>set up insane amounts of mysteries throughout the series>do not answer a single one in the finale>make the finale a therapy session for yourself instead What’s this storytelling method called?
>>153944180Slop-eater gourmet, or Lore baiting.I hate both
>>153944180The storytelling method is called “let your fans find mysteries you never intended to be there so they think your show is deeper than the preschool romp that it actually is”.
>>153944211Also know as the Hellaverse method
>>153944180>set up insane amounts of mysteries throughout the series>do not answer a single one in the finaleWhat mysteries did they not address? And no, you not liking the answer does not mean they weren't addressed.
>>153944180This show is highly satanic because it was made by a trannysexualised and they kill GOD
But it would be ok if an anime did it? Seriously eva is confusing and never answered anything but nobody hates the way it told the story. Except me
>>153944180>taking cartoons literally
>>153944180its pretty based to take the piss out of lorefagstherapy and troon shit is cringe though
>>153944191Cope
>>153944262>>153944536
>>153944180Advanced Millennial Hackery
>>153944211They baited fake lore for multiple episodes with the NPC hidden in the background.
>>153944180>makes a cartoon about the message rather than loreslop>this breaks the mind of the autist that thinks every show must be a reenactment of Adventure Time or Five Nights at Freddy's
>>153944584>>153944618
>>153944618To be fair the show kinda looks like a mascot horror franchise
>>153944624I guess thats kinda of the issue, the artstyle grabbed too many people that thought this was gonna be Gravity Falls 2 for some godforsaken reason and now they wont forgive Goose for not caring to give an explanation on why kinger got a cake thrown in his head in episode 6 or whatever the fuck
>>153944180Millenial boomerism, the self-centeredness that boomers had has jumped a generation.
>>153944180>What’s this storytelling method called?The "it was a mistake to hire me." I can't wait for Glitch to realize that and quietly Memoryhole everything Cooper made for them, but I won't hold my breath.
>>153944652>the self-centeredness that boomers hadIs peanuts compared to that of the castration cult Cooper Goodwin was already part of when Glitch contacted him to make a show.
>>153944180Cooper clearly never intended to come up with awnsers for the show, so he just made it about himself.Yet he's such a pretentious fuck he would try competing his work to Evangelion. Faggot should kill himself just for that.
>>153944180>What’s this storytelling method called?Mentally ill pretentious douchebag or something like that.
>>153944951Nice cope
>>153945032Where?>buuhhh, wight hewe, duhhh, >>153944951, phplplplplpt!!!1!
>>153944262Even if you strip the lorebait from Evangelion the characters can still stand on their own, have flaws and interpersonal conflicts.In TADC the only one who brings any actual drama is Jax, and the others may as well stand in a circle singing kumbaya and saying how much they love being friends. Even Caine got accepted back in the group in the span of 5 minutes.
>>153944262What are your thoughts high? People criticize Eva all the time even the English voice actor.https://youtu.be/kGMuaXIlckU?si=-9O0nMRZbItNPib8
>Ummm ackashully it isn't a bunch of unresolved plot points it's LOREI fucking hate people who throw around the term "media literacy" but this is a blatant example of people not understanding how a story works. No, setting up something like its going to be important and then doing nothing with it isn't "lore."Lore is backstory and worldbuilding that exists to make the setting feel bigger than the central story. Bringing up C&A in practically every episode, showing us the empty offices and actively making you question what happened and where everyone went isn't "lore." It's an active part of the story in the forefront of things, central to how the events of the story even happened, and you just didn't finish telling the story.Abstraction is the central threat of the series, the active "ticking clock" that endangers everyone, but by the finale we know just as much about it as we did before. *Why* does it happen? *What* is it? You just "lose hope" and eventually turn into a multi-eyed chaos monster that freaks out in the light? Pomni's dialogue in Episode 8 implies that it might be inevitable after enough time. They even mention Caine tampering with people's minds and it causing Abstraction but that's never elaborated on.Lore is stuff that's not important, but interesting. This is shit that's clearly important but never gets a resolution. At least not in the leaked cut.
>>153944618The message being: troon out or you'll kill others and yourself if you're feeling feminine as a guyHonestly pretty funny how, with the Soma reveal, none of these characters matter because the plug will eventually be pulled and they'll all die. Hell regardless of the temporary happy ending, eternity will gnaw away at their psyche and the only one remaining will be Caine and probably Kinger for a stretch of time before whatever box they're on breaks
>>153945134>with the Soma revealWhat a fucking shame that cool game is forever tied with this trannycore series.
>>153945117>two episodes left>let's introduce this character who contributed to the creation of the Circus and is closely connected to two members of the main cast and never do anything with him
>>153945134>The message being: troon outIt's a cult show, by a cultist. This was obvious by the time Glitch was talking to him, or should've been. It wasn't, though, because this cult gets by entirely on the bubble of Tolerance™ created by centuries of progressive rot caused by the loss of Monarchy.
>>153945271>It's a cult show, by a cultist.Nah, lol. He's just a faggot who made a faggot show.
>>153945279>Look I changed the words!Retard.
>>153945288Listen, schizo. Idk where you got this idea that TADC is a cult but it really isn't. It's just a shit show.Simple as.
>>153945279>faggotYes, they're part of a similar cult.>>153945298>Idk where you got this idea that [Circus Shit] is a cultIt's not, it was made by a member of one.
>>153944211ah yes, the lost, deltarune, undertale, homestuck, steven universe method
>>153944262Eva unironically answers like 90% of its lore directly in the original series, it's just done through characters giving very quick one-off sentences or small glimpses of text that are spaced so far apart it's hard to connect the dots. In episode 3 you'll have Gendo mention something about Adam and then 10 episodes later you learn what Adam is and then another 10 episodes later you learn what Adam ACTUALLY is. There's just so much going on and it's spaced so far apart it slips your mind or you simply don't catch it.
>>153945134>none of these characters matter because the plug will eventually be pulled and they'll all die.We all die eventually, Anon. That doesn't mean our lives don't matter.
>>153946143Yes it does
>>153944180Where is the link to the leaked episode?
>>153944180>Starts out with big plans>Gives up before the endYup sounds like a troon
>>153946023Undertale doesn't do that. Maybe you could argue Gaster counts, but he's something you have to explicitly go digging into the code to find and has no bearing on the story at all.
>>153944180These transgender artists Like things from old works like mystery and horror and megalomania and what not, but did not make the life choices to become capable of them. They didn't embrace mystery and storytelling to discover things that can't be explained which is received by the audience like magic. Like Lovecraft’s indescribable monsters, etcAnd so they perform elements of classic works as scenery while the meat of their own art is what they really know: mental issues and oversocialization and existentialism.And so you can predict everything that happens in spirit. Of course it's all about Jax and his boy difficulties on the way to identity death and the characters are happy in real life and unaffected by all these hijinks wouldn't want to imply there's anything bigger in life than fitting in and self-medicating.
>>153944250>And no, you not liking the answer does not mean they weren't addressed.This is what it boils to, people are still obsessed with them being scans and not on life support pods even when the show goes out of it's way to tell them there isn't any pods.
>>153946333At least life support pods explain WHY they're there in the first place, and imply their existence will continue. >Oh were just scans>And we're running because: Who, what, where, when, and why?>Oh we're *these* literal who's from the real world (Kinger/other employees aside)
>>153946428They had an entire episode where they discarded that theory in the face of the audience.Being disappointed about the pods that were stated to not exist is like being disappointed at the lack of civilized discussion on a madmax film.
>>153945117Allegedly Gooseworx wanted to avoid mistakes of Murder Drones series. I'm not sure if that was really the case, but it's one hell of an irony given that more and more people find MD's rushed finale more to their liking since the leaks happened.
The focus of every episode was therapy-shit. The mysteries were never important. You psy-opped yourself into thinking it was a different show.
its a kids show anon its kids stuff, stop crying about it and lower your standards next time
>>153946501Its for adults most kids wouldn't even be able to relate to what the characters go through
>>153946501Kids shows should have the highest standards. They shouldn't teach “get ready to be mentally ill,” they should exemplify the greatness of society in a kid friendly way as Looney Tunes etc did.
>>153946536You underestimate kids.Remember we used to watch Rocko and other shit with adult humor for the shits and giggles.Fuck it I liked the Critic because it made fun of movies I liked when I was a kid.
>>153946428>We are brain scans>Oh damn, let's sulk long enough for Jax to fuck off and abstract for the plot60 minutes later>I am so glad that this other dude is living his best life with his loved ones, whom I thought were MY loved ones, while I am trapped here forever, I'm just SO happy
>>153946453IDGAF about the pods existing or not>My point was it explained shit in and of itself, arbitrary "scans" do not.>>153946468I guess "Always leave 'em wanting more" was the mistake in this case. >>153946473>The mysteries were never important.That's why they foreshadowed Abel since Ep.2, after establishing the outside world/amnesia/mystery in the fucking pilot.
>>153946568It was always scans, there was no exit.It was explained to you several times and you are too autistic to get it.
>>153946557TADC was never meant to be for kids as they would have a hard time grasping the plot or mature themes of the show
>>153946023Deltarune doesnt do that at all.
>>153946601FNAF did that all the way
>>153946578mid ending = ass ending
153946578>muh scans are the TRUE CANON again>I've never even argued against this. >Pods / scans aren't even my fucking point, just barely related to itYou're so unbelievably retarded. Fuck (You)
>>153946585And yet it's audience is kids and tweens, look at all the retarded content farms it spawned aimed at kids.Don't try to elevate this as mature to protect your ego, the audience of all glitch shit was always tweens 8-14.The fact that you pop a stiffy at some characters doesn't make the show mature.>>153946622Same difference I guess.
