>I wish to be VILLAIN in South American cartoon show

>>153942118
It’s just an animatic.
On the plus side, I have a feeling that Jorge might be able to find a way to finish it for cheap…

>>153942118
Concept was cool. Music was not quite what I was expecting. I thought it was going to be more Robert Rodriguez-y

>>153942118
Why did my dude turn to AI man...

>>153942692
Money and the ability to direct his future magnum opus without producers telling him what to do is my best bet.

It's probably just money and job opportunities.

I wonder if he brought up the El Tigre revival idea ahead of the AI thing to try and cushion the backlash

>>153942692
>>153942730
Hi's daughter was born with a medical condition also Hi's wife is an animator so they are double fuck.

>>153942815
May the money serve him well enough then.

>>153942815
>medical condition
What is the source of this? I’ve seen this comment in another thread, but those are the only times I’ve heard it mentioned.

It just seemed like a really fucking weird move on his part especially because he never made any mention of being interested in AI before announcing that he was doing a whole fucking series with it.

>>153942730
Given the backlash, it kind of seems like he totally torched his career with this move. If money was the motivation for this move, I hope he got an absolute shit ton of it because it may be hard to continue working moving forward.

>>153942853
Mexican podcast about comics, 3 of the host are professionals in the entertainment industry
1 marvel colorist 1 marvel inker and the other one is the person that design the art style of spydey and friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqFHD60l5CM
the video is from 2021 when he star speaking about never give up because hi need to shoulder his family is when he goes in to his family situation.
sorry for my lack of clarity

> In 2015, I had the opportunity to attend the Pixelatl comic, animation, and video game festival as a participant in the Sequenciarte contest. Among the various exhibitions and talks at the event was a presentation by Jorge R. Gutierrez, where he discussed his career and presented his new animated film, The Book of Life.

> I've never considered myself a true fan of his work, perhaps because his ornate style, riddled with clichés and stereotypes exaggerated to absurd and cartoonish levels, doesn't particularly appeal to me. However, I do recall three fragments from his talk that remain fairly clear in my memory.

> The first memory is when he mentioned at some point, and I will try to quote verbatim, the following phrase: "I only do things for white gringo kids with money," and analyzing his work, even at first glance, one can discern the sincerity of that statement.

> Even the animated film that generated a lot of buzz at the time, The Book of Life, is true to his artistic vision, where he indiscriminately combines elements of his taste, curiously the plot of the story being set in a stereotypically Spanish scenario, because, for the American (other than the apparent rising tide of Europeanists and racists obsessed with the figure of the Spanish conquistador), Spain is just another "Latin" country overshadowed by its former overseas territories.

> His second statement, with which I long agreed, was an anecdote alluding to his early years working in the American animation industry, where one of his employers, upon seeing the sketches in his portfolio, which he had not presented to an interview, told him that this was what he needed to show, because here you could see the passion he had and that he needed to exhibit in order to achieve his goals and dreams.

> And to see that almost 10 years later, he announces with great fanfare his "support" for the use of AI in future productions, within an industry that is precarious on a GLOBAL level, and where corporate greed prevails and originality begins to decline, strikes me as an absolute incongruity and betrayal of what he preached for years.

> In Mexico, the animation industry exists and survives in an environment hostile to its existence. It is common knowledge within that environment of labor abuse, non-payment, lack of seriousness from producers, and the absence of genuine editors, which makes many animators in Mexico seek opportunities in other countries, where the conditions are the same or at least somewhat "acceptable" but equally precarious.

> In Mexico, the animation industry exists and survives in an environment hostile to its existence. It is common knowledge within that environment of labor abuse, non-payment, lack of seriousness from producers, and the absence of genuine editors, which makes many animators in Mexico seek opportunities in other countries, where the conditions are the same or at least somewhat "acceptable" but equally precarious.

> AI is a new technology that I doubt will disappear, and for certain sectors, such as medicine, it could represent transcendental advances that could save thousands of lives, but its use in the artistic field responds to the purely avaricious needs of the large entertainment conglomerates, which only seek the greatest profits, at the expense of the precariousness of countless artists, based on the theft of their intellectual property.

