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It's this time of the year again.
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Fucking faggot jannies pruned the Aggretsuko thread.
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>>153991405
Ruby best RWBY
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>>153991405
RWBY is dead
But homophobic Ruby will live forever
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>>153991405
Well all right then.
Lets start off strong shall we?
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I will always have Rwby Chibi.
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>>153991405
dead franchise
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If RT was smart
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>>153991449
>jannies deleted the off-topic garbage thread
took these faggots long enough and you should kill yourself for bitching about it
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>>153994600
Now if only they'd take care of Sharkfag, Minimoyfag, and the fags fucking up the drawthreads.
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>>153994594
Hell no. Live action RWBY would absolutely suck.
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>>153994848
RWBY already sucks!
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cuckqueen summer flashback never ever
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>>153991405
i still dont get how this show failed
>>153992117
fuckkk she teases me with her hips. what a slut
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>>153994600
>posts anime thread on /co/ again
Why would you do that?
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>>153995133
wowie
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>>153995464
Loss of direction, mostly. It's like people didn't know what to do and where to take things after Monty passed.
It's a shame. It is the sort of show that'd make for a extremely successful series if it were in the right hands. I reckon a Japanese studio would be able to do wonders with it. It could easily become something akin to the Fate series.

The weeb audience would absolutely drool over it if it handled properly. Lots of potential for crossovers, cool powers, cool designs, cool combat scenes, monsters, and so on.
It's absolutely wasted on a western studio, people here just don't usually know how to handle this sort of show very well.
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Blake (and Adam) got short changed so badly.
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>>153991405
Vol 10 never ever.
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>>153995464
Really bad money wasting, so much that it looks like fraud. RWBY never should've been able to fail and die with the popularity it had at one point. Merch and hype should've easily kept it going. But they pissed it away with general incompetence and they also let their personal politics get in the way. The truth is that the people in charge just didn't know what they were doing and didn't have the talent to fix things when they fucked up too badly. RWBY hardly took as big of a downturn as something like Star Wars but it didn't have the endless money and cultural relevance of Star Wars and Disney to keep it afloat either.
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>>153996587
I think it just came down to the fact that Monty himself wasn't just a weeb but the kind of action movie loving chuunibyo you needed him to be.
Like, Monty had that touch. If he sees a cool weapon in Deadliest Warrior, he's gonna look into that weapon and see how he can incorporate it.
If you only put something like a kusarigama in your weebshit because you've seen it in other weebshit, you're not gonna do much with it.

Monty was the guy who saw the lever action scene in Terminator 2 and thought "but what if they were nunchucks", far from unique to him but also the sign of a certain "childish" way of thinking NEEDED to write/direct/animate this kind of stuff.

Thing is, Monty has kind of just become the big distraction in regards to why the later seasons didn't work. "Did he plan this? Did he not plan this?"

It doesn't matter. It was bad. Objectively, those first three volumes were clearly his child. But I think the myth that he would have still been steering the ship perfectly is part of the problem. Because what made the continued volumes so bad was a consistent emphasis on angst and faux-maturity, combined with a lack of good fight scenes, a cast being consistently split up across juggled plot threads and half baked development.

Like, what the hell was the big genies and Alice In Wonderland lore? Why did we need this?
It's all convoluted as hell.
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>>153996796
According to former RT employees the entire company never made a profit for its final 9 years. Just an absolute shitshow.
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>>153995133
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>>153996853
Yeah, Volumes 1-3 were not masterpieces of writing or world-building or character development or anything like that. But it was okay because the show wasn't really trying to be bigger than what it was. It was just flashy fun back then. Then the show became far too serious while the fighting also got worse. (Although there is plenty of good action in later Volumes still).

Add to that the time-constraints, Volumes of RWBY are shorter than a 12-episode season of anime, and you can see where the problems come from.
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>>153996796
>looks like fraud
S5 of RWBY took place in a single room because the guy directing Gen:Lock stole all the money for taht series.
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>>153995133
Reminder that Summer canonically fucked her entire team
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>>153996760
>black trailer
>catgirl ninja and her edgy masked sword wielding bf row row fight the power against a evil demihuman slavery exploiting high tech mega-corp but he's going nuclear while she's trying to hold on to her morals
how do you even mess this innately cool premise up?

