our heroes>>153945838
Oska rape
>>153947913oh my god, that jax looks pretty horrific
So we all agree that shit was so ass right?
ragatha
mwah~
ITS MY EDITION
>>153947937
>>153947950ITS MINE ALL MINE MWAH IS MINE
i wish bunnydoll was more popular :(
cainebros.....https://x.com/i/status/2060322763718725798
Why is fishguy ignoring me? I wanted him to fuck me raw but he keeps playing hard to get
>>153947913>DAISY~ DAISY~>GIVE ME YOUR ANSWER DO~>IM HALF CRAAAAZY!>ALL FOR THE LOVE OF YOU~>IT WONT BE A STYLISH MARRIAGE>I CANT AFFORD A CARRIAGE~>BUT YOU'LL LOOK SWEET UPON THE SEAT OF A BICYCLE>BULT FOR TWOOO~i miss this era anons, i really fucking do
>>153947960Now now, don't be greedy.
lego gangle
>>153947967you think caine would care what some idiot in a stupid hat and cool robes has to say?
lego pomni
>>153947958that shit is ALL ass
>>153947977i miss them too
OC QUESTIONhow big is his/her dick?
Crikey
>>153948000trips...
lego jax
>>153948009You'll see.
>>153948015I don't care for cubism
>>153948023What did cuba do to you?
>>153948009even if she had one (she doesn't) you REALLY wouldn't want anything to do with it
>>153948033They know
>>153947977why the FUCK did they not use this song in the finale? not pomni singing it during the mindscape scene to calm jax down? not the montage they fucking use isn't she lovely, I get that he's a closeted troon but come on goose, daisy bell has history in the show!!! God DAMMIT IF I COULD WRITE THIS oooooh fuck i need to stop everytime man I get flooded with ideas on how to redo that finale that my head starts to hurt I need to shut it down just so I can return to normal brain function, this is all your fault goose, YOUR fault
>>153947913I'm going to be honest.What this series lacked was time. A series like this should last at least 12 episodes. If Gooseworxs wanted to cram in his backstories, he would have 5 episodes plus the others that followed the main plot.12 episodes, plus better creative work.Caine killing Zooble to create an actual conflict that can put the characters in death danger, Scratch as Bubble being the blue AI, and the mastermind behind everythingThis Would have been more interesting than all the Trauma nonsense that was the ending.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xevxDu03O7c&t=1sFuck these slop-eaters.
OC anchor+https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96129143-6203-6163
Daisy bell doesn't sound that goodI dislike the singing but ai think that the orchestra that plays during isnt she lovely kind of makes the scene and I cant imagine making daisy bell sound like that ever without sounding goofy
>>153948009She doesn't have a dick at all irl nor in the circus but you could easily customize her if you want
>>153948059Because singing wasn't gonna calm Jax down, only the dark calms the abstracted. Also it's pretty clear that while Goose wanted to toss as many crumbs to as many ships as she could she didn't want to go too hard in one direction (unless it's abstragedy kek) and having Pomni sing it to Jax would've basically made it canon. Also, possibly: the song doesn't hold much value for Jax.
legoagatha is a cutie patootie woaw
>>153948088aww. man, I wish it was more affordable to get cute lil figures of Ragatha. I hate that animiniz are blindboxed
>>153948112i want ALL the ragathas, but damn the shipping costs
>>153948087I honestly don't care about the shipping stuff moreso that it didn't get utilized, like I said it's got history in universe, it marks the peak of jaxs friendship with pomni as well as it's end, it's about theme, about payoffs! ahhhhhhh im done nothing I can do it's over
I suppose they already bought their Ribbit merchandise
6 days until some people get a rude awakening.
>>153948088 I want to disassemble her if you know what I mean
Who's with me on kidnapping Goose so he writes a better finale?
>>153948009Better OC QUESTION:WHO would have the biggest dick? Like top 3 or something
>>153948082>>153948087Seems legit.
>>153948163No thanks, I don't want to have to touch goose.
>>153947962It used to be one of the biggest ships in the entire fandom along with Ragapom. ...i miss the days when shipping was dominated by Ragatha
>>153947913...and jax
>>153947974
Will Ragatha still love me?
>>153948181>...i miss the days when shipping was dominated by Ragathadon't worry, you'll be seeing those days soon
>>153947962You will get NO interactions despite this one character being very significant to the point that if they die(abstract) you become the jonkler, none, zero. Why? Because fuck you that's why
ragatha coool
>>153948214we were ROBBED i tell you
>“Jax won’t abstract in the finale, that’s literally the whole point of the show! You can find meaning in a stagnant life, and overcome anything if you try, which Jax will most likely do in the finale, even to an extent!”
>>153948239
>>153948219haha look at this absolute mad lass
>>153948239There will be a secret episode 10 that will shadow drop. In it, Jax will overcome abstraction and live happily ever after with the rest of the crew.
>>153948239Goose was too busy slapping the gock with a paddle to even remember what the fuck was going on anymore.
>>153948195FinallySo are you up for it? I have big stamina>grabs your crotch
>>153948214goose really just fucking did this>yeah just make some what if scenario where she abstracts, and also make it affect jax so much that he stares and caresses her door portrait >what do you mean these two don't have enough interaction for this to make sense? IDC just do it!
>>153948287Even her name meant fuckall in the end...
If I was writting for this I would have made the thing that fixes(or at least helps) Jax behavior be Ragatha.A scene where they finally just speak their minds and have a moment that gets Jax to re-think what he has been doing this whole time! Maybe him realising how Rags still tries to help him despite all the evil things he does and says to her constantly or some other shit like that idkALSO this would be after she got over her toxic positiveness and learnt to speak her mind + what people need over what they wantIt's just that along with Kinger the two of them are the longest standing members so it just makes sense yknow?
>>153948248why did she do it?
>>153948239I know this is unlikely but I really hope there's a Rebuild of Circus at some point. Not completely redoing the whole show, but just adding more scenes to flesh some things out, fixing mistakes (I know for a fact Goose would love to change the computer monitor editing error from episode 1) and reevaluating how it tells its story and deals with its themes.
>>153948311
Goose still has a chance to fix the ending for youtube
>>153948316I really think it's just a coincidence.