>>153946076Also none of the questions are answered in a satisfying way
>>153946722>Also none of the questions are answered in a satisfying wayDo you mean TADC or Eva?>Congratulations! on getting dubs
>>153946610FNAF did that to a degree that I respect. That fucker was making WAY more creative shit before FNAF I dont blame him on cashing out, I would have done exactly the same thing
>>153946143Your life as a brainscan AI is about as consequential as that of a video game character, especially since abandoned. You can't do anything or influence anything outside of the remaining faggots in the circus meaning there's no further story to build aside from any new-gen chungus entering the circus having to be taught everything all over againThe only thing they could possibly build on is if there are several servers of Circuses and brainscans that have been copied and running simultaneously being connected all of a sudden, and that'll be interesting for maybe 2 episodes or so with all the "quirky what-if" faggots
>>153944180There's two mysteries and both of them are answered>SOMA theory is true>turns out Jax ghosted Ribbit until she killed herselfAnything else is a "Why don't they fly the eagles to Mordor" tier question
>>153946567Also>I'll forgive and accept you since you showed me this slideshow, Caine, even if you brutally mind raped us the whole show until now and can start doing that at any moment againWho writes this shit
>>153944525>its pretty based to take the piss out of lorefagsDHMIS did that way funnier
>>153947211B-But he meant well! H-He's a good boy! Let's forgive him!
>>153946557>Rockothat show was about going to the dmv, working, and buying products from tv, all things kids relate to and the giant hippo lady holding you between her breasts
>>153947211It's okay because it was the blue AI that Caine brutally mauled and devoured that was evil. Caine is a good boy!
>>153947211>>153947367I thought they were setting up a good conflict with Caine, both sides thinking they're the one being tortured and unable to understand one another. Instead we got IT STARTS WITH SORRY (and also if you have bad thoughts just get killed, come back to life and lobotomize yourself)
>>153947424That was the most confusing part, why the fuck was the blue one Gollum?And why did he say this? Was Abel into getting vored?
>>153947525
>>153944180everyone is doing that. the biggest example is toby fox who set up a bunch of plot lines that cannot be resolved in the 2 hour rpgmaker chapters he shits out every 2 years
>>153944180it's called the "Congratulations, Shinji" maneuver
>>153944191>>153944211Theorybaiting + Mystery Box Storytelling
didnt watch the movie but was the jax being afraid of corn shit ever expanded on?
>>153947466
>>153946585>hard time grasping the plot or mature themes of the showAh yes, they difficult to grasp plot of "people stuck in a videogame with a wacky AI"And the mature themes of "Don't be an asshole to other people" and "We should care about each other">TADC was never meant to be for kidsAnd that's too bad because if Goose didn't get his head stuck up his own ass he could make a great series for children
>>153944180So what happens if Jax holds his breath?He abstrACKS?
>>153944525>>153944618You two say that, yet I think that’s even more of an indictment on the show’s writing.Why are we wasting time (or even dedicating one of your nine episodes to) shitting on a subsection of fans most of your audience doesn’t care about or will remember in a few years when you could be using it to strengthen the emotional payoff and better justify the ending you want?
>>153944180>Pomni and Kinger can literally manifest stuff>NPC's becoming self aware>le void>Kinger can literally hack reality>Ragatha being left in the dust the entire series>Mask ribbon girl having suicidal tendency flashbacks IS this what it was like to be a fan of the series "Lost"?
>>153947886>or will remember in a few yearsThat's a good point - is TADC going to work as series outside of the context of online phenomenon that grew around it? Red herrings done for the sake of subverting expectations only seem to work when they are first introduced.
>>153948004>is [Circus Shit] going to work as series outside of the context of online phenomenon that grew around it?Does it even?
>>153944180Troonslop
>>153948031>Does it even?100M stuck around after the pilot, so it kinda did.
>>153944180I wonder how much TADC was going to rip off from The Talos Principle before going SOMA instead.
>>153948052100 million suckers born at the right moment. After YouTube spammed the pilot in every user's recommended (wonder why...), that sounds about right.
>>153944180Evangelion
>>153944536Fuck you, we have slop because of you.>>153947677Thanks.
>>153944618I'm going to be honest.What this series lacked was time. A series like this should last at least 12 episodes. If Gooseworxs wanted to cram in his backstories, he would have 5 episodes plus the others that followed the main plot.12 episodes, plus better creative work.Caine killing Zooble to create an actual conflict that can put the characters in death danger, Scratch as Bubble being the blue AI, and the mastermind behind everythingThis Would have been more interesting than all the Trauma nonsense that was the ending.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xevxDu03O7c&t=1sThe worst part is knowing this was made on purpose.
>>153948075did you know that TADC premiere got a sticky here and /x/? HMMMMMM
>>153948098Bullshit. Goose squandered 9 episodes, do you think 3 more episodes would do it? We'd just get 3 more side tangents, lore bait, and characters perfectly articulating their problems to the camera.
>>153948098>picThe fandom must've been shit the second it was announced, since the pilot was so atrocious. I can see that easily being the case...>The worst part is knowing this was made on purpose.The series was made by a castration cultist. If you expected a troon to make anything good, it's your own dumb fault.
>>153948137>expected a troon to make anything good, it's your own dumb fault.Ok,that may be my fault, but i can blame Glitch for making the series to short.
Imagine hating trannies on a fundamental level, and then for some reason deciding to earnestly spend three years watching them make a product that turns out to be one big trans allegory Seriously what the fuck did you all expect?
>>153948133lore/mystery baiting always does this. they do for the first 2-3 chapters/episodes and then they go off into shit they actually want to write and ignore all the "lore" they setup and never really intended to answer
>>153948204To late i know Gooseworx is a troon, in fact most of the people don't know he is.
>>153944258That sounds sort of lame.
>>153948098>>153948137>Don't be horrible fans>Proceeds to cater to the most horrible people you could in a fanbase such as shippers and troons
>>153948204Jokes on you, I only got into the series 3 weeks before the finale leaked and I didn't know that goose was a tranny until after the fact. And even then, just goes to show that the cis white males you hate so much still have more tolerance they your sorry ass does.
>>153948235You reap what you sow.
>>153948192>i [sic] can blame Glitch for making the seriesYou can indeed, as well as hiring the "person" who made it.>>153948204>spend three years watching themNon-applicable; the pilot sucked, so I didn't follow the series after the first half of that.>>153948235>>Proceeds to cater to [...] troonsExactly; Glitch should not have catered to Cooper Goodwin by offering him a series.
>>153944584Found the fan who found mysteries they never intended
>>153948204Despite it all, Troons once were good people. They still can be again. They just need to wake up.Their social circles chant about acceptance and understanding but they have no idea the levels to which they rely on others, just to not be torn to shreds.
>>153948192Blame the audience for bullying the creator into retirement
>I know writers who make their stories straight to the point and they are all morons>A true master of the craft like myself will know to spend as much time as possible on subplots, backstories and mysteries within the setting>This is done to trick the audience into thinking that all of it will be important later, while you pad the runtime and laugh at them on social media>Just like in my newest series: The Wonderful Cyber Big Top; where i distract everyone with mystery boxes for 8 episodes and a movie just to deliver a very thought provoking "don't be a doodoo-head" message
>>153948281For making the series TO SHORT, anon.12 or 13 episodes what this bullshit needed, this needed time to develop better... as well as better writing.
>>153948357>You reap what you sow.>>153948266
>>153944944What? TADC transformed Glitch from a somewhat obscure animation production company for autists into a near mainstream animation production company for autists. They made so much god damned money from it and it allowed them to get their merch into Hot Topic, a theatrical release, and become such a household name that the children of old college friends who aren’t even into animation know who they are. They aren’t going to “memoryhole” the show just because you didn’t like the last episode.Fucking spergs, man.
>>153944180You can thank FNAF for the popularity of loreslop like this
>>153944180He's stated multiple times that the concept for the show was thought up in an hour and written down on napkin
>people are discussing the writing and the story>one absolute autist can't stop sperging about TEH TROONS
>>153948395Glitch also have the fault, anon.Like ask yourself one thing: How does Sega, despite having the second most disgusting fandom in history, Sonic's, still manage to stay so successful?
>>153948395It's kind of wild that your own fanfic ending will be better then what the actual ending is. Here's mine.>Through the power of friendship Pomni becomes the new god and having empathy for NPC's lets their programing run forever. >Turns out there is no escape and that they are just copies but the residents learn to accept their situation by getting into roleplaying, sometimes even forgetting their true selves in the process in some adventures.Boom. Done. It wraps everything up, still holds onto the shizo esoteric themes and is more satisfying
>>153947677The JJ Abrams school of hackery
>>153948204>big trans allegory>jax is a misogynist >serial abuser>fantasizes about sexually assaulting lesbians>assaulted own mother>ends up killing himself>irl jax is an entirely normal man who beat his flawsone of the most well written trans characters ever. brutally honest. chuds could never write something like this.
>>153948439Troon shit is a core aspect of the show, you just don't like it because its criticizing you. You lost.
>>153944180It's just ye goode and olde Mystery Box.Very effective in keeping people interested and theorizing for years and years.Just take a look at FNaF, for example.It often works, but it has a VERY high tendency of just being frustrating when the end is finally reached.
