I want to fuck Rosie.
>>153959416>Money still has value in heavenDoes Andrew Yang run the economic policy there?
Will Charlie fight Alastor?
>>153959677In a sense, yes
>>153959686Following in her mother footsteps when it comes to the family business
>>153959694>Lilith also raped AlastorWTF I love Viv now!?
>>153959710She probably raped Adam. Idk know about Alastor. He might have been Charlie's first unsullied victim.
>>153959731I was having a bit of a stroke.
>>153959686Woah.
>>153959416he says a million heaven bucks so he might've been offering them a million hot deer guys. he agrees to the one-on-one with alastor to figure out if he could carry this shiny one back to hell as a treat for whichever girl does the best job.
>>153960894*heaven
>>153960952all part of the plan! you could even argue that it was necessary, because without adam breaking the treaty, lucifer wouldn't do anything to stop his daughter's dreams from going up in smoke.
The average Hazbin Hotel fan
>>153959005Good taste
>>153959467Either heavenborn aren't a privileged class and still need to earn money or money still exists because some Winners feel fulfilled working and that's their idea of Heaven.
Adam breeding Lilith.
>>153963811
>>153963811lilith and adam should have identical personalities and physical strength, as they were created equal, so lilith should also breed adam.
>>153964085No Mpreg
>>153959005She'd make you call her mommy
>>153964219the shape of adam's robe suggests absolutely superb childbearing hips, it'd be a waste NOT to.
>>153964085Dominate, but no male pregnancies.
>>153963811I wonder if they could produce a less chopped Abel.
>>153964532>Lilith riding Adam while choking him and forcing him to give her a non idiot child
>>153964742>>153964939Kino.
Imagine humanity if it had descended from Adam and Lilith instead.
I feel like people with actual souls are descended from Lilith and NPCs are descended from Adam and eve.
>>153959686>Overlord not so tough after being molested. >And (You) are next.
>>153965288They would be taller plus purple eye colour would be pretty common.
Eden, but Eve and Lilith are arguing about who Adam should impregnate.
>What's 200 more years >I can always start again >Make another kid
>>153965597Peak
>>153965597while they're arguing he's fucking lucifer who got forced to shapeshift into a female bc sera didn't want to teach adam how sex works herself. this is the more humane alternative punishment for luring lilith out of the garden and trying to talk eve into eating the apple, thank goodness adam found them before she took a bite! a little memory edit on the humans to remove all of their memories of lucifer was easy enough. and despite severe reluctance at first, lucifer does seem to have accepted the punishment. in fact she might even be enjoying it...
>>153965597>"I' am an older more experienced woman, aged like a fine wine, Adam~">"Please! She's too loose, ever heard of grippy socks, grippy box, Adam~">The two continue to bicker and yell at each other to gain Adam's affection. >However, for the fist time ever in his mortal life, somehow a woman- no! Two women managed to turn off Adam.>"No wonder the lesser sex got us kicked out of Eden" he thinks to himself, still, Eve and Lilith arguing with each other is mildly entertaining.
>>153965766What the fuck, I like Adam's Apple now?
>>153965597>>153965833Funny enough this more accurate to how things would go down. Eve and Lilith would literally start shit talking eachother the moment the smallest inconvenience appears. A woman greatest hater is always another woman.
>>153959005>Fucking a cannibal demon with sharp teethNot how Id like to go out but to each his own
>>153965880Lute will admit this.
>>153965835Because Lucifer is eternally punished to be a naked bitch.
I like that Lute is a fierce and badass woman, but is still staunchly obedient to a man.
I kind of wish Vivzie actually committed to something for once in her show. The show would be way better if they either went "the sinners in hell really deserve to be there," or "heaven is actually super authoritarian." There is really no middle ground Vivzie.
>>153966051>I’m a strong, dependent woman!Exactly how God designed them to be.
>>153966048and also has to watch when adam does start fucking lilith and she's really into it thanks to lucifer's training. since she and adam are perfectly physically compatible, adam's natural form + lucifer's training means she likes sex with adam more than she did with lucifer and doesn't even know it. >>153965880both eve and lilith end up bonding over looking down on and pitying girlcifer because the poor thing can't get pregnant.
>>153966145Nah. Because Lucifer defiled Eve and Lilith, Adam ignores Eve and Lilith. And those two women are forced to see what they can’t get forever.
>>153965766> lucifer who got forced to shapeshift into a female Can she change back?
>>153966491Would she want to go back to being a male?
>>153966554But anon. Lucifer is supposed to be cursed for trying to take Adam’s masculine place. They would have to have an eternal consequence for it.
>>153966554>>153966605Mating press.
>>153966554Literally just looks like Charlie.
>>153966619>Charlie's mother looks like CharlieBravo, Vivienne.
>>153966451He needs to have kids so he can't really ignore them.
>>153966664I was a drawing attention to the fact that male Lucifer is just rule 63 Charlie. Fem Lucifer is just shorter Charlie with a different hair style. Which makes sense to an extent.
>>153966617>Shortstack Fem Lucifer getting mating pressed by Adam>Her small frame getting crushed by the brutal breeding
>>153966758Art of this now.
>>153966619Indeed >>153966617Lucyfer already has a "mating press"Her Mallard, who she is absolutely quackers for. >>153966709>Fem Lucifer is just shorter CharlieMeans you can carry her into the Bass Pro Pyramid.
