no one gives a fuck stop rewriting history your shit webcomic will never be remembered nor is it unique in anyway shape or form.
>>153980342I’ve always had a feeling that Homestuck was never anywhere as good as people outside it’s specific subcircle claimed
>>153980342The comic is pure boredom
>>153980963The phrase "you had to be there" applies insanely strongly to Homestuck, especially for the hype. It was well above average for a webcomic, but it always had flaws that just got really apparent once it hit that fifth story arc, for better or worse.
>>153980342I am glad Viv's involvement did not help this show at all.
>>153980342I'm gonna be real with you chief, practically nobody gave a fuck about homestuck even at its peak. It was just a ridiculously loud community of weirdos that made it seem bigger than it actually was.
>>153980342Homestuck suffered the fate of all cancerslop which is that it'll be remembered for it's retarded and awful fanbase and not the actual work itself. The same fate that befalls any work whose fanbase is primarily alt/edgy teenage and college age girls. It happened with Invader Zim, with Homestuck, with Voltron, will happen with Digital Circus and Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel and anything coming up in the future aimed at that audience.
>>153983458I barely see people talk about the Zim fan base, desu. It’s always around the show proper.
>>153984684Because it has passed enough time.
>>153984710That and Invader Zim’s fanbase’s most damaging thing was their obsession with the Robot.
agreed
It's old, dead, and the author killed all interest in it. Homestuck still HAD a chance to be big again. Hussie killed the hype. I'd be so sad if I was him because damn he missed out on a lot of money.
>>153980342Hamstink
>>153984684There is a direct line from Invader Zim fangirls to Homestuck fangirls to Indieslop fangirls.
>>153987208General rule of thumb. Something on the internet seems extremely popular but you aren't really seeing it talked about in a casual sense at all? It's because a very hardcore fandom were carrying the load of making something bigger than it was.It's something market researchers have to contend with these days. Social media is seemingly clamoring for a certain product or IP but you can dig in to the analytics and see that the engagement came from much smaller group than the hashtag itself and the rampant circlejerking made it look like it was some big hot thing.Its a big part of why you kept getting nostalgic Ip revival after nostalgic IP revival that no one watched in the late 10s in the post Deadpool movie leak landscape
What's homestuck?
>>153980342Homestuck was not only irrelevant for years before the pilot, but had actually lost a ton of reputation because Beyond Canon because a retarded joke at its own expense. And then when they finally did make the pilot, they let Vivzie do it and it was full of terrible, completely out of place, swear-laden dialog and terrible humor, on top of having awful pacing.
>>153980342The troll history and their infighting was interesting. Everything else was fucking garbage.
>>153985093Genuine question, how did the author killed the interest?Rhis coming from someone that never cared about this comic, can someone give me a QRD?
>>153980342It's extremely unique, there was and will never be anything like it ever again, and denying that is retarded.That doesn't mean it needs a show or to be part of a canon, or that the last part and post-huss period aren't all nuclear waste that should be buried in a landfill 100 miles away from water.
more like homeKEK! ha!
>>153988356He did a Kickstarter for a game and it went very sideways because he was completely out of his depth and what seemed like a lot of money was actually fuck all for the kind of project he was going forHe put the comic on hiatus for most of like 2 years, and then when it came back he couldn't match the expectationsAnd the ending was extremely stupid and unsatisfying. It's made worse by the fact that no ending could possibly have measured up after all the drama, but it's fully trash.Then he handed it off to Tumblr's most insane identity grifters and craziest trans shippers who turned it into an irretrievable fuckpile of pointless, out of character queer fractal
>>153980342Andrew? Andrew Hussie, is that you?Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.In short, you are an enormous failure.Andrew, being that you're about 35 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Comics, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.I genuinely doubt it.Now excuse me, I have to work on Undertale 2. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.
>>153988316t. LARPer who only read Act 5
>>153987476It's a bell curve, small groups of crazies and true mass saturation of weathervanes both create big cultural bubbles that burst the moment they're subject to pressure.The difference between the things that last and the things that don't isn't quality or penetration, but - somewhat obviously - persistence itself. If you drag something's corpse for forty years, it'll live long enough to be old and new at the same time. A thing that outlives you becomes a work of art. A thing that outlives everyone becomes a god.
