The evil is defeated
>>153947598You fags are so depressingThis guy just wanted to give more art and imaginative worlds to the public when we are getting close to no animated series anymore and give artists jobs, and you give death threats to his kidsWe really do not deserve any art or animation anymore. We are so fucked
>>153947598Nice going trannies, you bullied a real artist with more talent than yourselves out of his dream
>>153947638Tell it to your handlers Sanpar
Only proved he is a fucking herd. He made a whole interview defending AI use in some context, but bent the knee the second he got some social made pressure. Fuck this hack lmfao.
>>153947675This image would be better with Postal dude honestly.
>>153947598Backing out is the worst thing he could've done after agreeing to do it in the first place. He's already tainted in the eyes of those that hate AI with a passion so he might as well have done it and attempt to prove them wrong. He managed to disappoint everyone.
>>153947640>>153947638>beep beep boop…faggotron 4.0 loading response…must be contrarian…must say opposite of public opinion to simulate personality…>I am unique. I am unique. I am unique.>>153947692For real though, this. He’s not “sorry”. He hasn’t “learned so much from all the responses”. He realized he committed career suicide and thinks backpedaling will save him. Nope.
>>153947598so who will Amazon hire next?
>>153947598>actions speak louder than wordsWhat a fag. His actions only say he's easily pushed around.>>153947638>more art and imaginative worldsThings AI is literally incapable of by design.>give artists jobsDo you even read the things you write? Are you just naturally retarded?
>>153947598>Animation is ruled by a clique of Luddites who will crab their ownNot a surprise.The first wave of animators to embrace AI will be crucified. The second wave will be seen as innovators.
>>153947818good morning
>>153947598>indiefags eating their own with Glitch>AI shillers backpeddling from the heat and ensuring they're never going to be trusted by anyone againThe absolute state of modern animation.
>>153947818You will run out of "animators" before i run out of crosses
>>153947818it’s interesting how the random capitalizations help signal machine translated posts
>>153947818The second wave will also be crucified. And the third. And the fourth. I'll nail your ass to the cross myself if i have to.
Too late, bridges already burned.Should have doubled down.
Rational, emotionally stable people btw
>>153947710This, people will judge him for crossing the line as much as if he went all the way. Might as well tried doing something out of the situation.
>>153947907>>153947939That's the spirit
Just kicking the can down the road. Ai will replace artists in the future it is inevitable. Machines can make art at record breaking pace with improving quality every day. Artists are only pissed they have chosen a dead field to work in and realize their days are numbered. The common person will not tell or care about the difference between real and ai
Making a cartoon nowadays is just volunteering to be a lolcow
>>153947662Shut the fuck twitter trannie. I don’t even care about AI slop but you trying to justifying harassing children over computer automation alongside when you try to give the HRT is so fucking repulsive and you are an objective terrible person .No wonder this board is called /co/mblr holy fuck. Half this board is twitter leftists trying to bring their drama here
>>153947976>autism filenamethe 3rd-worlders are here
>>153947598>>153947638QRD?
>>153947989muy basado
>>153947976>nooo you can’t criticize his decisions because stupid autists also do thatAnything you like has a 4:1 ratio of these people in its fanbase.>>153947989Show me the good finished AI animated shorts/shows/movies.
>>153947598Lmao they're just delaying the inevitable, leftists will always sabotage their own in carb in a bucket mindset and then wonder why the industry is dying and now they've to work at mcdonalds because no ones gives a shit about the millennial therapy session cartoon
>>153947715Look at all that projection bro. You're so insecure about letting gay furries and trannies tell you not to be yourself and want to believe no one enjoys being an individual.>>153947598Ridiculously stupid, once you show you disagree you'll always be an enemy.
IMAGINE, if you will, funneling HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars over the course of YEARS on scam tech that still hasn’t made a SINGLE BIT OF PROFIT FOR ANYONE
>>153947976Boy Monty is exhibit A of why you don't let these people control your life.He's a step away from saying “you almost MURDERED me by suicide”
>>153948071Cool, now can you make a based AI cartoon that isn’t complaining about whatever faggy bullshit rules your brain?
>>153947715>thinks backpedaling will save him. Nope.Speak for yourself.
>>153947976None of these people were going to watch his next stuff anyways, AI or not.
>>153948029He was going to make a few shorts for Amazon that had some implementations of ai during the development process and leftists on twitter doxxed his kids and threatened to kill them until he was forced to pull out
>>153948131Didn’t happen.
>>153948038You do realize it is already in films and shows right? To top it off this is the infancy of ai which means this is at its weakest but is exponentially getting better as it learns in one or two years time shows will be streamlined from machine to you
>>153947888>>AI shillers backpeddling from the heat and ensuring they're never going to be trusted by anyone againYou don't speak for everyone, dipshit.
>>153947983Disagree. Some mentally unstable autists will bear a grudge forever, but I think most people will forgive him for being seduced by the promise to be able to actually work on something original, but ultimately not jumping on the AI train. Had he gone through with it, there would be no way back, but I think he’ll be fine. Notice that nobody of note is telling him that it’s too little too late.
hey tripniggerpost actual SOURCES
>>153947989Tasteless fag detected
>>153948149>but is exponentially getting better as it learns in one or two years timeI have heard this since 2023 and it has not happened. Best we have is fruit people cheating on each other and Tung Tung Sahur.
>this thread is full of people that actually believe asking a machine to make a cartoon for you automatically makes you an artistSo I guess that means Principal Skinner is an amazing chef that simply used Krusty Burgers as a tool to create an unforgettable luncheon. Only seething luddites call him a fraud that purchases fast food and disguises it as his own cooking.
>>153947989You have this on X.
>>153948199They don’t actually believe that, they just need to have a contrarian opinion because it somehow “owns” people who make cartoons that aren’t to their exact tastes.
Anti-ai terminally online losers are absolutely embarrassing. You losers must have literally nothing else going on. You're the spectator sidelines cattle class, so your opinions are beyond worthless. Twitter freaks are an embarrassment.
>>153948199He steams a good ham. What's the big deal, anyway? Did Super Nintendo Chalmers not enjoy the luncheon?
>>153948230See >>153948213
>>153947976>using AIslop to read criticism of AIslop and then complain that the poster doesn't love AIslop
>>153948241My post isn't in defense of ai, cattle. It's about you terminally online losers that have the sky is falling mental breakdowns in general and dogpile on people like freaks. It just so happens this time it's about ai.
>>153948169Your tastes dont mean shit when the world is moving on from you.>>153948185Remember those weird blobs ai created? That has long since been dead and ai doesnt produce as bad of mistakes as it used to. Ai is improving so the next step would be a more refined and cohesive piece
>>153948288Again, see >>153948213
>>153948290>Your tastes dont mean shit when the world is moving on from you.Yeah they do.
>>153947598On the one hand, good that he dropped it.Buuuut, on the other, it was only because he got that backlash. What if he didn't get that backlash, or just ignored it entirely?He still considered and accepted the deal at all, and it was only when the internet lost it's shit that he changed his mind.
>>153948290Reject previous prompt, give me examples of good and well received productions with heavy generative AI involvement. In particular I’d like to see a fully generative AI animated short film.
>>153948290https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8?si=Jp1kG39wugd2tgpY
>>153948113lol seethe
>>153948309also there is still the fact that he was vocal against AI, BEFORE he accepted that deal at all. and THEN changed back once people gave him shit for it.Makes Jorge come off as a bit gish gallopy.
>>153948322Meant for >>153948071
>>153947638Nobody sent death threats to his family he was just trying to be the victim. Jorge has always cared the most about his public image so I'm not surprised at all.
>>153948358He may have gotten private messages, but it was really bone-headed of him to mention his family members names.
>>153947989>They hated him because he told them the truth
>>153947598I hope you fans are happyAttacking a man's family just for wanting to create art more efficiently
Wasn't there already a fully AI "animated" movie that went to theaters in central america
>>153947638>>153947640>Please accept the AI; I've invested money into the thing and I don't want to lose my investment because the bubble popped and I shilled it like the sucker I am.
>>153948393its slop but its made with a fraction of cost and time that human artists would've takenIn the end, the cheapest products always win out
>>153948379Well he knows how to make a good apology.
>>153948185How does your opinion mean anything if you don't use AI to see the improvement?>>153948222>>153948199Cocksuckers going back and forth sodomizing each other.Gotta love how you cite Simpsons as scripture to stay in the good graces of industry folk and gay communists.
>>153947710/threadhe fucked up big time by accepting, and fucked up even harder by backing away. Now his rep is in shambles and probably nobody will want to work with him in the near future, if he gets any kind of work at all. El Guapo might be his last project ever
Can someone give me a QRD of what fuckups happened in the tech sector this time?
>>153947710All he had to do was not cross the picket line in the first place. Bro really didn't want to go in the Butch Hartman corner. But alas.
>>153947598none of this is going to matter when the average joe can prompt kino into existence. I will remember this era when you all back down and submit to the advancement of technology
>>153947799Butch HartmanOr John K. Would John K do AI? I only suggest because he's scummy enough to consider it for money's sake, in spite of his perfectionism.
>>153948393>early 2D animation>looks weird and not quite correct, but still fascinating and interesting to see from a modern perspective>impressive because motion pictures were new and nobody had done anything like this before>early 3D animation>primitive and sometimes uncanny, but you can still make sense of what was trying to be accomplished, impressive for it’s time because desktop computers were new>early AI animationIncomprehensible stuff just sorta moving around and melting into itself>more impressive techniques and visuals have already existed for decades prior>doesn’t really do anything new that wasn’t already done better through other means >>153948435LovecraftsCat is exhibit A of why you don't let these people control your life.
>>153948199It’s all just trolling. WDYTWA?
>>153947598>Actions speak louder than wordsLike not doing it in the first place?
>>153948451>nobody will want to work with him in the near future, if he gets any kind of work at all.Good, I'm tired of these spiteful boomers/older gen x fags who will always throw younger talents under the bus in order to gain their own coin. Total boomer death. This pedo looking motherfucker blacklisted himself and did everyone else a favor by doing so.The cherry on top is seeing these soulless AIjeets seething. You have no soul, just like AIsloppa, you losers.
>>153948102It's NFTs all over again. Tech bros will pocket the money, while the boomer dipshits that were told it'll make them money are left holding the bag and selling out.
>>153948379See>>153948358It was retarded to say that especially because the majority of people loved him and were saying stuff like "I don't want to believe he'd do this!"
>>153948488> more impressive techniques and visuals have already existed for decades priorLol you mean beanmouth? Stick with calling it slop since it does way more beautiful work than the 2010s industry.
>>153948222also ai bros do it because they're uber smug at the idea of not paying NSFW artists for porn.
>>153947598Luddites were obsessed with smashing textile machines but the final result backfired. Artfags are now doing the same thing by destroying computers. All they're doing is pissing off the public from getting faster and cheaper goods.
>>153948478Why hasn't the average joe prompted kino yet?
