn't even attractive, she's like 350lbOh that is so much less based and hot than i originally thought
>>153938075>>153938116Yeah wtf did that have to do with it
>>153938109Evil Gangle loves vanillaGangle loves NTR, mind break rape incest guro uhh all those nasty tags on sadpanda
>>153937849
I was going to ask what is it about Jax that attracts the most mentally ill people, but I really don't need to.
>>153938167And she just accepted sex like that?
>>153938145That is FIRMLY in the “not art made for you” territory. The mature approach is to not engage with it, and engage with what is for you instead. Freedom of expression in art is a higher ideal than your personal feelings.
>>153938167You don't need sex to survive
Evil gangle loves everything i hateThats fine tho i still love her
>>153937582It was unironically this before episode 6.
>>153938191truke. a man only needs eggs and water
>>153938160>some fan made a whole Evil Gangle 3D modelOkay, that's pretty cool.
>>153938160What's evil Jax mindscape like? What does he think of everyone?
>>153937968>what matters the most is what the author thinks the message should be, what the audience will intepret of this is a different story.No, absolutely not.As I said, a story only exists when you experience it. It's literally in the mind of the audience as they interpret the incoming text. The audience *will* experience *something* regardless of what the author thinks. That something is the story for them. No 2 people experience the exact same thing.Whatever the author thinks is pretty much irrelevant to the audience after the deed is done. It wouldn't make sense to say>what you experienced isn't valid because I said so
>>153938074What if the reason you decide it's not very good is because what it's trying to accomplish was bad? Like you read Atlas Shrugged and say "this was effective propaganda for an extremely harmful economic and political ideology and therefore not very good art"
>>153937582It would have been something else, and I probably would have liked that something else. Better? Hard to say.
>>153938189Holy shit criticizing it doesn't mean he doesn't want it to exist, you have such a limited view of things that it's exhausting
A man only need eggs, water and pomni
>>153937849>>153938173cuties hiding cuz you wanna be included
>>153937473I refuse to ackowledge the series for ignoring the "Everyone goes to the real world to confront their voice actors" ending.
>>153938167Sex is not a survival tactic, you Jaxcel. Please let this be a troll.
>>153938189How does me criticizing art hamper the artist's freedom of expression? And what if you engage with art before realizing it has a bad message? Should you not be allowed to criticize it even then? Because that seems to be the actual principle that would hamper people's freedom here.
What if we split pomni in 2 other pomnis so we had 3 pomnis
>>153938191Ok, dumbass let me spell it out for you Imagine you're in a dessert, it's hot and you're sweating profusely, desperate to quench your thirstYou see a puddle, it's thick, slimy and a little diseased... But it's still waterSo you drink, and the heat madness makes you thirsty for more because without it, you'd dieThat's life, champBetter get used to it
>>153938215That is not a position of mine, you made that up in your own head. My view is far less limited.
>>153938217Ragatha says this, and she applies it ti herself because she is a woMAN!
I don't understand people defending the ending. It was just a poorly presented finale, regardless of themes, messages or intent.
>>153938209He sees them all as great people to the point of it feeling like a family and has genuinely fallen in love with Evil Pomni, but is too scared to confront her.
>>153938215NTA but alot of you people are indeed mad that the art (in this case the ending of TADC) exists rather than your idealized fanfic version of it
The ending was bad?
>>153938206https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJQ1-dqMO0YYeah, they also redid the scene with her.
>>153938231Yeah for some reason some individuals can't tolerate criticism and act like its a human right violation.
>>153938240>t.i would edit it to say "MY COUSIN" but im too lazy
>>153938240But you would actually die if you didn't drink water in the desert. You wouldn't die if you didn't have sex.
>>153937543What would happen if you brought Foxmauk and Tixbirb and Jaxx and the like to the cuckquarium?
>>153938252Not saying YOU specifically are doing that but alot of people in this thread are
>>153938240>thick, slimy and a little diseasedYour cousin needs to see a doctor
>>153938209It seems that Evil Jax tries too hard to be a good person, every word he says feels very forced, I think Evil Jax's psyche would be even more disturbing.
Refund status?
>>153938254Ass, even
>>153938258lol
>>153938286This shit was in fact so ass
>>153938255>Gangle fans do this>Jax fans do their cousins and childrenOnce again another reset the clock moment for animechads.
