What are some comics where an author changes the status quo only for the next author to ignore it?
>>153989372All comics? Not all but I think is more the rule that the exception.
>>153989372Daredevil is funny.He goes from the most dramatic defeat in his life.....to be a colage teacher.
>>153989372Is Harper Row based on someone Scott Snyder knows? He's been trying to make her a thing pretty much his entire tenure at DC and nobody likes her.
>>153990748Nah that's Duke Thomas, the Signal. Harper hasn't shown up in Absolute Batman, Duke has
>>15398937290% of comic series after they change the writer
>>153989372Much like Jason Todd, I like this character, but I don't want DC to ruin her, so I hope they forget about her. >>153990748She was a homage to a little girl who showed up and asked for an autograph at a con or something.
>>153989415It used to be that you built on what the previous guys did but that changed in the 2000s when Brevoort/Marvel started promoting runs as "seasons".
>>153989372I liked her but it is kind of funny how she just vanished. She was working as a nurse the last time we saw her, right? I think Bluebird would work nicely as a Robin equivalence under Batgirl/Barbara. They’re both techies, so Bluebird would be interested in learning more so she'd fit in nicely for Birds of Prey activities. The Bat cave is too crowded these days so you gotta spread out the sidekicks to other Gotham vigilantes.
>>153990981I would have loved to have seen Bluebird interact with Jason. She's basically the Jason Todd success story. Unlike Jason, she didn't lash out against the world and actually made something of herself while Jason wasted his talents.
>>153991052Get off /co/, Snyder
>>153991119Snyder is the only guy in DC who has written a good gay duo in Harper and her brother. I will give credit where its due.
>>153989372Immortal Hulk followed by Cates' run is pretty infamous. IH ends with Bruce and Hulk reconciling and being helped by all the heroes to save the world. Cates has Bruce imprisoning Hulk's mind and taking control of his body and the heroes once again view him as a threat.
>>153991179eh, hasn't that ever been the status quo? Hulk has regularly saved the world with Defenders and Avengers activities along with his loner adventures. People finally take notice at how he really is a force of good even if he is scary... and then they forget and he's a hunted and hated monster all over again. Rinse and repeat, for decades.
>>153991272The Green Door alone is massive. There's also TOAA/TOBA. Bruce and Hulk finding peace and that seemingly expected to carry over is another. The horror addition isn't exactly new but not to the degree it was in IH, especially with body horror. And when Cates and Ottley ended their run, the comic went back to using horror again.
>>153989372Every She-Hulk run.
Literally nothing about OG Deadpool survivesHe was literally a cosmic hero at one point
>>153989415Except WonderWoman most DC Big heroes(Superman , Flash, GL, Batman, Nightwing ) need to follow a little the previous runs tho Like PJK following Superman and the authority, Adams bringing back previous GL stories , the 7 years of Alfred being dead+ Vandal plot , hell even Spurrier run has the things introduced on Adams run or Waid's phantom storyarc has been used in Supergirl book
>>153989372what was even the point with her?you already have Tim Drake and Babs fulfilling the role of tech/gadget focused sidekick, I really don't see what she brings to the team besides being the gayest and having the shittiest haircut in the batfamily
>>153989372I'm pretty sure Supergirl and WonderWoman have been in a cycle of the next writer disregarding everything the previous one did for the last decade and a half at the very least.
>>153990796>Duke is in absolute Lmaooo
>>153989372>picrelIt's a fucking miracle she's bi and not les
>>153989372She’s so pretty.DC should let her get with either Steph or Cass. Gotham Knights made it canon.
EVERYONE dismissing Cates' "Titan Hulk" once he was off the book. Which is funny cause the current run is about a NEW evil ego for the Hulk that is beating everyone up anyways.
>>153989372Harper was doomed the moment her origin story was tied up with an altered shitty attempt to change Cassandra Cain's backstory (in BRE). That basically made her an existential enemy of every Cass fan: if she exists, Cass can't have her good origin. Thus she can't exist.Not that anyone ever liked Harper to begin with.>>153994472Fuck you.
