The highly anticipated, and heavily delayed, Hush 2, AKA H2SH, has finally reached its conclusion. Will Hush 2 Part 2 (Hush 3?) ever be made? Don't spoil the real title for those who haven't seen it. Who knows, but I'm going to post Hush 2.
>>153940715Thanks, I hate it.
>>153940715Thanks for posting all the issues. You’re alright, anon.
>>153941405This still galls me all these months later Nygma Time
>>153941546This is Hush as a character should end, ignominiusly shot in the head
if you liked it, buy it! Support your local comic store! See you in H2SH2!
>>153940715So what was the idea here? Because it seems to me that their would’ve been no trouble if this was just its own graphic novel and it didn’t need to be a “canon release” month to month
>>153941588>continued in H2SH^2You have to be kidding me. This is somehow even worse than I remembered
>>153941613Sales on the main Batman book collapsed under Chip Zdarsky, to the point it became something DC could no longer ignore/paper over with crossover after crossover.So they fired Zdarsky and brought Lee and Loeb back to do a Hush sequel... But no one wanted it and sales were NIT huge like DC expected. Lee got pissy at the backlash and started dragging their asses leading to the decision to split the story in half and run a filler arc by Matt Fraction between installments. But then Lee fell further behind and DC then started having multiple months without a main Batman book, so they said fuck it and hired Fraction full time as Batman writer and relaunched the book with a new #1 to try and boost sales back up again and Hush 2 Part two became a mini, which further made Lee delay shit until DC forced him to finish due to the optics pretty much making the storyline a huge black eye for the company instead of a huge hit/evergreen trade
>>153940953>>153940946Just let him die, fuck this makes this whole thing more retarded than it already is
>>153941801If Batman let Joker die he would become the Batman who Laughs and commit a global holocaust for fun
>>153941801>>153941862Saving Joker pretty much undoes everything good Batman has ever done. If you save Joker you murder 1000 innocent people.
>>153941613The plan very clearly was to shake up Batman moving forward as much as the original didIt's hard to remember now but that comic as shit as it was is the first major introduction of mutated Croc, Harley Quinn (who had debuted in No Man's Land but nobody knew what the fuck to do with her until this), bringing back Jason Todd as a fakeout until it wasn't, killing Harold the hunchback that existed to explain who pumps the tires on the Batmobile, green skin Ivy, the new Huntress outfit, the year one outfit becoming the standard but also adding the jackboot details and the permanent five-o-clock shadow and a bunch of other things I'm probably not rememberingAnd you look at this and it seems like an intentional reversal of almost all of those except Harold - Ivy back in her old outfit with regular skin on the villain team, Croc looking more or less how he did when he was introduced, no Harley at all,, Huntress back in her old outfit just with a slightly pointed mask and of course the yellow ovalAnd then Lee couldn't hit schedule and they had to do the fraction run too early so it all becomes an elseworlds
>>153941968Harley had a well received solo book going on post NML that Lee ordered killed because wanted Harley back with Joker for Hush
This book is so bad it makes the original Hush look like Watchmen.Nothing makes sense. Why is Riddler in there? When is any of this happening? Why is Batman saving Joker again? Why are the bat-characters fighting each other again? Why is Batman acting like a twat again? We are informed in the captions over and over that this is some brilliant masterplan but none of it makes any fuckass sense. And it all is blue and purple and seemingly happens in some random ditch. Where's the color and fun and energy that excited people in the OG Hush?
>>153941709Eh better than zdaraky, tynion, And king
>>153941588I appreciate the TailaXBat ship
Everyone is rightfully ignoring this. Shit is so bad it stopped being canon. They pulled it from the main title
So they just let batman shoot Jason? With a gun? What the fuck
>>153942146It is not. It is in fact worse than any of those.
>>153942156It's still canon
>>153942171No its not. They made it an elseworlds now. Wasn't the original plan but here we are
>>153942170Nope. They doesn't characters assassinate Bruce like kings run or gotham war did
>>153941510Nygma Time? Looks like he's gotten a bong hit transplant.