Adam should use Lucy as a fleshlight.
Lucifer dick.
>>153966451no, adam, lilith and eve all got hard-reset by speaker and sera, and eve was stopped before she could be corrupted in the first place. this is lucifer's alternative punishment remember. lilith is as much of a victim of lucifer's manipulations as eve is, in speaker's eyes. >>153966491by the time speaker has deemed lucifer ready to have her shapeshifting powers back, she's so cock-broken from ten thousand years of being adam's spare hole whenever he doesn't want to put up with lilith and eve's bickering for more babies that she doesn't want to anymore. >>153966758>she had to teach him how to do that>if she wants to make this good for lilith she has to make it good for herself too
>>153966679Where do you think they’re coming out from?
>>153966892The memories are gone, but Eve and Lilith still made the choice to chase the clown that is just as stupid as them and mated with him. And the Speaker and Sera aren’t going to forget that.
>Unironic exploration of a porn fantasyOh my God, who cares. Someone just draw Lilith riding Adam's face, Eve riding his dick and FemLucifer rimming him.
>>153967026Sadly we don't have any drawfags. It would be peak though.
Drinking tea with Zestial.
>>153966948eve didn't, lilith did, now lucifer gets to spend eternity watching adam plow her exactly the way she likes it. now lucifer will know that the only reason lilith ever went with him in the first place was due to adam's inexperience with sex, not any of his fanciful delusions. this is how lucifer understands the true message of his punishment - he couldn't be patient and allow humanity to learn and grow at their own pace. his pride meant he thought he knew better, and so he refused to allow adam and lilith to learn how to solve their conflicts themselves.
>>153966948I'm not sure. In the long run does it really matter if in the end they popped out double digits numbers of Adam's kids? Now that's I'm thinking about would Lucifer still be with Lilith if instead of being dropped in hell with him she was exiled alongside Adam and Eve to help populate Earth? Would someone as prideful as Lucifer stomach being with Lilith after 900 years of taking Adam dick and making several human children? Would he spaz out even harder when some of the sinners are obviously descended from Lilith? Fruit for thought.
But if Adam bred Lucifer instead of Eve Abel wouldn't exist and then who would sexually discipline Lute?
>>153967026>Unironic exploration of a porn fantasySuch fantasies as picrel? >>153967054We used to have plenty of them, one I'm great friends with - has joined the Army, I hope he can get to return to drawing soon, once he's done with boot camp. >>153967069What kind of tea, coffee is better preferable though.
Why is Lute into fat men.
>>153967211Make sure to tell him to specifically draw Adam breaking the bed by aggressively mating pressing Lucy.
>>153967189no lucifer can't get pregnant even as girlcifer, she doesn't have pregnancy privileges. adam can still knock up eve and produce abel, although his attitude might be different since it's unlikely cain would become the first murderer if they're all chilling in paradise together instead of struggling in the dirt.
>>153967211Earl Gray tea.
>>153967242Brotherly murder might still happen exempt it would be a half sibling situation. I could definitely see Lilith's firstborn ( possibly son) somehow beefing with Cain. Could be a case of boys pushed into conflict by their mothers ego and pride.
>>153967233I'll see what I can do - when the time comes, but it is not a guarantee, Anon. Speaking of his work...have this.
>>153967293nah they get all that out of their systems by bullying girlcifer. stop resisting the load-bearing lucifer utopia anon.
>Lucifer just ends up being humanity's eternal maid
>>153967318I have come to understand the vision. I also like to think the one who permanently turn Lucifer into a girl is Michael.
>>153967318Would Charlie still exist, and exorcists etc?
>>153967336Hot.
>>153967393hard to say - the exorcists might exist as a more general army to defend heaven from threats from other realms, or standing by against whatever is lurking in hell to begin with.as for charlie, there's apparently leaks/hints that she's kind of a weird miracle baby to begin with, so she might. but she wouldn't really be charlie as we know her due to the circumstances of being a paradise baby in paradise instead of canon. maybe adam decides to let girlcifer name one of lilith's kids as a reward for all her hard work and 'since you can't have your own it'd be like she's yours kinda' (and as a punishment for lilith for going too far with a prank on lucifer) and that's how charlie comes about.
>>153967571>maybe adam decides to let girlcifer name one of lilith's kids as a reward for all her hard work and 'since you can't have your own it'd be like she's yours kinda'This is weirdly dark
>Adam is allowed to impregnate FemLucifer once>This is how Charlie is born
>>153967571>No Charlie, Vaggie, Lute as we know themGotta shut it down. Shut it all down
>>153967594cute. lilith and eve are babied out at this point and do that thing where they're a bitch to girlcifer but ADORE charlie like how some women hate their daughters but dote on their grandkids.>>153967593>>153967615they could get snatched from a doomed timeline and brought to paradise right before they die.
>>153967127It matters because they form the kingdom.Lucifer’s punishment is to be the one breeding it out as the submissive one no longer possessing her greatest powers.
>>153967709> they could get snatched from a doomed timeline and brought to paradise right before they die.With their Adam and Abel coming with them.
>>153967745Classic Meat and Candy split. Meat timeline is violent and many die but objectively better while the Candy timeline superficially looks like a paradise but underneath is a chain of fucked up relationships.
>>153967802Would the people of the doomed timeline have to adapt to the Eden of that world.
