This is probably the best incarnation of Cobra Commander ever. They managed to work in the Cobra-La origin from the movie, but make Cobra Commander less of a pathetic lackey for this race of snake people and more of a uncontrollable rogue seeking to conqueror both civilizations, motivated by a vision that he is a being of order. Anyway talk about the EU. When might Baroness and Thundercracker revert back to their old ways? Interesting shake ups and creative stories we could see?
>>153987887it had its moments, too bad about its PERMANENT DEATH!
>>153988452I'm reluctant to call any Cybertronian death "permanent" given the macguffins of the material. Ignoring stasis lock and the punishment they can take which can later be healed with Energon, you also have Vector Sigma as a conduit to The Allspark to pull bots out of the afterlife
>>153987887>When might Baroness and Thundercracker revert back to their old ways?hopefully never. it's an interesting change and i hope it sticks
>>153988517Unless you're Bumblebee.
>>153987887>This is probably the best incarnation of Cobra Commander ever.While he's admittedly one of the best villains in the Energon Universe, the modern shift towards people wanting Cobra Commander to be an absolute badass instead of the more traditional portrayal as a guy who's a great schemer and organizer, but a cowardly liability on the battlefield, it just feels odd, and like the fanboys are in control and want to make Cobra Commander better than he ever was in the original comics or cartoons because he's the main villain.But working Cobra-La into the GI Joe side of Energon Universe right from the start took a lot of balls, and they've pulled it off well so far. Doing something that drastic may have been necessary to drive home to new readers that this wasn't going to be anything like previous GI Joe comics (though the book Hama's writing still keeps getting mail from clueless readers asking how the Energon Universe books fit in with his book).>When might Baroness and Thundercracker revert back to their old ways?I'm convinced it'll happen with the Baroness, but when we least expected it, more of a sudden shock twist when it'll hurt the most than something telegraphed and built up to.With Thundercracker, he's probably staying with the Autobots like in IDW. His filecard saying he had doubts about the Decepticon cause keeps inspiring modern writers to just speedrun to him changing sides rather than playing around with having a Decepticon moralfag.>Interesting shake ups and creative stories we could see?I want them to introduce Powerglide and see if he can redeem Chameleon.It's hard to believe there's no Snake Eyes yet. I want to see Cobra add Firefly, and some more of the weird guys like Croc Master and Mindbender.Ultimately for Cobra I want a situation where they get the Baroness onto the team, and introduce Serpentor and some of the later high command additions so the book can run indefinitely just on Cobra political intrigue and soap opera.
>>153988537yeah FUCK Bumholebee
>>153988580>>153987887Cobra-La having interstellar starships but also being a bunch of flamboyant introvert agoraphobes who live in a hollow mountain is dumb, and I literally keep forgetting they're even in this
>>153988580>I'm convinced it'll happen with the Baroness, but when we least expected it, more of a sudden shock twist when it'll hurt the most than something telegraphed and built up to.she's fighting lady jaye on one of the #25 covers
>>153988534But don't people prefer The Baroness as COBRA's bad bitch? Also her defecting not only would strike a blow to The Joes, but also create drama in COBRA seeing how Destro is currently banging Astoria/Chameleon. Perhaps Destro and Baroness hooking up will lead to Astroia herself defecting to The Joes, and revealing all of COBRA's dirty secrets. Good way for her to meet Powerglide too.>>153988580Making Cobra Commander competent isn't a bad thing. The bumbling schemer thing worked for the Saturday morning 80s cartoon, but let's be real here, it wouldn't work now considering how vast COBRA is supposed to be. I get having a good mix of threatening and comedic in a villain, just look at Skeletor. However, you can get that from The Dreadnoughts in my opinion. >>153988623That's because they're wrapped up with Void Rivals
>>153988623>and I literally keep forgetting they're even in thisThey're mostly confined to Void Rivals at the moment, but they scared the hell out of Thundercracker, presumably there's going to be follow-up on that.>>153988639I think this is part of the "main GI Joe squad vs the Night Force team" storyline that's upcoming, rather than a Baroness heel turn being announced on a variant cover.>>153988657>Making Cobra Commander competent isn't a bad thing. The bumbling schemer thing worked for the Saturday morning 80s cartoon,The 80s comics made him competent at the things he's good at, while still being not much use in an actual fight a lot of the time.So long as they find a way to make the threat escalation villains even more threatening it'll all work out OK, I guess.
>>153988537More like BOOMblebee.
>>153988594>BumholebeeYou win the thread, this is his name from now on.
>>153988537To be fair, Bumblebee was killed three times during the old Marvel TF continuity and he still came back just fine.His first death was at the hands of GI Joe, which blew him to pieces because of the global paranoia regarding Transformers.His second death (as a reconstructed Goldbug) was after the Undersea powered Starscream fried him up like a pop corn kernel.His final death was near the end of the comic run, when all Autobots except a handful have been wiped up after the final post-unicron battle Decepticon betrayal. He's resurrected offscreen along everyone else.