>>153994758Harper was doomed the minute they called her "fan favourite" before she even showed up.
>>153989372Honestly it feels like it happens all the time.
>>153989372well at least people still remember Harper, you can't make a bat related character disappearshe even showed up in the shitter later seasons of young justice now remember that lady with the two pistols at the start of new 52 that was supposed to be a big new DC character and even got her own solo run?completely memory holed
>>153990748she’s a fan favorite
>>153994758>Harper was doomed the moment her origin story was tied up with an altered shitty attempt to change Cassandra Cain's backstory (in BRE).I’m a lazy secondary who wants to be spoonfed, QRD?
>>153995400Hot
>>153996992>she’s a fan favoriteBlatant omnipresent astroturfing =/= fan favorite.
>>153996953She just had recently appeared actually in New History of DC Universe
>>153989372A lot of Rosenberg's stuff on Uncanny got immediately ignored the moment HoXPoX came
>>153993657Blame the artist for this one. Just absolutely awful.
>>153990800>She was a homage to a little girl who showed up and asked for an autograph at a con or something.while true, the other bit is that the girl's mom was harassing dc at cons about not having enough women creators
>>153993657Snyder is just DC's Bendis and wanted his own Miles and Riri. Duke was created to be the new Robin, his first appearance was as future Robin, but Damian was just more popular so we ended up with Duke as Lark and then The Signal. Harper was meant to be Tim's replacement, but she sucks ass too
>>153997007During Nu52 era, when Cass Cain was brought back in Batman & Robin Eternal, they rewrote her origin story and made it so that she killed Harper Row's mother, tying the two characters together. This was immensely unpopular and seen as sabotage for her, though more likely it was just an extremely ill-advised attempt to make Harper more relevant. In any case that version of her origin ended up in the dumpster over the years, and so did Harper Row.
>>153997338Yeah when he was brought on to give Hickman time to set up his run, he was told he could do whatever he wanted because Hickman was hitting a massive reset button.
>>153999592I bet the cunt couldnt name 10 female comic/webcomic/manga creators if she tried.
>>153999814i'd bet she was angling for them to hire her as a writer just to shut her up, like simone and the fridging crap she kept bitching about
>>153999854Yeah, but simone P game ridiculous. So thats not the only reason she was hired.
>>153999814Neither can I
>>153997328And the overhated Gotham Knights tv show
>>153993657Harper was a self-taught electrical/mechanical engineer. She was a replacement for Harold more than competition for Batgirl or Tim. Which would be obvious, if you read the comics.Bab
Rainbow Rowell basically dumped as much shit from anything after volume 1 of Runaways as she could with the exception of Victor who she clearly thought was hot. And I don't just mean other writers besides BKV because one of the first things she did was bring back Gert. Breaking up Karolina and Julie, dumping Klara, waiting unil literally the vey end to bring back Xavin, etc. It's less change for the sake of change and more just a fat chick canonizing her 20 year old fanfiction. The fact there are actually people on /co/ that praise it is depressing.
>>153989372>>153993657>>153995400What's even the point of a mask if she's going to walk around with hair and piercings that give her away?This is like if Bruce got a tattoo on his chin.
>>153993508You say that, but Bendis tanked the Superman book so hard that Williamson has reversed almost everything he did.From killing Kandor, to revealing Superman's identity, even bringing back the OG Legion.The one thing he hasn't reversed is the one thing people hated the most tho, we can all thank Taylor for that.
>>154001718Her fucking She-Hulk run was nothing but trauma-dumping & food for 25 issues.
>>154001792Scott Snyder is not a very smart writer. He's a slightly better Judd Winick.
>>154001792Come on, nit picking at this level just opens you up to every other half assed mask or costume that exists in the universe. Bitch about something that actually matters
>>154001826>The one thing he hasn't reversed is the one thing people hated the most tho, we can all thank Taylor for that.Jon is a kid again.
>>154002438Anon, making Jon is still queer.
>>154002479Oh, I'm not a little bitch so I don't care. They should have hooked him up with more likable people though.