>>153948343>Troons once were good peopleUsually, you need to already be a ghoul to get pushed in the cult's direction, so that doesn't sound likely.>Their social circles chant about acceptance and understandingFor the cult, yes.>>153948366>For making the seriesAt all, yes.>this needed time to develop betterWhat, waiting for the magical moment that'll never happen; when Cooper "de-transitions," realizes he made slop, demands the series be removed while he starts over with his public life?>>153948395>[Circus Shit] transformed Glitch from a somewhat obscure animation production company for autists into aLaughingstock, in less than three years.>They aren’t going to “memoryhole” the show just because you didn’t likeI didn't like a single second of the show. Frankly, I think it proves to me that the castration cult should never be allowed to touch media creation, and Glitch will only redeem themselves when they realize this and remove this blemish from their legacy in whole.>>153948439See above.
>>153948524Please talk to your therapist about your unhealthy troon obsession
>>153948441What are you talking about? Glitch isn’t failing. Glitch is still successful despite a bunch of autists having a meltdown over the ending of TADC. It’s the same thing. Disgusting fandom but still successful.
>>153948441By being at its core a gambling company that doubles as a Yakuza front, where Sonic is more than likely used in some sort of money laundering scheme.You are over inflating Sonic’s worth man.
>>153946161This guy looks like he fucks pantless robot women.
>>153948556>Sonic>inflatingenough with the fetishes
>>153944250Why did they imply abstraction was Caine deleting their software when it's actually just suicide?Better yet, what IS abstraction? Is it corruption or self deletion? If Caine can just will himself back why can't the others?How are the C&A systems somehow still online if the place was abandoned?Why did Goose want to release this shit in theaters? It blew chunks over the rest of the show and made the entire series feel like jaxbait with no decent payoffWhy did Kinger never acknowledge the existence of the other AI? They imply it's Bubble but never really do anything with it.What happened the last time someone brought in an NPC and Caine mistook it for a humanHow did nobody realize they were brain scans sooner, not a single person said what year they went inWhy did Kinger never actually figure out a gameplan to stop Caine sooner or at least tell the others what the deal is with the circus. He may as well be the main villainWhat was Jax's secret that he was so afraid to tell anyone? It's implied that he is trans or gay but never really seems to be elaborated upon further
>>153948544>opposing a militant cult and wanting to eliminate their means of promoting themselves means you're obsessed with themI was a teenager once, I saw Mean Girls, you're not clever.>>153948545>Glitch isn’t failingFinancially, no. In terms of credibility, that plummeted whenever Cooper Goodwin was first contacted.
>>153944180>What’s this storytelling method called?self-indulgency for the special eds.Superficiality by pretending to be sensitive.
>>153944180I feel like Goose had a concept for a film that needed to be stretched into a series. I think all the people saying she needed more episodes have it backwards. There’s like 3 big ideas behind TADC. The rest feels like filler fluff because that’s what it is. More time to work things out wouldn’t have made a difference because there was nothing to explore. It just would have opened more mystery boxes as Goose tried to figure out how to fill out yet another episode before getting to the parts that were actually part of the original concept.
>>153948441You seem to put fandoms onto a pedestal if you believe that they have this much power.It’s almost genuinely creepy.
>>153948650>I think all the people saying she [sic] needed more episodes have it backwardsCorrect, he needed zero.
>>153948625>opposing a militant cultIf you think sperging out on 4chan is opposing anything then you are hilariously mistaken
>>153944180This show has 0 mysteries besides “how can they get out the circus” and that was answered. Anything else was just fans making shit up to theorize about to feel smart.
>>153948625> In terms of credibilityNo. Spergs are mad right now, but it will pass. (You) may never get over this, but people in general will.
>>153948693If my opposition meant nothing here, you wouldn't have to try so hard.
>>153948731No nigga they're just making fun of you.
>>153948724>Spergs are mad right nowWere they mad in 2023? No? Then you missed the point.
>>153948722>t. nooseworx
>>153948748Because I'm not licking the anointed Ghoul Priest's mutilated taint, right.
>>153948722>This show has 0 mysteries besides “how could Glitch have ever thought this was a good idea in the long run?”Fixed.
>>153948471Fnaf is made by a crazy dude that makes a mystery box that even he’s trying to know.
>>153948608>Why did Kinger never actually figure out a gameplan to stop Caine sooner or at least tell the others what the deal is with the circus.He loses it when he comes into the light and didn’t know about it for years.
>>153944180>mysteriesWhat mysteries?There were mysteries?>>153948608>the mysteries were the plotholes and tolkienisms!Oh, right.So, a "Mystery" is when the show asks "Who shot Mr Burns?", an unresolved mystery is not telling you.Now this >>153945117 is accurate to what the problem is. And >>153945156 imagine if him having a tumour meant anything!
>>153948343they were men onceand they still are
>>153944584Speaking of that, Abel was hinted at as early as the Pilot, well before Caine had a single inkling that any of the circus dwellers (other than Zooble) hated his adventures.What’s that about?
>>153947750No. I think it's just a tranny meme like owning an IKEA shark and wearing stockings. Nobody actually has trypophobia
>>153947466Did you miss the entirety of episode 8? Caine was never a bad guy in the first place and Bubble corrupted him.
>>153947610*every 4 years
>>153944180The problem is zoomers think shows don't need to have plots anymore. They think we need more "filler" and "character driven storytelling" that basically just amounts to OCs saying quirky things in a void. Plot is the meanie icky yucky thingy that ruins shows and characters are the only thing that matters. Then they complain about a story being a mess when it ends because the show never took it's own plot seriously. What they don't seem to realize is you can do both. You can have a plot while also having characters be characters. TADC is exactly what happens when you put characters first and plot second. The problem isn't TADC is lorebaiting you, the problem is it's moments exist to serve whatever emotion the creator wants the character, and by extension you, to feel at the moment. The exit door in TADC literally only exists so Pomni can have a scary chase scene. Kinger's dead wife simply exists to give him trauma. Gangle being a fast food wagie is just so she can be manic for an episode. Ribbit exists to give Jax trauma. Kinger's daytime amnesia exists so he can add mystery to the show and not give away all the secrets episode 1. The truth is, unless you have infinite money and episodes, focusing on plot primarily is always the smarter move. TADC's ending was destined to be bad since it never had a real plot to begin with. All of the problems of this show are caused by the "character driven" meme that's infested shows nowadays.
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>>153949319Care to elaborate?
>>153949278I never said he was evil, if anything he had understandable reasons for being the way he was and the evil AI corruption+his asspull resolution+instantly being forgiven by the others ruined any complexity he could have had.Also>Kinger says he was his greatest achievement>they never interact
>>153948608>If Caine can just will himself back why can't the others?Caine is just built different. And who knows, maybe if Kinger had tried to delete someone else's file, they too would have simply respawned in the void.>What happened the last time someone brought in an NPC and Caine mistook it for a humanMy guess is that there was a body-swapping adventure, someone swapped bodies with an NPC, went back to the circus, Caine tried to delete the "NPC", and it abstracted instantly.>Why did Kinger never actually figure out a gameplan to stop Caine sooner or at least tell the others what the deal is with the circus. He may as well be the main villainNobody asked him, and everyone was too busy with adventures to pay attention to Kinger's insane ramblings. Plus, before episode 8 there had never been any urgent cause to stop Caine.>What was Jax's secret that he was so afraid to tell anyone?I don't know and don't really care. Maybe he self-harmed, was into anal vore, committed manslaughter and never got caught, was afraid of the number 13, or maybe he just told his mom he loved her.
>>153944211Aka the Gravity Falls method.
>>153948608>Why did Goose want to release this shit in theaters? It blew chunks over the rest of the show and made the entire series feel like jaxbait with no decent payoffi think i read somewhere that the theater release was just done so it had a chance at winning an oscar
>>153948556>YakuzaWhat.
David Lynch with AIDS,an extra dose of ASD,BPD,and HRT to boot. Auto-lynchian
>>153948652The power of ruining your show's image, yes.
>>153949309>the problem is it's moments exist to serve whatever emotion the creator wants the character, and by extension you, to feel at the moment.Welcome to storytelling 101.>Gangle being a fast food wagie is just so she can be manic for an episode.I appreciate you're having a problem with these character revelations and feel they're undeserved. Can you find better words to help explain it? Like: "The story is a string of things that happen. When character depth is revealed it only matters for the current scene and never comes up again. No-one grows as a person either, for example when Pomni tells Jax to "Be there later", or stands up to Cain to buy time, it feels like forced writing, not a big moment that happened because of a sum of her experiences." because that's a problem I have with the show.
>>153948608>Why did [Cooper] want to release this shit in theaters?To promote and normalize the castration cult. That was the goal from the moment he was hired, and it's the goal of every troon with Hollywood ambitions. They'd never say "no," anyway; the anti-culture wouldn't allow it.
>>15394836110/10
>>153949627People speculate that SEGASammy has or had genuine connections with the Japanese mafia.
>>153948361Fuck you Gooseworx.
>>153949676Wow
>>153949660In garbage standards.
>>153948395>and it allowed them to get their merch into Hot TopicThat was already a thing with Murder Drones, anon. TADC simply did so in a larger volume.
>>153945117>Bringing up C&A in practically every episodedidn't happen lol
>>153950014Actually they did, since ep 1.
>>153948343>Troons once were good peopleUnnatural Body-horrors will always be Unnatural Body-horrors.
>>153946468There is zero fucking chance anyone looked at the Murder Drones finale and said "You know what the problem with this is? Too many coherent resolutions to subplots and answered questions. They really needed to leave us hanging!"
>>153950103I can understand someone saying "they overexplained things, they took out all the interesting mystery." but you can resolve a plot point *without* over-explaining it. The solution obviously isn't just making all your shit unimportant, right?Am I the crazy one here? Murder Drones fans, I'm sending out an SOS here: Am I the crazy one? Am I taking crazy pills? Did you guys all collectively say "our show's ending sucks because too much of the stuff that actually happened in the show mattered." ?
