Caution, you face TUUUUUUURRRRRNBUCKLE! My punch is devastating!
Come then, organic! Test your mettle against my metal, IN THE GLORIOUS NAME OF MEGATRON!
>>153980238>>153980367
>>153980238STEP! AWAY! FROM THE! TOAST!
>>153982863YOU HUNGER FOR IT
Didn't turnbuckle end up getting pistol whipped to death. That had to hurt.
>>153980238>>153980367>>153981422>>153982889>>153982863That's it! I'M GETTING ME MALLET!
>>153983194It was devastating
>>153983194Yeah, it was just a brutal ass kicking.
>>153983194It was so devastating, that the Guild and OSI drew up proportional response protocols.
>>153983462I love the rules of that universe.
>>153983194It wasn't the pistol whipping that killed him. The Action Man put a bullet in his brain for saying "Kiss my ass" afterwards.
>>153983551Action Man, take it down a notch
>>153980238Was this like... Actually intended to be funny? The guy thinking he was able to arch Jonas with nothing but his fists and The Monarch's narration doesn't seem all that serious but I didn't think it was all that humourous. And the actual pistol whipping, Rusty's reaction to it and The Action Man's decision to just shoot him in the head just for uttering one final insult is not funny, it's just disturbing.
>>153983909A guy acting like a cheesy silver age villain and being met with realistic violence is absolutely funny. It's just not laugh out loud funny because it's still a scene meant to explain something about the world first and foremost.
>>153983909It's so over the top.
>>153983909Everyone's humor is different. I found it funny because it reminded me of the many superhero fights where the antagonist is beyond outmatched, like Condiment King vs Batman or Hypo Hustler vs Spider-Man.Plus Turnbuckle amused the shit out of me, especially with the vaudeville piano tune they gave him to make it clear he's walking into this with the exact wrong mindset that's going to get him killed.
>>153983909Its called black comedy, Anon.
>>153982863KISS MY ASS
>>153983909It's the juxtaposition of a wacky Silver Age supervillain getting beaten in a brutal way. It's like sending Frank Gorshin's Riddler and his over the top schemes against the Punisher or one of the darker Batmen.
>>153983764He foamed at the mouth from super soldier benzedrine, that was already him showing personal restraint.
>>153985217I'M NOT GONNA KISS YOUR ASS!
Brick Frog!
>>153985217Monarch: Click.
/co/ am I bad person?
>>153987314...Ehhh...
>>153983909>Was this like... Actually intended to be funny?Funny in the JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE IS A PYSCHO god damn if he just pistol whipped someone to death for this what else has he done for lesser transgressions It was the fact he beat a man to death for something so petty thats funny a worriedheavylaughing.gif funny, not LULZ SENSELESS VIOLENCE BASED AND REDPILLED NOW SKIN HIM ALIVE AND POP OUT HIS EYES KEKEKEK reddit tier funny
>>153985524>It's the juxtaposition of a wacky Silver Age supervillain getting beaten in a brutal way.This guy gets it. Venture Bros was always sending up stuff like that.
>>153983481Right?For years it sounded like it was a marketing gimmick, and we're wondering why anyone deliberately signs up with the guild to GET a villain, like Orpheus wanted to... if it was really enough that they just.. would take the territory that would otherwise fill with randos (and the Peril Partnership), who may not play by the rules? But then we see that this kinda goes beyond money, this is essentially a treaty they have with the (secret) US Government. the Guild gets to do their thing because they are basically like native americans or amish, with their own sovereignty to dress funny and commit crimes.
>>153985633Eat the ass quiz boy
>>153980238It's really over isn't it? I guess I should finally watch that movie.
>>153983909It's meant to make you go "oh yeah, why DOESN'T the Punisher fight Paste-Pot Pete? I never thought of that before"You're taking it too seriously, like it really happened. It's meant to make you step back and go 'fiction is stupid haha'
>>153988443it was good! Not as good as a full season would have been, but good.
>>153988443>It's really over isn't it?It seems highly unlikely to come back.
>>153988501over in the The Tick thread, we were suggesting Dock and Jackson should really just head a new Tick show, with Edlund as their executive producer or whatever he's comfortable with at his age.It's not the same, but it could be amazing. and if it decided to, say, carry on from the amazon show? I wouldn't complain about that.
>>153983909>>153988446This. It's meant to sct as the worst case scenario. The story wouldn't work if Turnbuckle was beat up, and continued doing the same shit the next day. He fucked around and found out got dead.