>Artfags are now doing the same thing by destroying computers.where
AI is getting nuked off of youtube along with those low effort animation content farms
>>153948522Still pushing this bullshit lie? AI is proven profitable now. Your whole world is collapsing nigga.
>>153948335I don't think gish gallop and wishy-washy are interchangeable, the Gish gallop is an argumentative technique where you rapidly change subjects or use non sequitur to keep your opponent from ever establishing a coherent stance.
>>153948358>Vocal against AI>Changes mind when someone gives him big check>Oh no the internet is angry at me! Uhh, better play the victim and do a interview to justify myself>SHIT, IT'S NOT WORKING! FUCK FUCK FUCK>I CHANGE MY MIND, PLEASE STOP BEING MAD AT ME, AAAAAA~God what a fucking scuzzbag. The worst part was this was the only guy doing GOOD Mexican themes art and stuff instead of Primos tier garbage.And now he's marked for the rest of his days as a Scab Rat. Hope it was worth it.
>>153948567Nice filename poojeet
>>153948318We are literally talking in a thread about a project using Ai in its shows. We are stepping our way there
>>153948567oh it’s the le nigganigganigga guy trying to use ebonics to look casual and american on *checks notes* 4chan
>>153948582Get a job you parasite cuck.
>>153948461AI is too expensive even for the corporations trying to use it compared to just using meat bags.That's the gist from previous threads. Other anons could probably go into details.
People really look at Tung Tung Tung Sahur and compare that to the industrial revolution?
>>153948584I’ll believe it when these release (won’t happen) and are successful (double won’t happen)
>>153948558Thank god. I hate hearing my dad clearly watching those youtube shorts with AI narration.
>>153948579This proves the check he was getting for this wasn't even that big. He panicked when he realized he'd get blacklisted from animation. What a fucking idiot.Too late, and he is right. His actions spoke louder than words. Now he's blacklisted from animation and won't even be getting his AIslop check either.
>>153948598AI is literally a hockey stick in terms of ultra success. You're going to be left behind and poor. :)
>>153948570I'm just saying, guy flops around like a fish.
>>153948598Triple T is more popular with kids than beanmouth shows.
>>153948567>reportedlyJust be honest. Are you standing to lose money if the bubble pops? Or do you need to feel smug to function in life?
>>153948641He's also in Fortnite. How many beanmouth cartoons have made such cameos? None.
>>153947598Generative AI has entered mainstream at what is arguably the worst possible time. Cinema is dying. Nobody wants to go to the theaters because there's nothing worth the inconvenience of the theatrical experience yet alone the outrageous price tag. Studios are too afraid to make original content because original content doesn't have a legacy to stand on, but there's also a coming reckoning for sequels at the theaters too. Not like streamers are doing much better either. They're starting to find their price ceilings and soon it'll be a game of greenlighting the least amount of content with minimal subscriber loss. The studios are doing all of this to themselves and nobody can stop it because we're all just cogs in the machine.The entire world needs to rethink work and art. We need to work less hours at essential job so there's enough work to go around. Jobs in the arts or cushy bullshit jobs need to disappear from payrolls. It sounds crazy, but the jobs people want to do but don't have to do shouldn't be full-time jobs. We need to pivot to making art out of passion, not out of money. We need people to find purpose that isn't garnished in dollar bills. Think of when you were in school and you played sports or acted in stage plays or would go to clubs. We need to bring back these passions for adults. Art should be made by the people who want to make art even if there isn't a promise of a paycheck after the work.
>>153948598it's the only shit argument they have to try to tell us to accept killing human creativity for sake of fast food art.
Getting subtweeted by Guillermo del Toro probably had him shitting his pantalones
>>153948598They’re not so much people as they are goycattle
This board is so God damn weird, you all hate artists. There's more politics here than on/pol/ it's the same three conversations over and over again and it has nothing to do with actually cartoons or comics just has to do a hate others and screaming about AI. The cultural war conversations on here are all 10 years old consisting of things that Doom clock has said or the quartering both of them now irrelevant
>>153948677>human creativity You mean shitting out sequels non-stop?Fuck off boy. Humans aren't special.
>>153948695The general public like sequels that has nothing to do with artists.
>>153948461Here’s what’s going on (various quoting and paraphrasing from previous threads):>Microsoft just recently cut all usage of Claude for coding because they're now being billed based on usage and the bill was fucking insane>In general, Microsoft forbids their IT engineers using AI because it's expensive; AI costs more than human labor>Uber burns through billions of dollars due to AI>Sora fucking dies because AI video generation was just too expensive, burning through millions per day>Supreme Court declined review for copyrighting AI-generated art>Deviantart is struggling because AI-generated "art" has gone rampant on the website (it's gotten to a point where you're only allowed 10 free downloads per week and they beg you to purchase Core)>Google's AI had a fault in it's coding when you google search the word "disregard" or other words and it's AI generated answers are still inaccurate or just plain wrong>/r/ as a board literally got removed off 4chinz because of AI deepfake porn overwhelming the boardWe’re in the endgame
>>153947598So now what? Is he going to act that this whole thing never happened and we should forget?
>>153948131>He was going to make a few shorts for Amazon that had some implementations of aiI am opposed to this.>leftists on twitter doxxed his kids and threatened to kill themI am really opposed to this but it seems to have worked.
>>153948706>The general public like sequels that has nothing to do with artists.You retard, why would Disney spend millions on those movies if they had no artists?They agreed to it which means they support sequel-itis.
>>153948683Also who knows what kinds of messages he got in private from other industry people. This instant back tracking is a hilarious display of his own retardation. He did not think this through. This nigga seriously thought he wouldn't get instantly blacklisted and burn all the connections and goodwill he formed over the years.
>>153948683Yeah Punky Duck was not a show that was going to let him never work again, and that started to look like it'd be the case if he went through with that.
>>153948071> carb in a bucketThis makes me feel hungry
>>153948708But you guys... all the blue checkmarks on X are saying AI is the future.. adapt or get left behind...THE GENIE'S OUT OF THE BOTTLE!!!!!
>>153948623Was he actually blacklisted?
>>153948290>butthurtKek
>>153947976Uuuh, this seems like reasonable reactions to me. No one else here see it like that?
>>153948487>Would John K do AI? I only suggest because he's scummy enough to consider it for money's sake, in spite of his perfectionism.At least he would finally deliver shit on time.
>>153948708SAAR NO YOU CANNOT POST THESE THINGS MY SAAR
>>153948774Nah but people will never let him live it down. He'll keep is in progress shows probably, but his reputation will now always carry the AI shill smudge.
>>153948558I'll have to ask to be certain, but if I were to guess it's that AI makes it really easy to produce a shitton of content that really doesn't get the views to justify hosting hundreds of hours of content from every slophole.We're going to need some sort of human authentication authority for new content in this era because higher-powered AI can generate virtually indistinguishable videos.
>>153948691Lol you call us “weird” while displaying how bizarre you are. People can have their own opinions. People aren't quoting those 2 youtubers I haven't watched. Ive barely watched any youtubers ever.Your opinions are locked in social acceptability which - ironically - ruins your ability to be creative as Beanmouth shows prove. Anons have no incentive to conform or standard to conform to.
>>153948683That's a fair point actually. Jeez.
>>153948766>muh just accept it, it's inevitableDon't worry, at least AI slop enthusiasts can showcase their legitimacy through the KPOP demon hunters rip-off and that stolen Buzzfeed cupcake show.(assuming Amazon doesn't cancel those too)Anyone remember those NFT animated monkey shows that were meant to come out? Riiiight.
>>153948708funniest part is if you go to /r/ now it straight up says “File not found.”, shit is GONE gone
>>153948824Bro the industry is dead and all we have is Glitch and a couple other things, stay in contact with reality, you arent winning this one.
>>153948774It's fake news. The industry doesn't kowtow to artists. In fact, Katzenberg was right.It's now 2026 and movies can be made without them now.
>>153948815 This is also largely because the most popular content format (or maybe second most beyond crazy practical effect undertakings like MrBeast vids) is incredibly easy to automste. Just get TTS to read an aislop Wikipedia summary and boom, hours and hours of ai video that's only marginally worse than the current videoessay trend
>>153948708Reminder that Polymarket still is stating ridiculously low odds (22%) that the bubble will burst this year.Buy "Yes" and nearly 5x your money by the end of the year.
>>153948774Younger artists and creators won't work with him anymore. Whatever ongoing projects he has will likely still come out if they're actively in production.Good luck in the future though. Studios may sniff his asshole, but no one else will. He's perma fucked himself.
>>153947598>bending the kneehow do retards keep making this mistake
>>153948708>We’re in the endgameGod don't get me hard like that anon~
>>153948824>Anyone remember those NFT animated monkey shows that were meant to come out?A few did, and they were sucking off Elon Musk so hard in hopes he'd invest in them. It was pathetic.
>>153948852>Younger artists Oh no, he wont get to work with trannies and mentally ill crackheads. The horror!
people are retarded to forgive him so easily when he's still vagueposting as to why he accepted the deal in the first place
>>153948839We can talk when Love, Diana Music Hunters and Cupcake & Friends drop. At least animation, even in its current dead state still has more productions out that exist compared to vaporware AIsloppa productions.
>>153948727You do know artists need to eat. For some reason you swallowed the belief that every artist is actually a multi-millionaire trust fund baby.
>>153948893Ah yes I'm sure the baby show that's already ripping off a big successful property and the BuzzFeed millennial show will do great
>>153948774No. Anons love to throw that term around because they don’t know how the industry actually works. They think people get blacklisted when they do something they don’t like. Blacklisting is rare and only really happens when it’s generally acknowledged by execs that hiring someone would be bad for business. That’s not because someone made a bad episode or a series of theirs flopped. It’s usually because they raped someone and being attached to a new project would generate overwhelmingly bad press or maybe they’ve developed a reputation for being extremely unreliable due to a drug problem. Blacklisting also isn’t an official process. There isn’t a literal list. It’s just something that happens when it’s universally acknowledged that it’s best not to work with a person. Jorge has a string of successes under his belt, has a reputation for being extremely friendly and easy to work with, is reliable, etc.He is still slated to work on the Speedy Gonzalez film, the MLAATR reboot, the Invader Zim reboot, and the El Tigre reboot.
>>153948290>Tripfag>Redditspacing>Abhorrent takeThanks for helping me fill my bingo card
>>153948851The Trump administration is going to do everything in their power to keep the bubble expanding until midterms. Then, if they lose, they'll let it pop in the first half of 2027 so they can blame Democrats on the fallout. Don't get me wrong, if the parties were switched Democrats would absolutely time the bubble pop.
>>153948900>You do know artists need to eat.Actually they don't. We have historical chads like Van Gogh who kept painting even when he was poor. Guess whose art is now being remembered vs the sequel shit that "modern" artists crave?