>>153988903Death wasn't as defined in Marvel. Here his corpse was blown into tiny chunks.
>>153988805>So long as they find a way to make the threat escalation villains even more threatening it'll all work out OK, I guess.They play into Cobra Commander being a trickster and a strategist rather than excelling in on the field confrontation. They just don't make him a coward is all. Example: when he turned The Dreadnoks on each other in the swamp, or when he outright recruited them later thanks to his wallet. He's got his prosthetic hand and other gadgets too. Which speaking of, I think they heavily alluded to Cobra Commander accidentally creating The Insecticons while he was in that swamp looking for The Dreadnok's energon stockpile. He still fears The Decepticons, because he's fully aware of what they're capable of. Half the reason why he's building his army is to repel Megatron's invasion, who has a personal vendetta against CC
>>153988903>>153988926Just throwing it out there; we've seen Megatron regrow a limb with Energon, and you saw how far gone Skywarp was when he was integrated into Teletraan 1. At worst with the help of Vector Sigma, he may come back as Goldbug
>>153988926>Here his corpse was blown into tiny chunks.Same as with the Marvel continuity.
I wonder who Astrotrain's lover was.
I hope we new toys from all of this. We've already gotten Void Rivals Jetfire, and Megatron arm Optimus. What I want to see is:>Trannis>Shredhead>Elita Prime>Arcee Magnus>New COBRA merch, especially a new Cobra Commander figure
>>153988997>AstrotrainMore like Astrotrans, yes?
>>153988960>Which speaking of, I think they heavily alluded to Cobra Commander accidentally creating The InsecticonsI hope not, I'm hoping for classic Sunbow-style Insecticons.
>>153989184>I hope not, I'm hoping for classic Sunbow-style Insecticons, insecticons.Fixed that for you, you.
>>153989184>>153989200It all lines up>Bug "drones" created by Cobra Commander>Eat Energon to become something more>Takes place in a remote swamp (like the G1 cartoon) where The Dreadnoks are held up, digging up an old Energon Crystal reserve3 may have been left behind, and soon will take the shape of Bombshell, Shrapnel, and Kickack
>>153988993the continuity where Optimus Prime was stored on a 5 1/4" floppy disk
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Hey where do I begin with the energon gi joe comics? I know theres a main title plus a Destro and a CC mini
>>153989822The CC, Destro, and Scarlet minis (in that order) are all set before the ongoing. Read it in that order to get everything.
>>153989822>>153989942There's also a Duke mini, Void Rivals, and the EU specials
>>153990325Where do those fit?>>153989942>>153990325Thanks
>>153988452ThisI was actually somewhat optimistic over Kirkman's run but it feels so....clunky It's like Cates' Hulk after Ewing's (okay maybe not THAT bad) Kirkman is hit or miss these days but Transformers is probably his biggest miss which is a shame since it's a flagship book that was doing so well when it first startedIt's now the weak link of the Energon Universe
>>153987887So who is his new gf
>>153988997probs just some literally-who. i know there was some speculation it might've been Blitzwing, but other than the two being triple changers, there's nothing really to link the two together and would've only cost us a proper Blitzwing in Skybound
>>153991012and to think before his run started I was joking about transformers covered head to toe in blood, Kirkman's signature movenow the only shocking thing is that Bumblebee hasn't come back to beat Carly to death with a board with a nail through it
I haven't checked in on energon in a couple years. I remember the GI Joe one being the weakest of the bunch. I take it from the thread it got better?
>>153987887Mercer has to eventually join the Joes as well.
>>153989806MOMMY!!
>>153988452I can not believe how mindbroken people are about this. DWJ's run wasn't good, Kirkman's is. Cope.
>>153990963Duke > CC > Void Rivals v1 (this series will be important) > EU Special 2024 > Void Rivals v2 > Scarlett > Destro > Joe v1 > Void Rivals v3 (this is when it becomes important) > EU Special 2025 > Joe v2 > Void Rivals v4 > Joe v3 > Void Rivals v5 > EU Special 2026 > Joe v4It should be noted that Joes also appear in Transformers, but you didn't ask about that.
>>153989806Made for human men.
>>153994786Lets be real,carly would be one with a boardCliffjumper has took bumblebitches place perfectly and far as Im concerned he can stay there for rest of timeJust give him a normal sized car modeOriginal Mini or a rally hatchback would be great,that chibified porsche doesnt work imo
>>153994897fuck off kirkman
>>153988580I agree. To me he's supposed the be kind of pathetic, even if he's got excellent villain wrangling charisma and scheming abilities.
>>153987887This motherfucker got a palefu too.
>>153997118>Masked terrorist leader gets his own waifuDamn it LeLouch.... I mean Cobra Commander.