>Not once showing Faunus actually being exploited by humans
>at worst some bunny girl is getting pranked and disrespected by generic school jock bully guy who quickly apologizes and they become friends
>town has a confederate statue from the human vs faunus war
>Faunus Israel which the humans gave them in reparations actually pretty comfy
>Blake is practically a princess and comes from a rich and politically powerful family and has probably never suffered any real racism
>Yeah SDC is like the evil patriarchy but we're not gonna show it because we don't want to imply the Schnee girls are complicit instead of victims
>Adam's scar is badass. Don't even suggest how he got it.
I guess it was just all too edgy for whatever age rating they were going for.
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>>153995133
such a great mom to her boyfriend's daughter
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>>153996853
I don't think Monty was a super writer or anything, but he surely had passion, he did what he thought was cool without worrying too much about sending a message and that sort of crap, and I respect that.
Again, I think the series is wasted here. An eastern studio would surely have a much greater know-how on how to handle it properly.
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>>153997057
>how do you even mess this innately cool premise up?
It was being handled by white guys. 'Nuff said.
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there was an anime though.
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>>153997304
>It was being handled by white guys who here too spooked being called racist to do heckin' racism in their fantasy story*.
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>>153997396
Pretty much, yeah.
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>>153997342
It was okay. Dragged in the middle.

>>153997396
And then had to do a terrible election plot with their pet character Robyn Sue who everyone loved and make Ironwood evil for stupid reasons.
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>>153997342
>the studio that worked on this were going to put in an onsen scene
>CuckerTeeth flatout said no to it
At least there are a few mid-battle upskirts sprinkled in, from what I heard
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>>153997057
>>at worst some bunny girl is getting pranked and disrespected by generic school jock bully guy who quickly apologizes and they become friends
Basically, you can either portray racism as a systemic and societal problem which people participate in at varying levels or you can make it a "the bad guy thing."

The problem is RWBY presents the former and only really ever does the latter.
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>>153997684
Literally the only bit of 'systemic racism' we see is the 'no faunas allowed sign in that random village and some the random civvies in Mantle calling blake a pet.
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>>153994956
How come RWBY and Naruto threads acknowledge how shit their show is but not Fairy Tail threads?
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>>153997802
It's like, you needed a sort of moment where some kids ran up and asking Blake if she like, has yarn for them to play with or how much she naps. And not in a mocking way but in a genuinely curious way where it shows stereotypes and insensitivity being learned from a young age.

To a certain degree, racism is the natural reaction to an "other" whose slightly different. In many other regards, its a learned behavior. And you'll see it in children a lot, they'll think something like "Asians only eat with chopsticks" because their predominant exposure to Asian culture is Chinese restaurants
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>>153997684
Honestly considering RT's politics later I'm glad they went the other way. Otherwise it just would've gone full on commie preaching.
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>>153997915
Because the only purpose of fairy tail is to have girls who are hot and actually have personalities. Which it manages somehow.
Naruto jumped the shark fucking hard and so did RWBY and at least Naruto had a good story in the first half and probably till around the gaara retrieval mission i guess.
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>>153997993
The issue with this is that Blake seems to fit every single stereotype about cats that exists so she'd probably pull out a ball of yarn from somewhere.
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>>153995133
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At least it's still getting a lot of good fanfiction for a dead franchise. That's better than a lot of series can ask for.
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>>153997057
>generic school jock bully guy who quickly apologizes and they become friends
Are you talking about how he kind of made up with Jaune? Because as far as I know, Cardin never apologized for being racist.
>>153998020
I never really thought about that until now. Racism towards cat people can't really be taken seriously if the writers themselves make the most prominent cat person act like a cat stereotype.
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>>153995464
Rooster Teeth was just that much of a dumpster fire. They squandered everything they had going for them through incompetence and hubris.
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>>153998004
>the only purpose of fairy tail is to have girls who are hot and actually have personalities
And yet the bimbo damsel jobber gets more attention than the actual best girl.
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Gen:lock killed RT. It was a slow death, like a gunshot to the stomach.
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>>153997674
See? That's the sort of thing that makes western studios unable to handle a proper anime series. They worry too much about dumb stuff like this.
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>>153998635
It was probably Blakes VA's fault, she tried to cancel the director of the anime.
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>>153997993
>some kids ran up and asking Blake if she like, has yarn for them to play with
They literally did this in Chibi but it was even more blatant; Yang giving Blake a ball of yarn for HER to play with but Ruby comes out of nowhere with the cat behavior
>there was more faunus racism in the first season of Chibi than most of the actual show; it was just done in a cute, inoffensive way
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>>153999252
They had more racism stuff in side-content and backstories, like with Ilia. But they didn't have the balls or talent to actually make it work in the show.
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>>153994594
Maisie is to small to be Rwubby.
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>>153994594
I remember when I would fan cast RWBY characters:
>Ironwood - Ben Affleck
>Qrow - Jensen Ackles
>Ozpin - Charlie Cox
>Ozpin - David Bowie (if RWBY was an 80s movie)
I didn't know any young actresses to play the main girls.
>>153999252
IIRC, that episode ended with Yang apologizing for being racist, giving Blake a gift, and Blake deciding to make the box her home.
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V10 status? They still trying to do it and drag this series' corpse out the grave, or is it finally over?
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>>153999729
No one knows what Viz is doing
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>>153999729
As much as I do still like RWBY and wish Volume 10 was coming, I believe the show is dead.
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>>153999729
>>153999750
I really wanna know what Viz was thinking when they bought RWBY. Aren't they just a publishing/localization company? How ware they supposed to continue the series? Is it a merchandising thing?
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>>153999844
Merchandise was a huge part, yes.
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>>153999729
Pretty sure it's a jack-in-the-box situation now. Either we hear something about it or we don't.
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>>153999844
Isn't Viz also sponsoring Helleva Boss?
They are trying to move into a publishing house but were truly unaware of how dogshit RWBY's development was,
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>>153999480
maisie is too ugly to play rwby
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I love my autistic robot daughter.
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Did Cinder ever feel like a credible threat?
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Wasn't this picked up for a new Season years ago?
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>>154001560
Yeah, she was never a genius or anything, but she was competent and played to her strengths in Volumes 1-3. Then they made her retarded in Volume 5 and she stayed that way for a long time.
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>>154001725
It was acquired by Viz but we never got news on production of a new season.