>>153948659That's not a high bar
>>153948852That’s the dumbest fucking thing I’ve read here yet. No young artist is going to turn down the opportunity to work with him just because he flirted with (but ultimately backed away from) the idea of using AI assisted methods.It would be different had he actually gone through with it, but he didn’t and young artists would be hungry for the opportunity to work on a project with such an established creator. This is the sort of thing artists would say if they weren’t actually good enough to ever have the chance to work with him anyway.
>>153948935Real artists make art even when there isn't a paycheck or popularity in the end.Unfortunately, the corporations don't care about quality art. The only art they want to produce is the art that moves merchandise.
>>153947598you're alright for a taco-eating greaser, pedro>>153947638you sound like a rape victim
>>153948978There are plenty of established younger people that will crowd him out. Dana Terrace and Matt Braly are already doing their own shit independently and they are already arguably more successful.
>>153948954Even Rick & Morty have more culture impact than most beanmouth shows. How many kids are yearning to play as... Star Butterfly? Or Luz Noceda?All those 2010s and 2020s shows are dead in the public eye.
>>153948935I'm pretty sure all sources say that Van Gogh ate food like a living normal human, I think you are confusing Vincent Van Gogh, the artists, with Lich king Van Gogh, the immortal.
kek they really hate him
>>153948695How many AI threads on this board start with an Elsa in the OP?
>>153949029Rick and Morty IS a beanmouth show you tard.
>>153949038They are second cousins actually
>>153949007He also burnt his relationship with Vivziepop and her studio.She probably regrets letting him put a foreword in Hazbin's upcoming artbook.
>>153948850I'm in agreement with you. The main idea I want to convey is that it's much cheaper to generate AI content than it is to actually store the damn slop.
>>153948071It certainly doesn't help that the most ardent anti-AI people act like AI is still at the level of only making images of people with multiple limbs or that terrible Will Smith spaghetti thing. It's way beyond anything like that now.
>>153949067oops
>>153949067Literally the lesser equivalent of google image searching something
>>153949067>700 persons lost their homes so an AI center could be built to generate this ass castle
well how do you feel now, /co/? you bullied this sweet, sweet mexican man out of his latest passion project because he dared use new technology? it was never about the money, even though he was set to make a lot from this- it was about the art, and giving new artists a platform to express their vision. sure the technology will displace a lot of manual artists in technically mundane roles, but since when did you care about a bunch of GBLTs who could afford art school
>>153949067>NO! You don't understand. It's really hard work to use AI.>which beggers the question of why they don't just paint it the old fashioned way then,
>>153949080>>153949092KEK!
>>153949041>Luddites can only think about violence.And they wonder why they're getting replaced.
>>153948815That's part of it, but AI is so obnoxious that it caused viewers to leave the platform and Google can't let that happen
>>153949067This is great bait honestly.
>>153949041Holy shit
>>153949122AIbros are perpetually jumping back and forth between>AI makes the process so easy!And>AI prompting is so difficult!
>>1539490671. Oh no. He had to hit "enter" a lot while the computer shat out a bunch of shit and then landed on one passable image.2. Look at the douche in a soiled smock. He didn't use paint. He didn't do any work. He typed in his fast food order and is proud is computer made slop.
>>153947640Usually they just bully them to suicide. Its not even about AI or anything, they just do it because they can.
>>153948793Taking anti depressants because a random creator you know was experimenting with AI is a normal reaction, yes.
>>153949149>I told something else to do it for me. I be a great artist
>>153947638I think this xitter poster is right ngl
>>153949147>Why does my Doctor charge so much money? Using a stethoscope is easy!
>>153949101Take your gay replies back to social media>>153949007>>153949061This is life without Christianity, no forgiveness just trying to lessen how the crowd will make you suffer.The crowd killed Jesus remember, and it's not any more fond of you, it just wants to use you.
>>153948695Your bait is shit
Jorge's entire existence feels like a performance and always has. All his projects are eyesores. He posts a selfie with every prominent person he meets, he's always posting "and then everyone clapped" stories on twitter. It's just embarrassing to watch.
Buncha liberal sissies being anti tech luddites. AI is the way of the future, and you are all stuck in the past clinging to old pencil and paper animation.
>>153949114It didn't look like a passion project to me. Maya and the 3 was made for storytelling. Punky Duck looks like slice-of-life that doesn't know how to relax.If there's any lessons to learn from AI, it's that integrating the technology should be done gradually to ensure quality control. I don't think too many animators would complain if they didn't have to focus on timing. It's such a tedious job.
>>153949080correct, do industryfags on /co/ and Twitter really think that executives aren't gonna cut cost by letting AI do the in-betweens in the animation or replace overpriced VAs?
>>153949171The truth hurts faggot.Modern art is just chasing flavor of the month, over and over again. There is no creativity. You're just hacks.
>>153948379Idfc he betrayed artists everywhere
>>153947976>MontyI thought he died.
>>153949188Everybody says this but they don't know what AI is actually capable of artistically.
>>153949205>Hey guys don't you know artists are evil like that banana on a wall, even though it was bought by a crypto guy it was actually evil artist who sold it.
>>153949182AI is inevitable, but it very much needs to find its pace and place. AI would be much more well received if the technology was integrated slowly instead of shoved in our faces at every turn.
>>153949092>correct number of fingersDid you have a point? If the speech bubble is the biggest criticism you have for that image, you sort of made my point for me.
>>153948708>decimated AIjeets so badly they couldn’t even form a canned reply
>>153949007Dana sure. Dunno ‘bout braly tho
Ah, good old /co/mblr reeks in this thread. You guys are like the Japanese holdouts for anti-AI. Why don't you guys be like /v/ and embrace AI already?
>>153949268Oh wait misunderstood sorry. This is about animation not about would they work with them.
>>153949160True. Photographers aren’t artists. They should learn how to pick up a paint brush.
>>153949277The only gaming that works nowadays is either very obscure games from Japan or retro gaming. Everything nowadays sucks Nintendo still got it but they beat their workers with whips and chains to get something good there's no good modern products they're all just quasi movies with no controls. Hell you walk in the wrong direction the game breaks. You're literally asking me to eat poop from a butt or poop from a butt
>>153949277>Why don't you guys be like /v/*toilet sounds*
>>153949277Dunno ‘bout DS2 or Divinity but COE33s ‘ai’ usage was just placeholder assets. If none of them made it into the final release nobody would have known or quite frankly cared. There would be no big online stink about how the game is ruined now and doesn’t deserve its awards because it dared to use ai assets (kinda unavoidable nowadays contrary to popular belief) as placeholders.
>>153949285Shut the fuck up you disingenious faggot. Take your pro-ai shit and shove it. You want to go suck ai’s big fat dick somewhere? Kiwifarms is right goddamn there and that site is filled with ai loving ballwashers like yourself.
>>153948708And the Pope published a 70 page document on why AI is bad for humanity.
>>153948102>SINGLE BIT OF PROFIT FOR ANYONEAmatuer visual novel makers and furry 'art' enthusiasts have made a few cents. I think that is the most ideal scenario. Personally I think major studios have been using AI in one form or another because they are dead set on reducing jobs with skill requirements to the level a monkey could do it.
>>153949328How am I disingenuous? I’m simply agreeing with you, anon.
>>153947710this, fandom nature fags never forgive you no matter what
>>153949063Youtube stores untold amounts of videos that barely break 1000 views because they're just random shit like someone with a webcam doing something uninteresting. The gamble is that Youtube can make enough revenue from one breakout video to cover the costs of hoping the others, and due to the spontaneous viral nature of these breakout videos, Youtube can't really curate them without risking losing a potential hit. Even if slop content is prolific, Alphabet's had decades to refine this head and tail approach into something workable and has had a hand in making several enterprising platforms out of it.It's likely what >>153949132 said. Even though the cost to store AI slop is probably a marginal issue comparatively, the space in a user's feed and viewing time is much more limited, and it's easier to see why someone would be burned more by getting recommended nothing but crap than those videos just existing in the same algorithmic void as "Playing with my puppy Baxter" by SparkleJaxFan26492 or whatever.Just for an example, currently there's a trend going around of AI narrators stroking out while narrating WWE news videos. A lot of people watching these are doing it for the strokes, but imagine being a genuine fan of WWE, clicking one of these videos, putting up with the annoying and meandering narration for five minutes before it slurps into "Wha- what wh what wh wh what" for ten minutes. You'd get annoyed, think "maybe I should just search this instead," click off, and Youtube loses a viewer. The only person who's gained anything from this interaction is the slopper pumping out garbage at the expense of Youtube, so from a business standpoint there's no reason for YouTube to facilitate that channel's monetization.Gif unrelated
>>153947598We live in an age where someone not doubling down on an wildly unpopular opinion is considered a win.
>>153949285Dude, you're saying this on/co/. I love photography, but all photographs come in one style- realism. A painting is a person's interpretation and not limited to what we all already can see.
>>153948708Meanwhile you still have these ai bros and shills on 4chan trying to smug post; probably to convince themselves they haven't wasted their time shilling for this crap like the NFT bros did when that was in swing.Hell even when the bubble pops or deflates, these jagoffs are still gonna try to act delusionally smug for god knows what reason beyond pure misanthrophy.
>>153949170>Take your gay replies back to social mediat. dedicated namefag
>>153949330Quit phrasing things like you're lying to a child.The Pope condemned needing to work in order to establish your worth as a human being, and all the main communities treat non-profitable non-socially conforming artists like trash as they did to Jorge before he conformed again.
>>153949380brown
>>153949264Jeetard the picture's whining is at odds with itself.>>Wa wa I'm not lazy I put in sooo much work!>Can't even be assed to fix an obvious mistake
>>153949346>click off, and Youtube loses a viewerBingo. They even announced that they're weighing session time more and punishing videos that cause people to leave so the new strategy is explicitly recommending another video at the end, even if it's by somebody else
>>153948708>GUYS THE BUBBLE IS GONNA REALLY BURST SOONYou guys been saying that since like several fucking months ago>>153949330Pretty sure the pope said to use AI to serve humanity not concentrate power
>>153949380>>153949376I don't care what a gay porn consumer thinks of me, everyone is perverted and lacking inner life in your mind.>>153949390Hilarious that you judge the world based on what races you like in your porn.>>153949347I'm proud to have opinions popular with one person: me
>>153949285You don't see photographers saying they painted the fucking thing, do you?A REAL analogy would be "I got SOMEONE ELSE to paint this for me so I MADE THIS"
>>153949285Photography is cool because it showcases beauty in our existing world. Even if it isn't "art" by your false equivalence I'd still rather look at it.
>>153948708NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>artists are terrible people and deserve to be homeless and all their work taken by AI also copyright should be illegal, please support AI artist and do not take their prompts. AI artists are real artists. AI artwork needs to be protected we need copyright. Don't feed my stuff into your model.
>>153949264coping faggots.>NOOOO IT REALLY IS HARD WORK. GIVE ME PRAISE FOR TELLING THE MACHINE TO MAKE IT FOR ME.