The fuck are y'all talking about. Why can't these threads be useful and have leaks or spoilers. God, it's always got to be some schizo fanfiction.
>>153967802it's kind of a 'ones who walk away from omelas' situation except it's girlcifer and she's also completely into it now and would be permitted to use her full powers in order to perpetuate it. being adam's pleasure teacher is the one thing she can take pride in.
>>153967867We have no self control
There's only one thing for it. We're going to have to force a scratch
>>153967881It's kind of a 'you're brainstorming this AU with your hands in your fujo underwear' thing.
>>153967867I'd rather this than "Lute is Eve" fanfiction.
>>153967867They have improved since around the time season two dropped. >>153967594Could be an interesting way to show why Adam and Lucyfer would be so dismissive of Charlie or at least her Hotel Idea(Like in the Pilot), she'd be their bastard daughter and can't admit she's their daughter.
>>153967952Breed.
>>153967985No way. Those were some of the most fun I've had in a Hazbin thread for months. lucyfer is gooner slop for rule34 comments.
>One time when Adam went down to Hell, he ended up having sex with FemLucifer who shapeshifted into a woman>He's completely unaware of the fact that he ended up knocking her up>Thinks that Charlie is Lilith and Lucifer's daughter, unaware that's actually his
>>153967939nah this is regular porn brain, fujoshit would keep lucifer male.
>>153967985
>>153968054There is a fuck ton of fujo adamsapple art that gives one or both of them pussies. This has fujo smell all over it.
>>153968068What's with the obsession to see Lucifer pregnant, is my question. Did Viv say something about it. Watch her make that shit canon.
>>153967985i've been thinking about how weird it is that sera doesn't seem to blame adam or hold him accountable for any of it while clearly being upset with lute for a while now actually, as well as treating her as the 'face' of the exorcists down to the building adam's office is in... a regular rank and file wouldn't have that kind of impact surely...
>>153968068nah there's too much lilith and eve breeding and lucifer cucking for it to be fujo.
>>153968087It's nothing deeper than just being the most common fujo fetish ever.
Adam with a pussy is unnatural and weird. Lucifer with a pussy makes sense, because he's already basically a woman and can shapeshift anyway.
>>153968114Lol you keep telling yourself that.
>>153968112Lucifer being involved at all fills the air with a suspicious fishy poon fujo smell...
>>153968067Serious question, what will you end up doing with your life once this theory is debunked?
>>153968095There's no point in trying to provide evidence because people won't believe it unless it's spelled out for them on screen. I can't wait to see this shitstorm when it happens. You're going to have everyone saying 'they never hinted at it!!!111' I lowkey gave up lmaoLet people run under the delusion of the whole Roo/Eve or the Eve/Lilith twin theory. That's the shit people want really bad for some reason.
>>153968178Answer my question.
>>153968169Serious answer? Nothing. What, do you want me to rage like matpat? Nah. Genuinely, I didn't even think about this until Jessica's deleted tweet, and then once you go down the rabbit hole it's really hard to unsee. I do my homework. But I'm also not delusional enough to think that I'm 100% right. I am extremely curious either way on what it is they're doing. Regardless, I am honest to goodness curious as to what prompted Jessica to engage with the theory in the first place. And then given that Lute is confirmed to stick around until season 5, I'm just curious on her whole character arc. That's really it.I do know some people personally that say that they'll drop the show like a hot potato if it turns out Lilith was like a shit parent. I knew some that dropped the show when it was clear that Lucifer wasn't this big badass boss. People are very strange and sensitive to this sort of thing. It's kind of weird.
>>153968212First of all, fucking chill and don't tell me what to do, fucking moron. I did answer you. Give it a few seconds. If this is matpat, please fuck off. Your theories hold a lot less water than mine do.
>Adam catches Lucifer and Lilith in the middle of the apple exchange>He quickly alerts angels to their district and they swarm the place>Lucifer, Eve, and Lilith get locked up>Each having their separate trial>Lucifer is on the place of judgement. >He is initially on the sentence of being damned to Hell>He is given a choice to have a lighter sentence to avoid it>And he carelessly accepts it and signs it before reading anything >Sera sighs. She tells Lucifer he should’ve took his time to read.>Speaker comes up to Lucifer with holy light radiating through her hands. >She places them to Lucifer and Lucifer is surprised by being in her female form. And she can’t shift back to it.>The Speaker reveals the alternative punishment.>Lucifer, for seeking Adam’s place and taking his wives, shall be reassigned to be in Eden as its most submissive entity.>To lose her powers of a seraphim. To walk about as Adam does. Butt naked. Permanently. To be brought lower than Adam and submit to him. Permanently. >Lucifer loses her clothes and powers.>But the last thing she’ll lose are memories. She’ll wake up in Eden never knowing her own history.
Actually, matpat's theories hold a lot less water than literally anybody else's here. It's pretty sad. Prime example of the kind of people that should not be watching this show. I can't imagine making something, making my own characters, and then having some schizo impose what they think I should have done or how these characters 'actually' are. That's some weird shit. That's like that one guy who killed himself over a celebrity because she started going out with someone else.
>>153968219the answer to the sensitivity is always always always projection. lucifer turning out to be a goofball made all the fans living vicariously though unloved and abused charlie who gets beat by her dead headcanons pissy, for example.
>>153968255Yeah, that's what I'm seeing with all the stans. That is some weird parasocial shit. Like, literally just make your own characters? But whatever.
