Why is the blatant ripoff more popular and famous than the OG?Name one thing Batman does better than the Shadow.
>>153967654Nice cope.
The Shadow is not that popular anymore because he's been stuck with shitty Dynamite as his publisher. Maybe DC should buy Shadow and integrate him back into the main DC universe.
>>153967654Fuck off, Razorfist.
>>153967654Batman killed pulp heroes by doing what they did but better.He perfected it to the point that they just kinda became irrelevant, any new hero would have to take inspiration from Batman directly.
>>153967654>Why is the blatant ripoff more popular and famous than the OG?simple pulp magazines were dead and the comics code, there's not really any point in a Shadow who doesn't kill
>>153967890>by doing what they did but better.lmao Batman won't even kill the Joker he's isn't better than shit
>>153967859Razorfist is retarded because he thinks witcher is an Elric ripoff when they're very different. Batman actually is pretty similar to the shadow.
>>153967654I think people just don't really know what to do with the shadow while Batman has like twenty different villains and the 1989 movie really helped establish a formula for the character.
>>153967654>Why is the blatant ripoff more popular and famous than the OG?Because the retards who own the IP didn't let Sam Raimi make The Shadow movie he pitched so he went and made Darkman instead which was a better The Shadow movie than the actual The Shadow movie
>>153971716>Razorfist is retarded because he thinks witcher is an Elric ripoff when they're very different.White Wolf
>>153971526Wrong
>>153971948Last I checked the main character of the witcher isn't the same guy reincarnated dozens of time and he isn't a eldren.
>>153967890/thread
>>153967654>ripoff>a vigilante cowboy>a modern black knight disguised as a gargoyle
>>153972191He's slightly incorrect. Batman, and by extension cape comics, didn't kill pulp heroes, pulp heroes and cape comics share the same genre but come from two different points in development.
>>153972230>a vigilante cowboyyou have no idea what you're talking about, the first few issues of Batman were literally direct ripoff of stories from The Shadow even some of the art was traced
>>153967654The Shadow isn't "universally accessible" in the same way a superhero is. He's a strange character because he's not a full-on pulp hero or a superhero. The Shadow exists in-between both eras, feeling more mythic and fairy-tale like than either of his counterparts. He does have his successors, though. Japan really liked The Shadow though, mainly because they're obsessed with Dracula and any overseas hero who even slightly resembles him. The movie even had some exclusive promotional material to Japan. I'm convinced at this point that the movie inspired Hellsing and Gungrave: at the very least, someone at Toei was a fan and referenced it in YGO twice.
>>153967654They're not even comparable characters, because the Shadow kills a ton of dudes and carries 2 guns, which is 2 x infinity more guns than Batman carries.
>>153972515>feeling more mythic and fairy-tale likeThis is a large part of the appeal of The Shadow. Batman does not have that at all. Actually Batman is closer in some ways to the radio Lamon Cranston character, in that we see what Shadow and his friend and companion Margo Lane are up to all the time. I like the mystery of the Shadow
>>153972515That being said, you could make the character more "universally accessible" since the bones are there:>the pulps establish that the Shadow can be identified by whoever wears the signet ring, implying some kind of legacy or passing of the torch (it's implied the Shadow has existed before Kent Allard and WW2)>a re-imagining could turn the Signet ring into something of a toku hero/magical girl transformation, acting as a source/medium of his psychic powers>rip off Hellsing: turn Harry into a girl and make him into The Shadow's protege/apprentice, crank up the sexual tension with Margo, and have it be a Monster of the Week thing (you'd have to rip off The Spider and James Bond but it's not like the pulps DIDN'T do that)
>>153971526Joker is a better villain than any Shadiw villain which is why he’s too valuable to kill.
>>153967654Capeshit is entirely held up by the Comics Code killing all the other genres back in the day and sleazy jewish marketing tactics
>>153972612You'd be interested to know that earlier drafts of the movie likely borrowed aspects of whatever Raimi would later use for the Green Goblin in Spider-Man, with Lamont speaking to The Shadow as a separate individual/hallucination, to the point of Margo questioning if she too is somehow ALSO the Shadow.>>153972634I'm kinda surprised that no one's really mentioned the Shadow parallels with Absolute Joker at this point.>multiple identities, his face constantly changes>vast information network at his disposal>psychologically fucks up his enemies, tries to buy out people, rescues people and turns them into followers>wealthy man about town>Nephilim/devil imagery
The problem with "The Shadow" is that he's cringe. The name is cringe and he just looks like a jew or an Italian monster with a red scarf and a big hat.
>>153972648>Capeshit is entirely held up by the Comics Code killing all the other genresPlease do more research than just regurgitating fourth hand knowledge.