>>153988618and to think, this is a show that first broached this subject with>Monarch has the family tied up, threatening to dunk them into the Amazon where the DREADED CANDIRU will soon work its infiltrative dark magic on their urethrae>But Dean has a sudden pain, so they have to call time out, because it's the rules. And then he has to go get medical treatment for what turns out to be testicular torsionthat's how they introduced it, and this Turnbuckle story is how they finally showed us why these rules started, like 13 years later in production time. Fuckin... absolutely one of a kind.
>>153988426BILLY EAT THE ASS!
>>153988751They also reference it in season 2 with the Guild onboarding video sent to Orpheus explaining the benefits of working within their system and not having to deal with mismatched aggression and inappropriate behavior.
>>153988446>"oh yeah, why DOESN'T the Punisher fight Paste-Pot Pete?That scenario happened when stilts man tried to fight punisher
>>153988890yeah, candiru was bringing it up, the video was showing us how goofily seriously they take it, and how hokily they advertise it, and after we laugh and laugh for years, turnbuckle shows us why these people take this shit we're laughing at so seriously. Fucking brilliant.>>153988897God damn. Stilt-man. that's a deep cut. I could actually see someone doing a reimagined super cool version of him, where he's a guy in a tech suit that's like... power loader up top, techno scissor-crane Bayformer down below, with super extendo legs that let him prowl around like a fucking... secretary bird, and reach into high windows to steal shitBut nobody does because it's funnier that he's this silver age footnote that's still around.
>>153988446Because the Punisher would lose like when Shocker defeated Frank lmao
>>153988897he got better
>>153983909It's basically a lesson on why low-level villains like Calendar Man or Condiment King don't up the ante and go after high profile characters like Superman. It's just that Jonas and his friends are all fucking psychopaths. I think out of all of them Kano is the only one who's relatively normal and well adjusted.
>>153989677psychopath is pushing it, but I'd say they're roughly equidistant between psychopathy and the "Hey, it was the 60s, guys were just like that" liberal talkingpoint.drunk on power and taking various other drugs like fucking crazy, giving zero shits about consequences because they don't have any. But still telling themselves they're doing good, and being right part of the time.
>Jonas couldn't solve the balding issue in clones>Doc did though and kept his boys humanIts a real shame the show didn't give Doc more moments and instead Monarch wanked for the last 3 seasons, it was clear he had more potential than his Father.
>>153989713Yeah threw that away when they had him join the illuminatiI still don't get if he's in it or not
>>153989713I figured Rusty's true skills, between the cloning, Spanish Fly serum, and Venturstein, was in biotech.
>>153989729There is no illuminati, he got punked by the osi
>>153989677>SupermanBecause they'd be disarmed in the middle of a police station before they finished saying their name. Superman is nice and enough that I bet 2s would fuck with him all day just to say they went to the big league and lived.
>>153989713>Jonas couldn't solve the balding issue in clonesHe did though.>Doc did though and kept his boys humanHe didn't do shit. Why do people think he had a hand in the cloning tech? Jonas and Ben finished it before Jonas died and Rusty inherited the finished product. Nowhere does it say he worked on it. Nothing even implies it.>>153989752>Spanish Fly serumThat didn't even work though. All the escorts got turned into fly monsters.
>>153988964It's also in season 3 where Brock is explaining it to JJ>"These guys like their system. It's what they do. You take that away, and you are lookin' at a bunch of pissed-off nutbags with ray guns and giant...I don't know, a giant octopus-slash-tank with laser eyes."
>>153989804Fair enough, but one can spin that to make an army of bug men
>>153989756So where does he think the money is coming from?
>>153983194Like tent peg>>153980238*Click*
>>153989713It sounded to me like Ben and Jonas are the ones who solved the balding issue in clones.>>153989752Yeah that tracks. But in fairness, the cloning tech he inherited. More special is the, ahem, the ending. I don't wanna spoil it.>>153989804Ehhh, in science there are no failures, only learning opportunities. Rusty learned how to make fly monsters. He has also learned how to make hulks, four-armed psychics, staticky ghosts, all kinds of shit.
>>153989833I loved that scene. I felt for JJ but he really wasn't getting it.It's crazy how okay with losing the Monarch is. He hates Rusty so much and wants everyone to think he's a loser, but his plans always consist of cackle-and-lose.