>>153968250Sounds like projection to me.
>>153968275Okay matpat
>>153968095I think it'll make a lot of the Adam glazers really mad but, the way Sera treats Adam... it's not like a spoiled kid, but like a parent that gave up on their kid. Adam is a shit guy. She constantly acts disappointed with him. I'm not surprised nobody mourned him or anything. People are in such denial about it but honestly, Adam apparently was just not an important asset to Heaven, like... at all. People just impose the whole first man shtick, you know, on account of mainstream portrayals of him, and assume that Hazbin has to do the same shit. He was more of a mascot from what I can say.
>>153968037NTA. I miss doing greens in these threads so discussing stuff like "AUs" or "gooner slop for rule34 comments" - can get my mind going on a green to write, HH only works as a case study and writing greens can hone my own writing as well. Plus I miss the silly shitposting these threads once had.
from what I can see ***
>>153968255I like the weirdos who say that Lute wants to rape Vaggie, that she's this closeted lesbian that was groomed/raped by Adam and she hates him. Projection like this is an art.
>>153967301hmmm...pregnant Nifty...
>>153968441Do you think she lays an egg sack like a roach. Or does it pop inside her pregnant belly, and then a bunch of little roaches come out of her cooch
>>153968320she does clearly expect something decisive from adam from her reaction to abel's indecisiveness when she asks him for his input on what they should do. she was shocked that abel shrank the way he did.the winners were also super chill about vox's attempted invasion despite the chaos and terror that caused them, so maybe it's just a thing that winners don't hold negative emotions in general for long, and another way that sir pentious continues to be an exception. we see multiple angels in the courtroom meanwhile freaking out that adam's gone and what that means, so SOMEONE besides lute isn't happy about events, and if lute doesn't want to continue being toothless, she needs more allies in heaven.
>>153968332Feel free to post those greens on the rule34 comments under some ai generated lucyfer images.
>>153968498The femnon doesn’t pay attention to any of this. She wants a narrative where Abel and Lute don’t care about Adam at all.
>>153959005She's the only character Viv draws with some meat on their bones
>>153965306While the hooves would be a bit weird, I'm sure she's a demon in the sack, lmao
>>153968583No? Not at all. If anything Lute and Abel are probably the only ones that care. Abel is weird but I'm sure we'll get answers in season 3.
Jesus Christ, you make assumptions about me real quick. Either that or you're confusing me with someone else. I've said before, I go with the flow. I'm just stating what I've currently been seeing. Why would Abel and Lute not care about Adam when that's literally what we see on the show lol
These threads would have almost nothing to talk about if Adam and Lute weren't in the show.
>>153968731Goes to show you how shit the series is.
>>153968674Don’t act surprise when the lack of Adam causes Heaven to bend over to sinners again and decay.
>>153968592Rosie has nice buns.
>>153968673Very likely is, especially if you follow Lilith's background to the letter and Charlie being her daughter... I still prefer Charlie being a lovable goofball like Emily and how she was in the pilot, but admit her being "Lady in the streets, freak in the sheets" in quite funny.
Adam isn't coming back. Meaning, nothing more than a hallucination.
>>153968731>Strong man leading the strong dependent woman matter more than anything else in a show themed to Heaven and Hell
The hips on that woman...
>>153965880>A woman greatest hater is always another womanA truth so harsh that even other women have trouble accepting it. Like a society of mostly women and ruled by women would be a fucking psychotic place to live, even for other women.
>>153968900'strong man' lol
One thing I don't understand is not shipping Guitarspear.
>>153968902Here you go, Anon.
Is anyone surprised that Vox nearly wiped out tons of sinners.
>>153968998Thanks.
>>153967189>Be Abel>have tons of 10/10 qt angels throwing themselves at him>doesn't fuck any of themWhat the fuck is his problem?
>>153969190He's just a chill dude. Leave him alone.
>>153969190Gay for Peter.
Thicc lady.
>>153969047Want me to do more shitpost edits for other characters? >>153969190>>153969219He already has a wife and lust is a sin.
>>153969288Yes, make more.
>>153969274Wife.
Genuine question for the Rosie gooners/glazers. Do you guys want her to be Lilith / Eve / Roo? I'm curious on how the stans feel about that
>>153969352 The Lilith thing more like acceptance than people wanting it. Rosie Eve is pure fanon for fanon sake.
>>153969352I want her to be Rosie.
>>153968817Original image?>>153969232Knowing Viv, that's likely the case since the show has already hit its quota on straight relationships.
Rosie is so cute!
>>153969389I don't know, I used to think that, but.... Viv pretty much confirmed that the Lilith we've seen so far is Lilith. Erica said it too. Then they said they have a voice actress for Lilith who's very diva-like and queen-like. It'd be stupid to set all that up for 'Lilith' only for it to turn out to not be a Lilith at all? But whatever. I can't wait to see how Viv fucks it all up
>>153969295Coming right up, Anon >>153969274>>>153969320>>153969461Indeed.
>>153969508Thank you.
>>153969483It’s Viv. Lilith will expose herself to be Eve at her wits end and pretty much get killed off comedically before she’s explored. My bet on the killer is Adam for irony’s sake. Like after he and Rosie had a conversation and Adam goes by Rosie’s (Lilith’s) advice. Getting the mastermind killed by the original dealers she tried to screw over. It’s going to be rushed to shit.