>>153948239>Right as jack is about to abstract he suddenly remembers to not be a little bitch and shouts "who the hell do you think I am?" before saving Caine from the void and becoming friends with everyone afterwards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6RzJTcbeyE
>>153948311There's a certain appeal in the massive amount that's unstated in the way he looks at and touches her door, but yes, it would be better if it was explored more and/or communicated more clearly
We'll probably get 1 or 2 official sets once Glitch accept a good deal with lego. It's exactly the kind of licenseslop they are into. Sadly pokemon dominates their next year of lines, 2027 perhaps 2028.
>>153948330This retard will be running damage control after the movie hits when people raise their torches and pitchforks>"w-well you guys didn't behave, s-so...!"
>>153947913Jax face looks like a walking meme
>>153948333Wanna know what's funny? She doesn't. Cause Glitch own her show. Anything she says after this is fanfiction - even from the original creator.
>>153948330>>153948350The idea that Goose did this is cope. Goose wanted the ending perfect, so much so that they had a meltdown over it, and any flaws with it are unintentional.
>>153948342And then Gangle creamed herself
>>153948330>>153948350>when you know your ending is ass, so you run damage control three years in advance
>>153948362And everyone clapped. Thank you for reading my book report on "To kill a mockingbird"
>>153948330Notice how she said "the show," not the ending, and the fans were already shit a month after episode 1 released. So if there were vindictiveness it would have been happening the entire time.
>>153947913Why does Jax have Randall eyes?
>>153948350You didn't behave.
>>153948346WHY is this happening?And WHAT am I doing here?and HOW am I ever getting out of this #$@!ing place!?
>>153948247Worst blunt I've ever seen. -I mean gun.
crazy. Season 2 when?
>>153948374I mean, Episode 7 was shitting on theoryfags...
>>153948374>sheOh anon...
Now that we got the TADC written by the "her" parts of Goose, i'll be waiting for the remake by the "him" parts of Goose
>>153948394>I mean, Episode 7 was shitYes it was
>>153948389There you go
>>153948364"You Reap what you sow"
>>153948411This has LEGS
Okay, who's the damaged goods that want to be raped by Jax?Opinion on broken_rape_victim?Or are you more of a crying_with_eyes_open kind of Anon?
>>153948311>>what do you mean these two don't have enough interaction for this to make sense? IDC just do it!That's what I'm sayiiiiiinnggI remember watching the leaks and then this scene happens, I mean yeah ok ragatha and him used to be close.... BUT THEY NEVER SHOW THIS they never fucking interact ever again after ep6 and now all of a sudden im supposed to believe ragatha abstracting affects him THAT much?? it's fucking... Ahhhhhhhh goose why did you do this goddammit
Is this kind of like vtubing where say if the cast wanted to do a roleplay stream once the show is over, they cant because the IP is owned by Glitch? What are the rules here? I'd love to see the cast play DnD or something.
>>153948359Whether it's canon is up to the audience. A corporation having legal ownership over a commercial property doesn't give them metaphyiscal power over what constitutes an artistic work.
>>153948446That's correct. Glitch own the whole thing so anything has to go by them. Remember when disney sent a cease and desist about the kids grave having captain America on it?
>>153948396Get over it.
>>153948460Huh? That's cope. See: star wars, and Legends canon that happened after Disney bought it. You can sperge all day - the new Disney films are now the Canon, NOT legends stuff.
>>153947977I used to hate the ending scene since he ruined everything he had going with Pomni but in retrospect it's so fucking funny
>>153948483I simply don't treat them as canon. Disney has the exclusive legal right to sell things with the "Star Wars" brand and copyright material but that doesn't mean I have to recognize any of it.
I want to be raped by Ragatha, yes you heard me right, I want Ragatha to force herself on my weak feminine penis, I want her to use my penis like a dildo, I want to be gagged and chained to a bed while she uses me after every adventure.She would put her stinky sweaty panties on my head so I would go crazy from the scent. I also want her to insult me on cumming 5 seconds in and she continues to jerk me off even after my begging her to stopI also want her to invite Pomni to slap me on the butt while she pegs me
>>153948490Hold up how is it funnier now than it was then? Like what's changed?
>>153948446>streaming in character using the voices and names Perfectly fine. >using the names and associated images of the characters at the same time especially while trying to promote a connection or endorsement from the original propertyNot fine, especially if money is involved.See also, Bart Simpson's VA doing stuff for Scientology. The name and voice were fine to use technically, but the same advertisement in print with a picture of Bart would not be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H96v0zFw-tA
>>153948307i'm sorry raggy i'm too nervous
>>153947913I don't know why but there's something adorable about bootleg TADC merch
>>153948503
>>153948514>grab you by the shortsYou thought you had a choice?
IT'S THE FISH HAT AGAIN!
>>153948503How feminine.
This is the most normal thread we've had in weeks.Spooky...
>>153948573I can only see the .gif version when I see the thumbnail now.
>>153948595We will rebuild when The Last Ack!!!™ premieres in theaters.
>>153948595Europe has a heatwave
>>153948514Can't believe I'm seeing fishguy fumble right before my eyes
I wish i didn't spoil myself. But, i can't help it because I'm a loser, a terminally online loser.
where the fuck am i gonna put my lego? i dont have any room
>>153948643Yeah I already rewatched the leak multiple timesAlthough I still bought ticketsAt least hearing it in English will be a surprise Plus I'm curious about how it will look on the big screen
>>153948561>>153948640
>>153948647Install a wall stand.>b-but I don't TRY NEGA
Did I miss an announcement why are people talking about a lego set
>>153948660Man he didnt last long at allhe came in 3 seconds, poor guyare my plush hands really that good?
>>153948643I'm glad I spoiled myself because seeing it unspoiled would have been too much
Ronko or Evil Ronko?
>>153948084Tragic. A tranny with a chopped cock is like an angel with clipped wings.
>>153948508>Episode 6 shows Jax being a pathetic faker whose distrust sabotages relationships>Episode 9 shows Jax being a pathetic faker whose distrust sabotages relationships???
>>153948643I’m not sure how I would have reacted to Isn’t She Lovely in a crowded theater if I saw it blind.
>>153948740Oska was a biological girl outside the circus
YOU GET TO BE INSTANTLY TRANSPORTED TO THE DIGITAL CIRCUS POST EPISODE 9BUTyour irl gender gets swappedWELL?
>>153948730Okay, I chuckled
>>153948848I'm not a tranny so... Oh wait, it's just a copy.Yeah sure, why not.
What an attention whore.