> I myself have dabbled in the world of art and comics, not as successfully as I would like, but I have always sought to ensure that my work as a writer is grounded in human art, because it is the only thing that serves my needs as a creator, which I consider invaluable and irreplaceable.

> What advice could be useful now for a world that devalues and diminishes the purpose of human creation? Ironically, the third and final piece of advice that Jorge R Gutierrez gave at the time could be applied right now, which was to build community, to get together with people who share your concerns and tastes, and to seek their support as well as professional growth.

> All that remains is to continue doing what we love, to strive to make it tangible, and to emphasize that human labor is not a dispensable commodity

> As a final note to the controversy surrounding Jorge R. Gutiérrez and AI, although his work isn't to my taste, his influence and the appreciation he enjoys among the Mexican public are undeniable. His Catrina from the film "The Book of Life," since its debut, has become a recurring character in Day of the Dead celebrations throughout the country, which makes the matter even more tragic, since without the need for a machine, he was able to create a design that is becoming part of the modern Mexican popular imagination:

>>153942853
>>153942692

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqFHD60l5CM

yes AROUND 1:10:35 he star talking about when his son was 2 years old and was diagnosis with (Autism). sorry for some reason I believe it was his daughter.

>>153943403
Is the kid low-functioning? Jorge had posted not too long ago about finding out that he was autistic too. I guess it all depends on the kid specifically, but I was anticipating that there was going to be some sort of debilitating illness that required a lot of hospital care and stuff.

His bit about taking risks seems pertinent. I wonder if he saw flirting with AI as yet another risk?

>>153943580
*necessary risk

>>153942692
because you didn't give him the money to make this Kino into a full show

>>153942118
If you’re into mexploitation films from the 60s and 70s like the “El Santo” films, it might be up your alley.
But it was made by an AI fucker.

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>>153942118
El Guapo vs The Narco Vampires is INDEED kino! Big reason why Jorge's actions this week were so disappointing, but it seems like he's thankfully come to his senses finally.

I don't appreciate that Gustavo Cosio (my fav story artist on the pilot) felt the need to defend Jorge, though... https://www.instagram.com/p/DY5V3LfzbhN/

AI’s secret power is to make you immune to gay communists and not care about anything they say. Jorge must have enjoyed this power and his haters just can't understand.
>>153943149
>complains a cartoon is cartoonish
>>153942692
Was he your guy or were you engaging in a mutual game of pretend that you share the same ideas for the sake of career?

>>153946104
>Big reason why Jorge's actions this week were so disappointing
I'm tired of you faggots thinking your owed free shit done exactly your way the man's got bills to pay, he's done nothing wrong hurting your faggoting feelings is not a real problem

>>153942118
I liked it yes

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>>153942692
I rarely draw fanart of anything that's not me turning it into porn and he decides to pull this off, unlike some the guy had a lot of upcoming work opportunities, I'd expect someone like Butch Hartman to resort to this, not him, he was an inspiration for me to pursue art school.

>>153942692
He's already backing down after del Toro shat on him.

>>153942118
Nah. Why does everything related to Mexico have to have narcos? It’d be like if every American related cartoon had pedophile billionaires every single time.

>>153946407
Too little too late as that AI crap show is still releasing. He signed a contract, now he gets to suffer for it:

He got btfo’d.
I don’t know that this needs to be career ending for him. It would have been had he gone through with it, but I think flirting with the idea but ultimately backing out redeems him. I know it was largely because of the backlash, but it’s not like he was itching for a reason to use AI all along. He just saw it as an opportunity to make an original show which these days is a rare opportunity.

>>153946407
Was that on Twitter or was it like a personal message? I’d like to see that.

>>153946170
Does AI have the power to stop you diddling your niece?

>>153946239
The man has a feature film and three shows lined up without AI. He didn’t need this.

>>153946455
That’s just the stuff that makes it over here. It’s to sell to an American audience. It’s like how Asians = martial arts.

>>153948194
Boil get that cock back in your mouth or emails.