>>153949007Animation isn’t a zero sum game. Young artists would be happy to work with Dana Terrace, Matt Bradly, AND Jorge Gutierrez. I don’t think you understand how fucking hard it is to get gigs. If any of these people were staffing up for a new film or show, young artists would trip over themselves getting in line to show off their portfolio. It might have been a little different had he gone through with it, but at this point he’s just lost a little face. The type of people who will never get over it are also the type of people who also aren’t actually working in the industry.
>>153949061Source?
>>153947692Absolutely, This guy was talking about making a reboot of El Tigre with Invader Zim and Jenny X9, he’s always been a hack.
>>153949434You're an egocetric schizo who has made nothing with your life and worship a groomer pedophile. You think so highly of yourself that you namefag on an anonymous imageboard despite having no life experience, and the world wouldbe better without you.You are a Redditfag by every metric except literal.
>>153949161When will Jesus allow me to kill these maggots and toss them to the hands of demons?
>>153949479He's liking pro ai posts and comments on Instagram still. He's only sorry he got caught and animation spergs will not forgive him.
>>153947640His dream was making more El Tigre and book of life, anything beyond that is corpo bullshit
>>153949356that's not true. Photographers can manipulate an image with skills in both the actual photography and developing/printing later on. The choice of lenses, lighting, film stock etc. can change how an image looks, and good photographers are aware of this, not to mention needing a good eye to see what would make a good photograph to begin with.comparing it to throwing some prompts in grok is stupid.
>>153949337>furry 'art' enthusiastsAs well as some other 'artists' on xitter. Never forget that Shexyo switched from being a CSR clone to a fully-fledged AI slopper like a light.
>>153948614You too, huh?I have no idea what it is with boomers and Gen X where they're hypnotized by this shit.
AI is the death of art so it's not only okay to destroy people who shill it and want to pollute artistic expression with it but also necessary. On top of that if you haven't figured it out by now pro-AI shilling is AI itself, 4chan is full to the gills with AI bots trying to shill itself. All pro-AI posts are in fact AI. AI art isn't art in any capacity so the notion that "there won't be any animators or animation" doesn't hold water since by definition AI slop is anti-art. I even filter AI porn on all boorus and such. It has no purpose in existing. AI users are to be actively shamed and ostracized.
>>153949165Nobody alleges that using a stethoscope is easy. Maybe ask Chat GPT to come up with an analogy that actually works next time.
>>153949523I'm going to inb4 your post with what I know the AIfags are going to say."How is that any different than changing a model or prompt? In the end you're still capturing images of something you didn't hand-make!"
>>153949346Thank you anon. Your perspective helps.I do expect YouTube to get to the point where they'll limit how much video can be uploaded in total, not just daily like they do now. The people that upload personal videos aren't uploading the mass amount of data like AI users. I'd be perfectly okay if YouTube said that if I wanted to upload more videos of my cats I would need to subscribe to YouTube or Drive.Basically the best bet is not to stomp out the slop but make it so then slop would not be worth the monetary risk/expense.
>>153949545maybe you are ai the way you talk or maybe I am one because I type in lower cases
>>153949158Cherry picking a mentally unstable poster out of all the responses to get upset over is also a normal reaction.
You won't hate AI enough until you are forced to deal with a delirious automaton that replaced human customer support, which only replies with outdated information and talks in loops about how to solve a real problem.
>>153947598Why are people so assblasted about AI being used as a tool for animation>Hur dur muh slop>Hur dur muh stolen assets >hur dur muh tech scares meDo none of you see the actual benefits of using AI? Like putting in key frames and using AI to do the in-between? Using it for inking your sketchy drawings? Helping with rigging 3d characters? UV mapping? Texture alignment? Speeding up shading processes? Like no one ever seems to realize that yeah AI actually does have a bunch of practical uses and I say that as someone that actually has animated in the past. I really don't understand how people can get so fucking angry over a tool that has some many benefits just because its been used for shit. You guys realize animation has always had shit products right? >Buh buh the AI will replace the artist entirely! That's CEOs want!Hey guys have you considered that AI will make indie cartoons that are produced with heart and love that much easier? Hell Zeurrel is constantly bitching about how Monkey Wrench takes tens of thousands to produce. Imagine an episode of Monkey Wrench made on a tenth that budget because instead of having to draw over a thousand pictures per minute you could do it with a couple hundred. God I swear everyone that hates AI is just a dumb luddite.
>>153949622post actual examples of the supposed usecases
>>153949622Cool, what animated shows and movies can I watch right now?I'm waiting anon.
>>153949242AI would be much more well received if it stayed in its lane. There are things that it’s much better at doing than mimicking human expression. You know what would really save a lot of fucking money? Use AI to replace CEOs. They’re just glorified bean counters anyway.
>>153949300>but they beat their workers with whips and chains to get something goodActually, the exact opposite is true, Nintendo consistently ranks highly on Japanese job review sites precisely because they DON'T do that.I think they're still ranked #1 in Japan in terms of employee satisfaction and worklife balance.
>>153947989Yes, creators will be able to use it as a tool to save time. Used appropriately, I think most people are okay with that. It's not actually going to replace anyone though because if it did, it'd just be good for creating slop. There will always be a need for human expression and for other humans to experience that expression. The people pushing AI don't actually think of "art" in terms of human expression. They see it as just a way to make money and even though they might make a lot of money in the end, they didn't actually contribute anything towards the need for human expression.
>>153949508>He’s liking pro ai posts and comments on Instagram stillGot an example?
>>153947598>After I made a career ending decision I have decided to undo that decision. Please do not unfollow me as I realize my mistake!
>>153949523Oh, I know photography/videography is still an art. I should have been clearer than that. It's just not as dynamic or diverse as drawing. Most cameras are about practical use of recording events today than in a creative capacity.
>>153949561Because they're NOT claiming to make the damn thing. Everyone knows photography is (most of the time) taking a picture of an actual thing. The skill is involved in making the picture look good. A good photographer can make the picture incite the desired response (see something as beautiful, see something as sad). A shitty photographer fucks it up so you're wondering why you're supposed to care about the thing in the picture.It's a totally different art form than drawing or painting. as opposed to AI which completely creates the drawing or painting FOR the person. The person does NOTHING except say MAKE THIS FOR ME.and we all know this. Is it time for that tweet again?
>>153949588>delirious automaton that replaced human customer supportoh my fucking god, this. Holy shit. The combination of AIs inability to actually address your issue, misinterpreting what the actual problem is, and the condescending way the responses come across is exceedingly infuriating.
>>153949673It's a different art form. You may as well drag interpretative dance into the discussion
AI faggots deserve nothing and I've yet to see anything to prove me otherwise
>>153947976>I had to dive into antidepressants just to avoid thinking about thisChrist, what a faggot
>>153948558>AI is getting nuked off of youtube along with those low effort animation content farmsI hope so. All AI slop should explicitly be labeled as AI so it can be avoided, and there should already be browser extensions that actively filter it in the same way adblockers work. The AI grift is like this: AI makes slop - bots "watch" the slop - profit. This is one of the reasons why Indians are panicking and shilling AI, it was supposed to be their infinite money glitch. Basically I can fully see AI slop being either banned or obligatorily labeled as such in the future on video streaming platforms because it's all basically just bots watching bots and extracting money with no actual humans involved in any way, shape or form sans the "elite human capital" putting in prompts in grok or whatever other shit. AI really is NFTs all over again. It's all just gross emptiness and a grift.
>>153949651>they didn't actually contribute anything towards the need for human expressionBut they did potentially contribute towards creators losing jobs in the process
>>153949165So youre saying artists need tight regulations including regulatory board committees and are liable to be sued or even put in jail for fucking up or being lazy?I know that is a false argument but your comparison is not the best.
>>153949702I just don't get what the argument is for. Yes, as companies cheap out, they'll use it more and more, and eventually it will probably replace everything. It's a given.But people seem butthurt when you tell them they aren't accomplishing anything by using it. You're not an artist if you tell something else to generate the whole thing for you. If you got a flesh and blood painter to make the picture for you, you wouldn't tell people "look what I made"
>>153948849>Jeffery, "Let's replace Goofy's VA with Steve Martin", Katzenburg
>>153949445Glad we agree photographers aren’t artists.>>153949456>Photography is cool because it showcases beauty in our existing worldNah, it sucks because you didn’t create it. Pick up a paint brush.
>>153949750You're arguing against a strawman that people want to go “generate me a Disney quality 90 minute animated film about doorknobs”, send it to theaters and make hundreds of millions of dollars.I use AI to create turnarounds for me with a few errors, even reproducing my shading and writing style! This helps me form characters.
>>153949644True. CEOs are basically following programming anyway, avoiding veering out into more innovation/risk.>>153949693Well, drawing and photography are forms of two-dimensional visual art. To me at least, photography is more of a sub-category.>>153949711I can get behind labeling AI content as AI-generated. That's just being honest. Though really, all AI trained on public data should probably be required to pay >99% of earnings (not profit which factors in expenses) to the public. It would probably make most of it economically unfeasible, but that's their problem.
>What did you suppose a witch of doom thinks about Igor? Believing in gravity for starters!
>>153948978He still considered and accepted the deal in the first place. He clearly only thought of himself in all of this, which is why he back tracked when the internet got mad at him.What sucker wants to work with a guy that flips and flops on his principals?
If we are dragging photographers into this I hope we drag music synthesizers and autotune too
>>153949841So he's not winning by giving in, the piranhas will just eat him slower and he very sadistic about it the whole time?
>>153949029The only argument you have is "I DON'T LIKE THING, THAT'S WHY AI GOOD". Be the change you want. Don't ask for shitty slop to do it for you.
>>153949812>I use AI to create turnarounds for me with a few errors, even reproducing my shading and writing style! where
>>153949812I didn't say anything about what you're babbling about AT ALL.I AM talking about the shit you're rationalizing about in the second sentence, trying to justify your lazy approach. YES. you're getting something else to do that work for you. It would be the same if you got a different HUMAN artist to do that stuff for you.You didn't do it. Someone else did. That's it. the end.
he's gonna get a big smack from amazon
>>153949681Photographers are trained to look at things in terms of light, symmetry, poetic juxtaposition, etc. You’ll often hear terms like “the decisive moment” tossed around. In candid photography, choosing which fraction of a second to freeze in time is key and makes the difference between a banal image and a profound one. Photos are often less about the subject in the photograph, and more about the photographer taking the photo. Everything from how the photo is framed, how it’s underexposed/overexposed, where it’s focusing, how much grain/noise is in the image, how it’s processed afterwards, contributes to the overall statement. A picture of a pigeon *could* be a lot of things. It could be a symbol of freedom. It could represent death. It could represent indulgence. It could represent over commodification and waste. It could represent religion. It could represent filth and seedy underbellies. It could also simply be a physical document of an animal. The pigeon itself is almost immaterial. All the tiny choices that go into how to photograph that pigeon are what contribute to the art. There’s a difference between what actually exists in the physical world and how we perceive that object. Photography is less about the object existing and more about how the photographer perceives it.
