>make cartoon >hide a better cartoon at the endI want more b-shows. Why can't studios do this anymore?
>>153964090Those only existed in cartoons that had a 7-minute format, cartoons for the past 25 years have always been 11 minutes or 22 minutes.
>>153964090I always liked the farm segments over Gardfiel.
Eek was still good though, if not just for Eek and Sharky.Thunderlizards being giga based just made it better.
>>153964412The less said of Klutter, the better.
>>153964424thats true.
>>153964090Eek got better as the seasons went on. First season was just more Roadrunner style main character gets hurt a lot bullshit. They decided to make it an actual show when it was changed to Eekstravaganza.
Bill Kopp made 4 cartoons in the 1990s, nobody ever talks about him. What went wrong?
>>153964424>>153964437Haven't seen that in years and just watched the intro for it. It looks alright?
>>153964669Eek was the only big one. I'm surprised people don't talk about Eek more though, maybe because it was on Fox and not Cartoon Network/Nick.
>>153964090Whatever happened to this genre of 2,3 even 4 shows in 1 ?
>>153964782When was the last time it aired on American television?
>>153966133That's a good point, it also hasn't aired since the 90s
Justice Friends and Dial M For Monkey were better than Dexter's Lab
>>153966244True, because they both didn't have a shitty comic foil.
>>153966133Fox Family had it rerun for years.
>>153966325Filtered
>>153964288us acres was good because wade being scared shitless of everything was a foreshadowing.
>>153964669Damn, he did the Incredible Crash Dummies pilot as well. An entire career swallowed by the memory hole.
>>153966244bait
>>153964090I even felt this way about the Justice Friends and Dial M for Monkey. not shitting on Dexter but I just really liked the sub shows.>>153964412the thunderlizards was such a great cartoon. funny and original concept with great voice acting. a 16 bit run and gun with doc, squat and cutter would have been awesome.
Eek was ahead of the curve with Annabelle too.
>>153964090Solar Opposites did it with 'The Wall'
>>153966325>shitty comic foil?
>>153972808Dee Dee, I'm talking about the annoying cunt.
>>153972124Annabelle was kinda fat
>>153964669Which shows?
>>153966325>>153972855Get fucked retard
>>153972868Calm down dude, all I said was that Dee Dee was annoying. I get WHY she's annoying, but that doesn't make her any more likeable IMO.
>>153972867Eek the CatToonsylvaniaMad Jack the PirateThe Shnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show
>>1539640902 Stupid Dogs is kino even without the SS segments.
>>153964090Don't forget Shnookums and Meat which had Pith Possum and Tex Tinstar.
>>153964090Growing up with this and then seeing the original version of Secret Squirrel was a real trip. It felt like two completely different shows that just happened to have a main character with the same appearance and name, but everything else felt different.Except Morocco Mole. Aside from his accent, he was pretty much exactly the same.
>>153964090Dexter'd Lab had one with Justice Friends
>>1539640907 minute-cartoons were a bad idea, the cartoons had an incredibly rushed production schedule. Dexter's Lab had 39 episodes produced within a year. Both Dexter and Cow & Chicken had 52 episodes total within 2 years, which is insane, usually 52 episode is 3-4 years, like Courage the Cowardly Dog.
>>153964090>Why can't studios do this anymore?GOOD NEWS, anon!
>>153964090Look decent
>>153972360That was a fun concept, didn't care as much for the Silvercops one tho
>>153976138>the cartoons had an incredibly rushed production schedule.Dex wasn't rushed, it just was easy to produce and also see him just needed new content during that time
>>153973687>Dexter'd LabDexter was great bro, what do you mean
>>153976138I would think that shorter segments would be easier to produce. If anything the faster output supports that notion.
>>153979290Atoms didn't like when Billy and Mandy episodes were 7-minutes and prefered the longer 11-minute format. You have to make more stories in a larger quantity while also having half the time to tell a story.
Has the influence of cartoon reviewers and zoomers distorted how people remember 90s cartoons? Cow and Chicken is regarded as one of the worst cartoons ever on 4chan's /v/, /co/ and /tv/, Twitter, Reddit and YouTubers, despite the show being popular when it aired and got good critical reception and won numerous awards. It was literally voted by viewers to become a series.
Remember when Pinky and the Brain was just a feature in Animaniacs?