>>153950103>>153950265I'm honestly having trouble with understanding what you two are on about.
>>153945134If i was a retarded little monkey with the brain completely melted into goo by politicslop like you i would also probably think that is the message of the show, so i dont blame you.
>>153950265The Murder Drones finale was pretty good, actually. But I do think it could have done without the 20 minute epilogue where N excitedly explained the Falkland War to a supportive but clearly disinterred Uzi. Especially since N's take on it was clearly biased in favor of the crown.
>>153950347>a retarded little monkey with the brain completely melted into goo by politicslopTrans-lation: "Stop noticing."
>>153950374No the translation is for you to stop being a schizophrenic little faggot and to either become a normal human being again or kill yourself
>>153946863>someone else remembers The Desolate HopeMy man.
>>153950365Their ending is like a season ending, which mean they might consider make a season 2.
>>153950365Especially since, if anything, it would have been way more in-character if Uzi were extremely interested but totally unsupportive.
>>153950386>either become a normal human being again or kill yourselfI'm not a member of the castration cult, or one of its numerous capitulators, so that's taken care of.
>>153945117>Lore is stuff that's not important, but interestingThat's important, TADC is nothing but style over substance.
>>153950365>was clearly biased in favor of the crown.
>>153950455The style being that of of-the-era YouTube Kids slop, for totally-not-nefarious reasons...
>>153950490idk man I don't know shit about Murder Drones or the Falkland War...
>>153950504Yeah, content farms are and are still being a problem.
>>153950365>Especially since N's take on it was clearly biased in favor of the crown.Did you really expect anything better from a *former* genocidal mass murderer?
>>153949309>They think we need more "filler"Literally the opposite of what Zoomers think
>>153950564Funny that the serious "indie" series would willingly emulate that problem, under the stewardship of a member of a chemical-and-physical-castration cult known for targeting and promoting its ideology to children...
>>153949309TL;DR: Shows today and zoomers love trauma core media without any actual plot going on.
>>153950607>Mass murderer N>So sweet and wholesome, have a girlfriend! >Jax who shoved his mom once >Literally Hitler, go die alone! Why the fuck are those two tumblr sexymen being treated in such a wildly different manner?
>>153950679You know, I was going to make a smart ass comment about the double standards only to realize that these same morons probably hate their mother because of the social media conditioning they went through.
>>153950028where are the references in eps 2-6 then
>>153950365>the Murder Drones finale was pretty good>in hindsight to the dumpster fire ADC’s finale wasI remember a lot of people (and myself) quite disappointed with it.But if a narcissistic, disingenuous cluster fuck is the only alternative these days, I’ll either quietly take disappointed or stop watching entirely.
>>153950713Not the same audience dumbass, if you want an actual case study of difference of treatment between two "tumblr sexymans" you can just pick caine, he got redeemed in the end because he changed, jax did not
>>153950816>he got redeemed in the end because he changedOh, how convenient, 11th hour salvation.
>>153948608>What was Jax's secret that he was so afraid to tell anyone? It's implied that he is trans or gay but never really seems to be elaborated upon furtherIRL Jax isn't a troon, and Jax is insecure about his masculinity but also horny for Gangle and Evil Pomni, so it's most likely that he's a sissy who wants to wear frilly panties and be bent over and gaped. But really it's meant to be vague enough to project general sexual neurosis onto.
>>153950713>have a girlfriendExcept said gf is like evil Pomni, but with autism. No thanks.
>>153948846This explanation is retarded. You're telling me that in his decade of existence, there was never a moment before this show when Kinger was somewhere dark, and if there was, not once did he think "wait, what are we doing? Oh, fuck, this nightmare claimed my wife. I need to end this NOW?"
>>153944180I dare to say people will make a fanfic with a better ending than this bullshit, mark my words, this will happens.
>>153950920Just wait as everything burns.
>>153950713>Why the fuck are those two tumblr sexymen being treated in such a wildly different manner?I know you're being dishonest for the meme, but the two situations are massively different. Jax is an abhorrent asshole out of his own volition and because Gooseworx has mental issues. N was literally brainwashed into thinking he was a disassembly drone created and sent by his parent JcJenson company to disassemble rogue worker drones and that he was fulfilling his purpose. And he IMMEDIATELY changes his ways once it becomes clear that's not the truth - because a sadistically evil eldritch abomination actually created him and the other murder drones to be its robot vampire genocide pets and it tricked him into thinking he was a regular robot sent by humans quite literally for shits and giggles. N is treated differently from Jax because he's genuinely a good person that's being horribly fucked with by an eldritch god because he unfortunately happens to be that eldritch god's favourite plaything. Not a "misunderstood tumblr sexyman with gay tumblr issues".
>>153951162Also N FUCKS pussy HARD. Like a REAL man.
>>153944180Cooper, this is no time for caution
>>153950810>I remember a lot of people (and myself) quite disappointed with it.It was good. The show is just short and suffers from the limited episodes. I think the main frustration comes from people just wanting MORE. Which is in a way good, because people enjoyed it enough to want as much, but some more episodes to pad things out would have made the show almost perfect.
>>153944191I went into this phase, and now doing either just bores me. What do I do?
it was made by a guy that thinks hes a girl why did people expect anything good to come of that
>>153951517Turns out most /co/ users are just as delusional
>>153950713>Jax is an asocial douchebag who actively rejects anyone trying to help him>N immediately changes his ways once someone convinces him of the error of his ways
>>153951517didn't he send porn to a minor once?
>>153950713Yeah N was forcibly converted into a genocidal robot vampire against his will to serve robo-satan then had his memories fucked with, and quickly switched sides and showed his good nature when it was proven his existance is a lie. So no shit people treat N different to Jax.
TADC is just an orgy of red herrings. The minute details in the environment are more interesting than cast-driven plots where everyone needs a therapy session, but the writer isn't giving them any scenes where they just talk about things like people.It's all "one part of the brain conversing with another because the mental bandwidth of the writer processes their internal feelings like this is Inside Out"All the characters are just self-inserts of Goose, each a small core of her personality.
>>153950888>Evil Pomni but with autismI'm not hearing a single downside.
>>153951626>I'm not hearing a single downside.There isn't one. That anon is just too cowardly to go down the gremlin sperg hole.
>>153951621>The minute details in the environment are more interestingThis is why I thought this show was actually going to go somewhere.
TADCsisters... He made another one...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9CGFhmdmkA
>>153951833Why are they like this. I can't even say they are sheltered because they enjoy youtube videos talking about Silent Hill 2 or Berserk.
>>153951833AHAHAHAHA
>>153951833fucking kino hope this blows up
>>153951833>I'M GOING TO PIBBY GLITCH MYSELFBravo, Gooseworse.
>>153951833>Phineas Zooble Fucking gold.
>>153944258>Cain
>>153951833Oh my
>>153952391KEK
>>153951833Is this the same person who made the other one? They'd better be careful not to overextend. Repetition kills all artists.
Reminder that goose literally had an existential crisis over this comment.
>>153952748For real?What happened?
>>153952748Goose was on the verge of abstracting, anon.
>>153952761>goose replies to fair criticism with an alt account and strawmans it>redditor that doesn’t know it’s her replies with fair and levelheaded criticism >Goose proceeds to freak the fuck out for multiple days>community goes after the Redditor for hurting goose’s feelings with tame criticism >redditor refuses to back down>finale was 100% predicted by the same Redditor Unironically based Redditor.
>>153951626On top of her autism, Uzi is extremely needy for validation from spending her formative years with her dad neglecting her and occasionally using public platforms to bully her for not sharing his obsession with doors (e.g. his literal TED talk about how much of a disappointing failure she is).
>>153952835 (me)>>153951626*emotionally neglecting
>>153952821Was this during the production of the movie that there was no turning back?
>>153952821>finale was 100% predicted by the same Redditor>Unironically based Redditor.For real. He did?Is there a screenshot?
>>153952748Why did Goose hate our girl so much. Ragafans are probably the most sane.
The funniest thing is that waht gt people into this was "the lore" and "mystery", when there was basically none - while the actual main good aspect of the show was just the comedy. Comedy that was slowly dropped as the show went on.
>>153952863>Why does a tranny resent an actual woman?Real puzzler, that one.
>>153952868>the actual main good aspect of the show was just the comedyAnd I'm Richard Starkey.
>>153952748This is what will happen to (you) if (you) make that indie cartoon you've been dreaming of. If (you) get a crumb of success, everyone will bully (you) off of reddit.
>>153952809I really wish "abstracting" would become a pseudonym for trannies killing themselves. Would be hilarious. We must make it so.
>>153952912>bulliedIs that what TADCfags consider bullying?
>>153952930I can’t be a girl. I’m going to abstract!
People will really use transphobia accusations to defend anything won’t they?>If you don’t like the finale you are just a big meanie TRANSPHOBE. You need to praise it if you want to be a good person!
>>153952992That's what it's for.
>>153952992It's worked on normies for the past 60 years with calling them racist
>>153944180Indie showrunners don't owe you anything
>>153953054The feeling is mutual
>>153952931What do you consider bullying
>>153952992It worked on Glitch. Mr. Goodwin didn't even need to make the accusation; the castration cult is just that Powerful in the modern West.
>>153952992>we want the performative audience
>>153952863Ragatha comes from a wealthy family, it's class resentment.
xrowesooG
>>153944180Mega based. Fuck lorefags
>people shitting on Goose are either groyper tier retarded chuds and 'teens or woke trannies with a brazillian pronouns and gay flags in their bioHorseshoe theory is real
>>153953200Or they just think Gooseworx is a shit showrunner you hyperpolitical retard.