Have a rube.
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>>153999348
And that's why she's the only good one. That and being voiced by Makoto Nijima.
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>>154001757
more scalie faunus were needed
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Kerry, where my nigga mercury at?
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>>154001757
I know that they would never do this, but it would be hilarious if the next time we see Illia she's shacked up with Sun.
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>>154001939
He's taken.
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>>154001952
Unless Viz tells Kerry and co to knock it off with the lgbt messaging, they are absolutely going to be a couple when we see them again.
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>>153996895
Not even all their 2D shit they were pushing for?
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>>154001939
They'll pair her off with Emerald, no question.
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>>154002104
Yeah . . .
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>>153991405
>'texan ""anime""
A bunch of turds drawing aids
Aidy turds
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Anime suck, and texas sucks
'Wonder' why its shit
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>>154002440
>texas sucks
SHOVE IT UP YER ASS!
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>>154002412
>>154002440
ESL
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Yang's assets...
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What would you want to see happen in V10 or beyond?
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>>154002440
I agree, only steers and queers come from Texas.
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>>153996853
>>153996587
The problem with RWBY's direction post-Monty is that the people who knew what Monty wanted for the series (Sheena, Shane) were pushed out or dismissed while Monty's co-creators (Miles and Kerry) were somewhat in the dark about what exactly Monty was intending, mainly because RT didn't have access to Monty's stuff that Sheena or Shane were holding onto but also because neither Miles or Kerry were the turboweebs into JRPGs, fighting games, and 90s psychological anime along with Yuri and shonen manga/anime.

The latter in particular is something that almost NO ONE ever brings up: RWBY is a composite of everything Monty liked: Toonami anime, 2000s SJ series, Mecha anime, cyberpunk anime, Yuri manga, Harry Potter and ATLA, Squeenix games, action movies, shoujo romance, fairy tales/folklore/mythology, music and dancing and fashion. He was a major Evangelion, Bleach, TTGL, and Kingdom Hearts/Final Fantasy fanboy!

>>153999844
Viz knows that despite being messy, RWBY filled the niche of "Final Fantasy as an animated series" and they're trying to capture that market just in case Square Enix ever gets their heads out of their asses.
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>>154005042
A simpler arc in Vacuo that doesn't end with our heroes getting humiliated or being idiots. They beat Tyrian and Mercury and safely secure the Summer Maiden (whoever the hell it is) and the Sword of Destruction and prepare for the final showdown with Salem and Cinder back at Beacon where the last relic is. Show the girls actually being heroes and being competent. No more of this Last Jedi inspired crap that ruined Volumes 7 and 8.
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>>153997684
The problem with RWBY's racism is that Monty was pulling from anime and JRPGs which have their fantasy racism rooted in East Asian racism which is rooted moreso in nationalism and simple tribalism + culture clash, the divide between language-cultures. Miles and Kerry were pulling from the general American perception of racism which is specifically rooted in America's relationship and history regarding African slavery and the subsequent "Anglo superiority" framework that followed coupled with American classism, (something something LBJ quote) and all three of them were also pulling from Harry Potter and ATLA's/TLOK's fantasy racism (which are horrible examples).
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>>154002440
>>154002484
Fuck You Texas and fuck your Lone Star Beer
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>>153997304
Honestly, I blame Miles having ADHD for why RWBY is a mess writing wise. ADHD writers can NEVER come up with a good story because they lack the attention span to keep things logical and consistent. Anytime someone with ADHD is let into a writer's room, the same things happen on repeat:

>absurd character bloat
>characters repeating the same arc over and over again
>forgetting established lore/worldbuilding and introducing new stuff that tends to contradict the former
>forgetting characters
>not going back and rewatching/reviewing what you've finished
>arcs being unfinished, suddenly dropped, or left on permanent hold
>lack of continuity between seasons
>emotional-thematic throughlines being incredibly different between seasons
>starting without an outline and then getting stuck midway
>getting really hung up on certain ideas and shoving them in even if they don't make sense
>"decision fatigue"
>can't write chronologically
>editing while drafting

TOH's creator is ADHD. Hazbin's creator is ADHD. Need I say more?
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>>153995133
Seeing the picture makes me remember when the fandom was young and innocent and there were a ton of theories floating around.
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>>153999844
They might be pulling a Harmony Gold and just gonna milk merch for decades while constantly stringing the fandom along with empty promises of new episodes until they're in their 50s.
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>>153991405
Is it dead yet?
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>>153991405
I was so bored by the second season, I dropped out. Some of animations are really great and some look like they were done on Flash. The writing for the story and characters isn't anything special to it.
Shame some of these nice designs were wasted.
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>>154005340
>Viz knows that despite being messy, RWBY filled the niche of "Final Fantasy as an animated series" and they're trying to capture that market just in case Square Enix ever gets their heads out of their asses.
....Outside of animated tie ins to their games, I highly doubt that were the case.
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>>153994594
>Maisie Williams
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>>153999844
Viz isn't as dumb as RT and they have plenty of money, they have been long in this business working for Japanese companies and knows what they were getting into when they bought the IP.

If V10 ever happens, expect then to have as much quality control or mandates over whatever MKEK tries to pull off. Animation would most likely by outsourced though. But right now I expect then to release small stuff like manga or something like first to fill up, that's the sort of content the work with for the most part.
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>>154005631
At least with HG you had to factor in all the stuff going on between the Macross side and Robotech limiting anything they could do with that series, besides the fact Viz works with bigger and more profitable IPs so any benefit from RWBY would be dirt cheap by comparison, unless they start doing shit with to rebuild some interest.
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>>154005340
I think post-Monty RWBY has a similar problem to post-Lucas Star Wars. Part of what gave Star Wars its identity was George just taking things he was interested in (classic film, serials, real life history) and making the world around it. For as bad as the Prequels got, they at least had a unique identity. The Sequels decided to take inspiration from Star Wars, which resulted in an uninteresting world and stories. The later RWBY volumes don't feel like their taking cues from the weebshit Monty liked, but whatever show is big atm.
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>>154005954
As I said above >>154005346 they were trying to ape the Last Jedi with Volume 8, cynical bullshit where no one is coming to help you. Probably Game of Thrones too. Making things dark and nihilistic because that's more "artistic" to the hacks in charge of RWBY.
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>>153991405
The greatest moment in all of rwby
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>>153997342
And it was fucking ass. Not even anime could save it
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>>154005977
Actually it was worse than they. They started making it edgy so every episode would end on a cliffhanger so people would keep their RT First subscriptions up. Towards the end RT went all in on First because it's where they thought they were making the most money. So every episode had to end on some twist or shocking moment, so that if someone's First sub was up that week they'd reup immediately to not miss the next episode. That's why they did it.
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Ngl part of me wants to believe that the reason why we haven't seen any formal announcement for V10 is because Viz saw what MKEK were cooking and realized why the show was in that state. So now they have to hire competent writers or handlers to keep then in check.
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>>154005977
Funny that you mention GOT because it's been documented that GOT was something Monty was a fan of.

I can't completely fault Miles or Kerry because in some ways they tried. Kerry was a TTGL fan too and Miles showed an interest in folklore and fairy tales (hence the V8 and V9 stuff because it was something they had cooked up with Monty in the early V1-2 days) , but neither of them were really as passionate about Japanese pop fiction as Monty was, especially not whatever Monty was a dedicated fan of.
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>>154006114
>I can't completely fault Miles or Kerry because in some ways they tried
You can try but still be absolute shit at what you are doing.
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>>154006114
Pretty sure Kerry got into anime, mostly n the popular variety of course but he at least did, I'll give him that.
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>>153996760
People really understate how much of RWBY is just "The Blake and Jaune show" all because of Miles unconsciously self-inserting as Jaune (and admittedly Monty having big plans for Jaune's character due to him being Shinji Ikari + Cloud) while having an enormous bias in favor of Blake because he was dating her VA from V1-early V3.

