Who was in the wrong here?
>>153977508>Who was in the wrong here?Perilaus.
>>153977508The artist who forgot how the Bronze Bull works.The air inside is supposed to get so hot that they are forced to use a tube to get fresh air from the outside which is connected to the Bull's mouth and comes out as a mooing sound. It's a torture device meant to bring entertainment to people outside the Bull as they laugh and mock the guttural lowing this inanimate object is producing while killing the men inside it.
>>153977562>Holy shit dude I asked for a painful execution method but that's sadistic, kill his ass he's clearly more dangerous aliveNever fails to crack me up
>>153977508Im more interested in knowing who drew it.
>>153977508Has anyone built a brass bull to see if it would work?Even just the moo-making part, not the whole kit-and-kaboodle.
>>153977562>named Perilaus>put in perilaus situationpottery
>>153978484It's basically just using the same principles as a brass horn, there's no reason to assume it wouldn't work really.
>>153978670Brass instruments dont just work (tm), you need the lips to vibrate to create the vibration, otherwise there's no sound. That's why brass instruments cant play as high as flutes or clarinets either, they're limited by the resonant frequencies of human lips.
>>153978436https://x.com/beashidumb/status/2060839583219355675
>>153977508You know an actually really funny gag with this would be if the bull just went "huh huh huh huh" instead of its usual sounds.
>>153978882Thankyu
>>153978761From what I understand, it's basically meant to function be the screams going through a series of pipes that changes the pitch of the sound, and combines them, and then mixes them with the sound reverberating through the hollow bull itself to create a bull roar like sound.The device does work on paper, but I don't know if anyone has actually tried to figure out the right configuration needed, and as far as I know, the actual story is considered a myth.
>actual discussion about how Brass Bulls workHoly fucking reddit!
>>153979072Would you be happier if we discussed Daedalus's fake Cretan Bull instead?
>>153979072Fuck of newfag. If you dont want to learn or discuss anything head back to whichever social media platform you came from.>>153978484Brass costs between $5-$7 per kg and the brass bull statue of wall street weighs about 3,200 kg so to try this little experiment out would cost anywhere from $15,000 to $22,000.
>>153979331>the brass bull statue of wall streetThey should put the little girl statue in it and start a fire beneath the bull.More seriously, is that little girl statue still a thing?
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>>153979394>More seriously, is that little girl statue still a thing?Don't know, but it is by far one of the funniest statues in the US.Literally a monument to suicidal hubris.
>>153979394Id forgotten about that but yeah its still there. Read the wikipedia article on the fearless girl statue it's pretty wild.>commissioned by an imvestment firm>artist made three other copies of it>as of 2025 the imvestment company has backed away from DEI issues and initiatives.Its odd to think that most statues like this arent even part of some government plot but rather just stupid crap that rich people commission on a whim for no good reason. The girl was put up in 2017 and the bull in 1989. So neither of them is even that old.
>>153979331How much would it cost to hollow out the existing statue and shove Rupert Murdoch in it?
>>153979513I think its already mostly hollow but you'd need an acetylene torch to cut an opening into it.
>>153979451>>153979482Someone should put cat eats to the little girl.
>>153978246The fuck is this Batman villain bullshit?
>>153979482>imvestmentInvestment, it is spelled Investment
>>153978484>>153979041I think it would make 'aaaahhhh fuck this hurts ahhhhh nooo aiiiieeeeeee fuuuuck youuuu' noises, and the joke from observers, who are not being brutally murdered, would be 'weird, why the cow not make moo noises lol'.
>>153979551My phone screen is going bad and constantly misselects to the right. I used to go back and proofread all my stuff before posting but it gets tiresome.
>>153977508Is this a fetish? I feel like this is a fetish.
>>153978670>>153978761Could it function as a pipe organ? Brass pipes and brass reed(s) creating the sound, but not technically "brass instrument"? Seems more likely most of the airflow would be from the fire than a breathing pipe... but it could be designed so it's muted if using the breathing pipe doesn't open a valve, or so it changes the pitch?
