There are plenty of Superman but evil stories, but are there any other heroes you'd like to see "but evil" storylines about?
>>153938478No, because that would require actually giving a shit about that character and having a basic understanding about what they're about. The reason it's always Superman is because he's basic and requires ZERO effort to make an evil subversion of.
>>153938478Wonder woman. You wouldn't have to change very much.
>>153938478Evil Batman is more interesting. Imagine Patrick Bateman moonlighting as a villain and using money and power to fuck shit up.
>>153938478Nolan shouldn't be on that list because he's unironically way deeper of a character than "superman but evil"
>>153938478Spider-man
Evil Thor
>>153939052*also, bring this glorious SOB back.
>>153938478Superman but evil is passe as fuck gimmie Batman but evil. All those secondaries keeps saying Batman is a bad guy because he's a billionaire beating up the poor and mentally ill then fucking play the premise straight
>>153938732The lack of "Evil Batman" characters is disappointing. >Imagine Patrick Bateman moonlighting as a villain and using money and power to fuck shit up.I mean, you already have Nemesis. Personally, I'd like for an Evil Batman to be a deeply paranoid guy who turns his version of Gotham into a police city-state with advanced mass surveillance tech.
>>153938478>are there any other heroes you'd like to see "but evil" storylines about?Soft Serve
>>153939126Funny thing is that Batman is a bad guy billionaire people only really makes sense if they're like actual anarchists/marx-leninists because Bruce Wayne is so AoC-democrat/UKgreen coded it hurts.
>>153939126>>153938732Does the original grendel count, that's the best examples i can think of
>>153939170Thats kind of Kingdom Come Batman.
>>153939211stop posting this literal shit character nobody wants to hear about your scat fetish
>>153938478You're not gonna see a lot of other "-but evil" stories unless they're tied to a generic evil Superman (sometimes Batman).Superman's just too iconic, and some writers like to corrupt Superman as a metaphor for the US, so that's two huge reasons why it's always him and rarely anyone else.
>>153938478Spider-Man
>>153938478Robin, but while still being Batman's sidekick, not changing identities, and with Batman not knowingly being evil. A slow steady corruption where Robin manipulates Batman into taking just one tiny step further and further into darkness, until Batman has become what he hates without even knowing it.
>>153939211So like, she's enforce mutant supremacy by sitting on my face and forcing me to eat ice cream?>>153939581She doesn't actually poop ice cream. Her butthole's a portal to the ice cream dimension the same way Cyclops' eyes are a portal to the punch dimension.
>>153941851Came here to say this
>>153941851https://youtu.be/LcsOaxkNWYk?si=lXu33d6rSHTR9oAw
>>153938478Green Arrow
>>153938627It's called Wonder Woman: Earth One. She literally helps enslave all men on earth in the third book.
>>153938732Evil Batman is awful actually because it's always just an evil Mary Sue who's inexplicably omniscient and impossible to defeat (like Nemesis).
>>153938478>are there any other heroes you'd like to see "but evil" storylines about?Pretty much all of those are done already since just about every cape you can name has a counterpart with the same powers but opposite alignment.
>>153938561Fpbp
>>153942817>>153944638OP, nobody except you even cares. Kill yourself and stop bumping your lame threads.
>>153938478Power Pack.
America Chavez, Miss Marvel, any preteen brown girl boss.
>>153944779Evil Moon Girl...
>>153942776Nice
>>153942794Evil Batman would be like a spec ops slasher villain. Like the Navy SEAL dude from Don't Breathe
>>153938478I'd rather see, "But good" stories. Not only have I had enough of tearing down heroes, but culturally, moral subversion only matters when it's going the opposite way as society and using that juxtaposition to highlight the good and bad in culture. This is to say that these days, besides being overdone, "but evil" stories have nothing to say.
>>153945152Lex Luthor but good is just Jeff Bezos.
>>153945534That is saying way too much in favor of Jeff Bezos.
>>153941851Does superior count?