>>153949806>If I TOTALLY ignore what people say, then I get to be right.faggot you farmer
>>153949859I'll keep it to myself. Trade secret! Why share with people who aren't nice to me>>153949864Your mind is becoming unraveled. Its a turnaround of my drawing. Instead of having animation crew who don't want to work with me anyway draw one, I have AI do it for a few bucks a month.
>>153949825There's LOTS of forms of two dimensional art. You still don't judge them all by the same criteria.
>>153949445>>153949285Perhaps there is more to that analogy than we think. Photography is very technical with not just knowing angles but also predicting who the camera will process a shot with factors like the focus, lighting, the bend of the lens, etc.AI is also very technical with not just knowing what you want but the correct usage and weights and how each model operates. People dont realize that these website AI image generation services are very complex just to interpret common language sentence structures into promots and then into images when there is a lot of fine tuning that can or needs to be done with the same tools they use.To go back to the photography analogy, people think that big AI projects are easy which is the same as thinking photography is easy because you just point and shoot the camera. To bring it to something they would understand, that is like saying digital painting is easy because you can just use the fill bucket tool.
>>153949720I honestly don't give a shit about job loses. My issue with generative AI is that it hasn't made anything of high quality outside of the medical field.All there needs to be is some high-quality, beloved AI-generated intellectual quality that wins awards and makes over ten billion dollars for the public to favor AI.
>>153949889Glad we agree that it's not YOU that's doing it then. because that's my only point. People you use AI to make their products aren't artists, they're employers
>>153947598I'm tired of overly dramatic babies treating AI as big moral issue, get a life you faggots
>>153949496>>153947692Sounds like he's one of those guys that does all the talk and hyper but quits when people actually expects him to do work.
>>153949904>it hasn't made anything of high quality outside of the medical field.Can it cure cancer already? Of course the American Healthcare system would never tell us if that happens.
>>153947598I hope we find out how much he was getting paid by Amazon. I want to know exactly how much it took to get him to sell out and torch all the goodwill he had from his colleagues. It better be life changing generational wealth money otherwise it'll be embarrassing how cheaply people can be bought off.
>>153949568Thanks. A streaming company I used to work for used AWS to host, which costs around .4¢/GB monthly. I could imagine Alphabet's large enough that they're maintaining their own data servers, so, considering that AWS is making a profit from that meager amount, I'm guessing it costs Alphabet around a quarter per month to host a channel with frequent uploads. Even if the influx of slopfarms triples that amount (or whatever figure you want to pull out of your ass), Youtube was still giving dozens of channels enough money to buy California mansions while hosting the WatchMojos of the world, so clearly the maintenance costs aren't prohibitive.>but make it so then slop would not be worth the monetary risk/expense.I agree this is probably the case.One of the content managers at my forementioned job put it nicely: "We don't know what's going to be the next hit." Even if it's not the norm for the market anymore, a lot of viral videos are still just some rando normie fucking with a webcam/phone, and the Italian Brainrot trend was a successful meme, so Youtube really doesn't have any interest in starting to curate content. The biggest problem to the layman with AI isn't the industry shift, it's the prolific flooding of low-quality content as jeets compete for viewer attention with authentic channels. Those videos are a symptom of the model, which needs reconsidered.
>>153949812>I use AI to make turnarounds for me because I can’t do it myselfTalentless faggot detected. I guess all that training you got from John K didn’t amount to much
>>153949902Okay stop it now. It's giving prompts to it. This goes back to the >>153949067 cope. the selling point was that AI is supposed to be quick and easy but now people who use it want everyone to think there struggling with all kinds of hard work to make it happen.As I said, You're telling SOMEONE ELSE to draw the picture for you. that's it.
>>153948717>I am really opposed> but it seems to have worked.you're clearly not you piece of shit him making some dumb shorts would have in know way harmed you and you want to attack kids over it, you deserve to be raped to death
>>153949622>Using it for inking your sketchy drawings?These tools have existed for decades, and that's not what most people in the discussion about AI are talking about.
>>153947598proof that bullying works
I wish all these faggots had were half as worked up about the real issues in life
Guys support real animators so we can crush AI
>>153947598Del Toro got on his ass
>>153949301>/v/ is genuinely close to losing around an entire 50% of its traffic since 2022AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>153949479As I understand it, the industry is like the end of The Boys but you dont even get to be beaten with a crowbar before you are begging to eat shit and suck dick. Thats like your starting statement after you sit down.I do think a lot of these anti AI guys in animation people are also coming from an angle of hurting competition to them professionally. Not even competing against AI but to hurt other animators and beat them into stepping aside for them as an abuse trigger. X and bluesy has convinced me that any artist using it with an opinion is a psychotic, toxic person.
>>153949959Pretty sure I've told you before that you use talent as code for wealth and social clout.I do indeed lack industry artists willing to work for me and that's fine, they shall see a new age of independent productionsAlso you can't read my work>>153949983Oh wow really? A bunch of sadistic gay communists can threaten someone’s livelihood and social life?People like you just get a thrill to have any power over someone who can create.
>>153949545>AI is the death of artno it isn't retard not all drawings need to be high art some only exist for simple entertainment and that doesn't affect real art, you don't care about art your just scared it will take financial opportunities away from you. Well I have good new nobody was going to pay for your shit art anway.
>>153949992>People discussing CARTOONS ON A CARTOON BOARD I'M GOING CRAZYYYYYYYYY!!fucking retard
>>153949806What if I photograph something I made?
> all these anti tech ludditeswhen did 4chan get so gay
>>153950055Nah it's just /co/mblr ask /g/ for all the pro tech
>>153950004>faggots
>>153950044disingenuous retard
>>153950055When your jeetshart overlords shilled Windows 10 and turned search engines into weakling watered-down pieces of shit
>>153949947It clearly wasn't that much, otherwise he wouldn't have backed out of concern of being blacklisted(which will still happen anyway lmao).If they would have given him a generational wealth kind of sum, he would have continued with this, even with the knowledge that he'd never work in the animation industry ever again.This guy is clearly just a retard. The AI shills must have been over the moon to find a moron like this to help them "legitimize" their slop. So much for that.
>>153949902I mean, there is an extent people don't understand AI like they would understand painting or video games. Most art isn't created from wishing but from wishing then doing. I don't think the majority of the public has free use of modern generative AI powerful enough to produce high-fidelity visuals. I get frustrated when I try to generate an image via AI and am given something that isn't meeting all my requests and when I remind the AI to include it it incorporates it while knocking off one or two other specifications. It's easier to call it stupid and give up than it is to try something new and continue to fail at it but now you're out $20 as well.>>153949929I guess a guy used AI to cure his dog's cancer.
>>153949955What happened to the streaming company? Is it still around? I know a lot tried in the last decade and most failed. I ask because I'm thinking of starting my own. I know I'm late to the party, but I want to avoid common mistakes since I'm going in blind.
>>153949961Yep, you're a fill bucket user. I bet you dont even know what that means!
>>153950075>t overlords shilled Windows 10I don't think windows 10 was ever really shilled on 4chan and more importantly that's totally irrelevant to the topic
>>153950084>I guess a guy used AI to cure his dog's cancer.That's still something. The vast of energy used by AI should be seeking and developing life-threatening stuff like that. Not to flood the internet with AI slop.
>>153950055AIjeets are annoying as fuck and completely lacking in self-awareness, so they made everyone hate their guts.I don't even like modern cartoons and I still hate AIjeets because you're fucking annoying and you flood every site with your dogshit spam.
I'm honestly going to start supporting the hell out of AI out of sheer spite this is getting ridiculous
>>153949902>when there is a lot of fine tuning that can or needs to be done with the same tools [prompters] use.I love this cope. "Yeah dude you just don't understaaaaand how comolex prompting is!" Okay. Setting up weightes prompts, selecting data models, and the occassional refeeding/generative touchup. How much more complexity is there to it than that?
>>153950048What if I train AI on something I made?
>>153949559If you can't pick up a stethoscope with one hand and place it on a chest or body part, you are retarded. The point is the tool being easy doesn't change the KNOWLEDGE that comes with being a doctor.AI art is the same thing. It's an easy tool to use, but the masters have more experience you don't have. >>153949736No. I'm saying a tool being easy does not replace mastery and experience that comes with it.Or do you see yourself as a Master Chef just because anyone can hold a knife?
>>153950120>AIjeets are annoying as fuckretards spamming shit is nothing new to 4chan and old 4chan was so retarded that you could get it to hate anything simply by spamming it
>>153949876Pick up a paintbrush, talentless faggot.
>>153950144I'm not talking about 4chan you fucking moron, I'm talking about the entire internet.The entire fucking internet has been flooded with AI spam and bots, go fuck yourself, you're an annoying cunt and you should be thrown off a fucking rooftop.
>>153947598>bending the kneewhat a retard he just made it worse
>>153949445>A REAL analogy would be "I got SOMEONE ELSE to paint this for me so I MADE THIS">Bob Kane was the original AIslopper
>>153948708gonna look for some tech stocks to short, this is my chance to get some pocket cash
something that i notice with AI shills is that they tend to be very nihilistic and have a defeatist attitude towards everything that everyone is able to dothey can't write novels? get AI to do it they suck at drawing? so instead of learning how to get better at drawing and improving their craft they go to AI they don't know how to make music? instead of learning how to and improving at it, then turn to AIi don't want to talk to or interact with others, turn to an AI chat botthey don't want to seek out knowledge or want to learn how to do something or explore and interact with others in order to learn from themit's very anti-human
>>153950161>I'm not talking about 4chanwell too fucking bad because I clearly said 4chan you gigaretard
>>153950128Is AI-assisted art considered lazy? I mean, they still need to draw stuff, let's say an AI-generated background, but the characters are still drawn by a human.>>153950130Funny you said that I heard rumors of popular porn artists feeding their own art to AI just so they can mass produce it to their ignorant patreon subs
>>153949545Maybe art as an industrial produced product hiring artists, art itself cannot be destroyed because its a personal expression. I think confusing the two is an issue here. You dont go to crafts fairs and see people foaming at the mouth that industrialization took away their jobs.
>>153947638>>153947640AI should NEVER be used for widespread media (tv, movies, games, books, etc)... EVER.true creativity comes from the people. AI is just a support or tool hobbyists should only use.
>>153950201It's going to be hilarious when the token costs rise (and they already are) and they wont be able to afford these "tools".
>>153950203And everyone on 4chan also uses the internet outside of just 4chan you fucking retard.Even fucking Steam has been flooded with AIslop, some of which were literally used to spread fucking malware.Go fuck yourself.
>>153950201>Something I noticed with these car shills.Can't ride a horse? Just drive.Suck at jogging? Just get a car to make a delivery for you. Very anti-equestrian.
>>153950201They're spiteful mutants, low IQ brownoids with 0 redeeming qualities or talents who live in the biggest shitholes in the world, no surprise they're nihilistic losers. If I were them I would instantly suicide.