>>153979547people pre-civilisation seem so used to death. it's strange but i guess it's good we find that alien now.
>>153979041You could distort it, but i dont see how you change the pitch except maybe by resonance>>153981667A pipe organ is an interesting exception because it doesnt have a reed, it has a fipple. Basically the air is it's own reed, but that's just like screaming into a recorder or a saxaphone- you need a consistent laminar flow to create a stable turbulence pattern over the wedge or reed to make the sound. For a guy in a colume breathing or creaming he'll only minorly change the pressure inside the bull and that wont translate to a flow through the pipes, just him rebreathing his own stale air. His breath will be like 40+bpm, but to use his breath as the oscilation you'd need 800m of pipe and it would produce infrasound
>>153979678It's the curse of canaan. Normally babies would be thrown into a brazen bull and burned alive.
>>153982818You can change the pitch of a sound by changing the size, depth and shape of the of the holes/pipes it has to travel through. Wider holes allows for more of the natural sound to exit, while narrower ones traps more of the sound inside, and the shape can be stuff like "megaphoning" it through funnel shapes. Combined the sound would be distorted, though I have my doubt on how naturally bull-like it would actually sound, or if it would sound more like weirdly distorted/muffled human screaming.
>>153978371>Let's use what he made for it!
>>153981730It's worth remembering that for most of history the total fertility rate was about 5 but the effective fertility rate was closer to 2 because of how many people died before turning 5. People grew up seeing death from a very young age and it probably affected their psychology pretty hard.
>>153977508Whoever commissioned it
>>153983399If you managed to make it past early childhood your odds were relatively good though. I think if anything this just made people not get too attached to babies.
>>153979331That's a casting several times life-size though, about 5-8mm thick. The original if it existed could've theoretically been managed with thinner heavy gauge sheet brass and only needed to be life-size or slightly larger to accommodate a person.
>>153981730Everyone back then presumably had some sort of belief in the afterlife so to them, killing someone didn't necessarily mean terminating their existence, but now our current understanding of the human brain and consciousness requires us to value human life more
>>153983399>>153983519When you look at older texts where parents mourn their children, losing a young child is tragic, but losing a teen/adult is devastating.The loss of a young child is sad, but was almost expected to happen to someone at least once, and for many multiple times. It's almost a natural death.But to lose an older child was to lose the one who did beat the "natural death". It's far more abrupt and "unnatural".
>>153983779Spirituality and religion are still a thing
>>153983779that's true, easier to be ok with being tortured by the enemy if you get to go to paradise afterwards
>>153977508Who put them in the brass bull?
>>153984106Yeah but Science basically made humanity atleast stop and consider the slight remote possibility that death may actually be the end because what evidence would they have had back then that consciousness didn't continue past death?
>>153981730>pre-civilization
>>153984248What? They saw a dead inert body the same way we see one today. The afterlife aspect has little to do with science, if you believe in the afterlife you won't believe it more or less after some nerds tell you that akshtually they looked into how the brain works and they think they got consciousness all figured out (they don't but that's another debate). Basically it's a mix of cope and acceptation of one's mortal condition.The rise of the belief there is no afterlife or materialism has more to do with societal factors like the pushback of mainstream religion and the subsequent lesser role religion has in modern society than any progress in science.
>>153984239jews
>>153983779Right because the afterlife is real its not a delusion thought up by simpletons we have advanced beyond with smartphones. The brain is not the source of consciousness. It has been over a hundred years now of nothing but "Its all synapses and neurons. Theres too many to map and count but its in there. Just two more weeks and we will have them all mapped. Two more weeks...trust the plan...." and this is going to keep being the cope until were all dead. Its very convenient because you will explain it away as "The problem of consciousness" make some kinda philosophical framework around it, while simultaneously calling religious people delusional. Youre already half way there "There is no soul so we must value human life more guyz" this clearly doesnt work in practice but boy does it make you sound pragmatic and empathetic.
>>153983797Little Erotion denier
The Duke of Zhou was using his anti-human-sacrifice platform as political propaganda against the Shang in 1000 BC.
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