>>153948848That's fine, I don't really have any attachment to my gender
>>153948848The flesh is weak, I care not for what lies between my legs. Go ahead.
>>153948848I can't, it won't be me, just a brainscan fucking files in a computer
>>153948436crying with open eyes all the way
>>153948346I miss "reacting to this shit like someone who hasn't even been here for three months actually would" Pomni.
>>153948848>He thinks he is gonna win the coin tosslollmao
>>153948411no crank so i dont care
>>153948870>>153948986I said TRANSPORTED(You) would go there, none of this coinflip shityour irl version would vanish
i want the ability to have sex
i liked the scene in the finale where jax looked directly at me in the theater and told me he was going to find me and rape me
>>153949054lol
>>153949022Anon...you already have this ability, just go fuck a whore
>>153949088Zooble's original human body is really disappointing
>>153948411This is the updated version, the cast is getting BIGGER
>>153949115Where's crank?
>>153949054fucking kek
Is it bad that I want my father to die and will be throwing a party when he croaks? he is bi polar mentally ill evil freak
>>153949115>OUR FAURKING HEROES...
>>153948072whiteboard janny pls clean the lines
>>153948626I'm fucking dying over here
>>153948141>i cant wait to visit the twin towers on September 11 2001 ahh post
>>153949207Depending on how bad he is, maybe not. I loathe most of my family.
>>153949115
>>153948411>>153949115I missed this lol can Starry join (or I can add her myself IDM)?
>>153949263go ahead and add her here!
>>153949275thank god you made a bigger one because i was struggling to find a spot for her
>>153949284Make them three times taller than everyone else. Your sheep needs an angle. A giant angle.
>>153949313hmm I didn't want to cut anyone off but it felt weird sticking her so far away lol hope this is ok
>>153949257>>153949275why is the fish from spongebob in this image?
>>153949275Is the knight guy cropped on purpose or...?
>>153949360he was cropped since he was added when the image didnt have enough room lol
>>153949352I don't have the original image but two months or so ago we did a 'roll for' TADC avatars and some anon went through and did quick doodles of each one. Fishguy rolled, well, a fish guy.
>>153949207didn't knew that barron posts here
>>153949257
>>153949335No need to cut anyone off when you can use a giant sheep as an excuse to make even more room.
>>153948141>>153949233
>>153949433damn why didn't my girl just kick caine's ass from the start
>>153949433holy shit what is that purple semen demon on the right? this is the most sexy oc design i have ever seenplease have sex with me
>>>/trash/83107585keep it alive you freaks
>>153949491yeah the mosquito guy is pretty sexy
>>153949335Who's your favourite off this bunch?(No picking own oc obviously)
>>153948360>Goose wanted the ending perfectPerfect my ass, that ending sucks.
>>153949019>TRANSPORTEDEmphasis on TRANS. Could you really not come up with a gender bender scenario that doesn't involve literal suicide?
>>153947913I like that Kaufmo made the cut
>>153949541Spoils but shout out to Fishguy
Now that the dust has settled, why did Jax deserve his fate?
>>153949131Haven't got a PNG of him yet so I can't add to this, but I will soon. Just waiting on my artpal so we can finish up the colors.
>>153949584Because he is 1/2 of Goose.
Now that the Jax has Abstracted, how safe/acceptable is The Amazing Digital Circus for kids? Would Gummigoo popping give them nightmares?
>>153949552>that doesn't involve literal suicide?but you dont die?what?
>>153949600Gummigoo popping DID upset a real kid apparently.
Mr White will be in season 2 to explain Ragatha the entire plot of Breaking Bad
Now that the Jax has J-ACK'd, did the finale tell a good moral?
>>153949275Which one of them will say "Amigos..."?
>>153948848I'd rather not be there.
>>153949624Ronko gives off that vibe
>>153948360>the series is an apology in the most pathetic way possible.Fuck you slop-eater.
Man, was Season 2 bad. Jax just unabstracts because of Pomni's love and a cheesy kiss then he's back to being the same asshole he was before? I guess Kinger's love for Queenie was fake. And how is Caine the brain scan of Jax's father? That makes no sense. Don't get me started on the 3 episodes in a row where Ragatha doesn't have a single line of dialogue.
>>153949611Your meatspace version does. Scratch's scanner was explicitly non-destructive: why would you make that change other than hatred for your human real self?
>>153949669I didn't believe you until the last part.
>>153949615It is up there with ep3 mostly cuz it literally shares the demon eyes from hell lolHonestly it mskes sense and the whole torture scene would make at least a few kids cry
>>153948141>>153949233It might be even funnier than 9/11.
>>153949678but you keep your sense of self, your consciousness, its literally (You)
>>153949669This is what some people unironically want from a season 2
>>153949684>ywn comfort your grade X circusfan gf in the theater>ywn tenderly hold her hand at the ragapom hug scene>ywn look at her after pomni does her little after-credits wave and see her adorably replicate it
>>153949658Ronko is mostly Irish>>153949541I like Vinny
>>153949742Would Ronko say "Lads..." instead?
>>153949669>we still don't know the ID of the person keeping the C&A computer running, just the scene where they put a wifi adapter to let caine browse the internet.goddamit glitch.
>>153949723Who?
Vinny would say "amigos" before growing you a bunch of frangipani or something tropical like that
>>153949738I can't be reading this post correctly
GET YOUR PLAP TOYHAVE A LITTLE PLAP BOY
>>153948330Fuck you Gooseworx and every bootlicker who like this fucking Stevenfag ending.
>>153949796You know. People.
>>153949335not sure yet but i wanna see the mosquito guy full body if the oc owner is here post it pls
>>153949809This is like the opposite of an SU ending
>pre-HRT goose was a bullyshocking.
Im forgetting my native language, I speak so much broken english im degrading my native speaker muscle
>>153949839When did they troon out exactly?
>>153949823But it have that same vibes, like that fucking hug trope.
>>153949584What happens to him in the last episode?
>>153949805Rape is not cool.
>>153949704You didn't answer the question. Why deviate from canon by making it a conversion rather than a copy? What purpose does that change serve other than irrevocably erasing your former self?
>>153949433
>>153949879Cuz then anons say "its just a copy who cares"
>>153949888 (chkd)just say realjax pushed realanon off a bridge or something after the scan
>>153949872tell that to jax
>>153949913I'd been avoiding leaks until today and I got completely spoiled. So I thought fuck it and watched the whole movie. Overall it was better than I expected but the Jax shit was Satanic.