>>153953200And let me guess, you are a perfectly reasonable centrist with little or no political bias but will show your shitty lolbert hand once the chips are down and refuse to fold
>>153953200I’m slightly left of center and do not give a fuck about Goose’s gender. The finale sucked ass from a writing standpoint.
>>153953281You never see freedomtoons's fans writing walls of text about how his show sucks
>>153953200Cooper Goodwin is a hack who owes his career to the progressive rot of the West giving unearned deference to a child-targeting, pseudo-medical cult of castration. The other members of the cult only hate him for being "bad representation," because his failure to convince will ultimately harm their push for normalization.
>>153953299>What about this political cartoonist that is right wing!thanks for proving my point. As shitty as Digital Circus was the only sperg outs it did was gender shit that people today are only able to pick up on because troons have infested every corner of society and never shut up.
>>153953337Cooper Goodwin made pretty good cartoons and soundtracks on their channel. The problem is that Goodwin lost all sense of sanity that he abstracted into a tranny and drowned his work into it.
>>153953337Goose made some great character designs and some good gags, the fumble was making TADC a serious show instead of an episodic gag comedy.
>>153953385>pretty good cartoons and soundtracksCitation needed.>their channelWho's the other owner?>he>his There, you got it right. Why the plural, "neutral" pronoun earlier, then?
>>153953424When they started doing trauma dumping segments I was getting worried things are going to get worse. The only exception was Gummigoo because it was a cool concept.
>>153953428https://youtu.be/zcFZTCqS5JI
>>153952748People keep posting this screenshot of a deleted comment which means dick all. Does anyone actually have what Goose had said?
>>153953428> Why the plural, "neutral" pronoun earlier, then?Felt better for the sentence. You are kinda deranged. Makes sense. The presence of confusion forms confusion like wild weeds on a nice and sane grassy field.
Is the “castration cult” anon a falseflag trying to discredit any sort of criticism of TADC or goose?
>>153953515Probably. It doesn't read as legit. More like some faggot that's trying too hard.
>>153953515Whatever he's doing is in bad faith or he's mentally underage.
>>153953515Nah. He’s just a man driven to madness by the sickos worshipping Satan and supporting his idealogy meant to warp and destroy humans and angels into abomination to the eyes of God.Tee hee
>>153953450>things are going to get worseYou watched the pilot and thought it would be good. You deserve the shit you're going to suck in theaters, with dozens of others.>>153953451And?>>153953485>Felt better for the sentenceNo reason, then. Got it.>>153953515>>153953527Why would something true discredit criticism?
>>153953460iirc it was something like "do people think ragatha isn't going to get any development?" which prompted that now deleted response
>>153949652>Welcome to Know Nothing 101The weirdest phenomena about people who cite "101" classes is it feels like they never took a 101 class. I think a literature 101 class would go over literary devices and make you read a bunch, then explain how and why they're used. Digital Circus is a pretty good case for how NOT to write. It's not that it's a good show, but it's a good show if your goal is to be promoted by a completely retarded computer program like the one Youtube uses.I see this all the time when people talk about economics, where they'll cite econ 101 and then say something wrong that econ 101 actually does cover if they'd taken the fucking class. The usual culprit is they'll talk about supply and demand being econ 101 because they don't know econ 101 also covers monopolies AND oligopolies and even teaches slightly more complex price curves because it's, you know, a fucking college course.Writing 101 is not going to encourage you to write like TADC.
>>153953561And then Ragatha didn't get any development. kek
>>153953515Probably read some dude's post on twitter and came here to shitpost
>>153953543Gooseworx and SMG4 are CODE plants. They're trying to prepare society for a mass digitization of the human consciousness as a means to control their dreams. Their plan is basically CODE Somnia...on acid.
>>153953582>some dude's post on twitterCould you find that post? I've never seen it.
>>153953586SMG4 is barely related to it, honestly. At best Mr. Puzzles has something like it and he’s mainly doing a tv show.
ill be so honest, when the controversy first happened i was struggling a lot with "they dont SEEM racist, just fucking stupid and saying slurs thinking its just edgy like a 14 year old. its still bad and ive lost respect for them but calling them racist seems too far" and "it doesnt matter what i think because im white and if the black community says go then we go"but now? burn goose's shitty empire down, glitch can go out of business idc. gamoverse did it in for me. cannot believe they released that steaming pile of shit of a pilot right after basically everyone involved with tadc was under fire for good reason.i cannot fathom how anyone gives a fuck about the leaks. who cares. the company is almost assuredly racist shitlords and we're bitching about leaks. eat year old socks and be quiet. im so tired
>>153953616What are the flaws of Gameoverse?
>>153953561which prompted that response* typo lel
This show was made by white people for white people
>>153953807how to be white 101
>>153953592This is the most recent popular one i found
>>153954098ominous trannyjak appearance.
>>153953657NTA. But it existing a huge flaw in our reality.
>>153954116Because it’s actually a good episode?
>>153954098Sanpaku eyes
>>153944618If Adventure Time had ended with Ice King and Freddy Fazbear trooning out and commiting suicide i'd agree with you
>>153954098And you think this is where I adopted the term "castration cult," which appears nowhere in the post?
>>153944180homestuck and evangalion
>>153944211undertale and deltarune do this and I don't see anyone complain, talk about double standards
>>153953448>Again, citation needed.The massive success of the show and the merchandise. Making a funny cartoon with marketable character designs was a $100 bill on the ground that no other currently working animator was willing to pick up until this troon did it accidentally.
>>153949309Obsessed oldfag blames zoomers for something they don't even want again
>>153954264Deltarune, sure. The update structure the game does is constantly blue balling people.But what exactly is in Undertale that does that? There's Gaster and what else?
>>153954264No they didn’t. Undertale and Deltarune was made by a creator that did give a shit about everything and put in intentional mysteries for people to explore.He came in and expanded the underground just so the fanons from the fans can expand on the underground with their own ideas.
The Amazing Dickless Cuck
>>153953616I'm very happy that Liam Vickers managed to get in with Glitch, make his successful show, Glitch grew from his success, and then he's moved onto whatever he's going to do next now that Murder Drones has finished. All while avoiding any gay twitter controversies and not giving any ammunition to the insane trannies that try to attach themselves to these shows. I feel proud of the guy. Especially now with the constant shitfests about Glitch. He really did come in and get out and the perfect time.
>>153954283>The massive success of the show and the merchandiseAnother born every minute.>a funny cartoonWhere?>marketable character designs To children, which makes me suspicious of the cultist's intentions when he designed them...>this troon did it accidentally>accidentally
>>153952912just don't spend all day on social media then?
I just realized that a lot of parents who know nothing about this show are gonna go to the theaters with their kids and watch one of the main characters troon out
>>153946601It's hard to tell because Deltarune isn't finished, but Deltarune has, like, six different shadowy masterminds all sitting in the background, all doing nothing.There's Gaster, Friend, Mike, Egg-Man, ERAM, and Roaring Knight. Arguably even Onion-san and that one library monster.I don't doubt that Toby is going to bring everything together in a satisfying way, because Undertale showed he is an exceptional story-teller, but no matter what he does, people are going to get mad because 'obscure plot detail #6' didn't end up going anywhere.
>>153954514Jax doesn't troon out. IRL Jax is "just" a zesty mailman.
>>153949597Now this is good bait
>>153954502What else is there to do? There are no new cartoons.
>>153954514The kids will have to fill them in on context on the ride home
>>153954664>trans people are not all bad dad, all of my boyfriends on discord are trans
>>153953337>Cooper GoodwinHe was groomed on DeviantArt.
>>153954727And now he seeks to convert others. Because it's a cult.
>>153949597Gravity Falls' problem was that it solved its main mystery, the writer of the journal, halfway through the story and then had to patchwork an ending, because Alex never actually thought of how the story ends.And even then, the ending they came up with wasn't terrible, it just...couldn't live up to the reveal of the show's main mystery.
Is the movie even worth watching if you only give a shit about Gangle, Caine, and Kinger?
>>153954748This is diabolical. I've been looking at his internet history and it's definitely some kind of MK-ULTRA viral thing. This shit was developed by intelligence agencies; it's not organic.
>>153952863>Why did [troon] hate [an actual woman most men would like] so much. Ragafans are probably the most sane. You tell me.
>>153954774If you care about anyone but Jax no.
>>153954536I wouldn't know exactly how to describe it, but I've always considered most of the mysterious threats of DR to be under one specific entity -- they're all puppets or aspects of what the true threat will be.Also I'm not sure how common of a thought this is, but I consider the Dark World to be entirely sentient, and that everything from Ralsei to the enemies to the land itself to be one-and-the-same too. The Dark World is just puppeteering us around, but I couldn't say how malicious it really is.Not really related to the thread, but I couldn't help myself but bring it up.
>>153954776>h-haha, you think the moon is real?Cute.
Why do autistic and troon creators love childish art? With that colorful and infantile aesthetic? Does it have something to do with lost childhood, trauma, abuse? Or is it something darker and reflects the groomer side of this group?
>>153954922A mix of arrested development and the fact that animation can be far more expressive than real life so there is no mistaking what a character is feeling.
>>153955013Plus archetypal color coded characters. Think of every highly autistic fanbase for the last 15 years and you’ll see the pattern.
>>153954235I believe you follow this guy regardless
>>153955091Why?
>>153944180Just like real life
>>153952748Funnily enough goose once liked one of Sepublic’s post a year prior. Sepublic praised TADC and called goose’s precious Jax a good representation of toxic positivity.Seeing a former megafan break the hivemind in real time and criticize the show must’ve sent poor goose’s brain into trannyjanny mode.