>>153942156>Everyone is rightfully ignoring this. Shit is so bad it stopped being canon. They pulled it from the main titleThis. No will ever treat H2S2S2H as canon except possibly Loeb himself. This thing is entirely an elseworlds story that happens in its own little dimension and will be ignored by all future writers.
>>153942177Source?
>>153942183Bruce could suck off Joker on panel and it would be less gay than him saving his fucking life for the 10th time against all logic and reason.
>>153942195Source is Fraction Batman is the canon Batman now and it is ignoring this shit completely.
>>153942195Anon you don't just pull a story like this from the main title, make it a side book, stop marketing it, and still expect it to be canon.
>>153942146Hush the character is fucking awful. At least King tried something with Bane and Thomas, you could feel something for them.
>>153942228>>153942215They let it finish up using the rebirth numbering It's canon. This ignores the savage is in charge of the good thing
>>153942239So you're just being obtuse for the sake of reaction/attention?
>>153942249I'm saying you haven't given any proof
>>153941787I remember being annoyed by zdarsky but what did he do that made the sales collapse? Because the only thing he did that really know was having another brother eye type story that had a part where Bruce somehow survived a fucking landing from the stratosphere>>153941968I’m not that big a Batman guy, but did Hush really change things in the book that much? All I remember is it introduced Hush as a villain
>>153941588I just read this whole story right now , and I genuinely have no idea what happened what the point was, what hush’s plan may have been, why Jason was such a bitch or why Talia was even involved
>>153942156>They pulled it from the main titleThis was always the plan. The book is bad. Everyone agrees it is bad, so I have no idea why you need to lie like this.
I have nothing against Jim Lee but the man can’t meet deadlines. You shouldn’t ever put him on a mainline book. Keep him to elseworlds.
>>153942287Gotham war. Bruce fighting Selina and his family because they said a little robbery is ok
>>153942326>This was always the plan.Bull fucking shit. That's not how it works. They'll do tie-ins with other similar titles but they never pull it outright to die in a self-contained book. Go damage control elsewhere, retard
>>153942349This isn’t any better than that, not in the slightest
>>153942259The proof is in my ballsack, you need to suck it out.
>>153942376No I am saying it's why sales tanked >>153942355That was literally the plan when it was announced. 6 issues, then fraction, then part 2 in its own mini
>>153942310Congrats, you got Loebed.
This comic was gay and cringe and gave me cancer and AIDS.
Loeb basically treats only his own comics as canon anyway. He returned Jason's characterization all the way back to beginning like nothing in the past 24 years happened at all.
>>153942385>That was literally the plan when it was announced. 6 issues, then fraction, then part 2 in its own miniPost source. Because that's a damn lie
thats fucking it? hush gets plow plow dead and batman gets saved not to mentioned he saved the jokers life and the writers spend the whole run trying to justify it. this shit is exactly why i hate batman and comic book writing.
>>153942593This is only part one
>>153942355https://batlore.wordpress.com/2025/03/08/h2sh-relaunches-and-the-future-of-batman/>This month Jeph Loeb and Jim Lee are returning to the main Batman title for “Hush 2” or H2SH. A six issue storyline that’ll close the current volume of the series, and will be followed up next year by a six-issue miniseries, H3SH, that will conclude the entire Hush saga.
>>153942656It's not going to get any better.
This nigga wrote Long Halloween and stuff like Daredevil Yellow.
>>153942915Dementia is a hell of a drug.
>>153942857>H3SHSomehow, I think they were angling for a 5th installment, HVSH, to cap it off.
>>153942506https://batlore.wordpress.com/2025/03/08/h2sh-relaunches-and-the-future-of-batman/Cope
What the fuck is even the problem with Batman saving Joker's life? Superman would have done the same thing.
>>153943801You lose. >>153942857
>>153943954Edgelord nihilistic types can't into morality.