>>153938478Doctor Manhattan, but evil
>>153945152How many of Batman's villains have had a hero phase? Off the top of my head, Bane, Riddler, Two-Face, Harley, Clayface
Batman is already done, Wondy, Green Lantern , hawk and Green lantern too in the magazine(Hal with parallax and the nazi elseworld no less).I think Flash would look to much like All star Batman, with a notBarry forcing Wally to be his soldier against the soviet.Maybe Uncle Sam but evil fighting a notCaptain America?Would be interesting a work with different aspect of patriotism (although left and righ tard would seethe about that)
>>153945998Evil Flash would be interesting if presented in the vein of Plutonian or Nemesis, like a near unbeatable threat.
What’s a better angle for evil Daredevil a corporate lawyer or an ambulance chaser?
>>153945998I could see an evil Flash being interesting if they leaned into the Flashpoint aspect of it all. Or just any general 'time-traveler hero but evil' could be fun. I want to see an evil Booster Gold; a guy stealing accomplishments from people in the present and erasing threats to his power from the past, completely untouchable to anyone in the present. It wouldn't even be that hard to get him to the 'killing babies' phase, because that's just 'fucking with time 101.'
>>153946287>could see an evil Flash being interestingIsn't the reverse flash already evil flash?
>>153946132You could also go with a third option, divorce lawyer. It works on a thematic level too because, he’s destroying a religious institution as well as getting rich off people’s misery.
>>153946507You could also have him be a ruthless prosecutor who works with corrupt judges to fuck people’s civil liberties and put innocents in prison
>>153938478Krypto... but evil!
I've always been partial to "Slasher villain, but GOOD."
>>153946507Family court daredevil would make millions anywhere punisher decals are sold and post grunge is still on the radio
>>153946706Later seasons of Dexter ruined this concept
>>153945920I’m surprised that DC hasn’t had Joker gone through an extended hero phase. Especially since pretty much all of the big super villains have had one this past decade.
>>153946732The Savino stuff? I don't see the connection.
>>153938478Batman but evil, oh wait that's just Batman
>>153939170>turns his version of Gotham into a police city-state with advanced mass surveillance tech.... that's just real life, though.
Martian Man-hunter but evil
>>153939170>Personally, I'd like for an Evil Batman to be a deeply paranoid guy who turns his version of Gotham into a police city-state with advanced mass surveillance tech.We already got that from the batman metal event with the grim knight He's the batman who picked up the gun after joe chill killed his parents and now owns everything in gotham including the tech that can make your self driving car go off a bridge
>>153938732Or take "Bruce is constantly drawing up plans to kill the rest of the Justice League 'just in case'" and run with it. Bruce has been a mole in the team the entire time and was introduced to Lex by their mutual friend Jeffrey Epstein.
>>153938856He's "Superman but Vegeta". Like the show's Homelander is "Superman but Dennis Reynolds".
>>153938732nemesis is every bad faith criticism that batman gets for being a gary-sue made true>>153939107never cared for him but cool ass art
>>153938732So many evil Batman variants exist that are total jokes. Killer Moth, Prometheus, etc. Only one that's somewhat worked is OwlmanSad cause Killer Moth is still one of my favourite designs because of LEGO Batman lmao
>>153938478I'd like to see a full length take on Seanbaby's "Captain America but completely insane". Including a Bucky who eggs on the superhuman lunatic because he thinks this is the funniest shit and wants to see how long he can ride this tiger.
>>153938478Llsten to me, what if Punisher but good?
>>153942776Enslaves by using orgasm rays to make the men coom their wills to resist out.
>>153946467I think there's a bit of disconnect in terms of the evil versions anons are discussing.>Big 2The evil version isn't much of a threat because there are boatloads of other characters that can handle them. Reverse Flash is always gonna be beaten by Flash at the end of the day etc>indie seriesThe evil character becomes more of a threat because there usually aren't any good versions of their character in their universe. This is more interesting because you get to see how weaker characters try and stop the evil expy of a familiar character.