It's why Blake gets nothing but get out of jail free cards and is suddenly a princess, why she's the biggest example of protag-centered morality in the story, why Adam gets turned into a shitty creepy ex caricature (because whoops, Arryn was dating a CW tv actor and dumped Miles for him, and Miles was upset over that, and they doubled down on it when it turned out that said actor was abusive to Arryn), and partly why she gets paired up with Yang (don't forget how Miles okayed her making out with a chick in a hot tub).
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>>154005042
Weiss investing in Jaunecoin
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>>154005550
>>154005340
I mean, yeah, but Monty himself had some kind of autism/ocd/other neurodivergency passed off as "workaholic". When you hear the stories around just how he'd fixate on certain details and just how socially inexperienced he was (the wedding cake story), you really see the picture with him.

Which is what I meant when I said he's "become a distraction."

There's the ridiculously talented animator Monty Oum, and then there's what the RT fandom made him out to be.

If you remember what things were like immediately after his death, there was a genuine concentrated effort to mythologize him when volume 3 was coming out because it created a sense of reverence around the IP.

Even before his death, there was this concept of Monty as not simply a talented animator but a Spielberg tier figure. It really contrasts to the image he had when he was the "Haloid" guy and the RvB animator where they were much more open to joking around about his socially awkward and hyper-fixative figure. They sorta realized there was a better marketing angle moving his image away from that and making him more of "THE UNPARALLELED VISIONARY GENIUS!"

And that progressively bit RT more and more in the ass when the Shane letter dropped. Because they were now the ones spitting on the figure they themselves had basically mythologized.
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>>154006200
Ironic how WK actually came around by having less time screen than Bumblebee being reminded at every fucking second.
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>>154006266
while*
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>>154006266
WK was almost a crack pairing before vol 9
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>>153991405
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>>154006201
qrd on the wedding cake story?

I have no doubt he was an undiagnosed autistic-OCD. He loved Evangelion and JRPGs, that's like crack for undiagnosed autistics. Doesn't hurt that Anno was more than likely undiagnosed himself (he's mentioned that his parents had him late in life, he's picky with food, sucked at socializing for a long time, and Gendo Ikari had Shinji at 35...)
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>>154006111
Didn't Viz hire the old RWBY team? Because i distinctly remember them confirming that V10 was in development..... like 2-3 years ago now.

Did you guys know RWBY has an official youtube channel now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gP6VEdfI0I
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>>154006179
To be fair, if you watch Adam's confrontation with Blake at the end of Volume 3 he's really kind of like that already.

And Jaune is a character I like and think is good, but the way the show uses him makes me hate him sometimes. He just steals scenes and relevance and sorely needed development for other characters. Jaune needs to go back to what he was in Volumes 2 and 3: an important but still minor character mainly used to facilitate other's character arcs.
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>>154006432
The worst part about Jaune is that we keep getting told that he's actually really good at strategy when literally the only times we see him try his hand at strategy it's to tell Nora and Ren to 'follow Ruby's lead' in vol 4 and then then vol 7 where he's in charge of the lamp and immediately loses it and gets penned down by Atlas security. Not like huntsman just basic bitch guards.
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>>153991405
I love how despite pushing it a lot the biggest legacy RWBY has is its main character being supposedly very anti-LGBT.
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>>154006432
Nope, compare Adam in V2 (grr I don't give two shits about Blake) and what scant appearances he has in V3 made before the rewrites pivoting to "MY LOVE". There's also the unused Yang vs Adam fight which was supposed to lead into some whole fucking plotline regarding Raven and whatever connections Adam had to her (note how Raven's introduction parallels Adam's) considering that Sheena recently confirmed that Adam was indeed meant to be related to Raven (which was obvious from the start, they pretty much dress the same).
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>>154006406
Apparently they came included in the package, but I don't think Viz will give then the same kind of liberties as RT had back then.
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>>154006432
>Jaune needs to go back to what he was in Volumes 2 and 3: an important but still minor character mainly used to facilitate other's character arcs.