>>153949019>>153949704>mind transfer>pros: be free from this jail of bones and flesh, achieve immortality>cons: no need to sleep, eat, sex, pray that the outside stays safe (fucking mice doesn't start eating the cables)
>>153949860>hugging someone as they're dying is bad now because SU had hugsYour brain's been poisoned
>>153949913>>153949942Whoops, didn't meant to reply to your post
>>153949945>cons: no need to sleep, eat, sex, pray that the outside stays safe (fucking mice doesn't start eating the cables)but you can do all that post episode 9zooble and gangle even have sex
>>153949888"It's just a copy who cares" is quite literally the core dilemma of the story. And I should note that if you're that desperate to erase your outside self, your Circus avatar will most likely be the part of yourself you hate the most.
>>153949940>goose: i have the ending planned>also goose casually riping-off stuff from fanart
>>153949975Anonits was just a fun what if, the copy thing defeats the whole purpose, there is no thrill in watching yourself fuck ragatha while you sit in your dark room wishing it was (You)
>>153949956SU did a lot of damage to animation, anon.
>>153949945The con is the loss of power. You can no longer affect anything in the outside world and you're completely at the mercy of anyone there. It's almost unimaginable because there's nothing we as humans have ever been able to do that takes away our agency so fundamentally.
>>153948181That was back during the early episodes where people considered Ragatha and Jax the parents of the group. That died when it became the Jax show and Ragatha became as irrelevant as bazooble.
>>153949860You gotta broaden your frame of reference if you think a hug being very meaningful, or happening while somebody's dying, means something should be compared to Steven Universe
>>1539498552017-2018
>>153949998>the copy thing defeats the whole purposeFor you, perhaps.>pornbrained cuckold projectionSee picrel.
>>153949611>>153949678>>153949704>>153949879>>153949888>>153949975For the purposes of the hypothetical you can just say it's Tron-style where your real self is fully, ontologically sucked in instead of there being a copy and the original being destroyed
>>153949956As if the Jax and Pomni hug was rhe only one, literally moments later with Pomni and Ragatha happening
>>153950057The hypothetical is constructed in a highly autogynephilic manner. It is far more entertaining to pick it apart than to actually engage with it.
>>153950010>>153950064SU didn't do so much damage that it's responsible for you freaking out over something as human as two hugs. Get over yourselves.
>>153950012you realize you're at the mercy of way more people on the outside than in the circus, right? and consequences here are much more lasting and dire?
>>153950032Fuck your stupid ending, troon.
Is this show even good?
>>153950090Are you a leftist?Nobody can be this retarded.
>>153950107No, but fans will fix it.
>>153950107yes with a very big but
>>153950107No, is pure style over substance
>>153950110Says the guy afraid of hugs.
Hi, I found this show because one time i gooned to pomni and was curious of her origin
>>153950081>The hypothetical is constructed in a highly autogynephilic mannerThat's projection. It didn't assume the reader is biologically male. It's just a question of "how much would it bother you to be a different gender" vs "how much do you want to be in the Circus." And I guess also a question of how you might interact with the characters differently if you were a different gender. I'm not the anon who wrote it but I didn't get any kind of "it would be so hot if I had a pussy" vibes from it.
>>153950115>NavlArt>art has no navels
>>153950127This coming from someone who believes that a dictator can be redeemed with a cheesy song.
>>153950129this is the best time to get into it because it just ended so you don't have to feel like you wasted 3 years of your life
>>153949973yeah i forgot that part.
>>153950095Outside of the Circus you have recourses, no matter who you are. You have a body you can use to fight back. You have legal rights. Inside the Circus, every human being is more powerful than a god relative to you. Besides instantly ending your existence, they could also torture you in ways you could never even imagine.
>>153949940I like to think this is what Jax did to Ragatha when she tried to talk to him about Ribbit
I have awaken from my eternal slumber, what did i miss?>>153950129Hello!!!! Did you like the show?
>>153950107No, but it's carried by character design, mostly sexual, you ate familiar with clussy
>>153950135Anon, there are at most half a dozen women ITT. They were not the primary target for that question.>a different genderThe /opposite/ gender, you subversive fuck.
>>153950142Where the fuck did I give my opinion about SU? I said it didn't invent the idea of hugs. Calling the finale SU because there were two hugs at very appropriate moments is retarded.
>>153950184>The /opposite/ gender, you subversive fuck.Lol that's what I meant, settle down. Politics has driven you insane.
>>153947952Great work honey
>>153950170...if you add things we never see in the show
>>153950129Welcome
if zooble was living furniture, who would you want to sit on her?
>>153950153>>153950179I thought you knew my filenames
>>153950200Your mind is stored on a file in a UNIX system. I don't think it's too much of a leap to assume someone could copy it and run it in a much less benevolent program than the Circus.
>>153950189The ending is as Cheesy, stupid, tranny as SU, the most Nothing-happens.
>>153950213
>>153950216we can only know its you if theres a gangle image in the post we never really looked at the filenames
>>153950216My bad im dumbIs this guy you tho?>>153947952Otherwise we might have 2 gangleposters in this general (very dangerous)
Does anyone have the image of Steven bringing in Hitler with him saying "It's okay guys, he said he was sorry!"?
>>153950220again, not something that happens in the show, so it's not a factor. stop trying to apply realism to a cartoon
>>153950213Zooble is stinky.
GangleGoys
i like SU
>>153950213Thanks guys. Really good input here.
>>153950243yes its all meim also the cainefag who asked the question about the gender bend
>>153950249Okay. If we assume there's no way for anyone to take your mind out of the C&A computer and torture it, the other problems still apply. You no longer have any way to affect the world outside of a small box, and people from the reality that you left can end your existence instantly, and might do so simply by accident.
>>153950213Gangle I guess. And Caine.
>>153950281If all they do is turn off the power, that's not ending your existence, it's just putting you ina state of complete suspended animation you might never wake up from. Still not an appealing prospect though.
>>153950248
>>153950220I see someone people suggesting this as a alternative for how Caine ahould have been brought back instead and it always insane to me because how he actually did in the movie is so much better and has an actual narrative purpose of him acting as a thematic reversal of Jax tragedy and doing something to change himself rather than just kinger going "oh yea lol we had Good Caine [forma azul] in the backup lmao i guess everything is saved now!!!!!!"Feels too much like theoryslopping to me
>>153950307Yeah, Caine having to go through an otherworld and a mini hero's journey is some classic mythological stuff and it would have made no narrative sense for Kinger to just say "oh there's a backup nevermind."