>>153943133Time has really borne out that Sale was hard carrying Loeb
>>153941787>But then Lee fell further behindThis Summer, Alan Moore is V for Vindicated
>>153944230He's done great work without him.
>>153944117>retarded moral absolutionismNothing Batman & co do has anything to do with morality. They're barely logical. It's just a badly written power fantasy. Get off your high horse.
This book is pretty bad, but it looks nice. The central premise of Batman having to save Joker's life and that being in conflict with the bat family makes very little sense to me, the events that are pushing them towards wanting him dead at that moment are so far in the past that it lacks any real immediancy, especially since both Barbera and Jason Todd had the damage to themselves reversed, though I guess having Jason Todd having brain damage gives him a little more motivation.I think it is canon, though, the Fraction run has some assumptions about the state of the batfamily that are probably picking up from the outline of this story, while not trying to delve too deeply into it. I guess it doesn't matter now, but the Red Hood book absolutely had set up being laid down from here.
>>153944845>instantly proves my point
>>153941479Is this cunt serious? Bitch you used his son against him. You taught a bunch of desperate people how to steal. You turned his family against him 2 arcs previous. Can someone just kill Catwoman already? Make her leave Gotham. She fucked up Batman more than she ever helped him through her life. Remember she was the one who gave Bane the blueprints to Arkham and Blackgate which led to Bane breaking Bruce's back.
>>153941405NYGMA BALLS
>>153944860Red Hood book makes no sense with how this ends. Helena and Jason are on different sides and fighting each other. Then suddenly they're down in Louisiana and they're fucking? So glad it got shitcanned.
>>153941588Other people when they get revived via lazarus pit: Intense RageBruce: Horny?
>>153942915I love long Halloween but its mystery is pretty shit, you can’t actually figure out who did it until the book tells you because their are never clues or any sort of real indication on who the real killer was until then
>>153941588Not that it will happen will happen, but it would be funny:Bruce: So...son, your mother is pregant...Damian: Great...a half sibling. Ugh.Bruce: Well, no.ä
>>153941462So does this mean that fractions first issue of Batman is technically issue 929?
>>153942154So much better than selina
>>153941462Quick someone explain Batman's legacy numbering Where does Fractions run fit in
>>153941787>But no one wanted it and sales were NIT huge like DC expectedI remember threads about how issues were topping sales chart even after the delays started.
>>153941539I remember in the early threads there were people who misunderstood a Loeb interview, believing that he was saying that the original Hush was now the only canon appearance of Tommy Elliott. Guess he put in this line to nix that line of thought.>>153941968>green skin Ivy, This started with No Man's Land.>the year one outfit becoming the standardAlso a No Man's Land change.The biggest deal from Hush that carried over to future books was having Batman reveal his identity to Selina even though he had them break up at the end for nonsensical reasons.>>153942287Zdarsky had nothing for contempt for Batman and it showed.>made Thomas Wayne a bad husband and a cheater>made Jim Gordon murder the husband of the woman he was fucking>more tired multiverse stories that didn't fit the tone people expect from Batbooks>the return of BatjerkEven the batfans can only take a creative team spitting on their hero so much.
>>153940715>H2SHSo how do you pronounce this?
>>153947501The 2 is silent.
>>153947501Hush tuah
>>153943954>>153944117>>153944845It is EVIL to save Joker because Joker is EVIL and will never be redeemed. It is in fact so evil that every single good thing Batman does is erased every time he pulls this shit. Aiding and abetting evil is evil.
>>153947836Like his doctor father, Batman adheres to the Hippocratic oath. If it's within his ability to save someone's life, he has to do it.
>>153941581Someone cut out top right please
>>153947501Like it's spelled
>>153947905Batman would kill a hundred children to sniff Joker's ballsack at this point.
>>153946700Ooh they should call H3SH, Hush little baby.
>>153947905Didn't Tynion have Bruce decide to not save Joker in Joker War?
>>153948709He decided to prioritize saving Harley's life, it was the opposite of a Sophie's Choice. That entire situation was stupid. Of course Joker was able to get out of it without help and went on to kill a lot more people.