>>153948097garth ennis cucks will rape you for this anon, its not too late to retract this statement
>>153944779>Evil Miss Marvel goes around grabbing guys' dicks with her big hand powers
>>153938478"Evil Captain America" is a strangely untapped well given his inherently political nature as a character meant to represent America and it's "ideals". And his origin as a government created and sponsored super-soldier. Seems ripe for a subversive take
>>153938732>imagine that novel but worse and for dweebs
>>153948453he's already evil
>>153948453Didn't they just do that in Falcon and the Winter Soldier? Idk, I didn't watch it, but I seem to remember something about that.
>>153948453>>153948055
>>153938478OP, but not a faggot
>>153945534Lex Luthor but good is just Bruce Wayne
>>153947776Could be dope if done well.>sturdy enough not to be harmed by conventional means>this makes him arrogant>toys with victims via shapeshifting, phasing, and mindfuckery
>>153948515And in the Boys.
>>153938478Superman is the default here because superman is literally THE superhero.He is objectively THE default superhero.
>>153938883Isn’t evil spiderman just Venom and the rest of the symbiotes?
>>153945534>>153949225Topical with the ongoing cultural discussion regarding AI replacing human thought and creativity. Just shift it to alien. Good Lex funds research and artistic grants, evil Superman starts to solve humanity's unbeatable problems - famine, cancer, war etc. Once he has humanity in the palm of his hand, he "discovers" his past and human art/culture begins to be replaced by Kryptonian obsession.
>>153948453Gunn Peacemaker kinda tapped into that until his solo show
>>153941851>only evil version of Peter that isn't bounded to a Symbiote, infected, or mind controlled is Wolf Spider who only appears in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoondamn
>>153945152>This is to say that these days, besides being overdone, "but evil" stories have nothing to say.the ills of modern society don't really match evil superheroes much at all. if anything they map closer to the weaknesses of traditional heroes.
>>153938732No, that doesn't work because evil Batman isn't really threat unless he has real Batman's retarded plot armor.
>>153938732There’s a lot of “anti-Batman” characters like Prometheus, The Reaper, and some others I’m blanking on (Bane? Sort of?) but I think it’d be cool to have an anti-Batman who’s literally just as good as Batman in every sense and has a secret identity that Bats has to actually work to deduce instead of just revealing it or whatever.
>>153942776He said “(character) but EVIL”, anon, not “based”
professor x but evil. imagine the most Orwellian nightmare state possible with his mighty x-men being sent out the second there's a stray wrongthink.
>>153949705or the alternate of professor x just being an apocalyptic blight society is unable to deal with. mass psychic slaughter that comes and goes as the monster wishes.
>>153938478In kinda the same vein I have an idea to turn Riri Williams evil. The story I’d wanna do would be about all of Tony’s fuckups coming back to haunt him and I think Riri is his biggest fuck up of all. Bear in mind I only read like the first twelve issues or so of Bendis’s stuff with her so if some of this is already out of date me so solly>Riri’s got a victim complex almost right out of the gate with that whole “you’re supposed to tell me I can’t” speech from her grade school>this girl then witnesses her father figure murdered in cold blood>rather than seek therapy or a healthy way to deal with shit she just dives head first into engineering>steals all her stuff from school to build an armor that apparently can compete with Tony Stark>meet Tony once before he dies>at a very young age get the keys to his kingdom and the responsibility of being his replacement>addingweighttoafoundationthatwasntuptocode.gif>is surrounded by sycophants who tell her how awesome and cool she is even when she unilaterally decided to install herself the monarch of a sovereign nation>again, at a very young age, having this victim complex, a personally witnessed tragedy, falling ass backwards into a kingdom, gets booted out of the kingdom when Tony Stark comes back to lifeTo me that’s a recipe for a potentially interesting villain for Stark but it’ll never happen because…well we all know why
>>153947432Yes, and?