>>154002438Not really.We currently have 2 Jon, we got kid Jon back from before he got aged up, while older Jon got a new identity.In theory, this seems like an obvious solution, just have 2 Jons around, kinda like we have 2 Karas, but I don't believe this is going to stick.Superboy Jon isn't mentioned or shows up in any of the later Superman solicitations, so I believe at some point they'll reveal him to be a fake illusion or a demon or whatever.I want kid Jon back, but I don't trust DC anymore man, I've honestly given up.
>>154002502Anon.Jon as a character is ruined more then harley quinn and barry allen.Let it go.It was fun while it lasted.
>>154002540I already said I've given up lolIt's honestly kinda amazing how quickly they ruined Jon as a character, we had 2 good years of him before Bendis came and fucked it all up.
>>154002540How is Barry ruined?
>>153989372Bluebird sisters...
>>154002578He went from a noble hero of the past to a cheap knock off of wally that everyone wishes was still dead.Didio and wb wanting symmetry with their movies and media was a bad call.
>>154002562Aging him up was the fuck up.Bendis turning him fag was him and dc/wb looking for blackrock bucks.
>>153994472Based.>>153994758Retarded GK hater.
>>154002683Anon, Bendis aged him up, Taylor made him a fag.
>>154003253Well shit.They both suck shit.
Fall and Rise of Captain Atom reset him from being Dr. Manhattan-lite back to having his post-Crisis powers, a new design, and even a lingering plot thread with his estranged son inheriting his powers. His next appearance was him having his classic design back and jobbing to Gotham Girl.
>>153989372Semi-relevant but I am sure in James Tinion's Batman run, Bruce decided Joker had to die, but Jeph Loeb went like "nahhh"
>>154003999>His next appearance was him having his classic design back and jobbing to Gotham Girl.The fact Captain Atom is treated like such shit all the time really makes me want to go back and read his '80s series. I've always found Bates to be a merely cromulent writer but I've also never really heard anything bad about that book.
>>154001686>She was a replacement for HaroldIn other words, she was worthless.
>>153995400She's so fashionable!
>>153995400You can definitely make Harper work… you just need someone who can tone down the edge. Punk rock hasn’t been good in decades.
>>154004742It gets weird sometimes, but otherwise it's a strong read. It has some fresh ideas, especially for the time. There's a unique blend of military thriller with sci-fi.
>>153989372I liked Harper but I don't think she should have become a masked hero. Should have just stayed in the Batcave as an engineer/mechanic.
>>154001826Bendis run was shit but even Williamson still treat like something that happened.The nigga villain that hate Lois appeared in his run, Lex knew Clark Identity , John still is grown Up,...>>154002578It could mean many thingsAll writers writing Wally but a scientist.Geoff turning Barry into Bruce Wayne with superspeed (thankfully Williamson change that).Or Waid striping Barry from his powers so is now a normal guy
>>153990800>I like this character, but I don't want DC to ruin her, so I hope they forget about herMe with Hitman
>>153993508>NightwingDick is literally worse than Wonder Woman in this regard. At least Diana has a handful of villains and supporting cast that follow her writer to writer. Dixon to Devin and Taylor to Watters are the only times a writer has even tried to follow the status quo but both Devin and Watters ended up dumping a lot of Dixon and Taylor's shit.
>>154006516>>154007386Harper would've been just fine as the mech/engineer/rebel character on a team book. She has a fine backstory, inoffensive personality, comes with a supporting cast member (her brother), and her design is mostly just overdesigned. Problem is DC basically doesn't have any other teams besides JL/JSA/Titans/Teen Titans that can hold a book for more than 18-24 issues outside of maybe Birds of Prey and Outsiders depending on the writer, and all of those but JSA (whose entire purpose does not justify her joining & is overstuffed already) have more popular batfamily members as common members.
>>153993657Snyder is a big Cass fan but was denied using her during his Batman run so he created Harper instead.Similarly Simone created Strix to be a Cass knock off and used her after the CoO Batgirl tie in in later Batgirl issues and 2015 Secret Six due to still not being able to use Cass.