Waht the fuck am I reading man
This was so fucking dumb. >Talia appears just because for 5min, clearly she wont be behind everything again>Batman saves the Joker.... again>somehow everyone is mad this time>everyon bitches at Batman for no reason and beat his ass>even tho he shold be able to curbstomp the retarded brat and dumb broads with no problem>also Joker has braces now and reunites the criminals for no reason>Riddler's stupid look and motivation>Bats and villains unit->just kidding, they beaten without doing anything>also Talia was behind all! again!Fuck you OP for making me read this
>>153949518okay but you're still gonna read hush 2 part 2 right
>>153947501"Hu-two-sh".
>>153949570only three months after it's over and OP's post it again, like the masochist retard I am
>>153947485>Even the batfans can only take a creative team spitting on their hero so much.They seemed perfectly content with King doing it.
>>153940715The real title is H2SH2 though. How is that a spoiler?
>>153950240The full effect of seeing H2SH^2 after reading it can't be compared to just hearing it.
>>153950194Sales also dropped under King which is why they kicked him off the book before he could complete his 100 issue arc, the editors gave him a maxi-series with specials to give him those numbers and let him finish his story on his terms, and they pulled the Joker War lever to boost sales on the Batman title itself.
Any writer who submits a script where Batman actively helps Joker in any way should be instantly fired.
>>153951276Batman's been doing his best to help the Joker for decades.
>>153944881> can't get off his high horseYour opinion isn't a point. >>153947905> batjokefag sniff their own fartKek, Batman can't even adhere to be held accountable for his action like a normal citizen.
>>153940828gyat
Damn OP, SoP weekend isn't for another 8 weeks!
>>153952188We had this problem last year - people doing random SoP threads throughout the coming months, but when SDCC rolled around we barely got all the classics and a handful of new stuff
>>153941588genuinely burst out laughing at "hush 2 2" or "hush 2 squared" or whatever that's meant to be
>>153952365Yeah, that was a rough one. I almost miss all the mid shit that got dumped
>>153952365>>153952916Turns out the true pain... was silence.
Fuck you, /co/. I liked this a lot. It is better than anything Batman has done since The New 52. I just wish it had an actual ending.
Is Hush has a Hypnosis App or something? This is the only reason can explain why all the batfamily members act like his whores in this story.
>>153941328Jesus Bruce. Was that necessary
>>153940828I wanna stick my tongue in Talia's butt, that is all.
>>153941801If you kill a killer the number of killers stays the same
>>153941546HAHA Red Hood is gay too now
>>153952188This is hardly SOP when the ongoing Batman book has been SOP bad since 2011 and currently has fraction’ faggot ass and is coming off of zdarsky. Stop being such a histrionic little dweeb.
>>153948024>Batman would kill a hun-Nope, Bruce dreams of the day for when he can burry the clown six feet under. Look at his expression when he killed Joker in DC KO. He wants that clown dead.
>>153941968>so it all becomes an elseworldsIt's not. This shit is still canon it just predates Fraction.
>>153944107Bodied that freak.
>>153956529Don't pretend Fraction doesn't run circles around this slop. This is a boomer who hasn't read a Batman comic in 20 years making up the first thing he can come up with. Zero effort trash.
>>153944107BTFO
>>153942036>Harley had a well received bookNah man that book sold like shit and then they tried making her into a grounded character and it still sold like shitAnd as for that second part Lee didn't have any power over anything but Wildstorm until well after both that book and Hush
>>153940722So does he buy these little toys from a store, or commission an artist to draw them for him and craft the stands. Why isn't he 3d printing them so they're less embarrassing if anyone sees them. Given he's alone, its really sad. Makes me feel bad for him that he's playing wth these little carefully drawn models when he could just write "Batman" on a bit of paper as its only for him.
>>153957851Grim
>>153940946>>153940953What person in their right mind would be willing to save him? To know that in a few weeks the blood of thousands will be on your hands as the Joker blows up a damn, or sets fire to a school or collapses a hospital?