>>153969700No, I don't think so. Old leaks and an ex employee confirmed that she will be forgiven for her sins by Charlie, surprise surprise. Adam isn't coming back.Anyway, I'm not fully convinced of that theory anymore. But I'm looking forward to see whatever play out.
>>153969731>Adam isn't coming backYes he is. He's far too popular with the deviant women who make up this show's fanbase to stay dead.
>>153969795Oh geez, you're one of those
>>153969862No, I just think that his popularity will cause some concession to be made on Viv's part. Case-in-point: Chaz' Funeral
>>153969862What’s the point against Adam coming back when the anti-Christ and Lucifer get their sugar mama back?
If Chaz gets to come back, but Adam doesn't, then Vivzie is genuinely fucking retarded.
>>153969892Are you seriously comparing Chaz to Adam? This has been covered here before but Chaz is on Helluva Boss, so there's no real repercussion either way. They can do whatever they want on that show. He's a minor character and doesn't affect the main plot in a significant way. Adam and Hazbin are on a whole different league. He ain't coming back.
Adam glazers confidently thinking he'll come back is a whole different league of cope. It's fun to watch.
>>153969448>Original image?I sadly can't seem to find it, luckily - I do have the first image. >>153969731> But I'm looking forward to see whatever play out.Like the current slow train wreck we are witnessing.
>>153969978Personally I think it could go either way (with it being likely that he isn't), but I do hope he comes back. He was the best part of the show.
>>153970019I would not say he was the best, but he was entertaining enough. If I get to see more of Adam making a fool of himself, why not I guess.
>>153969954Anon here >>153969892 has a point, if she thinks of something "cool" to do with Adam, she will bring him back and she did it to Chaz - who is unpopular to the point where his VA gets outright ignored at cons. Also Viv cannot let go of her toys because she doesn't create characters not even OCs - she creates toys that she can play with, her setting is nothing but a toybox and she is constantly changing what toys she plays with.
>>153968212Who the fuck does this nigger think he is lol
>>153970125Not when the production is handled by Amazon/a24 and she has less creative control on the story. Not only that, but season 3 has already been done recording and season 4 is almost done. To go back and revise I imagine would not be an easy feat for her. Again, this is not Helluva Boss. She decided to scrap an entire episode because it got leaked, and people who got upset about Millie trying to off herself. She can't do that shit with Hazbin.
>>153969978Joke's on you, I thought he was an insufferable asshole in season 1 and was glad when Niffty killed him. I still think Sinner Adam has potential though, and get why a lot of people love him.
>>153970209I don't get it. What am I looking at? Someone's fanfiction?
>>153970209Sinner Adam sounds retarded. It's like the Fallen Emily thing. Although... Roo puppeteering Adams corpse and having that fight against Lute would be pretty metal.
>>153970241Someone's idea on how Sinner Adam could be done well. Funnily enough it wasn't really until that post that I myself saw the potential with it, since before my dislike of Adam meant that I was glad he was gone and hoped he would stay that way.
>>153970156Also a fair point, though she still does have some control in HH - so we'll have to wait and see, but you know Viv will push for something like that. >>153969561Here is some more, you enjoy cougars?
>>153970303>It's like the Fallen Emily thingI agree with this, and while the art is tight, I was never really onboard with the idea that either Sera would condemn her to Hell or that she would fall, given that her only 'sin' was "caring too much"
>>153970345The big cause of. Emily’s fall would be carelessness. Just like Lucifer.
>>153970345Finally someone with brains.
>>153970379No, his sin was not carelessness. Just a shot in the dark, given what we are told and what we know... The elders probably told him hey, don't meddle with this shit. And so like the rebellious teenager angel child, he decided to do the thing anyway. And that's on top of having taken Lilith away from Adam. It doesn't matter that she ran away. She was the intended bride for Adam, Lucifer meddled with that arrangement as well. That's not caring too much, that's him being a prideful little shit. At the very least Emily is trying to do good. Lucifer strikes me as having tried to do something just because he thinks he knows better.
>>153970333I actually agree with you! Fair point. We'll just have to see how it all plays out. Not ruling it out entirely, because I can see Viv pushing for something like that. I just don't see it as likely at this point, but who knows! I wouldn't mind being surprised. Besides, with how much the crew loves guitarspear, I can see them trying to find a way to actually get them together. Can't really do that if he's dead.
>>153970333Cougars are hot.
>Adam is back as a more powerful holy angel. Catch is him making Lute and Exorcists more domestic to make them fit into heaven more. The rebels against this are quickly executed. Abel is still the head exorcist but a new lieutenant replaces Lute.
>>153970422So carelessness.
>>153970551Pride.
>>153970449With Season 3 supposed to be the reason that Amazon picked the show up, I expect nothing but more disappointment. >>153970471Indeed, like Mayberry.
>>153970523>Abel has this new military girl after Emily is banished to Hell.>He is advised by his father to move on from her.
>>153970604I too am extremely curious about that. What was so good about the pitch that it made Amazon pick up the series. Not going to lie, I'm pretty scared. Especially if it turns out that it's only going to have eight episodes again. This will be either the best season, or it'll be the worst season.
>>153970622My guess is plot twist spam bullshit.
>>153970604More Rosie please, she is the light of my life, the tire to my car, the butter to my bread, the vocals to my song!