>>153942118
It's an animanic, I think it has a lot of potential, but possibly too niche to really get picked up by a major streaming platform.

>>153946455
The Latin audience is too small and too poor to support a show with anything other than a shoestring budget. So to appeal to a larger audience you have to go more stereotypical/simple for a broader audience and I think most adults are aware of how bad the cartels are in Mexico. So it's an easy thing to include for a broader potential audience. Same goes for Lucha Libre.

>>153943203
I could see someone being pro-AI if the industry he's used to is that bad. If they're not paying people enough then AI can't really make it worse. At best it lets them produce higher quality stuff for less and it could make them more internationally competitive.

>>153948207
I guarantee you that Speedy Gonzales movie at the least has been canceled by now, there was no way that was actually happening

>>153948513
I don’t have any evidence for this, but I always assumed that he dropped this animatic to dip his toe into the bourgeoning indie scene. Perhaps see if he could get some crowdfunding interest or maybe turn the heads of Glitch. The concept is rad as fuck, but definitely not made to appeal to mainstream platforms.

>>153942692
What really?

>>153951682
kind of, sort of but not really.
Yesterday Jorge announced that he was working on an original show for Amazon that would make use of AI assisted tech. He tried to assure people that humans would be in charge of every step of the process and that AI would be used to an assistive capacity, but the response was swift and negative with a handful of bigger name creators weighing in. Surprisingly the majority of people did not resort to ad hominem attacks and simply expressed extreme disappointment in the decision since he’d been such an inspiration and role model to so many creators.

Several screenshots of past comments he’d made on Twitter about how AI was theft or how it could never replace creators circulated on various social media platforms.

Today, he announced that he had decided to withdraw from the program, and apologized to the people who were upset. I think most people view this as the best course of action, however a handful of extremely dedicated autists seem to think that he should be punished forever for even thinking about it.

>>153952598
He shit on AI for years, 180ed after he thought he could make a bit of bag from it, 180ed again after it became clear that it would torpedo his career afterwards. He has no principles. Fair or not, that naturally gets people pissed.

>>153952807
His comments always seemed to be fairly reserved in retrospect. The worst that he said was responding to a post about AI with the screenshot of the dude saying “The secret ingredient is crime”.
Most of the other comments he’s made about AI is how it won’t replace real creative people, or that AI is like an uzi that can mow people down with the pull of a trigger, but professional assassins should have mastery over all methods including hand to hand, knives etc.
It seems like he’s basically always looked at it as a potential assistive technology in retrospect.

Anyway, he reversed course. I personally think he made the right call and I won’t hold it against him, but some particularly angry autists want him completely cancelled now. Kind of stupid of them. If he can find “redemption” it would encourage other people who have maybe toyed with AI to pull back. If they try to bury him forever, then basically anyone who has tinkered with it will think “welp, it’s too late now” and go all in.

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>>153953533
Frankly I think the flak is well deserved. Dude had principles, then gave in the moment someone gave him a check with zeroes on it. Then, ONLY when the internet got upset about it, did he change his mind.

The moment he did, he had two choices

>Go balls deep and let it all get torpedo'd
>Back out, and look like a flip flopping fish that cares more about what people think of him.

All he had to do was just never cross it in the first place.

I'm not gonna get "le uber ass blast twibber" levels of mad, but I am rightfully angry at a flagrant disregard for principal.

>>153942118
It is.
Don't listen to anti-AI contrarians, he can still make good pencilkino anyways

He’s genuinely just better off not using ai from a financial standpoint.

>>153942118
wew

>>153953748
I’m still mad too, but if he makes something else (without AI) I’ll end up checking it out. Sucks that he got so tempted to actually be able to make something original that he thought using AI in an assistive capacity wouldn’t be so bad, but at least he backed out.

>>153953533
I actually saw some teenager tweet at him "at least you learned a lesson, but you're on thin ice for now."
His signing up for that program in the first place sucks ass, but people trying to preach at him after he already withdrew is super cringe.

>>153955747
Is it a surprising sentiment? If you trust someone to not do something and they do it even if they walk it back that trust is no longer what it once was.