>>153949511There’s also the evil CEO version of Peter from the Spider-Man Edge of Time video game.
>>153948453The Comedian is kind of like Captain America’s cold war deep state version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfkBAH GAWD, THAT'S EVIL SPIDER-MAN'S MUSIC!
>>153948453I would view a "Evil Captain America" not as someone who just glorifies the dark side of America that we've seen done a trillion times before but someone who has absolutely no ideals or loyalty to anything.
>>153938561He's also easy to write as a major threat. He can just go to the nearest city and start smashing it up and the army can't stop him. Batman or someone with more limited powers like Green Lantern can't immediately bring the world to it's knees like a evil Superman can
>>153951890>This shit means nothing to me, man.
>>153938478Teen Titans but evil
>>153953201>they're influencers chasing clout and gaming the algorithm
>>153938478Green Lanterns as Space Nazgûl
>>153949607owlman
>>153946706>shota Michael Myers murks a guy trying to rapemurder his sister, escapes from asylum as an adult years later, becomes ambiguously paranormal scourge of crime who goes around Franking dudes
>>153947776>family man John Jones gets murdered by alien shapeshifter who coveted his quiet life>son realizes something's off about his dad now
>>153949752>Evil Professor X is jut Bullock with Charles' powers
>>153945152I think Bedlam was a pretty good "what if Joker but he was forced to be sane" story
>>153954938I've always said that you could make a vigilante hero Michael Myers a thing by having the divergence point be him watching Superman as a kid and reading capeshit comics that his family buys for him. Instead of becoming a murderer due to neglect and being exposed to too much violent TV and movies, Michael's dangerous obsession is vigilante justice.>except there's no real serious crime in Haddenfield so he mostly just skulks around and does good deeds like saving cats from trees, helping old ladies with groceries, and stopping stupid teens from drinking and driving but it's still Halloween so he goes around murking thieves and robbers trying to plunder empty houses left by families busy with trick or treating
>>153949765>>153949765Riri has way better storylines as a villain who slowly redeems herself yeah. Too bad they just didn't go with that.
>>153957210you could even have Loomis be his helpful benefactor (he believes Michael to be the walking embodiment of Justice) who helps Michael escape from the cops and grants him shelter/supplies>>153946706There's potential for a good guy Freddy Krueger>Freddy works at a daycare/elementary school but is murdered after discovering a local bigwig (the mayor or some CEO) doing unspeakable things to kids >he then returns as a vengeful spirit who protects the innocent from evil adults, plaguing the latter with nightmares and the former with gentle dreams where their monsters will never hurt them againYou could have a lot of fun with an episodic formula where each story is about a different kind of abusive parent/authority figure hurting their kids in a unique way. Freddy is then summoned by the children and arrives to deliver punishment. Something like Columbo meets early YGO. I'm imagining "Twin Peaks but BOB defends Laura from her father"
>>153938732My favorite evil Batman is Lynchman from Redline.
>>153946706>heroic Leatherface >the Sawyers win the lottery (Beverly Hillbillies?) and move into the suburbs of a rich city before they go full crazy and cannibalistic>Bubba mostly keeps to himself working at his family's butcher shop, caring for stray animals and making friends with the neighborhood hippies when he's not working>but he takes up his knives and chainsaw to hunt down a killer once stray animals end up dead
>>153938732>Evil BatmanLuthor is pretty close to that. Very different style, but he's a rich guy using his company to be a supervillain.
>>153951890>I'm loyal to nothing. Except the dollar.A very scummy Cap indeed. I would imagine him as something of a traveling ball of charisma who fleeces entire towns and even cities of their wealth and power before dipping when he's inevitably caught and finding a new sucker.
>>153957517He was flipping bricks for Mansa Musa before y'all even became a Type I civilization. He was at the Battle of Jericho taunting both sides with his cock out.
>>153938732the problem I have with "Evil Batman" is that Batman is "Dracula but Good" due to being inspired by The Shadow who's literally a Good Dracula.I'm not even kidding. There's a fair chunk of evidence in the comics to suggest that he's a vampire (or nephilim/fallen angel) who turned good, WOD-style.