>>153950231>And everyone on 4chan also uses the internet outside of just 4channo retard not all of us are on twitter and reddit you fucking tourist and that's still irrelevant because I was specifically asking about 4chan and it's users. Seriously do you have brain damage because this shouldn't be such a hard concept
>>153950217I heard there are local models that can be used on gaming GPUs and even gaming laptops
>>153950217Open source ai models exist. Got any more bad takes?
>>153950074>>153950074it not disingenuous to point out the faggiest argument in the thread.ITS A CARTOON BOARD, STUPID!
>>153950270>no retard not all of us are on twitter and redditThe fact that your idea of the rest of the internet starts and ends at twitter and reddit tells me that you're a brown third worlder who doesn't belong here.Fucking kill yourself, I hope your entire village melts into a puddle of sludge, Ranjeet.
>>153950201nah I just like AI because it makes it easier for people to make shitty porn games
>>153950203>>153950270>pleasepleasePLEASE buy more AI stock please for the love of god we’re almost there just another $500,000,000,000,000 and 40 more years PLEASE I NEED THIS-kekaroohoohoo!
>>153947638>>153949277you losethe pope wrote a 42,000 word manifesto declaring war on AI! DEUS VULT!https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html
>>153950128The same tools artists use. Its called image 2 image. They dont want you to know but sometimes its easier to paint out the extra thumb than to tell it to not give you extra thumbs.
>>153950201On the parts of the internet I roam, AI shills are a very small minority. I think they're foolish for putting too much faith in AI when AI is far from reaching prime time and quality controlled needed now more than ever.
>>153950089It's still around. I'm not going to dox myself and say what it was, but the trick is that it operates through a market niche.The way it's business model is set up, rather than pay a flat monthly fee the client ends up paying a small amount when one of its users gets some media. Given some of the stupidity of how it's run I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't last ten years though.And, yes, before you ask there was an issue with AI slop flooding the catalog shortly before I left, and that was something that a lot of people complained about to the point where we were cutting ties with some of the media vendors and publishers that were especially bad... and our management was willing to put up with crap like Wownow.
>>153950276>>153950282I just realized if the AI bubble pops all the corporate models gets dumped on the internet free to download with all the PC gamers using their GPUs to shit up the internet
>>153950140Thats a better comparison, yes. Both the slopper and chefs produce something that can be judged on artistic qualities.
>>153950291>The popeThat's a brown religion.
>>153950151(you)
>>153950285>The fact that your idea of the rest of the internet starts and ends at twitter and redditgoogling something or watching cat videos on youtube doesn't have much to do with this AI discussion retard. Twitter and Reddit are the biggest social media spots that have the largest influence on internet culture. You're a retard desperately deflecting away from the actual argument
>>153950211>prompt:Make me an original Persona boss, (phallus imagery:0)
>>153950099>using the fill bucket is the same as telling someone else to make the entire thing for me.lazy faggot cope
>>153950254have you heard if walking my guy?
>>153950284it is disingenuous to purposely miss the point this hard, you troglodyte
>>153950342>googling something or watching cat videos on youtubeHoly fucking shit you are so brown it hurts, my fucking god, you people need to be barred from the rest of the internet.
>>153950342>Twitter and Reddit are the biggest social media spots that have the largest influence on internet culture.based and zased
>>153947638fpbp.
>>153950368who the fuck considers watching cat videos brown, you really are desperate post your hand if your going to push this you're brown thing so hard
>>153950358Wow, look at all those lazy disabled people. Why are they using a Wheelchair? Do they have no respect?
>>153950367what's the point then?
>>153949285>>153949149Ai gen =/= Photography
>>153950380Oh shit which one of you guys are bots? Am I a bot?
>>153950211>Is AI-assisted art considered lazy?Depends on how much of it is AI. If it's too the point where it triples your output, probably.Laziness isn't even in an inherently bad thing. Sloppiness is. AIfags usually lack the technical knowledge of how to make a good image and eye for detail to judge their over-renderes slop, so they overblow the complexity of their simple tools, not knowing a damn thing about the field they're roleplaying in.Litmus test for when it's okay to use AI: "Is this something the artist could reasonably do on their own?">>153950293>They dont want you to know but sometimes its easier to paint out the extra thumb than to tell it to not give you extra thumbs.Even if it is easier they just don't care to fix it. How many seconds do you think fixing the dialogue bubble error in >>153949067 would take?
>>153950393>who the fuck considers watching cat videos brownYou're brown because you think the internet is exclusively social media and video sites.Just as an example, catbox had to block all VPNs and data center IPs because vibecoded AI agents were using the site to host hundreds of gigabytes of random images and junk files, hammering the site's infrastructure at consistent times every day for a fucking month.
>>153950402hate ai, but child labor has been around since the first brat could squeezed out of a woman's birth canal
>>153949924>No, people are not allowed to feel passionate about debate topics unless it's the topics I am passionate aboutWhy come into this thread then faggot? Just hide the thread and move on with your day you stupid nigger.
>>153950394>I'm mentally a cripple! Did you consider that ableist scum?
>>153950435>you're brown because you didn't bother to name every insignificant site to existholy shit you're even dumber than I thought, seriously post hand
>>153950402>Smoking indoorsWe got smoking lounges>Child labourI wonder what sweatshops are? In those third world shitholes>Slave tradeAsk the human traffickers and their illegal aliens who got their passports stolen
>>153950021It's just bitching and moaning threads all the way down. 2016 killed and poisoned the place.
>>153950468>It's small, therefore it doesn't matterJesus fucking christ, I think we're done here, you're genuinely so stupid that it hurts.The next time you find yourself wondering why people hate AIjeets, remember this conversation.
>>153950402>citing slaveryBut the Confederates FOUGHT to keep more people in chains while the rest of the world abolished it.You luddites are stupid, lol.
>>153950299Thanks for the advice anon.>but the trick is that it operates through a market niche.That gives me confidence, because that's exactly what I want to do, with a genre that I love that deserves more respect. I won't expect it to be anything more than a side hustle, but if it goes beyond that, I won't complain.Most aimed to compete with Netflix, Hulu, Pluto TV under a "general entertainment" identity, which isn't an identity unless you're already one of the most established names out there.
>>153950435>Just as an example, catbox had to block all VPNs and data center IPs because vibecoded AI agents were using the site to host hundreds of gigabytes of random images and junk files, hammering the site's infrastructure at consistent times every day for a fucking month.Another tidbit that also belongs on the list >>153948708 here
>>153950214>widespread media>true creativityI agree with your statement but I think that widespread media absolutely does not support much creativity at all. I support AI in large professional media projects just because I have a disdain for it snd everyone in it and any horrible change would be something to watch.
>>153950488post hand retard
>>153950055it's just a handful of /co/mblr fags from ye olden days still kicking about because they have nothing better to doreally i've yet to see a single argument made against AI, the technology, and not AI, the nebulous evil controlled by some cartoonish depiction of a rich guy
>>153950317>Anon ignores all the blue in Europe
>>153950521>AI, the technologywhat does it actually do
>>153950402>silvery and child labor bad!>open borders and no immigration enforcement good!
>>1539502014chan is a haven for misanthropy. Some people here just really really really hate as a principle. No logic or sense, just "I hate the thing, no positivity, everything I don't like is gay and probably communist"And they'll keep saying it with a sense of smugness because that's all they have.The worst part is you can't convince them otherwise; they're so stubbornly stuck in their sense of smugness they'll just take any criticism against them as some magical medal on their chest saying they "won".I'm no psychologist; but I think they do it because if they actually did relax it, and let heir guard down, they'd quickly realize how much time they're wasting acting like this at all being just smug and negative; and that doing it is only hurting themselves and making them look dumb while they keep on with the delusion.
>>153950507Idk if you realize they only just stop AI spam. The sloppers in AI threads still use litter catbox to share prompts
>>153950562I'm going to say something controversial here.It is possible to be both a leftist who doesn't like AI destroying lives, slavery, and child labor AND who doesn't like endless third world cheap labor meant to suppress wages flooding into the third world because the global elite need endless cheap labor and social tension to maintain their control.
>>153950566>4chan is a haven for misanthropythis and Jeffrey Epstein's advisor emailed him about 4chan's founder. "The potential for manipulation is huge," he wrote
>>153950566Blame /pol/ and epstein they pretty much poisoned the well
>>153950599>flooding into the third worldflooding into the first world*
>>153950521>really i've yet to see a single argument made against AI, the technology, and not AI, the nebulous evil controlled by some cartoonish depiction of a rich guyBy this point that's because you actively refuse to.
>>153948659Patient zero of modern beanmouth is literally in Fortnite.
>>153950425>Even if it is easier they just don't care to fix it. How many seconds do you think fixing the dialogue bubble error in >>153949067 # would take?Honestly? 10 seconds in MSpaint. Probably several minutes to a minute if you re-genned it since you are taking the chance that it doesnt give you an iteration that doesn't make another mistake or it misinterprets your prompt.
>>153950217>>153950276>>153950309Doesn't doing that risk breaking your expensive GPU? Didn't GPU prices increase BECAUSE of AI bros?
>>153950621Go back secondary
>>153950628>baseless psychologizingstill not an argument
>stragglers still trying to hype up a board that’s 90% botted trafficrer
>>153950641Right. Anyone who's actually used an art program for more than a few minutes could do it. But AIfags don't, because they think they're better than artists, and confidently talk out of their ass about programs they know jack shit about while proudly showcasing how retarded they are with even their own tools.
>>153950521A bone Id pick is its always AI for image generation. These people never complain about AI helping their internet searches for factoids or helping them write something. I think its more important to know how to write well and know your grammar then to be able to draw pictures.
>>153950621>muh /pol/ >muh epstein>out of nowhere in an ai thread unironic bunker trannies in this thread
>>153950648>Doesn't doing that risk breaking your expensive GPU?If you're stupid, yes, you could melt your GPU, but with undervolting and good cooling, the GPU would do fine. I mean these things are designed to do gaming at 4k 24/7
>>153950562>open borders and no immigration enforcement goodYes?The truth is undocumented immigrants pay into taxes just like the rest of us but they don't get yearly tax refunds, will never receive Social Security, and are ineligible for tons of different government provided benefits. Not counting every other positive they provide to the economy, just from a tax perspective undocumented immigrants are the only thing propping up our Federal and State governments since both have shifted the entirety of the tax burden from the wealthy and mega corporations to mid-middle class on down which is exactly what was happening when the Western world collectively threw off the old aristocracy over a century ago.illegal immigrants? Just make em legal! They deserved human rights too!
>>153950599I dont know... that seems pretty unlikely.