>>153956003
>If you trust someone to not do something
this is some serious parasocial retardation it's not your concern how he makes cartoons beyond whether you choose to watch them or not

>>153955643
I'm not above thinking he can redeem himself. But at the best, he'll never live it down.

>>153956059
It *can* be parasocial depending on whether you see it as a personal betrayal or not which is dumb but if a creator you trust not to do dumb shit does some dumb shit you're not going to trust them as implicitly as you might have before that's just natural.

>>153956003
I think trying to discipline a grown ass man like he's an infant is cringe as fuck, especially when it's coming from some fuck head
Dude made a mistake. He's either going to learn from it or not. I read A LOT of responses to the initial announcement and I think most of what people were saying was fair. They expressed disappointment, some gave their reasons, and in general people seemed sad that out of all people, he was the one to be involved with that program. Those comments were fair and measured.
After he had sat with those comments (which must have been a tough wakeup call) he withdrew from the program. It was less than 24 hours after the announcement.
What's cringe is that cancel happy dipshits then felt the need to comment on his decision to withdraw by dancing on his grave. He knows. He already made the right call. Notice, the other two shows are proceeding as planned.

I think he was justifying it in his head because he wasn't using AI in a generative capacity. We actually don't know how it was used, but from the way he was describing it, it seemed like he was using it to essentially do the inbetweening for him. I'm not trying to excuse it and I think it's shitty that his endorsement of AI would have essentially helped normalize the tech in extremely damaging ways, but I can also see why he may have been able to think that maybe this specific type of use was not so bad and more akin to puppet/flash animation.

Either way, he's a grown ass man. You can personally decide not to trust him ever again, but what's done is done. Commenting on his correct decision to withdraw from the program that you'll still never trust him is some uber-autist shit. Who fucking cares?

The comments on his original announcement helped convince him to withdraw. The comments on his announcement that he withdrew are masturbatory.

>>153956117
>he'll never live it down
Are you going to dye your hair blue next? What the fuck is up with this cancel culture shit?
I'd agree that he would never live it down if he went through with producing the show. But trying to hold someone accountable for a mistake they ALMOST made is fucking retarded. This is the same "wrongthink" shit that anons love to criticize other people for. He thought that maybe his specific use of the tech wouldn't be so bad. People offered very valid concerns he hadn't considered, and he changed his mind.

If he flirts with adopting AI again, sure...go scorched earth. But in this case his biggest mistake was thinking that maybe adopting aspects of AI into a work flow would be akin to adopting digital tablets or flash. There are ethical issues with that assumption that he hadn't considered and when they were pointed out to him, he withdrew. He doesn't have a pattern of shitty behavior aside from this one slip up, so I think he should be able to eventually move on.

What more do these people want? It just feels like they won't be happy until he's blacklisted, life ruined, and kills himself, all for a mistake he changed his mind over before he made it

>>153956670
It has nothing to do with cancel culture lol, just because some dipshits come at it that way doesn't mean my perspective isn't valid. He made a dump decision, he changed course after massive public outcry and pressure from his peers, it's a good thing he reversed his decision but at the same time it's still gonna affect his general perception since he was going to go through with it in the first place. I'm not saying I'm *never* going to trust him again but he still has a lot of filling he needs to do with that hole he dug and that's not going to be solved overnight. It's the same shit as a developer that releases hit after hit releasing a mediocre game, they're no longer going to be the golden boy even if they start releasing better games again.

>>153957149
they want exactly all what you mentioned, for them the other is nothinng but an enemy, no matter the apoligize, the new paradigm your life can have, etc. That's why you don't reason with them, because they are the ones who decide not to reason first.

>>153957309
at this point all will ever get is low quality drivel because cancel culture keeps chasing out the good talent for the most minor of mistakes

>>153957200
Let's take your idea of penance at face value. What, in your opinion, would Jorge need to do in order to make amends? Like...he does the thing you say and he's able to make things again without people holding this thing that he was THINKING about doing against him?

>>153946455
Because they own the country

>>153942692
many shall prostitute themselves to babylon, to spare themselves of the wrath of the beast.
The Lord shall smite them regardless.