>>153938732There's a pretty crazy one in Marshal Law
>>153957564>>153957570Qrd for both things?
>>153942794>Mary Sue who's inexplicably omniscient and impossible to defeatYes, Batman, but Evil. No shit.
>>153957509That just makes him Evil Iron Man. Or Jeff Bezos.
>>153948453They actually did that in Frontiersman
>>153957581>the pulps heavily imply that the Shadow's "true identity" of WW2 pilot Kent Allard is a lie, as there's still a dead body in Kent Allard's plane despite "Kent Allard" surviving the crash>both the pulps and comics show that the Shadow has a "true face" that he covers up with some combination of makeup, clay putty, and prosthetics (if one of the pulp covers means anything, he's straight up a skeleton man underneath the disguise)>the ending of the pulps imply that The Shadow assimilated Lamont Cranston entirely>both the comics and pulps suggest that The Shadow isn't mortal, as the Shadow has been around since at least before WW2 (whoever wears the signet ring is The Shadow)>The Shadow is shown on multiple occasions surviving feats that would otherwise kill a normal man (and in many cases straight up kill normal men)>The Shadow is juxtaposed with a lot of vampire imagery in the comics and his design pulls from Dracula (widow's peak, ears, nose, etc), especially the movie version>the movie all but says that he's Satan attached to a mortal vessel (the script pretty much confirms it)>several characters inspired (or indirectly inspired) by The Shadow oddly end up being supernatural, borderline supernatural, or vampiric: Alucard from Hellsing, Moon Knight, The Confessor, V, etc.
>>153945534Comparing Lex to Bezos is unfair to Lex. Lex but good is Lex on that one planet in the Bronze Age.
>>153939126He's not "evil" but Rorschach is the best DECONSTRUCTION of the Batman-archetype. Like how insane would a person have to be to spend his nights dressed in a costume looking for criminals to hunt?
>>153957772I feel like Moore fucked up with Rorschach because he's been very public about being a huge fanboy of The Shadow (the character even cameos in Extraordinary Gentlemen). Rorschach was inspired by Ditko's The Question and Mr A who were ALSO both inspired by The Shadow to a certain extent (at the very least, indirectly inspired thanks to Ditko being a Spider fanboy...and The Spider was inspired by The Shadow).There's just too much of The Shadow's "cool factor" and tragic heroic madness in Rorschach's character that it was inevitable that people would miss the point. Moore shouldn't have given him a cool design or had him aura farm, but that was never gonna happen considering he went on to create Night Raven who's literally Marvel's The Spider to Marvel's The Shadow. Very much a counterpart to V and Rorschach.
>>153951937>limited powers like Green Lantern can't immediately bring the world to it's kneesZero Hour says hello
>>153948453There's been a few. Nuke. John Walker for a bit. SIXIS, HydraCap... The idea doesn't have legs. Partially because writers refuse to commit to making him represent the worst vices of America the way he usually represents our best ideals. Opportunistic, Unprincipled, Bigoted, Resolutely Hypocritical and dishonest.. Then again, one antagonist being all that sounds fucking exhausting.
What if there was a villain version of Aquaman? Like a king of Atlantis who hates the surface world? That would be crazy!