>>153989867that plot point pissed me off so hard. Really? the OSI is interested in "keeping the global peace" by leaving oil in the hands of murderous sheikhs and their armies of loyal terrorists? In what universe is that the best option? "oh no they'll get mad if their oil no longer buys them safety" GOOD. let them.
>>153990115what are OSI meant to do, run out of rockets at them
>>153990133laugh at them while they impotently attempt to lash out at the world without any oil money to back it up, and then go back to the previous global status quo. Literally anything they could do about it, they are already doing, frequently.
>>153990090>how to make hulks, four-armed psychics,Indirectly thanks to him cutting corners for safety and deadlines, but still on point. >Movie Yeah, what he did supports my line of thought.
>>153990090>Rusty learned how to make fly monstersArguably.>He has also learned how to make hulks, four-armed psychics, staticky ghostsNo? Like, the ray-shield wasn't even his. The Palaemon interns designed and developed the shield for him. If anything, the mutations are their credit, not his. His fault was just not providing a safer working space.
>>153990115What the fuck are you even talking about?Someone missed the scene at the end of that episode where it turns out that the OSI had Doctor Venture hooked to a VR machine and was just brainwashing him to make sure he didn't make the teleporter public.And then someone asks 'where the money' is coming from. What money? And then you ask about why the OSI isn't stopping "Sheikhs" and their "armies of loyal terrorists".What the fuck are you talking about?
>>153990258Rusty is the absolute poster child of stumbling ass-backwards into success. It's hilarious since he's also the personification of failure. Only instead of Sauron's "I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs" it's "I don't want to turn people into dinosaurs, I want to cure cancer">>153990265Look, I didn't say he came up with it. I said he learned it. He's a salvager. Ever since he salvaged some reproductive material. That's still science. He's an Edison with delusions of Tesla.>>153990287Their motivation for doing this is that Rusty's device would eliminate the need for oil, suddenly making the arab oil barons poor, and that they would destroy the world somehow.They tried asking him first, then he refused, so they gave him the VR fantasy.
>>153990287>>153990296oh and>what money?The VR simulation is of Rusty agreeing not to sell his teleporter, in exchange for huge amounts of money (and all the orphan sushi he can eat) from the Illuminati (the creepier and dangerous aspects of their parties are meant to dissuade him from trying to go to another, see)But we see later that he's still fucked financially.
>>153990296>Look, I didn't say he came up with it. I said he learned itI know. My response was appropriate. He didn't learn to do those things because he didn't work on them and there's no data on them. He mostly just lounged while the Toms pampered him and he'd just occasionally check on the development progress. He didn't learn the tech because it was all done for him and when it was completed and the interns were mutated back with some amnesia, the knowledge was lost. Rusty can't reproduce those results again because the recipe is erased from the interns' minds.
>>153990234go home Mr Secretary of War, you're drunk
>>153990383>no dataall he has to do is...well JJ sent him the data, right? In the first place. That's what the team was working on. So the instructions are clear. JJ's data + absolutely zero safety protocols = mutants so predictably consistent that they actually formed tribes.Iunno maybe I'm wrong>>153990413Okay.. clever response that compares you to a guy who collaborates with the enemy and gives them money in exchange for perceived safety.
>>153983909>is not funny, it's just disturbing.Let's face it, comedy is a dead art form. Now, tragedy... That's funny.
>>153990496>well JJ sent him the data, right?No. As far as what can be discerned from the episode Rusty just agreed to make a ray-shield for Gargantua-2. Neither JJ or Rusty designed the shield. It was 100% the interns' design. When they were mutated back and lost their memories of the three months of their internship, the specs for the shield were lost.And even if there was recorded data, that also is double lost when the venture compound burned down because EVERYTHING short of Ben's house got hit by the fire.
>>153990785huh, okay. I need to watch that special again (I always get all mixed up since that's the part of the show where you're meant to stop one episode partway along and watch the halloween special before resuming), I thought he was like "Rusty, how are you doing with those blueprints I sent you"Also yeah I guess even if I'm right, Gargantua-2 would be the only logical place for the specs (or something to reverse-engineer) to still be, and THAT'S no good anymore, so.. I suppose it's not looking great for future mutants. But he at least knows badly constructed ray-shields can make them. That's the beginning of science! That's the Ben Franklin's Key in a Jar that Became the Lightbulb yknow
>>153990898> I need to watch that special againIt was the first episode of season 5, actually. What Color is Your Cleansuit.>suppose it's not looking great for future mutants.I like to think, assuming he actually IS from the future, that Brainulo is a descendant of one or more of the white cleansuit interns. Just without the extra arms.