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>>153957200
>It's the same shit as a developer that releases hit after hit releasing a mediocre game, they're no longer going to be the golden boy even if they start releasing better games again.
This is one of the dumbest fucking things I've seen in a long time. Expecting someone to ONLY release hit after hit is unreasonable. Some games are going to be better than others. If a mediocre game is enough to make you lose faith in a developer when previously they had an extended track record of only hits, then you are exactly what is wrong with most fandoms. It's even worse that you'll still hold that single MEDIOCRE game against them even if they release hits after that.
What a fucking faggot.

>>153957344
It has nothing to do with penance, once you fuck up even if you try to walk it back there's no closing pandora's box. Time plus no repeating of the fuck up will make it easier but the trust will never be as it once was. This has nothing to do with person to person feelings, it's a matter of consumer trust.

>>153942692
Im glad he backed down from it tho

>>153957353
>to spare themselves of the wrath of the beast.
sounds more like him backing out because of the twitter trannies harassing him than anything else

>>153957402
Nigga if consumers agreed with animation twitter the shows they love would actually sell instead of fail spectacularly. These are mainly losers who twitch in their pants when they have any impact on the lives of others and spend 5 hours per day spreading nonsense.

>>153957530
Do not reply to me pedo schizo

>>153957391
>gamers are the problem, you're just entitled!
heard all this shit before bro

>>153957546
Raped, zoomie. Keep crying and maybe I'll actually get a pedo boner for destroying your infantile ass

>>153957402
>once you fuck up even if you try to walk it back there's no closing pandora's box
So cancel culture it is, then.

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>>153948100
He shared the Frankelda trailer with this comment not long after the announcement

>>153957593
The only thing you raped is your niece lol

>>153957660
Cancel culture implies a moral element, that's not what I'm talking about.

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>>153957691
what you get out of cancel culture does not apply to cancel culture at large.
You're saying that he fucked up once so he's marked forever. That's cancel culture. Same shit. You don't like to look in the mirror, but there it is. You have a choice. Either confront it and choose to change or you can pretend like you're not the same while actually being exactly the same.

>>153957680
Everything you say sounds raped dude you're a fish in water and don't troon out with an incest fetish on me
>>153957691
>amoral worshiper of corporate cock
I'm so glad my harassers are going absolutely nowhere in life

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>>153944344
Just watch Santos vs La Tetona Mendoza

>>153957714
Cancel culture isn't cancel culture without the moral grandstanding, that's like the primary motivation of it. I do not owe anyone my personal trust, it is freely given until it's broken. You can screech all about "muh autism" and "muh cancel culture" all you want but that doesn't change anything.

>>153957674
That's definitely a dig, but not nearly as direct as I was anticipating. Still, good for him. I think GdT voicing indirect opposition helped change his mind.

Again, I won't hold it against him forever. I'm sad that someone who had previously been such a champion for creativity and independent spirit COULD be seduced, but I also think it's a good cautionary tale that nobody is impervious.

I'm proud that the community rejected the idea en masse, but I'm equally as proud that Gutierrez reversed course. It fucking sucks that he temporarily gave into temptation, but he made the right choice in the end and I'm guessing this is the last we'll see of Jorge Gutierrez flirting with AI. LIke I'd said before...there were three shows. The other two are continuing as planned.

>>153957773
ok ok
>CANCEL THE FUCKER. YOU MADE A MISTAKE ONCE SO YOU SHOULD NEVER FUCKING WORK AGAIN
>but not for...like...moral reasons. I just morally oppose the use of AI, but I'm not grandstanding when I grandstand.

>>153957722
take your meds and stop raping your niece

>>153957769
This does not look nearly as badass. I'll check it out, but my expectations are low

>>153957793
Bro all I said was "you fucked up, I'm not gonna trust you anymore" and for some reason like a retard unable to differentiate things beyond their most basic superficial elements keep wrongly associating it with cancel culture for some reason. What the fuck do you think cancel culture means? You're inventing a fake argument in your head, I don't even oppose AIslop for moral reasons I just think it looks like garbage.