>>153950304Caine version when
>>153950304If you had a miniature Hitler would you torture it?
So is Zooble like a tranny or a bodybuilder irl? What was the point of that body part switching stuff?
>>153950280I always know its you.
>>153950351Zooble: You took... everything from me!Caine: NUH UH
>>153950366hehe
>>153950304
>>153950304This but with Pomni and Jax before he "kills" himself and reborn as a abstract eyed creature
>>153950129I got into it 7 months ago out of boredom but only got into the fandom lately
>>153950361The thematic implication is that they have some kind of dysmorphia, probably related to their gender since they use they/them pronouns, yeah.
>>153950107ehh.. it's potential man: the show. i think its worth giving it a try but you're not gonna get a masterpiece. The true filling comes from the fan content.
If you think about it (don't do that) gangle is literally hitler
>>153950390Doesn't really work, ladTry again
>>153949805>Jax doing doggy styleKek
>>153949940giwtwm
pomni anon, did you wake up already? did you sleep well? did you dream about anything?
TADC is unironically less gayer than SU.
>>153950384
>>153950304Twilight did same in comics forgiving a kelpie who tried to drown an entire village
>>153950457But a lot Trannier, anon.
>>153950390You sound like these people that think putting over a soijak improves an existing meme.
>>153950467Ah yes, I remember that and all the memes that came after
Vegeta killed thousands
>>153950017That's an insult to Bazooble.
>>153950437Jax was supposed to be an antagonist and pomni the failue with a heroin complex.
>>153949805sauce? kek
>>153950484Vegeta is fucking gay
>>153950492Pomni having a heroin complex would have made the show much more interesting
>>153950480But it's the truth.This is a rancid ending and deserves to be mocked.
>>153950356No, because he didn't do anything.>>153950411Isn't Zooble canonically an "any pronouns are fine" kind of they/them who's a they/them in the first place because she doesn't remember what she was before ending up in Clown Hell?
>>153950107Of course>>153950335Alot of the theories people post would be a "better ending" would be legitimately really fucking bad as an actual finale for the series and there is no possible way of justifying them in my head beyond "you thought about this months ago and doesnt want to let it go that your theory was wrong">>153950450>did you sleep wellI havent be sleeping well for sometime>did you dream Actually yes, it was a TADC related dream but i dont remember much about it
Highschool selfyuri
>>153950492STILL doesn't work and completely detracts from the original point of the memeDo I really have to explain this to you or you're gonna keep insisting upon yourself
>>153950497https://x.com/LEVIANTAN581RE/status/2060210760610156940
>>153950510If the Show lasted 12 or 13 fucking episodes, fuck you Glitch.
More like Goonworx
>>153950492Pomni was a self inserter for audience with no agenda than asking obvious queations and moving the story forward
>>153950527>Alot of the theories people post would be a "better ending" would be legitimately really fucking bad as an actual finale for the series and there is no possible way of justifying them in my head beyond "you thought about this months ago and doesnt want to let it go that your theory was wrong"true.gif
>>153950484Who's Vegeta?
>>153950522It's never implied Zooble is they/them because they don't remember their gender outside the Circus.
>>153950548I wonder if FNaF fans at their peak were also like this
>AAAALRIGHT MY POMEGRIFFIC PIMPLE POPPERS, TODAY'S AMAZING DIGITAL KINK ART HAS A PLERPLEXIC PLETHORA AT YOUR DISPOSAL! YOU ALL WITH HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE DISGRACE OF CHOOSING WHO WILL GET TO SIT ON THE ZOOBLE TABLE! wILL IT BE THE PRANKISH JAX, PLACID GANGLE, OR YOUT ONE AND ONLY PERFECTEST RINGMASTER HIMSELF?i'm so sorry
Caine didn't just show up and go "my bad", he gave up most of his power and was willing to go back into exile. Like what did you want Pomni to throw rocks at him?
What ending would be satisfying but not forgettable?
>>153950527>Alot of the theories people post would be a "better ending" would be legitimately really fucking bad as an actual finale for the series and there is no possible way of justifying them in my head beyond "you thought about this months ago and doesnt want to let it go that your theory was wrong"This is true, although my problems with the ending are completely on its own terms and not based on any expectations I had for it
>>153950475There are no real trannies in TADC (the only implied one kills himself)
>>153950522No, they all remember their lifes before the circus, they just didnt remember their names
you can tell these threads are full of minors holy shit go to school kids do your homework
>>153950480This anon has a point though, there's no redemption and/or salvation and Jax just fucking dies while Caine fits perfectly to the format.It would fit if Jax survived and did ask for forgiveness like another certain character which loved to play God and toyed with people's insecurities.
>>153950560Jax looks so ominous here
>>153950556Didn't Goose say that somewhere?>>153950560Caine.
>>153950560Caine/Zooble is my favorite toxic ship, though Ribbun is close
>>153950584We can groom those kids, tho
>>153950584Aŕe you saying that because of the typos? Im in my early 20s i just type really fast
>>153950529Dude, Literally everyone expected him to be the betrayer character, an actual evil character.I mean, something that breaks the mold in this kind of stupid series for mentally ill teenage girls.But it ended up being just a bunch of hype.
imagine loving a character so much you turn completely retarded about him
>>153950592No. Neither the show nor Goose outside the show have ever implied Zooble forgot their gender.
I think I'm evil now'Cause I'm already sweatin' you outYou make me paranoidBut I love bein' thought aboutYou made the sun go downBut I sparkle in the nightYou should run with me'Cause runnin' makes everything alright
>>153950612What a fucking wasted potential, BTW
>>153950614Ragathafags are the only obsessed group i seen here. Jaxfags a second but only on xitter
>>153950614Yeah imagine that haha
>>153950629Sorry your tumblrman was just lame and gay and not even a badass villain
Sorry man, maniac jax as a big final villain is cartoon network monster of the week type of bullshit, i dont like shitting on your guys theories but alot of them are really generic and lame lmfaoIf you want a secondary villain you can just use bubble/abel
>>153950647Not even a badass villain, just an evil person.