>>153938732Worm has a handful of "deconstructive Batmans" in the story:>Armsmaster: Batman's super-autism, his technology and engineering skills, and self-absorbed ego>Shadow Stalker: Batman's trauma-induced edgelord hyper-violence>Contessa: Batman as a walking heartless boogeyman with infinite prep time and who can do pretty much anything>Gavel: MUH JUSTICE>Skitter: technically she's a deconstruction of Spider-Man but she's got a bit of Bat going on since Wildbow is a fan of Cassandra Cain (socially awkward hero dressed in black, hangs around a girl in a catsuit, fights Johnny Depp Joker, protects children, etc)
>>153957870I feel like it could work for a movie. Give Red Skull a successor who's just Bucky but Evil and serves as a twisted version of Steve>American immigrant/native who gleefully signed up for some America-Nazi Germany legacy MKULTRA project (or related to Weapon X, etc) just to get powers and cash>will do anything for money, even if it's petty>openly racist and "says what's on his mind">works for just about every evil corporation in Marvel>likes to play dirty >lies about being zealously patriotic/religious just to worm his way into new career opportunities >supports all sides of every conflict so he never loses
>>153957331>Freddy, most of the time looks like Robert Englund out of makeup, when he's not consciously altering his appearance to thet of another child, trusted relative, pettable animal; any form that can help a given child in the nightmare to calm down.>There is one exception: when he gets mad or frustrated or maybe starts enjoying punsihing said child's tormentors a wee too much, his smin boils and splits, the air fills with a scent of charring pork and a strange glove, with razors at each digit appears. This form is never a conscious decision and requires conscious effort for him to revert from. >Sometimes it feels like it needs more every time..
>>153958106I like to think that Freddy either has his original backstory intact (despite having a horrible childhood, he still turned out good) OR it's inverted so he's the child of a sinful woman who had a miraculous birth while in prison. He was still raised by Mr Underwood except he was loved instead of being abused.I like to think that instead of making a deal with demons, he ends up in Heaven and becomes a herald of God to protect the children, as he refuses to stay in Paradise.
>>153957889imperious rex!
>>153946706He's technically not a slasher villain, but I've always been drawn to the idea of a heroic Pinhead (and Cenobites as heroes)>the Lament Configuration is a puzzle box meant to be found and solved by those with Lovingkindness and Selflessness in their hearts, and only the most noble of humans who walk the Middle Path find the box in their lifetimes, neither rejecting their urges outright or allowing their impulses to control them fully>upon solving the Box, Anchorites are summoned to whisk away their new recruit to undergo a transformation where they become heralds for the Ziz, a Divine and Angelic entity They dress preppy. Cashmere and linen. Modest appearances. Instead of torturing people who open the box, they go around healing and saving people lost in the throes of pleasure and escapism, and shattering the minds of evildoers (purifying them of corruption so that they will choose selflessness in the future).
>>153949481yeah, somewhat
>>153957940>Wormyour dogshit webnovel doesnt belong here
I like clown heroes. You don't see them a lot. The Jester is cool. So is Jack in the Box from Astro City. I sometimes think about it Joker had the exact same origin but became a hero instead. Comes to the same nihilistic conclusions about everything being a joke, but decides that since nothing matters he may as well dress up like a clown and fight crime and try to be happy.
>>153959407Surely you jest
>>153944666Shut up, Satan
>>153959407>>153961270Does Comedian count? I mean, he IS a "hero"...
>>153959339It does. It's about superheroes.
>>153938478The “but evil” haters attract casual fans who don't have a mind of their own and hardcore readers who hated the legit edgy garbage from the '90s. Especially from the Image era, where there was that fake edgy vibe. I feel like the discussion has gotten watered down. Omniman isn't a subversion; if anything, he follows a logical line of reasoning about Kryptonians and other alien outsiders. Homlander isn’t “super but evil” either; he follows that critique of the mishandling of international affairs and the problem of unchecked power. I feel like people don’t want good stories or to deal with any “outsider” idea. Every time I see “heroism,” it’s just something performative and unnecessary. We spend so much time reading and looking at this shit and never ask ourselves why
What if Joker...but good?
>>153945663Doctor Brooklyn
>>153938732Evil Batman is literally just the billionaires today
>>153962879>Omniman isn't a subversion; if anything, he follows a logical line of reasoning about Kryptonians and other alien outsiders. Homlander isn’t “super but evil” either; he follows that critique of the mishandling of international affairs and the problem of unchecked power.Ask me how I know you don't believe any of this.