I could have not had sex in 67 years i would still not have sex with my cousinYou do yoy tho
>>153938247Don't ask questions, just consume and get excited for the next product.
>>153938286>>153938290I like ass
Gangle... I'll die if you don't have sex with me... don't let me die.
>>153938242You're the one who brought up freedom of expression. Anyway, this is like talking to a wall.
>>153938231Your hypothetical was about the most extreme example, “harmful art”. That line of thinking leads to decisions like censorship, and your extreme example necessitated an extreme clarification. Even the most not for you art possible has an audience and may or may not be good at what it’s doing.You may criticize as you please, of course, but if you want to criticize it effectively you must do this: >>153938074
>>153938271holy
>>153938296Kissing cousins are fair game
>>153938301Gangle...
>>153938301Okay, die.
>>153938240>Jax fumbled Ribbit and Pomni so badly that he had to resort to cousin fuckingGrim
Gangle im just a thirsty little purple bun that will die of dehydration if you dont piss on me, please gangle i need this
Game theory: Jax schizo is just a Ragatha stand baiting anons
ribbit conjuring a dick would've unironically saved jax
Can you believe she's already sent two men to their graves?
>>153938301same energy
>>153938242Bro you said you shouldn't engage with art that's "not for you" because "freedom of personal expression is a higher ideal than your personal feelings." How else can someone take that other than acting on your personal feelings goes against their freedom of expression somehow?
Neat
I'm gonna dress up as Pomni. Meet me in the womens bathroom after the midnight showing of the movie at the AMC. I'm black if that's cool with you! ^__^
Average Jaxfag be like without calling them attractive https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULPwkpCy_-8
>>153937209He is really not.
>>153938333>Jax is dead
>>153938329See>>153938311
Wow, I can't believe that the YouTube release will be different with extended scenes and alternative ending. Goose does it again!
>>153938334can i bring mt ragatha plush and my ragatha plush keychain and my ragatha moose toys plush and also my other ragatha plush keychain?
>>153938334Why is she colored like that? That's not black skin that's genuinely sewer water color.
>>153938334Omg it's Pomnig!amc wha-?like the channel?
>>153938342Thats not jax thats luigi
>Cousin Jaxine, you have to have sex with me, please! I'll fucking suck your tits, I'll eat your fucking shit
Reminder that they advertised a popcorn bucket at the end of a fucking movie.
>>153938360Kek
>>153938356Well duh, dead people can't snowboard.
>>153938325
>>153938362they knew it was gonna leak.....
>>153938143It hugged me nice and tight and made me feel like I was loved
>>153938340Actually yes he is, even ends up like every.Tumbler sexy man (trans and suicided)
>>153938362It's the authorial intent you philistine
>>153938352Theres more than one shade of black/brown that humans are able to have
>drawing Pomni (and guest) for the first time>sketchin'>hey the sketch looks preddy gud>do lineart, hide sketch layers>uh oh>uh, maybe it'll look better with color>fuckI'm sure detail and shading will save it, right guys?
>>153937209>"...the tumblr sexyman."
>>153938373Nice
>>153938345>the extended scene is a flashback of Jax having sex with his cousin that Pomni can't take her eyes off of
>>153938380You can just use your sketch as the final lineart, just do some cleaning with the eraser
>>153938334You're a boy, right? Are you going to dress up as a pomni?
im so fucking hungry..
>>153937554They're at a Tescos
If Glitch was smart, they would've advertised a Gangle fleshlight at the end.
>>153938311I didn't advocate censorship. I also not only didn't dispute that "not for you" art can be good at what it's doing; I explicitly stated it was good at what it was doing. So I don't know why you feel the need to point that out.>criticize it effectively you must do this: >>153938074That's the issue, because that says the only way to criticize it is to say it's ineffective. Not only can you criticize art for doing something bad, but that's more important than how effective it is. Masterfully made, spellbinding art that advocates evil is worse than amateurish, unoriginal art that advocates good.
>>153937400What is that?
>>153938378Why are you seething
>>153938410That's the message.
Why is jax considered the tumblr sexyman when kinger exist.
If Glitch was smart, they would've advertised a Ragatha sex doll at the end.