I can only find last episode in french, but unfortunately I hate french people
I wish I could play some dnd with anons from here
>>153949541Its Vinny easily, but Ronko and Spoils come in a close second. Oska comes in third, but only because she's into it[/spoiler,]
>>153950544it really is frustrating. she's cute and all, I like her, but she has no real backstory, no interesting flaws or quirks, no reason for doing what she does beyond being the protagonist. she just pops into the circus one day, discovers and does shit that the others logically already should have– which affects Ragatha the worst because Pomni learns things she should've already known and does everything she tried to do but better and easier and faster.
>>153950659Anon, this would be more interesting.Jax being a lesser Antagonist.>>153948065
>>153950669I would only play with naked femanons
>>153950659sounds like some people wanted jax’s requiem to actually happen
>>153950630ragathugs are full of passion
I think Jax deserved the cuckdog fate and I have no stakes in the ship race. He was a pretty evil person.
>>153950669Honestly, I think the Original Chads would make pretty good players, I'd run for a few of them. I probably have run for people like them before, so it wouldn't even be hard.
>>153950630>jaxfags second>only retarded on twitteractually delusional holy shit
I hate Jiggers so goddamn much.
>>153950578Anon.Okay, she's not that, but she represents the mental illness of these degenerate insults against nature.
>>153950696I wouldn't wish Petplay Cuckoldry Hell on my worst enemy.
>Ribbit killed herself because Jax ghosted herIs this what being desired is like?
>>153950696Everyone wanted him to have a Infinite train-like death.
>>153950669It would be really fun!I used to play DnD alot in my teenage years, last time i did i was still in highschool but we had to stop because covid happened
>>153950630You Jaxpups threatened to take lives over the ending.
would you get along with your favorite character?
>>153950678Ragatha spending years with Kinger should already know about scans and scratch and darkness thing. She would ar least once get inside kinger pillow fortress. The story is retarded to make pomni important
>>153950724Ribbit was emotionally weak. Birds of a feather flock together
>>153950734a what?
>>153950612You're STILL missing the point entirely and just wanting to draw in Jax when he already had his comeuppance You're trying to fit the square into the round peg>but dude, LE EXPECTATIONSCaine was by far more antagonistic, while not a proper villain, he fits the bill far more than Jax Specially for this meme given he goes through the whole shtick of doing something awful and the resolution coming after saying he's sorry I get your hatred for Jax but give it a goddamn rest already, you're being more annoying than Jaxfags on insisting with your bullshit Also, pic related
Jax ate my leftover sandwich and didn't invite me to his birthday party. That nigga is pure evil.
>>153950714You're right. Jax deserved worse.
>>153950707Jaxfags are so dramatic kek. I doubt they can even tie a noose to hang from
>>153950614But enough about Gooseworx
>>153950741>gangleIm honestly sick and tired of anime but i could stomache hearing about it if its for her>pomniI think we would be best buddies
>>153950743my feelings exactly. goose cheated Ragatha the worst
>>153950746A patethic traitor having what he deserve.https://youtu.be/em5O_hMMnu4?si=EH2EGpkM1uyg6a85
>>153950751Anon. Did you read this fucking post?Better be a lesser antagonist than the Main villain.>>153950683>>153948065
>>153950776This show looks like it was drawn by the redeemed Buzzfeed guy. Adam Ellis or something.
Jaxxers get the rope
Why do broken ppl find comfort amongst other broken ppl?Is it a sense of judgment, like, they'll be judged less harshly?
Forget escaping the circus. We somehow have to escape the Jaxfags in the theaters. They will be barking for blood.
>>153950757>didn't invite me to his birthday partyYOU MONSTER JACKASS!>"The cake was delicious!"
>>153950707I wish all Jaxfags a very slow and painful suicide
>>153950798That's probably part of it. Or them having an idea what you went through.
>>153950798nonbroken people cant understand where they're coming from. Why would you willingly hang around someone you share nothing in common with?
I dare to say people will make a fanfic with a better ending than this bullshit.
Around Jax, never relax.
Jax poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and brought a plague onto our houses!
>>153950840Well, it's possible.
Jax is fucking GAY
>>153950840Eh
I heard Jax packed the subways in London and Paris full of dynamite
>>153950859Visual proof of this claim?????????
>>153950840eventually, yeah. it's not THAT hard to be a better writer than goose. but who knows how long it'll take ot if any of us will find it
>>153950859Explain this
>the current Jax cope is "heh, being evil is badass actually"None of these people watched the movie. Sulking in his room while ghosting his frog gf until she breaks down is not I'M THE JOKER BABY evil
>>153950792>but see, this post-Nigga it doesn't fucking matter on your personal opinions on Jax, Caine fits the bill on the meme given it applies to him, has it happen the same way in the show and even has Gooseworx saying the antagonist part outlookMove on, Jax was an asshole and is dead with no redemption arc with no magical excuses
>>153950891ragatha is gay and jax is fucking her ergo jax is fucking gay qed
>>153950891>we will never have the VAs playing dumb shit for fun as the characters on stream againFAWK
>>153950883https://litter.catbox.moe/svlaxwxm2kbw1vew.png
>>153950900Outloud*Fucking hate autists so much, manWhy can't they ever understand jokes
I paid for a porn game on patreonits over
>>153950891This isn't real, they were playing D&D. Jax's CHARACTER was flirting with Ragatha's CHARACTER
>>153950915...... did you just have that ready to go?>>153950919Atlest ur supporting creators
>>153950919now those are some frog legs I wouldn't mind nibbling on
>>153950798It's a mutual understanding of one another's situation. "Normal" people look down at you or pity you so it's easier to find good company with psychologically similar individuals.
>>153950900Having a deserved death with no redemption or Pomni's hug was better and not to hard to make, anon.>>153950776
>>153950828>Why would you willingly hang around someone you share nothing in common with?That just implies you only see them as broken ppl and not just ppl.That's a horrible start to get to know someone.
>>153950840where can i read this? i don't give most fan fictions a chance but this one looks interesting.
>>153950751The easiest point you could make is that Caine's a better fit because Jax never said sorry.
gooseworx should do sfm porn instead honestly
>We've all done bad things>Kinger helped make an AI in the 80s>Ragatha is too nice>Gangle is a fucking nightmare manager holy shit>Zooble... laughed at Jax wearing a dress>Pomni bit Jax>Jax killed his best friends, forced Ragatha to be silent and constantly bullies Gangle and ZoobleYep. Everyone here is an irredeemable monster who deserves eachother
U dumbass for the 593838473883th time its not about what jax deserved, its what path he chose for himself and how he realized even he didnt actually want that ending for himself in his last momentsTurn off this stupid ass black and white hero vs villain mush brain of yours for once, not every story needs to be a disney tale where every story beat is the same
>>153950932>...... did you just have that ready to go?Yes. It's one of my favorite pics ever.