>>153979336>You have to make more stories in a larger quantity while also having half the time to tell a storyCartoons that usually be in 7 minutes are mainly for comedy and has a basic plot, no need for real story, just looked at classic golden age cartoons
>>153964644No. It didn't.Full half-hour Eek was superior in every way. It had actual plots and the zaniness was a good thing. 15 minute version was dumbed down and they turned half the minor characters from season 1 into an ensemble cast so it was that much less creative.
>>153979697But that also means rushed endings and barely any characters. A show like Courage would be nowhere near as good if it was 7 minutes long.
>>153973687It's insane how much more relevant this show would have been in the 2010s after MCU became popular. The whole thing was a rip of various Marvel comics from the 70s and 80s.
Weasel was not better than Cow and Chicken. It was always the same shit, Baboon is jealous of Weasel being better than him at things and getting everything. Even as a kid I realized Weasel was the inferior show.
>>153979902>A show like Courage would be nowhere near as good if it was 7 minutes long.Yeah it would because the pilot was and it was as good as the series episodes if not a little bit different and lean more into Dilworth style and also courage has barely any characters either, That's pretty much the case for most of the CCs, the only exception is maybe Powerpuff but Even then if you don't count the villains that's not a lot of characters, The only thing I could agree on is the rush ending thing but that's also a case where like these are more comedies cartoons than they are story driven mean that conclusions to episodes probably don't matter as much compared to something like how funny the gags are, also you got to keep in mind some of these episodes and these are kind of made intentionally.
>>153979607I don't think reviewers have as much power as you ascribe to them. Rather, a review becomes popular because it expresses something that a lot of people have already felt. I didn't like Cow and Chicken when I was a kid either, although I wouldn't put among "worst cartoons ever."
>>153980578Did you watch past season 1? The show got retooled so Weasel and Baboon became friends and the plots became more surreal and less formularic. They also broke the fourth wall often. You can thank Maxwell Atoms for that.
>nobody ITT mentioned the Droopy and Dripple segments of Tom & Jerry Kids, which later spun off into Droopy, Master DectectiveKill yourselves zoomers
>>153980716It comes across as historical historical revisionism, nobody ever said the show was bad 20 years ago until zoomers came online.
>>153964782Fox cartoons are more popular in eastern europe rather than usa. Makes you think
>>153973687>shitty avengers rip-offwow, this is your brain on marvel goyslop. and there are people who think that comics should have a separate board from cartoons, when in reality, this garbage intertwines.
>>153980842I remember that, but I'm not an american
>>153966093It died out in the 2000's. ECC/Billy and Mandy was the last major instance of it I can recall. Maybe the networks paying for them saw more money in focusing on one concept over two?
>>153966244You can argue that being the case for Secret Squirrel over Two Stupid Dogs. With Dexter I feel all the segments were equal in quality. The show really does nosedive once they stop making appearances though. Kinda odd to consider the Justice Friends would technically count as HB characters nowadays.
>>153979730It's a shame Eek and alot of other FOX kids stuff is locked in the Disney vault. People would eat this up nowadays.
>>153980842Droopy really never found his footing after the golden age did he? It's sad.
>>153980716Yet, you love Ed Edd n Eddy despite the creators being friends irl, Kys Edfag.
>>153972864>... Really?
>>153966244nah just Justice Firends, but Dial M for Monkey was good just not better than Dexter's Lab
>>153981920>Kinda odd to consider the Justice Friends would technically count as HB characters nowadays.They always been HB characters
>>153964288Proofread your posts before hitting the 'Post' button.Also, checked.
>>153980582The best episodes of Pinky and the Brain are either 11-22 minutes long. It has some 7-minute episodes and those are fine, but not fantastic. You cannot have Brain explain his plan, go on an adventure, and have it backfire in that short amount of time, not to mention the duo doing saying their catchphrases.
>>153982329WB/CN seem to flip flop over whether or not Dexter counts as CN or HB. Seeing as he's 30 years old now I just lean towards the HB label. Same goes for the Puffs at this point. Sort of related, I've been thinking Warner should package all their action cartoons under the HB branding. Everything from Space Ghost, Thundercats, and Thundarr to Ben 10 and Generator Rex. Now that they've consolidated with Paramount it might be the only way alot of those characters stand out in any meaningful way.