This is a really dumb question, but if all the old guard film critics (Pauline Kael, Siskel and Ebert, Vincent Canby) were around today, what would they have thought about the finale movie and show as a whole?
>>153955145Because you sound like a brown third worlder groyper
They would've sucked George Lucas's cock after seeing this trashfire of a show
>>153955339By basic writing conventions it is not a good show or ending. So they’d probably not like it.
>an entire subreddit was made to shit on the ending>it’s super active and full of former fans
>>153949186Another sign that this shit got some intense rewrites. I also remember the first few chapters had the non-Zooble characters very explicitly either enjoying the adventures or at the very least pretending to very convincingly. Like, Ragatha even tries to sell them to Pomni as a good thing that they all kind of enjoy.
>>153955414What’s it called?
>>153955421But anon. Jax wasn’t a tranny hiding in an egg, so it wasn’t good.
Is TADC worth a watch if I haven't watched it?
>>153955421But anon. That would mean Zooble was the problem instead of Caine.
>>153954264Undertale doesn't do that in the slightest, it sets up a fuckton of mysteries but all of them have pay off, some harder or more obscure to figure out than others but it's always there one way or another. It's clear it's not just random setups happening that then get forgotten.Deltarune we can only assume is the same since it's not finished. Toby has proven he can actually deliver on all the theorybaiting. Which of course doesn't account for players trying to find patterns that aren't really there, Toby shouldn't be held responsible if it turns out every Kris sprite being composed of exactly 42 pixels wasn't actually a sign of anything but just a character limitation or some shit like that.
>>153955482Only if you want to shitpost with us
>>153955482No
>>153955482I want to say no because the ending really makes the entire rest of the show retroactively worse.
>>153955494>It's clear it's not just random setups happeningEven Gaster and everything related to him?
>>153955430TADCEp9SpoilersTop post is an apt joke about Caine’s arc.
>>153955482
>>153955482Just watch Murder Drones at this point if you want an actual autistic kino story and not Tranny Venting: The Show
>>153955521Even Gaster has his (super obscure, probably the most obscure stuff in the entire game) explanations, that now seem to have led into Deltarune somehow. Toby has proven before that he can cook, so let's just let him cook. There's always time to make a hate subreddit later.
>>153955525Fucking lmao, that is the most succinct way to represent it.
>>153955586The “rules” post is also perfect.
>>153951548yes
>>153955543Don’t watch drones either. Just ignore glitch.
>>153954776Anything can show up "naturally" on the internet. $200 goes a long way in India. It would probably cost you like $100 to get front paged on reddit.
>>153947153Or working on un-abstracting the abstractedOr exploring the limits of the human (scanned) mindOr enjoying what is effectivly heavenAbsolutely nothing left
>>153955624Gonna need more than that to work off of
>>153955571>Even Gaster has his (super obscure, probably the most obscure stuff in the entire game) explanationsWhat are they? Who are these fuckers talking about Gaster? What does he add to the story or the world? What's Everyman?
>>153947192>Anything else is a "Why don't they fly the eagles to Mordor" tier questionThat's the highest plot hole teir there is.
>>153948133This
>>153947153>Oh no, I'm trapped in a virtual world which I have complete, god-like control over for my effectively infinite lifespan.>Whatever will I do?
>>153955756So it IS hazbin hotel
>>153955645NTA but nah, I liked murder drones
>>153955421That was coming across as cope.
>>153955645what's up with murder drones
>>153947192>JUST IGNORE ITNo
>>153955803Edgy poorly written garbage for teens.
>>153955803It's fine, if short and fast paced as fuckThat anon probably just hates Glitch
>>153955803Too much kino for some faggots to handle.
>>153955677>What does he add to the story or the world?It does explain a bunch of shit of how the monsters figured out the mechanics of the barrier or how Alphys started to fuck up with the whatchamacallits she hides in the basement. A mystery doesn't always need to be solved for it to fit into the world and can conclude with the implication of what effect it had on the actual plot. The point is that Gaster is not just some dude that gets mentioned or appears to go "Ohhhh I'm so myterious~ and I'm going to tell you hints~" and then never appears again, Gaster is what you find if you start digging into the background as a way to gap a bridge between events.
>>153955624What the fuck? The Minor has self-control and maturity?
>>153944180Had anyone paid any attention at all to Goose's previous work, they would have known that the story was never going to have any sort of depth to it. Goose got into digital art at exactly the right time when you could pirate illustrator, flash, and fruity loops extremely easily, but youtube videos that spoon fed you "how to" tutorials wasn't really a thing yet. People who actually bothered to read manuals and learn through experimentation were able to create extremely (for the time) impressive work. Goose made some okay looking stuff and made connections through that. However, she never really had a particularly honed visual artistic style. The aesthetic is very much "emo kid draws wacky stuff using basic shapes because they can't really draw, but the eyes look psycho". Any of the animation or games or music or whatever were impressive for the time, but people just starting out now could run circles around the stuff that she makes/made on her own. As such, without a strong writing partner, it should have been expected that TADC wasn't going to be some sort of masterful story. Goose embodies the "jack of all trades, master of none" adage. The people who are the most butthurt over how the series ended were the same people propping it up as the most mind blowing work of art of all time and had until very recently hailing Goose as a genius. TADC is fine if you just take it for what it is - a fun colorful ripoff of some disturbing media that was popular for y2k kiddies.
>>153955803Unironically follows the "Some of the most important details for understanding the narrative are hidden away in the corner of the screen for 8 frames during a intense action scene" style of storytelling and even then, it ends with a dozen unanswered questions and a whole other season's worth of protentional plot to cover.
>>153950920It already happened https://youtube.com/watch?v=nacLE_wibYw
>Why was Caine Truman?>Uhhhhh...
>>153945117This. "Lore" is the detail in Watchmen that everybody drives electric cars, because Dr. Manhattan created enough lithium for all of the batteries. It has nothing to do with the main plot, but it's a cool detail.
>>153956106TADC is a memetic stew of things Goose likes with no real rhyme or reason.
>>153956106It's called postmodernism. Audiences love postmodernism.
How people call circus “compelling psychological horror” is beyond me.
>>153951833this was incredible and it sums up the entire plot perfectlyI really hope kids will grow up and get rid of their rose tinted glasses and realize that the ending was so flawed and goose is a hack
>>153955756>effectively infiniteIf you get internet access, yeah. Otherwise you have until the server shits itself.
>>153955850>It does explain a bunch of shit of how the monsters figured out the mechanics of the barrier or how Alphys started to fuck up with the whatchamacallits she hides in the basementHow does he explain it?
>>153956161Because it turns out the main threat in the circus was trooning out all along. Before Jax, the abstracted made the transitions off screen to be abominations. Scratch was the first because he told Caine to turn him into a girl
>>153955482no
Remember like a month ago when they put out a fake leak that made it sound like Jax was going to try to kill everyone to "save" them (ala Ted from IHNM)? Wouldn't that have been an exciting finale? Maybe Bubble could have tricked Jax into think he could have taken over the system and shut it down, only for the others to have to stop him? Imagine all the exciting sequences you could do, all the character stuff that could come from Jax trying to make specific death traps for each circus resident, only for it all to backfire around on him? Like maybe Pomni would be able to talk him down, and maybe he could've had a hot mic moment where he spills his guts out and everyone learns how miserable? Maybe have him realize all too late that his crazy plan to kill everyone is just another instance of him sabotaging himself because he's pathologically terrified of hurting everyone he cares about? Maybe everyone realizes Jax, for all his faults, genuinely loved all of them and was trying to help, but was ultimately sabotaged and destroyed by his own backwards thinking?Boy, that would have been nice...
>>153956061>it ends with a dozen unanswered questions and a whole other season's worth of protentional plot to cover.Honestly, this just isn't true and I feel like a bunch of people overexaggerate this point in regards to Murder Drones. MD ends with pretty much most things answered. If not directly shown, then like you said there's a lot of details that are more hidden that you have to spot - but that's just the kind of autism MD is built around in the first place. Anything else is pretty obviously purposefully left open for your interpretation and aren't actually plot beats that are "dropped" or "plot holes" like some people say. Stuff like the ultimate fate of humanity and whether there's any humans left on any potential exoplanets - the show implies that the Absolute Solver spent all this time before coming back to Copper 9 eating the other exoplanets and Humanity is more likely than not extinct or almost extinct.Or things like you bringing up a "whole season of potential plot". Like what? Uzi's life after becoming the main host and the Solver harrassing her through her tail? Yeah you could potentially come up with any number of potential stories from the end of the series, because it's left open ended. That's not automatically a bad thing. I'm not sure why people like you say this.
>>153956242How did a human became a drone?
>>153956242>>153956061Sounds like a pretty open ending that resolves the core stuff while still leaving things open for the future.Which is the exact opposite of what the TADC finale does. It resolves almost nothing but also seems to completely cuts off any potential for a continuation.
>>153956250A human didn't. A vore demon started wearing a human skinsuit over the drone skinsuit it was already wearing, adding the souls of both people it made its skinsuits from to its collection.
>>153944180The show ended and we never got to see an abstraction happening without cuts or offscreen bullshit is such a shame
>>153950871>But really it's meant to be vague enough to project general sexual neurosis onto.Why make it vague though? TADC is an adult show so they're not bound by censorship.
>>153956328>TADC>adult
>>153956250They didn't. You're just retarded.The Solver took Cyn, its vessel, and then assimilated Tessa and combined them into one. Cyn is using Tessa's flesh, Tessa did not turn into a drone.