>>153972901but anon, scarves and big hats are cool, just look at Kamen Rider or Carmen Sandiego. even big noses can be appealing, look at Gruhe's not even Jewish or Italian btw, he's French (or at least, Lamont Cranston is), hence the nosehow can you say THE SHADOW is cringe when Batman is a far cringier name? the guy runs around as a creepy little dog with wings, what a freak! Batman's always gotta deal with the gay pedo allegations, now that's cringe
>>153972972maybe you should follow your own advice retard, capeshit was seriously losing steam post WWII before the Comics Code saved their sorry ass
>>153967654Because Batman is a rip off of not one pulp hero, but threeThe thinker with the pfysical might, the chemist with the perfect disguise, and the mystic with the martial arts. All three had contacts and wealth, as well as skillsets beyond human reckoning individually, but together, they became an unstoppable monster
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>>153974436He ripped EVERY pulp hero>Zorro >The Shadow >The Phantom>Doc Savage>The Bat>Dick Tracy>Tarzan>The Spider>The Green Hornet
>>153974500Still missed the Avenger - that silver guy there. He was a chemist, a nervous shock made his face immovable but malleable, so he could craft perfect disguises every time.
>>153974520As far as I know, I don't think the Avenger inspired Batman. Was there any influence on Batman? I'm curious.
>>153974447Just noticed that the three make up the colors of the Magnum Opus process, the creation of the Philosopher's Stone. Black, Red, White, and Gold!I feel like Morrison would do something with that.
>>153974558The Chemistry Expert, and also The Disguise Expert - Batman was big on both in the Detective Comic back when. The Batmobile was entirely based on his car.https://comicvine.gamespot.com/the-avenger/4005-51424/
>>153974662oh damn, that's awesome! That's another character to the list, then.
>>153974662Correction - The Avenger was a gadgeteer, with chemistry as a sideline. Did more inventing than Doc Smith, which is saying something.
>>153971716>>153967859>>153967654Reminder Razorfist had a recent mental breakdown over Zorro being more popular than Solomon Kane because Zorro a canon catholic and people calling him out for think Solomon Kane a pro-Christian character when the Robert E Howard books made it clear only Lovecraftian monsters and pagan gods exist.
>>153975016It’s even worse. Only the movie which was written by a literal tranny had biblical demons in a Solomon Kane story. Than again Razorfist block people for calling him out for giving BG3 a free pass for woke shit.
>>153975016Why even get upset over that? They're both pulp, they're both Christian, they both got movies.Some people just can't have fun.
>>153967859>>153975016I can tell this is some e-celeb nonsense so can you people get a life and fuck off with that shit
>>153967859>>153971716>>153975016No one wants to see your e-celeb hate boner faggot. Put it back in your pants.
>>153975095But anon, how else are they going to feel better about themselves?
>>153975016Nice fiction there bucko. have your considered selling it to Dynamite?
>>153967831>because he's been stuck with shitty Dynamite as his publisherThat would explain why he's not as well known. I imagine Batman was helped a lot by his TV ventures as well.
>>153967654>Name one thing Batman does better than the Shadow.Make money?
>>153975116>>153975095>>153975075>>153975134>>153975095>>153975075>Faggots are trying to damage control Groomerfist of all people on /co/Kek. He’s the second biggest faggot grifter in comic gate.
>>153975822>obsessing over ecelebsKiwifarms is that way, buddy.
>>153975822>>153975477>>153967859>>153971716Fuck off woke.
>>153975822I have no idea who that guy is, but what am I meant to be seeing in that picture?
>>153975845We know it’s you spamming the site with pro-quartering threads Razorfist.
>>153975868I'm not one of your ecelebs, faggot.
>>153975863He buddies up to the quartering, and before that he was made fun of for saying French comics outsell manga.
Btw, I think The Shadow is in the public domain, so even trademarks are a bitch, there's literally nothing stopping you from just making something yourself with him
>>153975882Okay, but what does that have to do with anything in that picture?Wouldn't it make more sense to just post a picture of him doing that instead?
>>153975822why is it so hard for you zoomers to understand that /co/ isn't kiwifarms
>>153967654>People call out Razorfist for making the thread>Muh kiwifoxdicksFuck off Danny.
>>153967831>The Shadow is not that popular anymore because he's been stuck with shitty Dynamite as his publisher.Dynamite hasn't had the license for almost eight years, anon.
>>153976228>People call out Razorfist for making the threadand you know this how, seriously go back to kiwifarms you retarded schizo
>>153975016Solomon Kane is a Puritan. Dumb faggot
>>153967654He has a cooler suit.