>>153938334What are the odds of meeting a Blagatha cosplayer?
reminder to all the anons OD'ing on "alternate ending" copium: the only alt ending we'd even get would be one where Jax becomes Jaxine and everyone accepts and forgives him (including Ribbit, somehow) and wants to suck his dick while telling him he's the prettiest princess they ever did see
>>153938362They were so confident in the movie they assumed people would see it twice>>153938430Definitely nonzero
>>153938396I lost my appetite pretty hard so I'm going to force myself to eat something tasty.
>>153938380just do what i do and wing itdont wing it im a terrible artist
>>153938430As close to zero that it may as well be.
The ending be like>We are here to mounr our dear jax, his life work and legacy will be forever remembered....THROUGH THIS SICK NEW MERCHANDISE THAT YOU CAN BUY AT LEACH.COM AVAILABLE FOR A LIMITED TIME
>>153937582Yes. That is why I was hoping for a spin off or prequel.
Ragatha
>>153938430Hopefully high
>>153938452I'm genuinely really curious what finale Jax merch they're gonna make.
>>153938405In that case then you are criticizing it as an outsider and should consider your audience. If you go to the star trek club and start talking about star trek is harmful gay commie shit, you’ll probably fall on deaf ears and be considered obnoxious, your critique will not be effective at dismantling the effects of the “harmful art”.Not that any of this pertains to the amazing digital circus.
>>153938456why is tadc so oddly futa-coded
>>153938475Its after the credits.
>>153938477No one has any genitals so you can imagine anything you like
>>153938477Because you are disconnected from reality
>>153938260They'd probably feel some sort of innate connection to their other half and perhaps reach out to them, touching the glass. A compulsion fueled by a subconscious yearning to be whole again Damnit, now i kinda want art of Jax, Kaufmo, and Ribbit hanging out in Org coats now
>>153938475Dog bowls and chew toys
>>153938462More like DRAGATHA, as in DRAG her THA hell away!!
>>153937968Trying to write a story to appease audiences is what the process of writing is usually. Not every audience, just some of them.
>>153938475Abstracted merch if they didnt alreadyEmbarassed bowjaxJax with very big disassociation eyesLooney tunes jax
>>153938477Take a wild guess
>>153938477because of shit like trans jax, masc pomni, zooble, etc.
>>153938477trans-coded
>>153938499Most of the times you are writing for yourselfYou can write for audiences but if its solely for audiences the ending result will be shallow
>>153938477I'm a full blown futafaggot and honestly none of them really click as futas for me except maybe ragatha
>>153938476>In that case then you are criticizing it as an outsider and should consider your audience. If you go to the star trek club and start talking about star trek is harmful gay commie shit, you’ll probably fall on deaf ears and be considered obnoxious, your critique will not be effective at dismantling the effects of the “harmful art”.Your post didn't say anything about who the audience of the criticism was. It was talking completely generally. And so am I.
>>153938333
>>153938452I will buy Ragatha stuff now that I know she didn’t get fucked over in the end.
>>153937818Yooo wtf.
>>153938514Oh yeah, I forgot there were retards that believed this.
>>153936869Except on Bojack they knew a suicide ending is bullshit, especially for an asshole character, because narratively it just means they escape their problems while throwing themselves a pity party and leaving everyone else to clean up the mess
>>153938536They dont seem to be enjoying themselves that much
incest is pertinent to the amazing digital circus given the canon geographical location of where the events of this show happen
>>153938334it's fine, I'm also black
>>153938475
>>153938556It takes place in Pakistan?
>>153938544Bojack is way worse than Jax was
>>153938430most black women that watch this show are Ragatha and Zooble fans so probably high
>>153938475Abstraction doggy with a Jax tag and a Zooble arm leash
>>153938520really? ragatha is the least futa-coded to me.
>>153938563i wish, those people know how to party!
>>153938563Worse. Alabama.
Remember that girl Jax drove to suicide 20 minutes ago?