>>153941008Why is he double-masked?
>>153955685That's why you need to kill multiple killers, like the Punisher does.
>>153941154All this could have been solved if the surgeon had at the very least severed his spine and left him quadraplegic. Still alive, but just a head.
>>153941862Lets ignore how incredibly stupid that concept is, the idea that if Batman let a sociopathic serial killer die his only path is global genocide, and just ask why Batman didn't take him to an actual hospital or Arkham. Yes, Joker would probably die under their care, but Batman would have followed the law and handed him to the correct authorities. His hands and concoinse would be clean. The idea that he's got no choice but to get Joker treatment from an off the books surgeon so he survives and 20 minutes later is 100% healthy again is so dumb I can't accept anyone has written it in seriousness.
>>153947905Hippocratic oath doesn't mean 'also protect them from consequence'. Batman should have dumped joker at a hospital or police station and watched them treat him if he cares so much about him living as opposed to literally givng him such good medical care than in the same day as almost bleeding to death and going through surgery he's ninja fighting two Robins and winning.
>>153960758Batman is not in his right mind. He never was and Batfaggotry is for the mentally ill.
I haven't read ongoing Batman since 2007 or so and am flabbergasted to see it's still the same stuff that was a dead horse when I left with the same old song and dance about killing Joker. You can bitch and moan about Absolute all you want but it's clear some kind of radical change is needed at this point rather than regurgitating the same goddamn plot for decades.
The problem isn't that the Joker shoudl be dead, it's that he shouldn't be so good at killing people. He's given so much plot armor it's ridiculous.
>>153941588This shit is as insane as Odyssey but not the least bit fun and the art is worse.
>>153941588"Welp, time to give Damian a sibling"Okay, but seriously. I like Bruce and Talia (before Morrison came, but DC has actually worked on repairing them in recent years), but why is Bruce kissing her? Is he grateful to her because she revived him? Does he feel lonely after his entire family turned against him? Is he trying to trick her? Or has the pit simply made him horny instead of angry?It feels a bit random.
>>153960758Doctors take a Hippocratic oath and are under an obligation to save any kind of murderer, rapist, dictator, etc. It is unethical to let anyone die if it's within their power to save them, though sometimes it's necessary in triage situations. If Batman had to choose between an innocent person or Joker, he'd choose the innocent, which is what he did in Joker War because Harley/Tynion is an idiot.>>153961359The story makes it clear that Leslie's clinic is the best option. Joker springing up just fine is Loeb's terrible writing.>>153962138Batman comics aren't normally like this, they just took Loeb out of cold storage for Hush 2 money.
>>153942310That was the same issue with the original Hush. People only liked it because of the art and because not!Jason showed up.Remember; the solution to the original Hush was that The Riddler figured out that Batman was Bruce Wayne after being dunked in a Lazarus Pit and got Bruce's evil childhood friend to pay for an elaborate revenge scheme just to tell Bruce that he knew he was Batman.
>>153961315Bruce has literally been told that at least two Earth had no crime because he finally had the balls to kill The Joker. I'm sure it's incredibly temping, but he's a stubborn asshole.
>>153962930Brubaker dunking on the premise of Hush while Hush was still going was quite ballsy, though of course hardly anyone was reading Detective, too busy with their Loeb/Lee slop.
>>153962988Snyder came up with Batkek as a counterpoint to this. "If I kill him, someone worse will replace him."
>>153951395For those of you playing at home: The plot of this issue is that it seems like The Joker has been framed for a murder, so Batman tries to keep the police off his trail while he figures out who the real killer is. Turns out it was all a ruse by The Joker to put Batman in a death trap.
>>153963019It's honestly funny how Batkek and Failsafe are two of the most hated Batvillains on this board when their entire premise is "No, you fucking idiot: Batman getting rid of both his no-kill code and the entire Batfamily to become PrepTime BatGod is stupid and here's why."