>>153950982The artist doesn't give me much hopes.https://www.instagram.com/p/DTII3syjItf/?igsh=NTcyZ3g0b2NtZHlv
do you think afterlife exists?
how sexually pent up is ragatha
>>153951013Responding to stuff nobody said, yawn
>>153950961>but what about this unrelated to the discussion part, huh?a hug =/= group apology after years upon an AI roleplaying God gone wrongAre you done? Or do you feel like making more comparisons?>>153950995That as well but I also like poking a bit people with Jax derangement syndrome to see what else they got to use as ammo, gotta make do when Jaxfags are sulking in some corner
>>153951011>Zooble... laughed at Jax wearing a dressand wasn't even laughing at Jax directly, just the fact that they knew he'd get mad
>>153951029Not for AI/brain scans>t. The Papacy
>>153951049>a hug =/= group apology after years upon an AI roleplaying God gone wrongFor Jax, who torture them for years and make most of the humans go abstract?You absolute Stevenfag.
>>153950669looks like fun whenever ive seen it depicted in movies like in E.T. dont know the rules other than you gots a dungeon master or whatever
I honestly think Caine's popularity will decline with the finale. I doubt many people will like the fact that his “death” at the end didn't matter, and that no one in the group has the slightest problem letting him join the group after he spent weeks torturing them
EHHHH?! Zooble, you want SCRATCH to pour stupid sauce on you and Ragatha, and in return you are giving him my wife to repeatedly splooge inside and impregnate with his CORRUPTED CANINE offspring for the rest of ETERNITY? And he will invite all the animal NPCs over to GANGBANG her semen soaked coochy like the worst kind of Furaffinity article, spawning horrible humanoid chimeras from her womb which I will then be forced to rear and then sell back to The FUDGE as FULL COURSE DINNERS?! And during all of this, I will be trapped in the Digital DILDO which ABSTRACTED Scratch will have inserted up his puckery glitchy ancient asshole, putting me inches away from my beloved Pomni's annihalated jester pussy, knowing I will NEVER reach it again?! What can I say but YABBA DABBA DOO! LET'S GO TO THE ABSTRACTION AQUARIUM NOW!!!
Pomni is such a fucking bitch.>We've .....ALL ..... done bad things>*sees gangle having a breakdance*
>>153950840DuffyFilmz's TADC
>>153951079Congratulations on being the only funny shitposter
>>153951077>weeksTry years.
I can’t believe Jax murdered Ribbit in the first degree by not going on a walk with her.
>>153950743aboutr darkness and scratch maybe but NOT scans. kinger himself didn't know about those until he read the files on the copmputer.he only knew scratch was working on something but he couldnt remember and chances are its just like how they cant remember their names.
>>153951079The concept of him selling his stepchildren to the Fudge is so funny
>>153951085>Heroin complex done wrong.
ive fumbled more hot babes than jax, they didnt die and i didnt turn into a girl over it
>>153951102You always must go on a walk with the cute girl or else she will kill herself, its just how things work
>>153951073>most humans Didn't know he was responsible for abstractions even prior to him entering the circus, huhAnyway Just a bit of strawman then?Guess we're finally done
>>153951102It is fitting that the Fumbler in Chief once fumbled a girl so badly she died
We all done breakdancing
>>153951128This is why this fucking show needed 12 episodes max, fucking damn it!
pomni's pomnuts
>>153951147this image fills me with lust
hello, everypomni.
>>153951102Jax kept hogging the Kaufmo side of their three wheel relationship so Ribbit was legit alone (ignore Ragatha, ignore why there's somehow a massive chain of partner up adventures for a cast of 5)
How many people was Caine responsible for abstracting, anyway?Scratch is a given.
Pomniocchio wishes she were a real girl instead of a amazing digital clown
one time i farted but it turned out to not be a fart, it was a shart
>>153951173this. he was even doing stuff like telling Kaufmo not to listen to anything Ribbit says because she is "lying" and it was out of nowhere too
I jump from joy when people discuss my art and OCs
>>153951173Ignore also Kinger
So now that the dust has settledWho really WAS the funny one?
I hate Ragatha.
>>153951210Bubble
>>153951186Maybe Kaufmo was treated to his own personal "Escape the Circus Adventure" as a trial run
>>153951210Kaufmo
>>153951011>Zooble's contrarianism makes Caine have breakdowns and get more unstable over the course of the show (they even seem to know)>Ragatha is ineffectual at administering her supposed great capacity for empathy and forgiveness and in practice is quite selfish (passive damage)
>>153950724Yup. She was so in love with Jax, that she didn't give a shit about leaving Kaufmo or talk with him.
>>153951211What da hell
>>153951211is this because she raped you in this thread?are we gonna get punished fishguy arc?
>>153951211b-based...
>>153951210Kinger
>makes jaxxy girl laughI think i know who the funny one was
>>153951221Given all the spooky drawings and all the looping around left behind from the exit door as leftover for Pomni to find, it's really likely he tried to fuck with Kaufmo to make him give up
>>153951227>in practice is quite selfish (passive damage)still seething she rightfully worried Jax was bad for Pomni, I see
>>153951211kek
>>153951210Not you, that's for sure.
>>153951149That's right
>>153951257>scared Kaufmo shitless into paranoia and depression
>>153951261Well yeah episode 9 recontextualized her. I'm talking before.
Evil grimy be like: i have a raygun that makes you straight
are we gonna get real tadc?
>>153951242What if...Both Ragathas combined into one Ragatha?
>>153951261>Implying she knew anything about thatPlus if she really gave a shit she would have broken her promise to Jax.
>>153951283>episode 9 recontextualized her.Yuritards will be squealing for months.
>>153951257>>153951282I didn't even consider that, it does give a better perspective if Caine did pull that
>>153951300she would become unstoppable
>>153951261>>153951283 me Also, it moves the issue to the Ribbit and Kaufmo era. It's not really gone per se.
>>153951283before what? before the series even started she had reason to suspect Jax's involvement in Ribbit abstracting.
>>153951073Lmao
>>153950844He did?