>>153956240Subverting Ted by going>What if death didn't need to be the end? What if there was a better alternative?would have certainly been better than subverting Ted by going>What if Ted just... dropped dead and everyone spent 30 minutes crying about it before continuing the journey and then finding out AM has changed opinion and now loves them?
>>153952863>Ragafans are probably the most sane.Didn't they go apeshit when Goose said Ragatha would only fuck their online friend?
>>153944180>What’s this storytelling method called?Throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks-ism
>>153956343I wouldn't call the constant talk about suicide and Zooble fucking Gangle kid friendly.
>>153944262Just watch a 1 hour lore video recap of the entire series with an A.I text to speech bot reading a script
>>153956437...and then reaching the final episode completely misunderstanding what stuck.
>>153956375I’m not talking about Tessa. I’m talking about Doll’s robo-smashing former-human dad.
>>153956282>Sounds like a pretty open ending that resolves the core stuff while still leaving things open for the future.Yeah. That's pretty much the MD endkng. The majority of the initial.complaining about MD's ending was people being frustrated that they weren't getting more and the open ending leaves potential for the future of the series. The actual events of the core show itself are pretty much all wrapped up. Like what's been said, the major plot points are concluded. The origins of the murder drones, what happened to the Humans, what Cyn / The Solver wants, the Cabin Fever project the Humans on Copper 9 were working on, the events that caused the Core Collapse that wiped out all Humans on Copper 9, the Crucifix Patch, etc. Some people just don't know what "plot hole" means and think an open ended ending means unanswered questions, when MD gives you loads of implications about things not directly addressed by the plot. Such as, again, the ultimate fate of Humanity (which isn't directly important for the actual events of the show, humans are pretty much entirely kept in the backstory) which you can k fer using information such as the computer displays in Episode 6 showing the Absolute Solver consuming the human Exoplanets like the Proxima system and Plat-Binary system after Earth fell.
>>153956250>>153956465If this is some inside joke I don't know what you're talking about. This isn't a part of the show.
>>153956513He’s the guy that held the hand of Doll’s mother in episode 7’s flashback. How did you forget about him?
>If you hate Jax, you're forced to sit through his bullshit sob story and watch as he and Pomni cry together in a scene that is 100% serious and trying to pull on your heartstrings, and the whole time you just plain don't give a shit>If you like Jax, you're forced to watch him die, be humiliated, and have his corpse shoved into a tank like a bloated fishWho is the final even for?
>>153956547The finale is for those cucked from having the super epic Caine-related adventure they expected to receive after episode 8.
>>153956547I can't believe someone else said it before me, but I'm glad they did. Jax's fate is deeply unsatisfying for anyone except people who both:1) Hate Jaxand2) didn't bother watching it
>>153956547In my case>If you were expecting that there was a point to Jax being an asshole and occupying so much of the show and just wanted to let Goose cook and deliver a conclusion that justified it and let you realize why Jax became the main character, you're forced to watch him abstract within minutes of the movie starting and realize there's no pay off
>>153948098The baseball episode could've been a loreshit episode instead desu. It's completely unnecessary to watch.
Haven't you haters gotten it out of their system yet? This shit is going to make piles of cash, your seething is impotent.
>>153956576The people that hate Jax wanted him to bend down to Pomni and Ragatha to stop being a bitch for once.
>>153956250>>153956465>>153956537this anon is either making a joke about Mitchell the intern holding Yeva (Doll's mother)'s hand in Ep 7 or actually schizophrenically believes that Mitchell somehow transferred himself into a drone body to survive the core collapse (which happens literally a minute after he runs out of the cathedral) and then hooked up with Yeva to make Doll even though this literally never happened. Human-on-drone romance cope is supee strong it seems.
My favorite part of the ending was when Pomni found Jax half-abstracted and covered in his own piss, so she cheered him up by joking around about it before cleaning him off, dressing him in nice clothes and bringing him on a bus ride to Florida, but Jax died in his seat while she held him and sobbed, and gently closed his eyes, promising they'd be in Tampa soon.
>>153956614> actually schizophrenically believes that Mitchell somehow transferred himself into a drone body to survive the core collapse Judging by how tramatized he looks like after getting Drone’d, yes. Vampire drones are bio-mechanical and Doll is one really fucked up abomination. Wouldn’t be surprised if the human stuff from Mitchell’s bio-heart thing applied to her and it somehow made her even more fucked up and paranormal to surpass death.
>>153956631I liked the subplot where Jax finally learned to embrace his desire to crossdress by creating a fake female persona named "Tootsie" and landing a role on a trashy hospital soap opera.
I think TADC/Glitch's strongsuit is having le whacky reddit humor in their cartoons/slapstick. These guys need to stop adding lore shit to their cartoons.
>>153956547>Who is the final even for?who else?
>>153955345I'm sure you do...>>153956106The castration cultist loves adapting what is recognizable without a single consideration for what it means, for all meaning must revolve around the cult.
>>153956684please take your meds sir, this never happened.
>>153956080Wow...Fuck you Gooseworx.
>>153956690I could have done without the scene where Pomni walks into Jax's fantasy of marrying her only to see it ends in a bitter divorce and Jax struggling to settle into life as a single father, only for him and Pomni to get into a bitter custody battle.
>>153956747Yes it did. And it’s makes Mitchell even more unlucky. Would not be surprised if he’s some creepy ghost thing now like his daughter.
>>153950265I haven't watched the MD finale since it came but with all the manic lovecraftian bullshit in the show it did feel kind of weird to still end with the hero and villain punching each other in the dick
>>153956761The scene right before where he interrupts her wedding with Gummigoo and they run away on a bus together was sweet, though.
>>153956768You're talking to autismos. They don't "get" jokes.>>153956784>the finale just amounted to two autists fighting over N's dick
>>153956812It’s not a joke. And I never once wanted to sex a robot.
>>153956803Was that before or after he brought Kinger to count cards in Caine's Casino, only for Kinger to freak out because he was missing Judge Wapner?
>>153956547https://youtu.be/F9CGFhmdmkA?si=bEhBZN74NMiWX3XS
>>153951621>All the characters are just self-inserts of Goose, each a small core of her personality.there is literally nothing wrong with this and lots of writers do it all the time.
>>153944180Themes and such
>>153956731This sounds like something AM would say, they didn't even need an animation to mimick IHNM
>>153956867AM is full of hate. Not horniness!...least, I hope not...
>>153956733>I'm sure you do...See? You don't even know how to properly use English, you domesticated ape.
>>153956631>>153956690>>153956761>>153956768>>153956812ALRIGHT! I GET IT! THE JOKE IS JAX IS LIKE GENE HACKMAN!
>>153956547You watched this shit from the pilot, you deserve shit for a finale.
>>153956417like 2 or 3 of them did
Damn, you guys are desperate to make Goose a lolcow huh?
>>153956905You're the one who said I "sound" like something when all you have is text.
>>153956080I feel bad for Caine.
>>153956921The only reason he's not is by virtue of being reclusive.
>>153956908>Gene HackmanYou are weirdly wrong but not enough for me to bother correcting you.
>>153956921That's what happens to all indie showrunners. You think you'll make a fun world and tell a story and 90% of the audience is more interested in deconstructing it and the drama surrounding it. People just don't like cartoons.
>>153956784>all the manic lovecraftian bullshit in the show it did feel kind of weird to still end with the hero and villain punching each other in the dickEven considering all the lovecraftian bullshit, only The Absolute Solver's main vessel is destroyed. Yes technically it's the hero and the villain punching eachother in the dick by the ending but in reality the protagonists can't actually get rid of or even directly harm the Absolute Solver entity. It's just being temporarily contained inside Uzi by the very end of the show. Which, when you think about it makes the ending very bittersweet and is fitting with all the lovecraftian bullshit. They've only managed to get a temporary reprieve, the Solver is still hanging around and even messing with them. It's fully capable of potentially finding a way to continue trying to eat the universe in the future. The show doesn't just end with Uzi punching Cyn and "that's it". People making that out to be the case just come across as hugely dishonest to me. >>153956812>the finale just amounted to two autists fighting over N's dickkekThis is pretty much the case if you consider the prominent rape-hardon Cyn / The Solver has for N.
>>153956877he's horny for hate and so is a self mutilator
In the light of all things I've learned that if the author claims a side character to be their self insert, that "side" character will actually sideline the rest of the cast to be the only one under the limelight in the end.What a rotten way for this show to end.
>>153956967Also making that character troon out and kill him off
>>153956812>>the finale just amounted to two autists fighting over N's dicknow that's how you end a show. takes notes, goose.
>>153944180The Trooner Diaries
Jax turns into Boxman and no longer troons but makes shows for the abstracted.
>>153956958cyn is so sexy
>>153944180>create what is clearly a character‑focused show featuring an ensemble cast>therefore it should take its time to develop each of the main characters in depth, along with the relationship dynamics that tie them together, even if it doesn’t necessarily advance the plot (20 or more episodes ideally)>instead, shove everything into 8 episodes with a neck‑breaking pace>only focus on 3 main characters at most and bloat the story with unnecessary lore and superfluous side characters>fuck filler that could actually help build characters and team dynamics btwWhat’s this storytelling method called?>>153956020Popee would have saved the show
>>153944180never trust a nigga selling a mystery box
>>153957010>kill him offGoose has a humiliation fetish, so he didn't kill off his self-insert. He did something far crueler.
>>153956080>The Butterflies at the endAbsolute cinema.