>>153938552Lack of aggression
Pomni is the most futa coded character of the main cast
>>153938482>abstracted versions of every characterThat's a clever way not to spoil anything. And picrel isn't distasteful. So I guess I Glitch doesn't have to come to school tomorrow
>>153937115>Tbqh there is people on this thread rn that are way worse than JaxThere are people in my office that are way worse than Jax, if he was supposed to be a malignant asshole Goose didn’t go nearly far enough
>>153938456>balde de pipoca
I've heard rough estimates that the leaked cut is about "80%" done. I don't know how true that is, but given how choppy the editing seems and how many effects look like they're unfinished, I believe it.That could be good news, bad news, or a total nothing burger, depending on what that other "20%" constitutes.
>>153938519Professional writers write for their audience. There's nothing wrong with that and it doesn't mean everything is marvelslop.
>>153938585Buy the popcorn bucket you can't use to see the movie!
Futa Pomni missionary/mating press with Pomni
>>153938601I dont think he was supposed to be, he still is a bad person but not some kind of demon
>>153938167Ok you are a troll for sure.
>>153938605>I've heardWhere, from whom
>>153938592>Pillows and the poles of the cuck tent in the backkek
>>153938605Color grading and other finishing touches
>>153937207Execution is the emulsifier, without it you got nothing
>>153938620Okay, nevermind.
>>153938605Why would they send the theaters and unfinished product anon.if it got leaked its because its was ready.
how come jaxposters and ganglegangsters get the funniest unhinged posters? why dont one of the ragathugs or pomninjas step up?
>>153938592>the cuck tent is there
>>153938523And now I’m further dialing into the conversation. If you feel the compulsion to criticize as an outsider because of the highest theoretical extreme that doesn’t apply to this show or most media, then there is an obnoxious and immature and ineffective way to handle it, and a way to do it better.Also at that point you’re not critiquing the piece as an accomplishment of itself, you are critiquing the second order effects of the work, which belongs in its own places of discussion, somewhere like /pol/ for example if you wanted to make a thread about tadc turning everyone gay or something, or /lgbt/ if you feel that the show has harmful trans representation.You’re far enough from the fan discussion of the art that it’s no longer about the thing itself primarily, and that is a different interest that have their own communities. Personally I abhor the art police who want to talk about why such and such is harmful but if that’s your jam go be together.
I'm gonna laugh when the movie comes out and Jax is fine in the end somehow
>>153938605Timing is locked in, if voice actors are doing lines the only editing you can do after that is which scenes that have zero dialogue and that's still going to fuck timing up and would require adjusting audio and subtitle tracks to account for any changes at that stage. That was it, that was the whole thing.
>I fucked up. I fucked it all up.
>>153938605>how many effects look like they're unfinishedWe had people arguing back and forth in the last thread about a flashbang because the effects were so unclear so I believe it.I heard someone said it was made to be submitted to the ratings board (meaning it'd have to be finished so it could get an age rating) but I haven't seen that source anywhere at all except a random 4chan post.
>>153938624Agreed! And that’s the point: >>153938074Some people here can do this, most have failed to do this.
>>153938489And the non-Kinger C&A programmers too?
>mfw they put in ADR saying they're working on a cure for abstraction
>>153938658She really did fuck that poor burger up.
>>153938640I don't know if this *was* sent to theaters. We don't know shit about where the hacker got it from or how.
>>153938671They are loreslop
>>153938674Goose would be the biggest sell out pussy on earth if they did this (they won’t).
>>153938585Wow. That Ribbit plush looks kind of cheap. Damn, I saw a much better one on a Chinese product site.
>>153938678pomni has sex with burgers, pass it on
>>153938658
its gonna end like kung pow where they announce a sequel and it doesnt happen
OkWhat are the odds that they'll announce season 2 of TADC after the credits?
>>153938658Pomni is happy
>>153938462lookit that elegant dress! she's so pretty
Pomni has sex with bugs, pass it on
>>153938475Whatever it is, all the goofy Glitch store page descriptions of it will just be "HAY, JAX IS A DOG NOW! GEDDIT?! JAX IS A DOG NOW! I SAID JAX IS A DOG, DIDYA GEDDIT?!"
>>153937608I think TADC has a problem in that it uses suicide to sell a child tier “power of friendship” theme, it’s like a slasher film that tries to teach you how to count to 10
>>153938689Well it was either someone in a brazil theater or the company in charge of the brazil dub.Simple as.