>>153957797
You're a loser bro
>>153957773
>>153957838
Nobody cares about cancel culture out of morality loser, they're after the rush of destroying someone as you are right now.

>>153957838
If you subscribe to the tenants of cancel culture than you are a part of cancel culture. It fucking stings I know, but that's how it works.

I asked what it would take for him to be able to regain trust if he isn't "canceled" in your eyes. You dodged the question. The reasonable assumption would be that you didn't answer because there isn't anything he could actually do because in your eyes he is canceled after ALMOST making a single mistake.

Ergo, you subscribe to cancel culture. You don't have to identify with the other cancelers, but you are a part of them nevertheless.

>>153957881
Can't be as big a loser as you considering I don't suffer from schizophrenia and didn't try to rape my niece or cope with my lack of artistic skill or creativity with AIslop

>>153957899
First, explain what you think "cancel culture" is because you obviously have some weird definition if you think not immediately trusting someone on a personal level after they fuck up is a part of it. As for my personal definition of trust, if you lose it then it's gone for good. I don't owe anyone or anything my trust, it's just that shrimple. I don't know why you keep frothing yourself with outrage over it. Trust is not a moral judgement, someone can lose my trusts for all sorts of reasons.

>>153957908
Nah bro youre rationalizing for an hour that just because you absorbed what your Dommy Mommies said into your neurology and automatically reject a problematic person without thinking it means you're not woke
You're woke, a loser, and a faint shell of the man you could've been.

>>153958028
Can't be as big a loser as you considering the untreated schizophrenia and attempted rape of family.

>>153958002
>not immediately trusting someone on a personal level after they fuck up
you're operating in levels of black and white. I didn't say you should "immediately" trust him. I asked if he could be redeemed and if so, what it would take.
>if you lose it then it's gone for good
so when someone makes a mistake then they're canceled in your eyes

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>>153958086
>you're operating in levels of black and white
So? My trust for people/things is binary. It is freely given until it's taken away and not given back. Redemption has nothing to do with trust, you keep trying to cram this all through a flawed moral lens and I've already made it clear I reject your false premise.
>so when someone makes a mistake then they're canceled in your eyes
lmao why the fuck do you equate not trusting someone on a personal level as "cancelling" them? What the hell do you even mean? You're just parroting words you don't really know at this point.

how many fucking threads do you retards need for this bullshit

>>153958173
as many as it takes. Sorry to distract you from your 50th TADC thread

>>153958140
>he still has a lot of filling he needs to do with that hole he dug and that's not going to be solved overnight
My question pertained to your own statement. What does he need to do to fill that hole?
If the answer is that there's nothing he can do, then I have my answer

>>153942118
If you're into sleazy grindhouse shit, it's pure kino. If not, then it may not be for you

>>153958219
In terms of trust? Yeah. Again, explain to me what you think cancel culture is and why you think forgiving someone also means having to fully trust them. I've answered many of your questions and you've yet to even entertain that singular one which is the crux of your entire inane "argument"

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>>153957309
Many of us are relieved, but this isn't something we can just "forget." Sure, Jorge's always been into experimental animation (that was his literal major at CalArts, plus he directed that VR short for Google a few years back), but he knew good and well what the conversation's been regarding generative aislop these last few years.

We still love his works and respect his legacy, but this whole ordeal also showed us how quick he is to change his tune if the paycheck's big enough. All the more hypocritical considering his "Hollywood... " shtick that's been a major part of his social media presence lately. I wish the best for him and look forward to what he does next, but his Wikipedia page will always have this shitty Amazon MGM situation included.

>>153942118
El Sell out

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>>153958258
>In terms of trust? Yeah

>>153958317
>generative aislop
I think that's where the disconnect is. From what little has been divulged, it seems that his plan was to use the tech in an assistive capacity (like doing inbetweens). I don't agree with that usage either, but I could see how a creator might differentiate that from prompting "Make me a video about this punky duck".

>>153958325
Still waiting for an actual definition instead of the constant histrionics you ironically accuse me of for some reason.