>>153957010jax is goose's self insert, correct
>tfw this had a worse ending than Adventure Time and Steven Universe
>>153957130> What’s this storytelling method called?Fuck making episodes 1-7 cool, and let’s shove in the relevant plot line to half or quarter an episode in one of those 1-7 episodes. Notice how Gameoverse establishes the main characters, Flappers and Snappers, syntax, Malice and Mayhem, the causes of farcade and syntax and their leaders in a single episode. Hazbin hotel wasted two episodes in season 1 to introduce Vox and Adam separately when they could’ve been in the same episode.
>>153957207>a ghoul is worse than its capitulatorsYes.
>>153956080>>153957157KINOOOOOOwe were fucking robbedfuck you goose I hope you jump off that bridge like the rest of your kind
>>153957207>Adventure TimeEnding wasn't "too" bad bu it outstayed its welcome.>Steven UniverseHad a perfect ending with the movie, but kept going.
Truly, it was an amazing digital circus.
>>153952912No. I'm not a troon who cries over basic criticism
>>153954098Of course it's a shartynigger.
>Pictured: Goose meeting with fans shortly after a test screening of the film.
>>153957351>Wait wait wait! Jax *Abstracts*?>...FUCK man, WHAT? HOW DO YOU NOT GET THAT?>It wasn't clear.
>>153944180Its ok sir. You can call xem a lolcow, theres already a thread on the ‘wi, thus they are ‘cow.
>>153946453Although I recognize it was discarded, I'm disappointed it's not a Matrix situation and Is a soma situation. It's been like 2 episodes since then do I got over it, but it took some wind out of the sails.
>>153944180Found some shit on reddit saying that the Circus guys are actually brain scans of their human selves can someone confirm on that
>>153957437bro the finale leaked almost 2 weeks ago
>>153957437It's true. Near the end of the finale everyone sees how the people they're AI homunculus clones of are doing.
>>153956547Goose and Goose alone.
>>153957444yeah but available postings are probably deleted already
>>153957254
>>153951478the worst writting ever.
>>153957130popee was clearly a huge influence. I'd pointed this out in several threads, but anons always wanted to dog pile on me and proclaim that TADC was SOOOOO much deeper. kek.Goose doesn't have a history of D E E P E S T L O R EAnyone who knew their previous releases could have known what to expect. Here's Goose's youtube channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@Gooseworx/videosWatch this shit and tell me that this person is going to write a super deep show that will heavily explore the psyche of each and every character. Goose's shtick has always been "cutesy character in cutesy world endures horrible shit and then they die because that's unexpected and funny, but doesn't it make you think?". You can do mental backflips to make that as deep as you want, but that's the extent of it. Goose doesn't have a history of developing characters or creating backstories or finding poetic ways to bring narratives around. In fact, TADC exemplifies a pretty big leap forward in narrative abilities. Anybody expecting TADC to be more than it was wasn't paying attention. I agree that if this was someone who was a seasoned writer, we could have expected more from what was set up, but if we actually look at Goose's previous work, it becomes pretty obvious that this was always going to be a y2k "and then they died, but it's thought provoking" wrap up.
>>153952391C I N E M A
>>153952391the irony
reminder that the voice of zooble used to date the voice of jax. They were in an open relationship so the voice of Zooble sucked and fucked a buffet of dicks while the voice of jax had to be okay with it and respect her sexual freedom. But then the voice of jax texted a girl once and didn't tell the voice of Zooble, so she had to take a break from sucking and fucking multiple penises to melt down about how the voice of jax had totally betrayed her trust. She will be releasing her indie pilot for Far Fetched later this year.
>>153956547For people who won’t watch it but love seeing annoying fanbases get their just desserts. So me.
>>153956547>>If you like Jax, you're forced to watch him die, be humiliated, and have his corpse shoved into a tank like a bloated fishYurifags love that
>>153957648>In fact, TADC exemplifies a pretty big leap forward in narrative abilities. Nah. Backwards. Even the TV show host in the short at least has an inspiration behind his career, Boxman, he keeps as a secret. Elaine ends with her seeing a world impacted by her accidentally hooking up to the amalgamation thing. Boxman is implied to be trapped in the show he is hosting for to be a purposeful mystery linked to the amalgamation people. None of them had random therapy talks, LGBT faggotry to piss on the world building and characters with fetishes, and the characters act a lot more naturally to their experiences and didn’t die to some bad writing mechanic (abstraction). Most importantly, they did feel like engaging adventures. Which a single fucking episode of the digital circus refuses to fully commit to even after episode 7 and 8. 9 is the same old bullshit as episodes 1-6, a complete regression.People expected bubble, the truth of the circus, and Caine’s restoration to be the final adventure of the series. Nope, fucking Jax trooning was it.
>>153957970Yurifags go to hell in real life.
AMIGOS....
>>153958047But none of them also needed to be stretched to a 9 episode arc. I said it earlier in this thread, but I think Goose's major failing is that they had like 3 big ideas for TADC which could have been addressed in a single film, but the deal they struck was for 9 episodes. As such, we get some interesting glimmers of L O R E and a lot of filler. When the series wraps up, it feels disappointing because you think that after all this time there should be more, but really, had all the major ideas behind TADC been encompassed in like 60-90 minutes, it would have been fine.
>>153958116No. Goose’s major failing is being a deranged fuck ass pervert obsessed more with his fetishes than with the stories or adventures. All goose had to do was make at least six adventures before 789 and make compelling NPCs in them (evil Jax, gummy goo, the manor characters) and he can’t even fucking do that because “muh trooning and yuri”. Gangle’s episode makes sense as the shake up from the norms.
>>153958189>and make compelling NPCs in thembut again, this has never been Goose's modus operandi. Compelling character work is not something you can find in any of their previous work. It's just surface level "emo kid who learned adobe creative suite" shit.
So does everyone hate Gooseworx now?
>>153957648>and then they diedbut nobody died No one dies in TADC
>>153958388>now
I think what really bothers me is goose pretending jax was the deuteragonist all along, at most he was an impending threat for half of the show
>>153944180>answer none of the mysteries>fans are pissed because you didn't answer anything>answer all of the mysteries>fans are pissed because you didn't leave any room for their headcanon>answer some of the mysteries and leave others open ended>fans are pissed because you didn't answer everythingthere's just no pleasing some people
So are you guys gonna rope after this still makes bank anyway or what? You do realize that no matter how much you bitch this shit is not going to fail right?
>>153958535I am genuinely curious to see how much this makes because every million Glitch can nab will very likely extend their lifespan significantly.
>>153958535>something something making money off merch is the devil something something
>>153958526I legit still don't know what "loose ends" people are whining about It was a satisfying conclusion to me
>>153958423thank you for your pedantic distinction. Where would I be without you
>>153958557Capitalism is a slippery slope. One day you're selling plastic figurines and next thing you know you're crushing the gentle laborer with an iron fist
>>153958582People can keep coming into the circus the same way Pomni did. That was not addressed.Caine's motives or involvement in "Scratch, the first abstraction" were not addressed.The issue of the guests being AIs that are, in principle, able to be saved, loaded, and copied just like video game characters was never addressed. Why not just have a backup copy of each guest ready to go in case they abstract?There's no in-universe definitive answer as to whether abstraction is irreversible or not. There is not even a comparison between new abstractions and decades-old abstractions.Caine completely forgot about making adventures, and his desire to learn more about the macroverse, even before he divorced the blue AI. He's more than 20 years old. Can a single serving of attempted murder change his personality so drastically, or was there more to the computer tampering than what Kinger said?
>>153957648Disappointment!
>>153958873>Why not just have a backup copy of each guest ready to go in case they abstract?That would just be a clone.
>>153959151they're already clones in a way, but I guess a clone of a clone would be less than ideal for caine
>>153959161And for everyone else, including the clone of a clone.
>>153958603no really. Nobody dies. Jax is working for the postal service. Alive and well, just like the rest of the main cast.Within the Circus context they're all AI like Caine technically. The characters are like ... Toy Story characters essentially. It's weird to get too upset about Buzz or Woody getting broken since they're functionally immortal otherwise. They don't have a relatable human life cycle/experience.
>>153958873>People can keep coming into the circus the same way Pomni did. That was not addressed.Why do you think this is a loose end? Did you want the cast to have to find a way to disable the headset?>Caine's motives or involvement in "Scratch, the first abstraction" were not addressed.I thought this line was just telling how Caine learned the hard way not to edit the mind files. Nothing more to it than that.>The issue of the guests being AIs that are, in principle, able to be saved, loaded, and copied just like video game characters was never addressed. Why not just have a backup copy of each guest ready to go in case they abstract?See above.>There's no in-universe definitive answer as to whether abstraction is irreversible or not. There is not even a comparison between new abstractions and decades-old abstractions.Its pretty clearly irreversible. Ragatha has 1 line postulating the contrary which is chalked up to fake Ragatha optimism. >Caine completely forgot about making adventures, and his desire to learn more about the macroverse, even before he divorced the blue AI. He's more than 20 years old. Can a single serving of attempted murder change his personality so drastically, or was there more to the computer tampering than what Kinger said?Even during Caines power trip, his ultimate goal was still subservient. You could tell post-torture scene when he's crashing out that he's really just at his wits end and not doing so out of pure malice. (hence why it lasts for less than a minute)
Remember when people overanalyzed the console from episode 8 and it ended up being a complete nothingburger?>I must hand it to you Grant, your mind was always resourceful>DELETE THIS MOTHERFUCKER>the A/B/C backups
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>>153959516Yeah, what was up with that?
>>153946567The ending felt very anime. Is Goose a weeb?
>>153959558Nothing. Nothing was up with that.
>>153956570>The finale is for those cucked from having the super epic Caine-related adventure they expected to receive after episode 8.I just wanted to go to Shrimp TownIs that too much to ask?
>>153959390>subservientNah