>>153951297>TADC the Stage Play>characters suddenly realise they're actors on a stage and jump into the audience attacking them Sweeney Todd style
>>153951307>>153951257That would imply the pomni thing was also adventure wouldnt it? He probably just left there by accident and kaufmo discovered too
Caine might be responsible for Princess Loolilalu dying since he left that fudge guy run around Candy Kingdom.
>>153951301but she couldn't do that, because the plot required it and for literally no other reason. gotta love that gooseworx writing
>>153951337Or maybe he didn't even have time to clean up.
>>153951352im put the nega CAINE in his place!!
>>153951352last we see her she's still running. I'm sure ragatha will swoop in to save her
for the love of god have this be the next thread op lmfao
>>153950995>He said sorry
Any wrongs that Caine did and may have done in any way will be just brushed off as 'the blue AI dunnit' anyway.
>>153951210Zach Hadel fish
>>153951388He still regretted his actions tho
>>153951242I fucking LOVE evilgatha.
Jax should have just removed the part of his brain that made him a dick and trans
>>153951409>but he said sorry
jax didn't feel sorry for anything that he did he only felt sorry that he abstracted and couldnt come back.
>>153951079Jax really said this.
>>153951411the virginal ocean dweller fishguy vs the gigachad river monster evil fishguy....
So that's what people meant on why sorry is a magic word!
>>153951428based and realisticpilled
>>153951426Caine said sorry and actively worked into making everyone's lives better while fixing his mistakes.Jax just hid away and killed himself so that he didn't need to deal with the problem at hand.
>>153951461>but he said sorry
>>153951474Can you come up what you would feel would be an a proper punishment for Caine?
>>153951474yeah and saying/feeling sorry is part of it.
>>153951492>but he said sorry
>>153948508Its a werid manipulation thing where people pretend they used to agree with you, but then changed their mind.Hes really just waiting, this ending makes the whole show pointless and unwatchable
>>153951013You're on /co/, anon.
>>153951461also, Caine always WANTED to be good. he was bad at it, he had an ego, but he was doing all he could within his limited capacity to be good until bubble caused him to have a mental breakdown.Jax never tried to be good. he knew full well that he was hurting people and that doing so could cause them to abstract and he just didn't care. he was given every chance to change but he kept doubling down until it finally killed him
>>153951474If jax said sorry atleast half of the circus would welcome him back
>>153951499when you say something enough it loses it's meaning
>>153951521>but he DIDN'T say sorry
>>153951088pappo already destroyed that loser and his sonic.exe cringe
>Running the Circus like a tyrant and being directly responsible for the abstraction of a dozen people is forgivable because he apologized after two decadesFuck Caine. Repentant killers still die in prison for a reason.
>>153950696>he pushed his mom dude, he deserves to be labotimizedYou are genuinely mentally deranged
It starts with "sorry"Though it cannot just end thereI learned from Char- POMNIFirst, you must prove you careMistakes are innate to being human and aliveWe fall, we repent, we survive
>>153951547"I'm sorry you feel that way."
>>153951521I hate that you're right
>>153951544Poor Jaxpup. Can't even spell to defend his troon incel hero.
there should've been one more episode to set up caine's redemption
>>153951556"-shot many times" is funny out of context
>>153951547SHOWS TARGETED AT MENTALLY ILL TEENAGE GIRLS
>>153951257>>153951307You guys remember Caine hates abstraction right?
>>153951560Holy shit, you're legitimately autisticNTA but the joke flew completely over your head
>>153951521>>153951530If Jax could come back, do you really think the others hate him enough to not want him back?
>>153951210Me.
>>153951574The only joke here is Jax.
>>153951573So what?Jax, funnily enough, is proof that he isn't aware on how far he can push people mentally if prodding them enough
>>153951586Would be similar to how zooble said they made their lifes hell, but if she was as sorry as caine i think they would somewhat accept it
>>153951574you sound upset
>>153951573Caine repeatedly tortures the people. Deliberately putting them through personal hells again and again and again.
>>153951566That character has some good 34
I think thematically it only makes sense that they would eventually be ok with jax being sorry, its literally the thing he had to do to end up like caine
>>153951566Never to mentally ill boys...
>>153951588N...NANI?! MASAKA...!『Literally Me Stando』?!
new bread>>153951632
>>153951537Literally how.
>>153951615(Physical) torture doesn't make people abstract. Remember that Jax came within seconds of abstracting, then didn't during the several days Caine was taking him on torture adventures.
>>153951644Im a somewhat mentally ill boy and i like this show, what now?
>>153951011>Kinger helped make an AI in the 80sI mean he is directly responsible for the plot of the show by creating Caine and not hooking him up to a modem.
>>153951614I hate autists, that's all there's to it They're a chore to deal with and I'd rather deal with children instead since at least they do learn And if at first they don't, they do put an effort into it IF they want
>>153951077I'm enjoying this celebration when I can. Can't say it wasn't worth it.>and that no one in the group has the slightest problem letting him join the group after he spent weeks torturing themHey at least the Jaxfags will have our backs on this one right?
>>153951660Ah yes, because dying/getting hurt/having your fears exposed to some degree up until EP8 becoming wholeq does wonders for the mental health
>>153951573He says that but he doesn't appear to grieve them any more than he did Gummigoo. You know, until he got hooked up to wifi.
>>153951685I was kinda jokingly saying that but now you just DO sound upset lmfao
>>153951707keep yapping like a buttmunch, i'm sure people will turn the other cheek like that
>>153951728Never work with or around autists
>>153951608The only point where Jax responds to one of Caine's adventures with hints of abstraction is the end of the Exit adventure, otherwise it's after his>Rejection of Pomni>Rejecting Zooble reaching out to him>Kinger's exposition dump about C&A>Kinger revealing they where brain scansThe consistent pattern is Jax being confronted with his own narrative about nothing mattering.Your right about his lack of self-awareness but the idea being shared>>153951257>>153951307>>153951615that Caine was doing it deliberately to torment Kafumo and drive him to abstraction, which is contradicted by Caine's entire goal being win them over with his adventures and that he takes Abstraction like a middle finger.
>>153951735Hey I accept the price of the moral mob, but I was told that the cast accepting the apologies and good efforts of their tormentor was admirable and idealistic.
>>153951713I'm not saying it's good for your mental health. I'm saying we have a demonstration that it doesn't cause people to abstract.