Viv said we're also getting an explanation in season three as to why Rosie is so powerful.
>>153970681Are you okay if she's Lilith? Or does it not matter to you. Would you be disappointed? I'm super curious.
>>153970687She made a deal with Lilith/Eve
>>153970704I'd prefer her to be Rosie.
>>153970704NTA. For me, I see the Lilith Rosie situation as an opportunity for unexpected interactions that could make her feel more sympathetic.
>>153970719Fuck that plotline. It's from 2021. Let it go.
If she lives in cannibal town then there a nonzero chance that she vored somebody
>>153970772Nice.
>>153970738It does matter how old it is. Lilith is said to empower demons in the first episode and her power source is implied to be the strongest by how Heaven acts around her. Even the buffs Rosie gifts to Alastor are sound based. And Charlie is supposed to inherit this power.
>>153970839*doesn’t
>>153970681Of course, Anon>>153970704The show is fanfiction anyway - so Roo being Eve/Lilith who is Rosie means nothing to me - only the Pilot is canon, plus doing these shit post and making Anons happy is quite fun.
>>153970903Have you seen Rosie Eve content before?
>>153970839She's not lilith.
>>153970903Roo is not Eve. This has been debunked ages ago.
>>153970975People think of Eve being possessed by Roo when they go with Roo Eve.
>>153970903Thanks, Rosie is queen.
>>153971002The leaks said that Evil/Roo is feeding off of Eve's need for revenge, wrath, anger, etc. the leaks never actually say she's possessing Eve, just that she's taking advantage of the situation. That was pure speculation from someone in 2023 or so, and that is what took off in the fandom. And then that somehow got twisted into Roo being Eve. She's not. And she won't even be fully revealed until after Eve is defeated.I don't know why the wife switch enthusiasts still believe the broad in Heaven is Eve, because Roo/Evil is very clearly down in Hell. Nowhere near the supposed Eve. Because she's not Eve. She's just Lilith.
So wait, according to these people.... Eve is impersonating Lilith... Who is actually possessed by Roo? So it's like a triple layer identity subterfuge? And then they think Rosie is Lilith, Charlie's mom?Are people stupid.
>>153971133You’re not getting the Roo and Eve connection at all. Eve is possessed by Roo because she ate Roo’s fruit. And it makes her the direct link to Roo’s existence.
>>153971194That’s how Viv’s story is
>>153971248No fucker. She's not. This was confirmed by the employee who gave up those leaks in the first place. All Eve did in eating the fruit was open the container that Evil/Roo was in. She's literally the Apple, the tree, the eyes. Roo is in Hell. No, they are neither the same character, nor is Roo inside of her.
>>153970931No.>>153970975>>153971002It's another wait and see, this show has been so inconstant with it's "plot(s)" that it's possible.>>153971054>
>>153971285Yes, demons are cute.
>>153971270That's how you guys want her story to be. You're basing this off of leaks which by the way were given by disgruntled/bitter employees, who left apparently a while ago. You know things change, right? That's kind of how stories and shows work. Viv even said that she wants to make a comic based on her original vision of the show. So yeah, we may just be getting something completely different, assuming those leaks were even accurate in the first place. But people are too retarded to let go of the canon they've made in their heads.
>>153971285Yeah, you're absolutely right. I will conceive to that. We just have to wait.All I'm saying is that based on those leaks, based on a bunch of other shit, based on the show itself, Roo being inside of Eve driving her actions is just not accurate. But again, we'll just wait.
>>153971306Actually let me also take that back... Those leaks never even said that in the first place. It's fanon. At most, maybe they have a telepathic connection of some kind? But being inside her, impersonating her, that kind of thing? Nope.
>>153971306No one here wanted wife swap.
>>153971348Not sure about that. There's a lot of wife swap enthusiasts here and on Twitter, to the point where you if one mentions a completely different plotline, they are hounded. This is like the whole thing with Lucifer. People got attached to this daddy Dom that was never even established in the pilot, and people got pissy when it turn out their headcanons were wrong. Sometimes it's even spelled out to the audience, and people will still get it wrongSame shit happened with the digital circus. It was literally shown in the episode who was who, and then you had a bunch of schizo theorists saying the complete opposite. Roo is literally shown to be a different entity and all Eve is shown doing is breaking open where she was contained, the apple. But you still have schizos insisting they are one and the same.
>>153971305Quite so. >>153971306>>153971323Rosie could be the mysterious character Viv portrays her as, regardless of the leaks and the other clusterbucket of crap. I do not trust Viv or the other writers to execute it well, we've seen it first hand with other characters. Whatever may happen, keep your expectations low so if they exceed them, they'll bring you joy, if not, they'll already be low enough so you won't be surprised when it happens. To quote the late Kyle Busch - The show is a "wrecked bucket of fuck."
>>153971621Good advice.
>>153971621Love that smile!
When will the viziepop threads end?>you could just hide the threadsIt's not enough.
>>153972431Then go to other threads faggot.
>>153972467I'm not the faggot, I hate viziepop cartoons. And I doubt me going to other threads will make these viziepop threads go stop.
>>153971431Nah. Hazbin Hotel has Lilith looking really off in season 1 with her hair being inconsistent then her face being different too. Looking more like Roo’s/Charlie’s face instead of Lilith’s. Season 2 had her looking right but still wearing the hat to hide any potential differences that could be present.