>>153982770Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel are the only Cartoon Cartoons that are fully Hanna-Barbera since they were produced by the studio in their entirety. They weren't featured in CN City because of this. Dexter went from HB to Cartoon Network Studios in the 2000s.
>>153982907That explains it
>>153981079Tastes changing isn't really historical revisionism. Rob Liefeld was super popular until he wasn't, is that revisionism too?
>>153983468None of the actual people involved on the show's production dislikes it after all these decades, just retarded e-celebs and zoomers who didn't watch it when it aired. >Tastes changing isn't really historical revisionism.It is if they say it was never well-received or popular, that's blatantly false.
>>153983468What if they prefer it over modern CN like Craig of the Creek or Tig N Seek? LOL! Kill yourself.
>>153973687>krunk write letters to she-thing but krunk can't write>it okay >she-thing can't readI used to quote the "she-thing can't read" line to my ex, who is a writer. She would laugh about it and screech back painfully "I CAN REEEEEAD!"
>>153980842>which later spun off into Droopy, Master DectectiveWhich itself later spun off into the Blade Runner sequel with Ryan Gosling as Droopy.
>>153981972The people behind Looney Tunes Cartoons made a new Droopy short years ago but WB hasn't released it.
>tfw Mike Lazzo couldn't understand I Am Weasel purely because ""Baboons and weasels don't interact in the wild." and had to be convinced by David Feiss to get it madeWhat a moron, kids doesn't give a shit about accurate animal pairings. And even then he was wrong considering it was loosely based on Pop Goes the Weasel
>>153985940Fuck, the damn theme song is a parody of the nursery rhyme. How much more clear does it have to get?
>>153985940This is the same Lazzo that canceled Moral Orel because it was "too dark", correct? What a pussy!
>>153985972That was a mistake on his part, but lets be honest, he a better executive than anyone at CN. No, I don't care that he didn't like Johnny Bravo, that show hated men anyway.
>>153986174I wonder if "Lazlo" was named after him. A fun nod if that's the case.
>>153964090Japan did it too, pic related.
>>153986174He sabotaged Johnny Bravo purely because Kirk Tingblad and his crew came from Warner Bros. Based on this and Weasel, it seems that he doesn't care about the content of the shows and just seems to dislike the people in charge. Meanwhile, he was biased towards Genndy and Craig. He also changed Robot Jones' voice.
>>153986174The best CN executive was Linda Simensky. Its no coincidence the network started to suck after she left in 2003.
>>153976138Uh, no?, huh huh huh huh, people are like, lazy and stupid to work, huh hu huh
>>153986790>Famicom is hereFuck this, abandon thread.
>>153987156Johnny Bravo season 1 is decent but some of the episodes were whatever. Season 2-3 was way better. He made the right choice. Fast paced and slapstick Johnny Bravo is better than season 1 slow and dialogue-driven Johnny Bravo. The show needed better people to punch up the show.
>>153964669no home media releases
>>153976138tons of cartoons made for syndication would dump 65 half hours in one year. oftentimes in one season, as they were made to be shown daily. CN was abnormal among its peershe-mangi joeinspector gadgetducktalesdarkwing duck
>>153989522>Johnny Bravo season 1 is decent but some of the episodes were whatever.Partible seasons had more heart and character moments during the Tingblad seasons they kind of turn Johnny into Jerk Ass Homer at the end and it was like the humor relied on his stupidity
>>153964090Lol I dunno
>>153989522Can you even read dumbass? Lazzo sabotaged the retooled version, not season 1.
>>153982907This is also why they got HD, logoless remasters
>>153982422lurk moar fgthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGbhJjXl9Rk
>>153982907Do you think David Feiss is mad that Billy and Mandy, a show created by his former employee Maxwell Atoms ended up becoming more successful than his own cartoons?
>>153994760That's a huge stretch, he worked on both Open Season AND Hitpig. Fiess is doing alright.
>>153990052S1 Johnny could have used a couple more recurring cast members beyond his mom and Suzy, which Partible was going to take into account for his version of Season 2 before being unceremoniously sacked.
>>153992561>watermelon emoji>opinion disagreed
>>153994760Atoms hasn’t had a steady job in years, now he’s just uploading YouTube videos.
Does anyone remember when Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel split up they just aired a bunch of random episodes stitched together? These are not from the same season production.
>>153966244All of dexter was kino until savino took over