>>153962684comics and cartoons, you retarded ingrate
>>153954434>the rings are the opposite of Green Lantern rings, they use everything EXCEPT will>unsustainably so>irreparably so>before long everything is sucked dry except lust for powerSeven thousand, two hundred and four for mortal men doomed to die.
>>153938478Superman's supporting cast but evil:>inversion, dare I say deconstruction, of "wot if Superman was le bad?">Superman is as heroic and self-sacrificing as ever, but he's hated and hunted by a society that hangs onto Lex's every word because, like Lex, the normalfags are projecting their own inner depravity onto Superman (just like IRL normalfags)This is how you make Superman a messianic figure: he's rejected by the general public and despised by the powers that be, and only a rare few take his side.
>>153938478Remember when they tried to make "Evil Mario" a thing? Also, remember when Indie games were fun and novel?
>>153966959There was a very distinct epoch online where "Mario but evil" was a popular idea
>>153962919Clowns have too much chaotic energy to be portrayed as anything other than villains or tricksters who play all sides. That's literally their job.
Evil Ghost Rider?
>>153938478Batman and Spider-Man
>>153938478I find it more interesting when an entire team is made evil, since the writers get to play with their dynamics a lot more.Doesn't need to be the Justice League every fucking time though. Even Marvel has an evil Justice League.
>>153964510God, that's what Absolute Green Lantern should have been.>this ghost?-skelly?-alium? invader with a magic ring, apparently named Abin Sur, rolls into town>a lucky shot severs his ring finger, and he kind of... implodes and collapses into dust>Hal, Jon, Guy, and maybe some of the other human Green Lanterns over the years take turns keeping the weird seemingly indestructible ring on their person, rotating every time this clearly demonic ring starts getting to them>Hector Hammond finds out about all this, and he doesn't (consciously) know what this ring's deal is but it's something important that he doesn't own so he wants it at all costs>Sinestro isn't the first Dark Lord (that would be Krona, who here cast the first rings), or the first schmuck who thought he could master the power of the rings and use it for good, or even the first Dark Lord who started out as a schmuck who thought he could master the power of the rings and use it for good>Atros, the sole survivor of the Lanterns scouring Sector 666 of all life, is a good contender for the next Dark Lord: a widely beloved hero the universe ovet, the architect of many victories over the Lanterns... and inexorably succumbing to the power of the rings he claimed from Sector 666's Lanterns
>>153962919Joker is hit on the head and becomes a superhero, Batman rejoices until gradually the jokers still chaotic personality and newfound eagerness (despite having a tenuous grasp on ethics) causes even more trouble and drives batman evil and insane, blowing up a building. The falling rubble hits joker on the head and turns him back to normal. Batman jumps away into the distance causing mayhem, still insane. Joker runs off in the opposite direction. Robin looks into the camera and goes "oh bother" before the looney tunes outro plays.
>>153938478I want to see a Lex Luthor but good story.
>>153938478The Jews but evil.
>>153969229That's just real life
>>153962919Bedlam, it was taken too soon
>>153967117I disagree. Clowns are for entertaining children and making people happy. A Bozo-style clown who saves the day and gives free balloons to kids would be nice. Or a hobo clown who protects the poor and downtrodden.
>>153967117I would be happy with just a trickster clown desu. joker being a blood thirsty violent ape completely kills the appeal of his archetype for me.
>>153938732Pic related's ending fucking sucks and undermines the whole story
>>153968368That's just Chris Roberson and Dennis Culver's comic Edison Rex
>>153964325>edgyI guess that’s because this “but evil” thing is pretty normal for me. If anything, I like them better than that lame-ass Superman. Do any of you guys read those stories? I hate GL and Flash because, well, I don’t read them. But I’ve been reading Superman for a long time, and it’s just slop.
What would be better, an incompetent hero turned incompetent villain, or an incompetent hero turned competent villain?
>>153976645a competent hero
>>153964439Tell that to the Death Battle, Toonami, and live action faggots. Then come and talk to me.