>>153972528You hate Viviziepop shit (fair)... so you go on Vivziepop threads? Fucking retard. There's servers who 'hate' Viv and all they can do is bitch and moan about how much they hate her shit. Find one of those. You'll fit right on in with the rest of the retards.
>>153972565The flashback where Lilith's face is covered and retards believe it's Eve, is actually just Lilith. Look at the hair. She has the same cowlick Lilith does. Another detail people fail to realize is that Lilith has sported several hairstyles. If there's any swap going on, then it's probably Roo/Evil that's directly in diguise, not Eve.
How big is Rosie?
>>153971963It's a cute smile.https://youtu.be/xy-O6VIcI3A
>>153972799She's so fucking cute.
>>153972750She large
>>153972799I love her.
I am awaiting for the outcome to release.For truths to be revealed and love to win beyond your lowly, crooked imaginations.
>>153974879Or Viv will produce such dogshit that it will piss off everyone. Her somehow picking an option so bad that it manages to please nobody is always a possibility.
>>153975033Bet the lucky people in the Heaven base would be Adam X Lute shippers. And fans will be pissed off over what happens with the hell cast and Emily. Whether for stupid reveals or completely underwhelming writing.
>>153975033I'm eagerly waiting and dreading. Need to know if my schizo theories are real.
>>153975085I'm expecting her to fumble hard. Nobody is gonna be happy. Heaven base and Adam x Lute shippers included.
>>153972750Taller than Alastor
Season three was the one that got the whole thing approved. I wanna know what was so great about it that they decided to take the plunge with this ass show. That's a good sign, kinda... right?
>>153959005We know Alastor
>>153975201Could be a case of great idea but absolutely terrible execution. We'll have to wait and see.
>>153959005This show is highly satanic because it has DEMONS and HOMERSEXUALS
>>153975284GASP! WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?!?! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!111
>>153975284>Homersexuals They want to have sex with Greek Poet Homer?
>>153975188Would you be surprise if Adam turns out to be the most emotion-impacting character in the show and Lucifer is supposed to be a wobbie for doing awful things to Adam.
>>153975371I don't think they is even the smallest possibility of that happening so yeah I would be surprised. The bigger question would be if in this hypothetical scenario Viv somehow manages to mess it up despite how easy it would be to write.
>>153975401He's back? I thought he usually sleeps at these hours.
Its a shame Lucifer isn't friends with some Overlords anymore like the pilot showed.Like I know he hates Sinners and all, but I can see him calling Zestial "one of the good ones"
>>153975371No matpat, Adam is not a (least of all, 'the most') emotion-impacting character in the show. He's a satirical frat boy loser stereotype. Viv likes him but she doesn't like him that much. Cope.
>>153975424That would actually be hilarious.
>>153975424I kinda wished they really went with the angle that Lucifer is a borderline racist when it comes to humans ( especially sinners). It would make his interactions with the cast make even more sense and it would actually add some conflict with Charlie. Could also explain why Lilith left him.
>>153975420Chewed me out a few days ago for not agreeing with his whole 'evil Abel' schizo headcanons. P sure he's still around,
>>153975445I mean to be fair, him hating sinners is already a good basis / potential explanation for Lilith leaving him, on account of her trying to empowers sinners and all that.
>>153975446I'm pretty sure he showed up a couple hours ago but he tend to be doing other stuff around this hour.
>>153975454Her empowering sinners is too vague since we don't know if she actually cares about them or just needed stronger cannon fodder for her army.
>>153975459Then my bad. At this point, any Adam stan insisting Adam is some 'emotionally complex' hero triggers the matpat alarm bells. God those people are retards.
>>153975470Mmm, maybe? Idk I assumed she at least liked them well enough. Clearly she's Viv's figurehead for 'womyn empowerment' and all that. Not only that but she's a sinner too, so Lucifer talking about how shit sinners are applies to her. I thought all that combined already painted a bad image. I don't blame her for wanting out - add to that, she apparently ran Hell, or at least took up the duties that came with being Queen. Lucifer legit does nothing, apparently. But we'll see. I'm super curious,
>>153975475I only go for the MatPat accusation when they start talking about Able/Cain. That's when you know the jig is up. Adam glaze being mentioned isn't a good indicator.
>>153975510That's fair/smart. You can clock in immediately when they go on about Abel looking 'suspicious' and having ulterior motives. I don't know why people want Abel to be that kind of character so bad when Cain is the perfect candidate for it. But whatever. I wonder what's going to happen to schizos like him when the show utterly destroys their fanfictions...
>>153975522Funny enough when it comes to Cain I expect him to be an overall chill good guy and the whole rock thing was a massive lapse of judgement caused by jealousy. I kinda imagined that Cain was the competent one but ignored because he actually got shit done and Able was the dumbass that got constant attention because he would somehow mess up if you didn't watch him for a second. Able actually doing something right for once ( the whole lamb sacrifice) was what pushed him to the edge since Cain felt he would be fully forgotten by his parents. I don't see Viv ever making Cain evil because she's just a big fan of subversion ( even if she's dogshit at it).