Hard disagree, honestly he is one of the few characters that somehow had managed to keep some sort of consistency in this mess and I would rather take him over more of the current Blake and Yang, the Rusted Knight stuff is fairly interesting stuff. As mediocre as the writers are, somehow Eddy does well with Jaune.
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>>154002199
Overhaul was a pretty cool guy.
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>>154006432
The funny part about Jaune sucking away character focus is that it's both Miles' and Monty's fault and due to really shitty timing

>Monty insisted on pushing Jaune as a lead
>Miles and Kerry then made the Jaundice arc to segue into more character-centric arcs down the line
>fans complain especially due to the release schedule and pacing
>Miles gets pissed and his takeaway is "fans don't want more character-centric arcs"
>then V3 happened (and it could have been worse, as Monty originally wanted Jaune to be indirectly responsible for Phyrra dying) and blew those plans up because everything now has to be about THE PLOT
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>>154006510
My hot take is that Jaune HAS to be the main character because mostly everything Monty was a big fan of involved an inexperienced audience surrogate/fish out of water/everyman as the male lead protagonist (obviously discounting his love for Yuri manga). Mecha anime and JRPGs were some of Monty's biggest inspirations...

It's no wonder most RWBY fanfiction is just Jaune haremfics or romance with Jaune and the author's preferred female lead.
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>>154006510
He's already had enough though. Weiss didn't even have an arc or anything to do in Volume 9.
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>>154006557
I really can't unsee how RWBY is just Monty's Evangelion Squeenix JRPG Wizard of Oz AU crossover set at a school like in Soul Eater but everyone fights Hollows/Heartless.

Weiss is just "Asuka but with Rei's color scheme and Shinji's and Asuka's combined daddy issues except her dad is President Ice Shinra"
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>>154006555
>It's no wonder most RWBY fanfiction is just Jaune haremfics or romance with Jaune and the author's preferred female lead.
Not much can be done when most of the female character suck except for being hot and all the male characters are ruined except for him somehow, heck Qrow is a husk of his former self.

>>154006557
>He's already had enough though. Weiss didn't even have an arc or anything to do in Volume 9.
Weiss didn't even had an arc in her own hometown, It is more of an issue of the writers struggling with her and they most likely assumed Ice queendom would be enough to make for her.
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>>154006555
It's not "most" RWBY fanfiction, it's more like a separate subset of it. There's the Jaune side and the yuri side and I'd argue Jaune fics like that aren't even made by people who particularly like Jaune or RWBY.
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>>154001902
>mercury

I really wished Monty lived if only to delve further into the alchemical theming of the series. Mercury is a REALLY valuable facet of alchemy, if not the most important aspect outright. Mercurius is the God of Alchemy, after all.

>Mercury is the anti-Yang in every aspect of his design
>Yang is associated with Gold while Ruby is associated with the Stone (Red)
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>>154006465
The thing is, I don't think she is. Her meltdown takes place literally the very next episode after Bumblebee finally kiss. Whoever approved that approach to the pacing, regardless of the time constraints that WB had them under, has all but guaranteed that Ruby will be seen on the internet as a bigot. They can pump V10 out and finally end the show if they want but I don't think they will ever escape the stench of this.
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>>154006696
>has all but guaranteed that Ruby will be seen on the internet as a bigot
Good, she is much more memorable like this.
Also that whole bumblebee thing was a complete asspull.
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>>154006721
>the ̶r̶o̶o̶m̶ bridge you can't leave until you ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶x̶ kiss
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>>154006696
You call it a 'stench'.
I call it a 'dignified aroma'.

May Chad Ruby rule eternal.
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>>154006696
It makes sense since she partially snapped cause she was so upset about seeing the two of them happy while she was miserable.
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>>154006721
I still believe Jaune x Yang was the plan. You don't base a character on Tifa and another after Cloud AND Shinji and then just not pair them up together.

Then again, Jaune was based on the Little Prince and Ruby's the Rose, so...
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>>153991405
Give me your best gym uniform ruby pics
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>>154006837
>>154006465
Ruby shall be remembered as a homophobic gym slut.
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>>154006820
I think Jaune/Yang was the original plan too. Yang even flirted with Jaune a couple of times in the early seasons.
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I'm actually still pissed over how badly they ruined Yang's character. She was great in 1-6 and then they ruined her in 7-9. Second favorite character after Weiss in the earlier Volumes.
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what's the secret to defeating her?
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Every character I like in this faggot show dies
>Roman? Dead.
>Penny? Double Dead.
>Neo? Ascended (Identity Death).
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>>154006903
this definitely goes into schizo territory but:

>Adam is a samurai V Jaune is a knight
>Yang's whole thing is being a tomboyish mama bear partier who drinks which has her parallel Misato, which neatly aligns with MisaShin in NGE
>Jaune's based on Sokka and he ends up with Suki, a girl who can kick his ass

The NGE parallels go deeper. Yang's whole thing is wanting a relationship with a neglectful/deadbeat parent, which is pretty much Misato's whole thing that she has in common with Shinji.