>>154010151I like her as the team mechanic that comes out every once and awhile when it’s an all hands on deck crisis. She should join a new Birds of Prey as the mechanic.
>>154010291>Similarly Simone created Strix to be a Cass knock off and used her after the CoO Batgirl tie in in later Batgirl issues and 2015 Secret Six due to still not being able to use Cass.Blessing in disguise, Simone always had terrible ideas for Cass ("Angel of the Bat") and it would have been awful to have her participate in the Secret Six orgy.
>>154010551Orgy Cass would have been great!
>>153993508Nightwing?>Grayson's runTook everything Dixon built and slowly destroyed it (his job, Dickbabs, his supporting cast). Then DC bombed the entire city.>OYL No Bludhaven, one member of the supporting cast drops by for an issue, no previous villains, etc. Is a model. Dated Cheyenne. He's in New York.>Wolfman'sMore interested in Vigilante, no Bludhaven, no previous supporting cast members, no previous villains, etc. Is a gymnastics teacher. Retconned in Liu, otherwise no girlfriend. Still in New York.>Tomasi'sNo Bludhaven, no previous supporting cast members, no previous villains, seemed to just be filler until Morrison got rid of Batman. Is a museum curator for some reason. Dated some white girl with dreads/braids. Still in New York.>HigginsOh boyNo Bludhaven, no previous supporting cast members, no previous villains. HOWEVER if you read his original plans, he did want Blockbuster in his run. Dated Raya.>Seeley/King GraysonEverything is different. Dated Helena.>SeeleyNo previous supporting cast members. Reinvented most of Dixon's villains to be completely different and then brought in some Dickbats shit. Dated Shawn.>HumphriesFiller. No previous cast members, no previous villains, etc. No girlfriend.>PercyFiller, no previous cast members, no previous villains, etc. No girlfriend.>The Ric SagaEverything is different. Dated Bea and is a taxi driver. Wasn't even Nightwing or Dick.>TaylorDumped Bea and brought back Dickbabs, brought back some previous villains. Brought in Maggie instead of bringing back Amy. Brought back Blockbuster and a couple Dixon villains. Made the billionaire status quo.>WattersKept Dickbabs, no previous villains. Kept Maggie but dumped Melinda. Is dumping the billionaire status quo.Dick is one of the worst offenders of changing status quos and not keeping supporting casts and villains. Literally the only constant since 2016 is Bludhaven and it took a decade for it to come back.
>>153996953Based Manhattan for nuking her into splat.
>>154005494Someone has to keep the Batmobile tires full.
>>154011830Why can't The Flash take less than a second out of his day to do it?
>>154010410I wish she could have joined up as a support with Tim, Steph and Jason. Honestly I really wish Tim, Steph and Jason had a comic to themselves since they’re the most interesting ones of the Batfam.
>>154011934Barry right now doesn't have power+ doesn't like gotham, Wally is not gonna spent a second of time for a manchild that said to him that Jai/Iris shouldn't work as heroes because they are children Jay rather spent his time on gotham with Alan and Bart rather spent his time in Gotham making the joker cry.
Anyone got the greentext of Harper getting gangbanged in an alley by goons?
>>154012948???
Harper canonically has thicc thighs, just saying.
>>154007458Waid was right in this one, Barry is retired and Thawne is fucking dead.
>>154012948Found it.>Is this one of the Batgirls?>Nah , Batgirls a redhead. Or a blonde. Or she has a gimpsuit.>That Huntress chick maybe?>Please, she ain't got the titties for that>The gang of men circled around her chuckled at that remark. They crowded around the teen vigilante. She couldn't get a headcount in her position, at least 5 guys, maybe more. Maybe they're texting their scumbag friends and filming her.>"It's Bluebird, you fucking idiots" Harper thought, and only thought as her mouth was currently stuffed with a gangster's thick cock meat. She glares at him, but he barely notices as her grabs the longer hair on top of her sidecut and roughly brings her face close to the case of his girthy cock>another set of hands is using a knife to cut off the bottom of her costume, two other men stretch her legs out and up to let him work. He's not very gentle, groping and pulling at the fabric, often squeezing her thigh as he cuts around-and soon her moist little snatch is bare, a patch of smooth pale skin against her torn black pants>Her chest armor is harder to get off.If the knife thug just focussed on a clean cut it'd be off in a few seconds, but he's indulging in fingering her with one hand while his other stretches the straps, trying to make them snap. She yelps around the cock in her mouth as they snap back, slapping her skin raw>Fuck this little bat slut is wet. You like this you little slut? Getting finger fucked in some dirty alley?>Harper feels a sinking sensation at the pit of her stomach at those words, and then her cunt involuntarily squeeze around the man's calloused fingers.