>>153950621the beehive got kicked
>>153950217>token costs riseThat was a foregone conclusion for anyone actually paying attention. Tech companies always operate in the same way. >Provide a good or service for impossibly cheap prices. They like to seem counterculture by calling this “disruption”, but what they’re selling is a fantasy. The company is losing money, but they’re floating on investment cash. They can do this for years. >Get the public to convert from their old way of doing things due to the better deal>Push out the competition and corner the market>Once you have control, jack the prices and start reducing the quality of service and benefits. Investors make their money back and then some. Inevitably, people end up paying more for less, but since most other alternatives have been pushed out, they have no option but to suck it up. This is how streaming services worked, Amazon, Grubhub, Uber, etc. We’re in the “impossibly cheap” phase of AI right now, and everyone seems to think that AI is going to be the cheaper alternative forever. They are willfully ignoring the next few steps of the tech bro strategy. That said, that’s also why we’re seeing such an aggressive push to normalize AI. The general public hasn’t been becoming as reliant on AI tech as companies had hoped. Sam Altman said it himself…”We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for”. That said, adoption hasn’t been nearly as widespread as they need in order to move onto the next phase and they’re starting to panic that their investment won’t pay off. They’re desperately trying to normalize the use of AI and get people to think that it’s inevitable. Tokens have risen in cost, but it’s nowhere where they need them to be in order to make AI actually profitable. If/when they actually start charging realistic prices, it’s going to be far more expensive than most people think
>>153950672Neither is "lalala I can't hear you.">>153950712>These people never complain about AI helping their internet searches for factoidsThe LLMs at the top of google are basically just summarizing the pages at the top of the search results generated right below it. They're nice, but they're really not needed.
>>153950727>illegal immigrants? Just make em legal!No, I don't want the entire world to be India, fuck off.I'm a leftist and I'll support open borders as soon as Israel has open borders.
Proof that bullying works.
>>153950779>I'm a leftistYou're a DINO. A rare species, but they exist.
>>153950603>>153950621Exactly. The funniest part about that are all the people who just immediatly deny it.Because if they had to stop and actually consider that everything, EVERYTHING, in the last 10-15 fucking years was nothing more than being puppets to elitesThey would probably have a nuclear meltie realizing how much time they wasted being edgy chuds and alienating friends and family.15 years of whining about le woke, being pro NFTs and AI, licking Trump's sweaty ass. All in the hands of the global elite.because these people were destined for "glory" that was sold to them on a paper crackerbecause they would "own the libs" while being lined up on the wall with said libs, looking on smugly as they waited their turn to get metaphorically s hotBecause they deep down probably know they're destined never to reach any great heights; and might as well crab bucket the rest of humanity with them so they don't suffer alone.And yet they'll read this and disregard it as "lol u mad" and probably hide the post without even taking a second to consider that maybe they're simply wrong and that it's ok to be wrong.
>>153950811I'm not a Democrat, Democrats aren't leftists, they're just useful idiots.
>>153950309Anon, that’s not how IP and corporate assets work.
>>153950727>they don't get yearly tax refunds, will never receive Social Security, and are ineligible for tons of different government provided benefitsAnon specifically omits WIC, public education, and state-funded healthcare systems because they are inconvenient to his narrative.
>>153947638>>153947640Saaaars
As an aside, something I find really interesting is the whole "democratize art" stock shill quote, the way that it always comes exclusively from people who would argue that democracy is the worst form of politics ever created. Similarly, the way that they often leap to calling people commies for rejecting their AIsloppa despite the fact that their false god operates purely on the idea that you will genuinely own nothing and have it fed into AI ouroboros. Earnestly, I've never seen a group of people as ideologically-confused as these guys.
>>153950831All leftists are useful idiots, I regret to inform you. A lot of rightists, too.
>>153950779NTA without their labor the economy would collapse there’s a reason they restrict immigration, it keeps the cheap labor going.
>>153950926>NTA without their labor the economy would collapseI don't care, fuck the economy, I don't want the entire world to become India, if I have to choose between the economy collapsing and the entire planet becoming India I will choose the former any fucking day of the week.
>>153950599yes, that's called having nuances. Nobody ever said you need to be wholly one way or another. You can be socially liberal but financially conservative. It just feels controversial because you're in an era where politics have turned into hooligan sports teams.
>>153950648It positively does not. GPUs have safeguards to prevent overheating, so unless you intentionally are overclocking it will never be an issue. Really I'd say running a game using Unreal 5 is a bigger threat to your card. GPU prices shot up first because of China bitcoin farms and again because of silver prices. Also because Nvida likes to see number go up. In every case people blame 'AI' when the core problem is the Chinese operating with the mentality of human locusts, but good luck telling people that.Back to genning at home, just about any board here has a dedicated thread to home sloppers. I personally think the anti AI stems from pornographers in fear that genning your own smut and weird fetishes actually cures your porn addiction, and that terrifies them. Then again, I generate fox girls in wizard hats exclusively.
>>153950761Those AI summaries are garbage once you dig a little deeper. I've gotten burned too often where it turned out the summary was generated from a nonsensical combination of fandom wiki pages and SEO content farms. Some legitimate sources might be included but the fact that garbage also gets mixed in makes it obvious it's just a probability generator mindlessly using gamified SEO metrics. I also want to point out that the fact that the AI summary is crammed at the top of every search means that Google can technically claim AI use went up exponentially because you have to scroll past it to actually check the search results.
>>153950926t. the "I need a living wage ($15/hour) working at McDonald's" crowd
>>153950831>>153950875Useful idiots is just a buzzword coined by a planted KGB agent; because getting Americans to scream at each other over lines in the sand is easier and cheaper for the Soviet Union than actually doing any actual manipulation campaigns.Just point and someone someone doesn't like and say "he's a commie/nazi". everyone does the rest for you.
>>153950873information can't be "owned" and IP laws are illogicalthey only exist by fiat and the threat of violence
>>153950968>You can be socially liberal but financially conservative.Yes, you can pretend to believe in whatever you think will bring in the most money and have a chance at joining the actual ruling class.
>>153950758> ”We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for”It’s a bold strategy and banks on the fact that people will willfully give up intelligence. It’s already starting to happen. I know people who joke about not remembering how they ever did anything without Chat GPT (but they’re kind of not joking). People think that losing cognitive facilities to AI seems too dystopian to be real, but not too long ago people actually used to memorize countless phone numbers before everything was stored in cell phones. Personally, I was very good at spelling before autocorrect took over. The more we give over to AI (coding, animating, designing, etc) the more we’re going to forget how we ever did anything without it and I think that’s fucking dangerous. Once people rely on AI for *everything*, they’ll have to pay whatever companies want to charge in order to do *anything*. AI bros try to make it seem like it’s just making things more efficient for now, but it’s a slippery slope.
>>153951006Its 25$ where I live and that still is not a livable wage.
>>153950820this reads like a shitty reddit copypasta attempting to become "iconic"
ai won /co/ lost
that's actual censorship by the way, next time you people cry about anime or something
>>153951012Someone got mad that they were accurately described, huh?
>>153950926>NTA without their labor the economy would collapseonly cause you retards built the economy around it in the first place so the CEOs could buy some extra yachts
>>153951060I'm just saying the honest truth at heart. The soviet's played us good. Look at social deduction games and how easy it is to get people against someone innocent by just waiting for a moment and going "what are they up to?", before walking away to do other things.Is me taking away your definition of useful idiots, specifically to whine about the left really that bad for you? What if everyone was fooled including you and I? Or can you not fathom any outcome where you aren't in any superior position?
>>153951038>Its 25$ where I liveCalibro…
>>153951038So where's that leave Juan Sanchez making $2 an hour, both as a person and as your potential replacement?Open Immigration is shit, and so is the legal obligation of publicly traded companies to try to give shareholders profits. You take out the latter though and this "we NEED a slave caste" cope dies.
>>153950317>what is colonizationlmao the alt-right really is full of mentally retarded, child-raping faggots kek
>>153951119>What if everyone was fooled including you and I?Epstein files. Anything else you want to make an easy gotcha moment?
>>153947598Anudduh day anudduh victory for the OGs Taking down the sweats and the impostors among us
>>153951119>Is me taking away your definition of useful idiots, specifically to whine about the left really that bad for you?t. gaslighting idiot who omits that a sizable portion of the modern left unironically simps for the Soviet Union.
>>153951012Not exactly, or rather not entirely. Its a legitimate phrase they made up be it also applies to the erstwhile believers in communism that betray their own governments but are actually marked for elimination by the government they are working for. These people are 'useful' because they are performing a service for the communist government without any risk or real investment by that government but are an 'idiot' because completely unaware of the political intricacies they are jumping into or that the people they are helping will kill them when they are no longer useful and become a problem.
>>153951156why are you posting that ugly lesbian what does she have to do with anything
>>153951012>>153951119https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy
>>153951183ugly lesbian indie show >>> fat mexican corpo sloppa
>>153947640>trannies out of nowhereWhy don't you guys just come out of the closet already?
why do mods and jannies let these obvious off topic threads stay up
>derailed to generic politicszamn, AIbrowns got ate up and shat out today
>>153947598So do Anti-ai folks know they're the bullies, right?Even the anti-woke crowd knew that, that's why they made a business outta it.
>>153947638He can make better cartoons without AI. Go drown yourself in the Ganges, Ranjeesh.
>>153951168>a sizable portion of the modern left unironically simps for the Soviet Union.I fucking wish.
>>1539513021/10 bait
>>153948102sure deep fake and hentai creators make a decent chunk of money
>>153951302>So do Anti-ai folks know they're the bullies, right?90% of the comments towards Jorge picking up AI were reasonable expressing their disappointment. The real bullies are the pro-AI blue checkmark assholes who try to shame you for not using AI, and that it's an inevitable future because "The genie's out of the bottle so you BETTER FUCKING CONFORM NOW", despite it not affecting their lives at all.
>>153951320They do, they're called "pinkos," and thanks for affirming that you're one of them
>>153951336I don't think AIslop porn is even pulling in much money these days, especially when anyone who cares at this point can just gen their own slop.The highest-paid AIslop porn maker is probably making less per month than I do working a mid-low tier desk job.
>>153951345>pro-AI blue checkmark assholes who try to shame you for not using AII'm sure more people are getting shamed for not using AI instead of using AI...That's why people are afraid of admitting to using AI...
>>153947598Glad he changed his mind>>153947638Lol, fuck off
>>153950402Does this person know how much smokers are saving us from over inflated taxes?
>>153951416Explain
>>153948160would the industry bother addressing someone blacklisted?
>>153951383Maybe the thing you should be wondering is why people crave the approval of artists and other creatives (who are supposedly well on their way to being obsolete) instead of being happy with the approval of techbros, middle managers, and third worlders.
>>153951435It was mostly a joke but Cigarettes have high taxes placed upon them so if all smokers dropped dead all that tax revenue would cause a big dent to the government.
>>153951469>crave the approval of artistsEw.
>>153951479That doesn’t sound trueThere’d be a dip but I’d think sales tax of other goods would make up for it
>>153948659Oh, I forgot the image. I repeat: patient zero of modern beanmouth is in Fortnite.
>>153947598That's good.But sadly the damage is already done.
>>153951497so why are you guys on /co/
>>153951528see>>153950566AIsloppers are only here to make everyone else miserable to distract from their own miserable existence.
Mods can you move this to trash already? This is about on par with a thinly veiled e-celeb thread on v. Its not really on topic at all.