>>153938647>compulsion to criticize as an outsiderFirst off, gatekeeping criticism this way is stupid. You're not an "outsider" if you disagree with the message of a piece of art's message and you don't need to hesitate as if you're intruding on something before doing so.>Also at that point you’re not critiquing the piece as an accomplishment of itself, you are critiquing the second order effects of the work, which belongs in its own places of discussion, somewhere like /pol/ for example if you wanted to make a thread about tadc turning everyone gay or something, or /lgbt/ if you feel that the show has harmful trans representation.No. Art is inseparable from its message and so is criticism of it. Art can also have bad messages that aren't political or don't have communities dedicated to them.>You’re far enough from the fan discussion of the art that it’s no longer about the thing itself primarily, and that is a different interest that have their own communities. Personally I abhor the art police who want to talk about why such and such is harmful but if that’s your jam go be together.Talking about what's wrong with a piece of art does not make you "police." You're the one acting in a policing role right now by trying to silence people's criticisms or tell them where it's valid for them to put them.
>>153938566Jax's biggest crime was avoiding someone after telling them an embarrassing secret they were terrified of them spreading.
>>153938301Ragatha: I know you can do it Gangle!
>>153938708>after the credits?there was uh... no such thing so it's about a 0% for specifically after the credits.now if you mean the youtube release? who knows? MORE than 0% at least.
Pomni has sex with Bugs Bunny, pass it on.
Pomni has sex with me, pass it on
>>153938734Can I have your autograph, Mr. Bunny?
>no chocolate Pominega gfWill I ever make it like Kinger?
New thread for those who dare!>>153938712>>153938712>>153938712
>>153938718You're too right....
>>153938658I wish Pomni had a character arc
>buzzword wall of textI ain't reading all that.
>>153938721There's like 20 water marks on the screen so it obviously wasn't meant for screening, so a theater is unlikely.
>>153938717Zooble, don't make fun of Jax's penis
>>153938475Crossdressing "ironically" Jax.
>>153938693MY DICK IS LORESLOP
>>153938723>gatekeepingI’m no janitor or moderator, you are free to be as obnoxious, ineffective and immature as you wish here. The conversation was about how to do it better, not what you must do. I’m not your dad.>You're not an "outsider"If you are fundamentally opposed to the core of a work you are an outsider among the audience of that work. Otaku media being consumed by a clueless normie, or deep commie theory being analyzed by a chud, someone who hates cartoons criticizing cartoons, any such combination.>Talking about what's wrongBut that’s the thing, most of these posts aren’t talking about what is wrong, but are missing the point of the show. If your conclusions are in opposition to what was conveyed, or your solution is to “be something fundamentally different” then what’s wrong is trying to fit your square taste in a round hole shaped show and blaming the show for being round instead of square.
>>153938381For someone who doesn’t like touch and constantly withdraws from Ragatha, Pomni sure lets Jax touch her a lot
>>153938814Oh and>but I’m not doing that!Great then I’m not talking about you.
Wan Piss did it better
>>153938814>you are free to be as obnoxious, ineffective and immatureNamecalling, cool. You did it in the last post too, and you are indeed trying to get people not to do it with your loaded language like that. It's not a good faith effort to make criticisms more effective.>If you are fundamentally opposed to the core of a work you are an outsider among the audience of that work. Otaku media being consumed by a clueless normie, or deep commie theory being analyzed by a chud, someone who hates cartoons criticizing cartoons, any such combination.Being opposed to a message doesn't mean you're an outsider to it. You keep assuming that but it doesn't need to be true. Like if there's a movie that comes out, in theaters, that has a shitty message, the audience is basically Americans. If we use TADC as an example, the core audience is a certain internet-liking demographic that includes 4chan, and being opposed to anything it's putting forth (not just the core of "finding meaning in a stagnant life" or the Jax stuff) doesn't make you an outsider.>But that’s the thing, most of these posts aren’t talking about what is wrong, but are missing the point of the show. If your conclusions are in opposition to what was conveyed, or your solution is to “be something fundamentally different” then what’s wrong is trying to fit your square taste in a round hole shaped show and blaming the show for being round instead of square.I'm not talking about any posts here, nor did I ever say I was. I'm talking about the principles you put forth as effective criticism.
>>153936572What worx the goose?
>>153937166why are you black