>>153956781
Because he just shouldn't have in the first place. It's not rocket science. If you spend your time on social media going "Yeah fuck AI!" and then cross the line because someone gave you a deal for it, that's a line you can't just uncross and everyone just goes "oh ok, back to normal now".

He still did it. And if the internet didn't get really upset at him for it, he probably wouldn't have changed his mind.

Also you're acting hyperbolic, I didn't say cancel the guy.

>>153957149
>What more do these people want? It just feels like they won't be happy until he's blacklisted, life ruined, and kills himself
That's the end goal, right?
I think a fair number of rational creators have thanked him for making the right decision. We can't expect everyone to immediately make the right call all the time. I think it's more concerning when someone displays a pattern of behavior that suggests that they never learned anything and essentially do whatever they can get away with. This does not describe Gutierrez.

Jorge has, in general, been a "creators first" sort of creator. It was shocking when he announced he was using assistive AI tech because it seemed so out of character for him. The community didn't pull their punches when they expressed disappointment and he ultimately changed course.

The people who rationally explained why they were upset were fine. The people who think he should never get work or try to dunk on him after he already withdrew from the program are extreme retards. What do they hope to accomplish other than maximize misery?

>>153958183
>Sorry to distract you from your 50th TADC thread
at least TADCtards are actually discussing cartoons

>>153958489
>The community
and how many of this "community" have actually ever created anything substantial

>>153958140
I think he's just mindbroken by the concept of canceling.

>>153958353
He called my post "blue hair" as well >>153956781

He has no interest in argument.

>>153958735
>how many of this "community" have actually ever created anything substantial
quite a few. I'm not going to go through all the responses and list every single one, but you can look at twitter and comb through the creators yourself. Who is and is not notable is up to you, but a couple "bigger" names:
Matthew Braly - Amphibia
Ross O'Donovan - Gameoverse
Kiana Mai - Pretty Pretty Please I Don't Want to be a Magical Girl
Samuel Deats - Castlevania

>>153942118
>El Guapo
>No "The handsome man"

If you want use mexican words, use "Le ki'ichkelem"

>>153958815
you should contact Jorge Gutierrez and tell him that. I'm sure he'd appreciate the lesson in español

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>>153958715
Talk about your favourite El Tigre episode, then. No one's stoppin ya.

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>>153956781
Anon, now you see why anti-AI are always lunatics.
They never cared about who uses the tech, they just want to boss people and treat them like sub-humans.

Ironically, all it does is push people towards using AI because there's nothing else to lose anymore.

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>>153942118
>Is it kino?
Claro que sí

>>153959338
naw, fuck AI.
But Gutierrez didn't use the tech.
People make mistakes or are sometimes misguided. If they can listen to reason and show change through action, I see no reason to hold a grudge. If they've shown a pattern of shitty behavior (meaning it's been repeatable), then that shows that they're not actually trying to change and are just trying to dodge consequences. In that case, fuck them.
>might as well just use AI then
you're a retard.

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>>153959405
Serious question: what do you guys (anti-AI) expect to happen?
You can't ban AI.
You can't erase or delete the BILLIONS of ai images and even videos already across the internet.

What is there to do except screeching and ripping your own hair out?
The genie is out of the bottle. Just move on with your life.

>>153957881
Shut the fuck up, guy

>>153959439
Ai is already losing its steam and companies are trying hard to push it to makes up for the loss of huge piles of money
I can't delete it but Ai generative images are just gonna become a small niche community that majority will look down on
It's a huge thrend that will end up in another economy disaster hope you enjoyed the images the bots made

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>>153957674

>Del Toro, I am humble
>For today I understand
>That art was always meant to be made by human hands
>You suffered great injustice
>so have thousands before you
>I offer an apology, one long overdue

>>153961140
Fuckin gay.
>>153958813
The common theme is people who care about social clout instead of serious study of drawing like an old master.

AI creates an existential crisis if it enables new creators to completely circumvent the social building they spent decades of their lives on to create a name for themselves, but rather do cartoons intended to simply impress the public meritocratically.