>>153975605Maybe, maybe not, it's way too early too tell right now. The only things we have going on is Viv saying that Abel was *not* among the favorite children and this: https://youtu.be/CnAPkhOyt_Q?t=2381Q: What would a dream song be with Billy Joe Armstrong (Green Day,) Gerard Way (My Chemical Romance) & Brendon Urie (Panic at the Disco)? A: “Oh my god. I would I think it would be so cool to like somehow get all those iconic like voices from all these iconic bands and like yeah, one song together would be wild,” Q: Where would you throw that song in?A: “Oh, I don't know, I feel like um like it would have to be like the heaven side like but that's what's fun about Abel is that, like we, obviously I cannot say much about potential other members of his family, I will say um, but there may or may not be other members of his family that we explore in the show.
>>153959467They probably get GOOD BOY points up there.
I think Roo possessing Eve would be cool, would give Eve a really tragic angle of being helpless and consumed, but also a morally gray angle where she was rightfully angry at what happened to her and could get revenge through Roo. Wifeswap is completely retarded though and serves literally no narrative purpose. There's actually no reason for Lilith to be Eve and Rosie to be Lilith.
>>153975445I just hate how the show tries to excuse him for everything just because he isn't actually "malicious". He still introduced sin to the world, he refuses to accept he did anything wrong and mopes about it for millennia, he has a whole kingdom that he can't be fucked to run which is clearly causing problems, and he's a shit father on top of all of that. The guy is a mess but we're still supposed to see him as quirky and endearing when objectively he has a lot of negative things about him that impacts the people in his lives that can't just be handwaved as "he's just a silly little guy". The only possibility Viv has to fix this is to show that he was also a shit husband and that Lilith genuinely had a good reason to leave because she couldn't take it anymore, but I doubt she's going to do that. I mean fuck, she even made Lucifer not being able to harm sinners seem like it's a bad thing (which to be fair, I agree, but the hypocrisy here is that the show then also condemns Exorcists for doing exactly that).
A redditor wrote a script to analyse Viv's favorite ships based on the hashtags of what she has liked on Bluesky, her are the results circa about a month ago.
>>153976546>RadioShatpple and Stoolitz top the chartsFuck>Superior ships like Guitarspear, Madmaid, and based Staticapple are at 1% eachUh, good thing I'm not invested in the show for the ships, right?
>>153975446i don't hate the idea of evil abel inherently, i see the concept if he's 'evil emo boy' evil as the modern equivalent of adam's more traditional overt rockstar man evil. but making it more complex than that is kinda eh.
>>153976582At least Madmaid and Guitarspear are her favs for all characters involved.
>>153976546she's liked a few adamsapple pics which really surprised me.
>>153976614I'm not surprised because she likes everything except Charlastor (because she's petty) and Abel x Lute (cue schizo speculation)
>>153976546Crazy how the only good ship here is Guitarspear.
>>153976626i don't think she's ever liked any adam/charlie stuff either but that's pretty rare anyway. she's liked some cute adam/eve stuff too. rip all the people shipping abel and peter though i don't think i've seen her like any of that, especially now that abel/emily's getting popular.
>>153976660She has definitely liked Abel x Peter.
>>153976660Did she ever like Vox x Charlie? She's liked Vox x Lute which is pretty galaxy brain of her.
>>153976626>everything except CharlastorWTF I love Viv now!?>and Abel x Lute (cue schizo speculation)Besides some fanartists on here a few elsewhere, is AbelXLute that popular a ship?>>153976660>now that abel/emily's getting popularThat ship to me is the new Charlastor, in that it has a lot of pull within the fandom, but think it's unlikely to become canon, if only because this is a fucking fujo show, and it already has two canonical straight ships.
>>153976660>i don't think she's ever liked any adam/charlie stuff either but that's pretty rare anyway. she's liked some cute adam/eve stuff too.I kneel. Viv is so based.
>>153976722There was a flood of AbelxLute art after the season finale and it is decidedly more popular than some of the Lute ships she has been liking lately (see: LutexVox, LutexSera)
>>153976724Adam/Eve is based Af
I do hope that whenever we get to see Eve, it's outright stated that she and Adam actually loved each other.
Need more Lute x Vox unhinged power struggle sex. Personally I think she should slam his TV head down until it cracks and ride his dick while he malfunctions out of control and shocks her.
>>153976738>There was a flood of AbelxLute art after the season finaleI'll have to take your word for it, mainly because I haven't finished indexing and tagging images from that period in digikam yet, lmao.
>>153976790same; i do think they will be genuinely in love because it'd be way too bleak if eve spent her whole life being god-approved abused. adam being a good man in life and being twisted into what he became by heaven's failings would IMO be a stronger story beat than 'lol no god designed adam that way to begin with and he is what god wanted all men to be'. the latter means this becomes a JRPG 'time to kill god' story and i'm sick of those.
>>153976790>>153977015I'm genuinely afraid of what Viv will do. This woman will delude herself into picking the worst possible outcome thinking it's somehow empowering (ignoring the fact that if you think about it for more than a minute you realise how stupid and misogynistic it is)
>>153976670She's also liked Emily/Lute, Lute/Vox, and Roo/Vox even
>>153977637Roo/Lute ***
Adam, Roo and Lute threesome.
>>153964220>Makes you call her mommy
>>153977576i think it depends on what kind of creator's pet lucifer ends up being. he might be the perfect misunderstood baby who can do no wrong type, in which case we're fucked for an interesting story. however, he might be the type of creator's pet who exists to be a chew toy - the author delighting in torturing him with all of his failings and flaws - which is way more fun for us. the hurt-no-comfort type.
