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He cute.
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>>153964019
There's an alternate universe where The Thief and the Cobbler was a hugely successful movie. And you have a Tack balloon in the Macy's day parade and people with TTatC themed windshield shaders.
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>>153964833
Richard Williams fucked over everything most of the animators were dead by then
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>>153964019
His movie is nice, but the guy who worked on its restoration is a massive retard (Garret Gilchrist/Tygerbug)
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>>153964019
:)
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>>153965632
He shouldn't've been such a perfectionist. Maybe then Thief and the Cobbler could've actually been a finished piece that people would remember in current year.
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>>153966844
* :>
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>>153968679
I think his biggest mistake was animating the climactic war machine sequence as "test footage" to sell the film to the Shah of Iran. It's a segment that doesn't showcase any Persian culture (the main reason the Shah was interested in backing the film) and without any prior context it's just an overblown action sequence. Williams was a man who made advertisements for a living but he picked an awful way to sell a product to someone with deep pockets and no profit motive.
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>>153971510
Big mistake indeed.
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>>153968679
>>153971510
Williams was able to deliver things on time when there were people wrangling him. Roger Rabbit is a good example. On his own, however, he almost never finished his big projects (no, commercials don't count).
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>>153971510
I think that's a good point, but also that he furthermore failed to appeal to anyone else at all, which was likely the second biggest mistake. After all, most other types of pockets around were jews. While they are typically happy to fund disney-style greedy jew portrayal, the thief was too on-the-shnoze.
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>>153971510
The investor was a Saudi prince (Mohammed bin Faisal Al Saud). I'm not sure where this hallucination about the film not being Persian enough comes from, but it does not appear to be true. All accounts that I can find suggest that he really liked the film but was worried by the fact it they went overbudget and overdeadline by a huge amount.
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>>153973986
SHE cute!
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>>153964019
Cobbler Pomni
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>>153976572
Pardon, looks like I mixed it up with Williams' earlier attempt called Nasrudin. And that fell through for different reasons, mainly the Shah's family being famously corrupt.
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>He cute.
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>>153979416
Make the guy 3ft tall and you have a South Park thread
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>>153964019
cute feet
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>>153966678
Aside from wanting to remove the slaves' black skin tone, which goes against the whole point of a restoration unless Williams told him to do that face-to-face, what has he done wrong or stupid?
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>>153981423
Him being an unironic ponyfucker is a sin on its own.
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>>153964833
>There's an alternate universe where The Thief and the Cobbler was a hugely successful movie. And you have a Tack balloon in the Macy's day parade and people with TTatC themed windshield shaders.
literally nothing about the movie is that interesting to the general public aside from it's backstory.
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>>153981423
ruined the color grading on the war machine section and it just looks like a virtual boy game
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>>153981423
didn't he also add a scene where the One Eye's sex slaves turn on him because the original was "problematic"? unless I'm misremembering, why people gotta fuck with restorations
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>>153979729
I legitimately hate South Park and its "fans"
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>>153973986
Stills really don't do her justice
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>>153983658
This. normies don't give a shit about how smooth your animation is, only other artists care about that that.
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>>153983813
I think that was just part of an already existing storyboard.
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>>153986665
Animators care about conveying stuff like weight and expression. There is a class of people who put a high value on smoothness, but I'm not sure I'd call them normalfags, they're something else. The sort of people who think that all animation should be in 60fps and people who are bullish on AI, because AI is very good at making smooth movement, even nothing else. They're definitely out there, but I don't think they represent the opinions of most artists nor the general viewer. I'm not sure what to call them.
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>>153988925
yeah like I said, I don't think the average joe pays that much attention about the fluidity or minute details of the animation, which is really the main selling point of this film.
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>>153983945
Does this help?
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>>153989086
I always thought his skin going from pale white to a deep tan after they went to the desert was a bit too abrupt.
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>>153989554
They don't care about minute details of animation flow or whatever, but they 100% care deeply about if the animation looks choppy as fuck or if it looks fine to the eye. Normalfags very often pine for the older cartoons that had much higher framerates for this reason. To the point that a highly succesful videogame was made to mimic that style specifically citing animation as the keypoint, and it is also the animation style/rate that was primarily praised by normalfag reviews.
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>>153964019
Before enlarging the picture, I thought it was a goth chick or something
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>>153991483
If you're talking about cuphead, that game was successful also because of the nostalgia aspect of both old school video games and classic cartoons, not just because animation had a high framerate. And older cartoons appealed to general audiences because they were funny first and foremost
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>>153991483
>they 100% care deeply about if the animation looks choppy as fuck or if it looks fine to the eye. Normalfags very often pine for the older cartoons that had much higher framerates for this reason. To the point that a highly succesful videogame was made to mimic that style specifically citing animation as the keypoint
To be fair, no other game at the time looked like that, so for the gaming scene it was unique. But in theatrical animation, nothing is special about that, every Disney and Disney copycat film was animated on 1s at 24FPS.
"It doesn't look like a choppy slideshow" isn't exactly an achievement either, there's a reason why Don Bluth's films bombed when Spielberg stopped tard wrangling him.
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>>153989554
The average joe utilizes media as background noise. Whatever they put on, it's a blur of disjointed impressions. If it hits familiar notes, it's good. If there's novelty - anything which requires effort to process - it's shit.
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>>153996424
>The average joe utilizes media as background noise.
Yeah, they'd have no interest in this movie
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>>153988925
hipsters
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>>153996705
I really hate those fuckass sandals



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