Then again you could easily make an argument for Jaune x Cinder considering the Jaune/Cinder tease in the manga, Jaune being a "prince" and a knight in shining armor (but also associated with farming, making him the Scarecrow) to Cinder's princess, Cinderall, and Dorothy. Then there's the NGE parallels with Cinder as Salem's "Rei"...

>>154006959
Time compression, using the life force of the planet against her, and dunking water on her. If you know, you know.
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>>154006987
Not enough people know about Monty's love of NGE, he watched it more than a dozen times. His love for it is EVERYWHERE in this series:

>Weiss: Ice Asuka
>Blake: I MUSTN'T RUN AWAY
>Yang: Tifa Misato
>Cinder: Asuka (fire) Rei (doll used by the main villain to revive a dead family member) Misato (older woman who's a huge mess)
>Penny: AU Genki Rei
>Ozpin: Gendo Oz
>Summer: Yui, associated with the Moon
>Phyrra: redhead prodigy master who constantly apologizes
>Grimm: Angels (monsters with designed programming that gradually get smarter...and eventually take human form)
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>>154006959
seducing her
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So uh...hey...anybody remember Oscar? Y'know, that guy? The one they made to replace what was obviously supposed to be Jaune's next plot development but they got cold feet because everyone hated how much focus Jaune already got as it is? That guy. How about that Oscar.
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>>154007235
A shame they felt the need to add him and sideline JNPR even more.
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>>154007235
They should have just bit the bullet.

>>154007240
Nah, all signs pointed to Pyrrha coming back within Cinder's mind as a dark parallel to Oz being stuck in Jaune's head.

Summer was probably going to turn out to be Salem's body or be revealed to be some sacrifice preventing Salem from leaving the Grimmlands, stuck in the Grimm spawning pools. Brings everything full circle to the story of Princess Kaguya the Moon Princess and the most important fairy tale of them all, the Buried/Dead Moon.
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Guys I know she's shit but I love Blake so much it's unreal
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>>154007235
Jaune being Ozpin would've been retarded, Oscar being around is better.
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>>154006449
To be fair, everyone's kind of dumb. Like, in vol 8, people were theorizing Cinder knew of Ruby's plan because she had Watts hack their scrolls, which, you know, was very plausible and would show her using her allies' strengths well. But nope. she literally burned a once every hundred year question on it.
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>>154007282
Would've explained why Oz let him into Beacon.

>Likely that Oz was Jaune's ancestor as the King of Vale, hence The Little Prince as an influence and why Jaune has so much Aura.
>Jaune's family crest resembles the crescents behind the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz movie
>Jaune is associated with farming thanks to the Joan of Arc inspiration (who heard the "voice of God/an Angel") and is fixated on Compost King in Chibi
>Jaune literally shows up RIGHT after Oz does in the first opening
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>>154005042
I really want to see Team RWBY petrified into stone statues. I love Tree Neo and would get splinters on my dick trying to fuck her but we need the hot ladies stone cold.
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>>153997057
>yellow trailer
>never got any more of Yang beating up huge mobs of gangster goons, unless you count that one bandit guy,
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>>153994594
You've been posting this for years, they're too haggard now anyways
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>>154006338
THE WHAT COMMUNITY
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>>154001902
He's safe, somewhere the writers can't get to him.
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>>154001902
>last seen going on a trip with Tyrian
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>Jaune finally gets a song to himself in vol 9
>its depressing as hell
Volume 9 may have sucked but it did confirm Jaune as the GOAT friend.
Bro suffered decades of loneliness in a crazy wonderland world all just to wait for his friends to arrive so they can find a way home together, anyone else would have just gone crazy by then.
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>>154008109
>Bro suffered decades of loneliness in a crazy wonderland world
>Ruby only lasted a few days
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>>154008109
I think it was made up to poor Jaune when everyone in team RWBY but Ruby herself getting in on a group hug. The most cucked I ever seen poor Ruby. She at least deserved some of that group hug. Ruby always played good nice girl. He only got moody when the same thing happened even after she took everything serious.
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>>154008161
>Ruby fucking dies
>ten minutes later they give Jaune a group hug
Ruby deserves ALL the hugs.
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>we didn't get an entire arc of depressed angry bad girl Ruby
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>>154008204
Volume 10 we'll get Ruby Rose: featuring Team RJWBY with a Vengeance. Her power up will be conscious control of her silver state.
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>>154006959
through DICKplomacy
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>>154005550
Hazbin has the most obvious mark of ADHD.
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>>154005550
>>154008275
More like "Plot Device of the Week" engagement syndrome. It was literally a battle shounen without an endgame in mind because the original authored died.
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>>154008297
>authored died
author* died
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>>153997342
>Japan are Weissfags
checks out.
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>>154006360
>qrd on the wedding cake story?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyvU32dmzs
It's just a funny story from the old podcast
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>>154007271
Blake was a fun character the first few volumes when the writers remembered she had a character outside of aloof lesbian.
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Personally, my love died after seeing Weiss’ Atlas outfit