>>154015624>Was she enjoying this? no fucking way. She's not dumb enough to do something amateur like try and bite the guys dick or kick behind her, not while they've got guns at the ready and knives by soft, delicate skin. She just knew it's just not worth the fight. Let them get all dick-brained before she makes a move. They'll be down in seconds. But she just knows it's going to be a long damn time before those seconds.>Hurry up, I'm not here to watch you finger her. Get your shot in already, gimme the knife and I'll get her tits out>Damn, fine--knife guy says, ceasing his futile cutting and handing his knife. He gives a few harder finger thrusts until she's whimpering around the base of his pal's cock.>Harper pulls back a little, protesting for breath. the gangster she's been throating's dick covered in thick saliva. "fuck..." she mutters, hearing the clanking of the man behind her's belt being undone, and his pants dropping. Then the poking sensation of his rod rubbing against her pussy lips>she grits her teeth. . Sucking cock is one thing, but a dirty, unknown cock is another..again she feels that sinking feeling as a rush of heat goes to her pussy.>She grunts as he roughly squeezes into her pussy and starts going at her tight pussy with no rhythm or restraint. Trying not to show her face, she hurries it into the man infant of her’s shaft, smelling his thick, sweaty scent and nuzzling his cock. She sloppily starts to like the shaft, and mouths on his full balls. Meanwhile, knife guy is spanking her still clothed ass and pulling at the fabric until it tears>Might have another hole soon, boys!
>>153989372>Hickman's Krakoa era X-Men ignored the failure of Scott & Jean's marriage from Morrison's run.>From the Ashes era writers editorialy mandated to ignore Krakoa era by Brevoort>Gwenpool Strikes Back for Unbelievable Gwenpool>All-New, All-Deadly Gwenpool with X-31 ignoring the rules Zeb Wells retconned with OG souls coming back in clones created after death so she SHOULD be the OG Gwen Stacy but Cavan Scott was pissed he had to write for Diet Deadpool and dedicated an entire page to seething about being forced on the project>DoX/IvX with the exception of having to acknowledge the retconned lore of Terrigen being lethal to Mutants with another convoluted nonsensical retcon to excuse making Kamala Khan a Mutant despite the contradiction of how she became a Nuhuman.>Joe Quesada's One More Day for the previous 20 years of Spider-Man history because he became a bitter divorcee with a vendetta against marriage and tried breaking up Reed and Sue in Civil War I before cooler heads prevailed since that was sacred ground for Marvel's foundations so they just had marriage counseling, instead>Joe Kelly's ASM to Zeb Well's ASM "What did Peter DO!?" and the 4 years in the Rabinverse that mad MJ so madly in love with Paul and why she treated Peter with such hostility after coming back to Earth-616 despite (apparently) thinking he was dead(?)>Tom King's Wonder Woman for Diana's entire characterization history>Joe Kelly ignoring Rek-Rap (Good riddance)>Stephanie Phillips' Phoenix (Jean hating and slapping Cable, not considering him her 'real' son) after The Adventures of Slym and Redd established her raising and loving him with Scott>Zeb Wells' single, solitary good creative call of his entire career resolving Maddy's issue before Stephanie Phillips reduced her back into a one-dimensional Goblin Queen who only exists to hate and envy Jean in her Phoenix/Binary run.>Tom King reverting Diana back to a daughter of Zeus origin after clay origin finally returned.
>>154015624>>154015630That sucked.