>>153991025>episodewell it was at least a special length>BrainuloHmmmm maybe. Or at least, similar radiation did it.Yeah now that I think about it more, JJ was obviously trying to outsource the DESIGN project, not just GIVE him existing designs. I guess I just felt like he was throwing Rusty a job, y'know. Here do this thing I could do myself, but here's a few bucks. but naw.
>>153980238Venture Bros lore is so layered and thoroughly mapped out that it makes my head spin just thinkin about it
>>153983909If you didn't laugh, you might have autism and homosexuality.
>>153991189and to think, they basically did it like a speedpainting. Just roughing out the vagueries first, and filling stuff in later.
>>153980238You'd think a pro fighter would use his own name instead of a generalized reference to boxing, right? So is this a local gym owner or a guy teaching at the YMCA trying to make a change after his wife took the kids?
>>153991383Yeah I doubt he's an actual boxer who moonlights as a boxing-themed villain. He's deliberately evoking a boxing style that was like 30+ years out of date by this time, right? I'd believe your backstory proposal.
>>153988519you know what doc and jackson should do? revisit their idea of making the venture bros a comic book like they originally thought of.
>>153991672it wouldn't be the same without their voices, but I'd read it. Shit, I'd pay upwards of 5 dollars an issue.
>>153992095I mean audio book readings are a thing.also yeah I'd totally do that too.
>>153992221... holy hell imagine if they did like .. remember those flash video comics where each word bubble kinda just pops in as you click along, and yknow do that with audio readings. holy shit.I cant imagine there being a proper budget for that, though. Even just comic+audio track you can download.. We might as well expect them to do like an Epithet Erased kinda deal
>>153988784I look like this
>>153992316are you an ahlbino?
>>153992312the only issue I could see doing that is getting some of the big named guest voice actors back might be hard to do.I'm honestly shocked nobody has ever made any fan comics to fill the void or anything at least in part inspired by venture bros.
>>153992440Who would ever feel worthy? This isn't some "well they originally had like a dozen writers and I think I'm better than at least 2 or 3 of them" no, the two of them wrote every single fucking episode, except one Ben fucking Edlund wrote. it's not easy. You wanna see how much fanwork I've done with Venture Bros? This. This for an old "Red ___ standing by" thread on /co/. God those were the days.I like to think I wrote 'in their voices' okay, but trying to write a storyline is nutso.>at least in part inspiredoh okay, well, same kinda deal. hard to live up to. There's a lot of webcomics with satirical takes on hero stuff. Golf Girl comes to mind. but..
>>153989804Remember, Monarch has baboon DNA to cure the baldness but it makes him constantly agressive. The venture brothers obviously don't have that issue, and also don't forget that Rusty cloned multiple people throughout the series and even fixed their DNA if they had cancers or genetic defects.
>>153992466Yeah it'd be really hard to do something of that caliber well again, venture really is/was a lightning in a bottle moment.I mean where would anyone even start to make a parody with that much love and care put into it? most parodies tend to just laugh at things at face value or deconstruct them while venture is more then that, it feels like they want you to care about the characters and world building, making the world fantastical but also believable unlike most parody cartoons who usually only make fun of something, like alot of those types of things feel like they are insecure for liking things so it ends up just being purely cynical where venture shows the good, the bad and the ugly.to use the creators words "it's like an old love letter you find hidden in the walls of a house and you get invested into the story"
>>153992426No but i look like a faggot. Not gay btw
>>153989713>Doc solved the balding issueNo he didn't. There was an entire episode where Dean starts going bald. Hank probably also started but it wasn't as impactful to him or something.
>>153990324The Illuminati wasn't real, anon, it was all part of the sim.
>>153988424>They are basically like native americans or amishIt's more like they are old money/pre-WW2 powers that still have enough pull to be a menace if required, but are satisfied being allowed to keep their luxuries/titles as long as they are shown proper "respect". It also fits since super villainy seemed to be on an overall decline just like super science for most of the show.
>>153989084Shocker is a proper criminal, however. His whole gimmick is that he uses "non-lethal" weapons and only does petty crimes like bank robberies and stealing from trucks because he knows it will get him softer convictions and less time in jail.He'd know about the punisher and have a contigency plan, since he'd be doing his best to not cross any lines that would lead the punisher into going after him specifically.