I’ve never read Homestuck, only watched the pilot.But it’s my understanding that making a pilot was a pretty stupid fucking idea, because half of the appeal of Homestuck was that it was an interactive web experience that was more than simply a comic. Taking away the interactivity and literally ALL the stylistically unique elements in its art and storytelling just makes that whole experience so much fucking lamer. The pilot is instead just a stylistically weak cartoon where characters are constantly visualizing text boxes and verbally saying internet conversations for 20 minutes. The fight with the dad for example loses all context and completely misses the point because they got rid of the visual “gaming” elements that made that work in the webcomic.I think the pilot was like the equivalent of watching someone play a video game that you’d rather just be playing instead.
>>153991172If anything I think an animated series would at least be good to potentially attract a new audience to the web comic itself. I see it like with anime where people will get caught up and when there is nothing else to watch they go check out the manga to see what happens next. Also some people just don't want to read anything period and would rather watch a show instead. I doubt the show would do the web comic justice, but it would at least be nice to revive the fandom and make Homestuck relevant again. Though even if it did get the greenlight (it won't) I still have my doubts that it would be successful. Unfortunately I have come to accept that Homestuck's time has simply passed. I can dream though.
>>153980342As an older Zoomer that was part of the 2013 HS cohort, all the younger Zoomers I see talk about it mainly lump it in with stuff like Scene culture as this "the 2000s we never got to experience" type of media and don't acre about it beyond that extent.
>>153991172>>153991325For years I have held that the only way to make a Hoemstuck Show work is a hybrid Monogatari series style adaptation where they intersperse in weird symbolic shit that depicts how the characters are feeling while keeping the watchers attention for the miles of dialogue, and animations of podcast bits for the more absurd moments.Like the part where Davesprite talks down John from meeting his denizen is something you do Monogatari style, but stuff like the Monster Howie Mandel Apple Juice Piss bit gets a simplified down style animation depicting the hypothetical.
>>153991452Never watched Monogatari but I kinda wanna check it out now to understand what you're getting at.
>>153991452There are a bunch of stories in Homestuck that could stand as a short or special. Expand [S] Make Her Pay into an OVA. Do an ectobabies episode. The stuff that appealed to people is in there.
>>153980342>>153980963if we're talking in terms of quality, gaslight district framerate is actual trash. helluva boss does have funny moments, but let's be honest, zoomers only like super new shit so they can ride a trend. trenders aren't loyal fans, they just talk about things for the sake of interaction and social media traffic. homestuck starting 10 years ago isn't going to do it for some sheltered twerp with a recency bias
The official homestuck pilot has been already completely and utterly mogged in tone and delivery by a fan animation made almost completely by a single guyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuJuXD1U2b0
>>153992009I can appreciate all the effort this guy puts into his animations, but I really don't like the way the characters look.
>>153991612Gaslight has poor framerate it beats everything else in every other visual metric.
The comic (or at least the good bits of it) will be remembered on its own. The animated pilot was too little, too late. Also, it didn't really capture the essence of the comic, although that might be impossible for any adaptation.
>Homestuck was a thing for a brief moment in time 15 years agoI think the fans just don't get how much the landscape has changed since then. Huge indie animation teams regularly make actual series now, not comic strips on a slow as shit website. Gen A doesn't fucking read and Gen Z won't read more than five words in a row. Music has moved well beyond the stuff in the flash animations. It's the end of the webcomic as a medium.
>>153992009This is... interesting. On some level, this dude understands that a Homestuck animation needs a highly distinct visual style. On the other, I don't like his camerawork. There are a lot of really close and tight shots with constant movement, which gets almost disorienting after a while. The characters also aren't particularly expressive, and it's a little too reliant on directly adapting the pesterlog exchanges. It's not using the medium of animation to the fullest.Back on the positive side, the voice work is surprisingly good. And like I said earlier, there's lots of visual flair that I really love. Overall, I'd say this guy is... onto something. I'm not sure what, exactly, but it would be neat to see parts of this concept expanded upon.
>>153992009Creepy looking shit.
>>153980342>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwordsYou HAVE to realize that you sound like a parody when you do that.
>>153992328>On the other, I don't like his camerawork.I agree with this one in particular. It gave me a headache when I've first watched it, but at least it feels like it's gotten less terrible in the latter half of the episode
>>153980342>wait for the ripe old age of 12 years later to do a pilot to something that was already niche in its own right homestink, it's over
Because it explained NOTHING about the setting or characters. It was full of in jokes and references to itself that went over anyone that isn't a superfan.
>>153987567Let me tell you about homestuck