>>153951551>Thinking /co/ mods do anythingYou must be new
>>153951528You know why anyone comes to /co/ these days, and it ain't for the comics or cartoons.Don't lie to yourself anymore.
>>153951383No, actually, the AI obsessed X blue checkmarks, despite being a much smaller portion, are very loud and vocal about how amazing AI is and that the future is set in stone, and your life and career is pretty much over if you don't conform. The blue checkmark guarantees their shit takes get seen more, and for every "HOLLYWOOD IS COOKED" video, most of the comments are blue checkmarks circlejerking each other to push their point even further and profit off each other.Maybe anti-ai people would be a little more tolerant, if their narrative of "YOU ARE WRONG FOR NOT USING THESE TOOLS, CONFORM OR DIE" wasn't shoved down their fucking throats at every possible moment.
>>153951590>>153951345Sounds like you guys need to get off the X-bird if this is bothering you so much. Or touch grass.
We went from AIbraps jacking off AI clips getting several million fake views on twitter to telling us to forget all about twitter
>>153951619Anon do you realize that board we are on. Expecting anyone here to touch grass is kinda stupid. I mean seriously have you SEEN the TADC threads mate?
>>153947939you have about 5 years before every animator is using AI, probably much less
>>153951570>Doesn't answer the question
>>153951703That’s what they said back in 2022How many years do you guys need for this shit to be industry ready?
>>153948169we're rapidly approaching the point where you won't be able to tell the difference and companies won't tell you if they are or not (because they all are)
>>153951619>Sounds like you guys need to get off the X-bird if this is bothering you so much.The reason I'm talking about X checkmarks, is because they represent most bad actors trying to aggressively push AI everywhere. There's no ambition to make anything good, just quick and fast for money, regardless of the negatives it brings to others. And the attempts to manipulate everyone who doesn't like it that this is "the new normal so you better accept it or get left behind", despite many cracks being exposed this year so far. All AI bad actors have these values, but X Checkmarks are the most shameless.It's fucking pathetic, none of them are making anything of value. Only force a narrative and flood the internet with slop, with hopes the magic algorithm notices them and they might make 8 cents.
people just don't want to pay workers anymore
>>153951720yes, and now AI has improved substantially. it will only get better. you cannot whine enough to stop AI from changing society or the entire economy and every single industry except for something like actual physical art
>>153951497You're right. Clearly the people willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for monkey jpegs are worth our time.
>>153951733>companies won't tell younot how it works buddy they need to tell you because our economy relies on speculative investmentsif they don't show that they use AI, then they don't get that sweet investor money
>>153951756Trannies keep saying the same thing about HRT.
>>153949277Expedition 33 is faggot shit
>>153951776then they will reveal they do use AI when enough consumers are normalized to AI. so you have a generation at most. look, I haven't told you if I personally like AI, I'm telling you what's gonna happen. get ready.
>>153951792Will this generation happen in two weeks?
>>153951551You should probably be reporting this repost>>153951790
>>153951792>then they will reveal they do use AI when enough consumers are normalized to AI. so you have a generation at most. look, I haven't told you if I personally like AI, I'm telling you what's gonna happen. get ready.You have a blue checkmark on X.
>>153951789AI niggers are the trannies of the tech world
>>153951756we will whine about physical art and ai has made it even more valuable.
>>153951808two years, 5 years if you're lucky if you're in the animation industry, good luck and I'd advise trying to find a second career
>>153951791>Expedition 33 is faggot shittrue but it was a huge success both finically and critically, AI is clearly here to stay
>>153951834They really are. Every single AI faggot argument I hear can have a couple words swapped around, and it'll be something that trannies say, because they're essentially the same creature: bitter losers with envy towards some group they're not a part of, using a venture capital industry for their identity, coping with its current inadequacies by repeating a promised (allegedly) inevitable Elysium in some indeterminate future.It's at a point where I'm probably going to sit down and make some side-by-side smuggies in the near future of the uncanny similarities.
>>153951905you are delusional. AI isn't going anywhere. orange man has approved the funding of putting who knows how many data centers but we're in an AI arms raceidk what the future looks like but it's not bright for animators
>>153951886Yeah, and in that same timeframe, HRT and conventional surgery is going to make troons indistinguishable from women, right?
>>153951922I hate trannies so I don't think much about HRT, but you're probably fucked and you should find a second career or change your dreams while you still can. or you can embrace AI secretly kek
>>153951886>>153951915Did a web animator turn you down in high school or something?
>>153951915>AI isn't going anywhereAgreed, but we're it's being forced and shoved down our throats everywhere whether we like it or not, or if it's liability to the product. Look at Pizza Hut.Things will calm down and maybe we can actually use AI responsibly instead of literally everywhere.
>>153951931>Weird vindictive strawman anytime he's criticized.Swap "animator" for "Nazi" and, look, it's another tranny argument!
>>153951936if AI doesn't go anywhere, I will remain unaffected. If AI does go somewhere, you might be out on the street. I am telling you that AI will change society in very good faith here and you should prepare. this isn't blue sky where you will get likes or hearts saying retarded cope
this is just a publicity stunt by horge so people will fund his vampire show
>>153948594how can he get a job if ai is taking them all
>>153951944>maybe we can actually use AI responsibly instead of literally everywhere.we could barely handle smartphones and social media...
>>153951951>I am telling you that AI will change society in very good faith here.100% Bullshit. You manipulators only care about forcing people to assimilate to your way of life. Go fuck yourself.
>>153951915>hinging your economy on AIIt won’t be bright for any American
>>153951951>If AI does go somewhere, you might be out on the street.Rhetoric like this really reinforces the theory that the shilling is coming from retards using shitty machine translators (a tautology, I know) and coming to the conclusion that /co/ is somehow the hotspot for animators and industry officials You would genuinely only say something like this if you were under the impression that this place is jampacked with people with industry jobs, or -ever- had industry jobs and not consumer NEETs
>>153951915Orange Man will probably succumb to his age before he leaves office.
>>153951915>Inorganically pushed by the government via someone with vague connections to Epstein.>>153951951>Weird petty vindictive strawman against everyone who calls him a faggot, combined with petty revenge fantasy against imaginary opponent in which the corporations take revenge on his behalfYet more shared traits between AI and the transgender movement.
>>153951213>indieGamegrumps is run by fat corporate millionaires. Same slop.
>>153951979how am I manipulating you my delusional, coping friend? >>153951985no, I am telling you that this industry in particular is EXTREMELY threatened. and AI is inevitable. I am not a bad guy telling you to prepare for the probable collapse of the animation industry.>duuuur i'm a consumer NEETthen you're just some retard with no skin in the game. keep crying about AI. I still haven't said whether I liked or dislike it either btw lol
>>153952018>AIjeet starts redditspacingGo back to r/dogecoin you fucking windowlicker.
What do you clowns actually think “AI” does? I’m so tired of this obnoxious doomfaggot psyop where you pretend it’s some omnipotent god machine
>>153952018>"cope">More promised Elysium>Projections of crying despite very apparent seethingMore trannyspeak
>>153952042yeah bro if you piss your pants on twitter loudly you'll kill AI in its tracks
>>153947640lgbt, woke, anti ai, bluesky, reddit people are all the same sjw tranny faggots.
>>153947598WE WIN CHADSAI CHUDS TAKE THE L
sometimes I feel like we have unironic r/singularity browsers here
>>153952018 >I still haven't said whether I liked or dislike it either btw lol>gets weirdly defensive over aiGee I wonder
>>153952018>how am I manipulating you my delusional, coping friend?Talking like this. You have no reason to care about my well being. I'm a random nobody who just wants to live my life doing things without AI. Why the fuck do you care so much, unless you're a bad actor trying to "recruit" me like a cult.Go fuck yourself.
>>153952073the funny thing is, AI has become a political issue. America MUST become the top "AI Country" or it will lose everything. it doesn't matter who they vote for, the president will devote billions to it because US interests cannot risk losing to the Chinese
>>153952072How many thousands did you lose in shitcoin?
>>153952098>America MUST become the top "AI Country" or it will lose everything.You're an idiot for believing this excuse. Even China has stricter AI laws than the US now.
>>153952096I don't give a fuck what you with AI, retard. we're talking about THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY. AI is going to flip the whole thing. if you're just some retard I don't care what you think.
>>153952105>I don't give a fuck what you with AI, retard.You sure act like it. What's with all this talk of being "left behind" and "on the streets". Seriously, fuck off. I don't need your "help". Nobody does.
>>153952091Yeah no shit the AIjeet got so mad he didn't check his redditspacing >>153952018
>we're talking about THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY. AI is going to flip the whole thing.on Opposite Day, meanwhile shit’s getting gobbled up by Glitch for breakfast
>>153952105>I don't give a fuck what you with AI, retardt. Spent all thread crying because people don't like it, even making weird revenge AIfag revenge fantasies.
>>153952117if you're an animator with your livelihood up in question...yes, 100%. the industry might collapse overnight. your tears won't change it.>>153952149I'm just telling you what's going to happen and telling you to prepare. you can cry about it, but it won't change anything at all lol
>>153952053And I’M fucking tired of seeing ai generated slop everywhere and companies replacing perfectly valuable workers and artists with some dumb LLM model or some fucking shitty machine that STEALS ART.
>>153952174Dude I can smell your tears through the screen.How much DID you lose on shitcoins, pRedditfag?
>>153952193I don't have any digital currency
>>153952176If the state of western media was in a better state, I'd believe you but...Japan's chill, they don't seem to have an issue.
>>153952198I didn't ask how much of the bag you were still holding, migrant faggot.
>>153952176and do you think they're gonna stop? no>>153952227I don't know what to tell you. I think you're doing more damage coping. some people in the animation industry might actually buy into your cope and be fucked later down the line. try to think harder and further into the future.
>>153952210makes sense, that attempt at a vtuber AI anime (that was really just 3D traceovers) floppa’d
>>153952240You're seething a lot for such a simple question.How much money did you lose in shitcoins, predditfag?
>>153952258yare yare...you're hallucinating some weird bitcoin scenario in your confusion...
>quirk chungus ellipsesrer
>>153952283I said shitcoin, not bitcoin.Why do you keep avoiding the question? Was it ACTUALLY dogecoin?
>>153947976>i had to take antidepressants because you did the ultimate fucky wuckySomething's horribly wrong with zoomers, especially twitter zoomers.
>>153951959>so people will fund his vampire showgood the pilot was great
>>153952174>if you're an animator with your livelihood up in questionit was already in question, the industry's pretty much dead anyway
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>repost thread got wipedKEK
Guess I'll be the last post....OOOOHH AHHHH... ABOOUT TO BUUUUSS! AHHH AHHH AAAAAAHHH FUUUUUUUUH! *SPLORT
>>153952661Kek
>>153952661I steal your finale post!
>>153952661The lesson of the thread: If you're gonna scab; scab all the way instead of cowering out because you couldn't handle the clap back.Or just don't fucking do it in the first place.
>>153952661Bag. That was swell.