She had so many good outfits then she gets a weird braid with the most distracting amount of blue
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>>154006201
Its interesting to look back on how much Monty was praised by the likes of Burnie, Gus, Matt, etc... for this "work ethic" of sleeping at his desk and spending an unhealthy amount of time animating knowing everything we know now about how the animation side of RT was run.
They definitely cultivated a company mindset where everyone should be like that and actually its super cool and awesome to put in insane amount of unpaid overtime for your passion projects.
I wonder what Monty would say if he were still alive today about his unhealthy obsession with animating back then.
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>>154009796
What's funny is Yang basically falls in love with a Faunus version of her mom.
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>>154008109
He shouldn't have gone back to his shitty banana hair when they de-aged him.
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>>154006959
Unironically rape
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>>154007235
I don't actually hate Oscar himself as a character. I think he's well portrayed for what he is. The problem is that you can tell he was hastily made in reaction to them realizing "Jaune's going to consume the show if he becomes Oz's host", so they had to make Second Jaune to offload some of the weight. But you still end up with two Jaunes at the end of the day.
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are the heteros alright?
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>>154010267
Nora was one of the only protagonists who actually showed up and didn't piss me off in Volume 8. She was great.
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>>154010108
Did someone just mention rape?!
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>>153997674
>>153998635

WB Japan basically had a meeting with RT where they said RWBY had lots of potential to be a big hit in Japan but suggested several things to make it more paletable to the expected Japanese audience. Basically lots of waifu and low key perv moments like onsen, beach episode, upskirts etc. RT told them to piss off and they'll do it their way which was selectively thought up to not make any women uncomfortable. So that's what they got.
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>>154010267
No. There's a very loud section of the RWBY fandom trying to argue Nora should be trans despite pointing out the impossibility of a poor orphan being able to acquire any kind of gender affirming medicine or surgery
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>>154009999
Monty would still be doing it because Monty was an autist that was only truly happen in his work. Which is fine, some of the greats were great specifically because of that, but you can't expect everyone to do that
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>>154010331
Fuck off Leaf
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>>154009796
Blake was one of the characters most tied to the backstory and plot, having once been part of the White Fang terror group that fought Weiss' family's company and who were active antagonists (until they suddenly weren't). She was cool, fun, we got some cat jokes here and there...and then they just made her a lesbian and that became her whole thing
>>154010000
Yang has terrible taste and I 100% agree with her, I would choose Blake every time
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>>154010391
The irony is that Viz is still owned by Japanese, so at the end of the day even if the show comes back, they will have to listen to whatever mandates they have.
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>>154010331
>>154010331
>>154010790
>Tfw no Black Souls style RWBY game with Rusted Knight
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>>154010927
For what it's worth, Blake had no character long before she was gay. I think making her gay was just the writers giving her something to do (Yang) because they had no clue what to do with her otherwise.
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>>154007049
So RWBY was basically going to be fantasy NGE but with kung-fu fights instead of mecha? With Salem just actually being the basic end state of the Grimm instead of Ozpin's ex?

Shit that sounds like a better plot than what we got, maybe just rebooting the whole show into a fantasy NGE ripoff mixed with some other story beats from anime Monty liked would be the best outcome at this point.
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>>154011073
>I think making her gay was just the writers giving her something to do (Yang) because they had no clue what to do with her otherwise.

No it doesn't, I agree her story was ass in V4-5 but at least Blake had a sense of purpose in the show. All she did after that is to do shipbait and nothing else, she is essentially just a real doll for Yang.

Killing Adam was actually a mistake for her sideplot as well, at least she had a personal antagonist to build upon but the writers couldn't even handle a character like him properly.
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Yang's the one who was ruined to care about nothing more than getting with Blake. And if we're talking about a character having nothing to do and the writers not knowing what the fuck to do with them the winner is easily Weiss.
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>>154011208
It's all of them really. With the slight exception of Ruby.
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>>154011073
Making her gay obliterated her character. Yang's too. Everything they had going on, good or bad, fell away. They only existed to be in a relationship.
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>>154011208
This. It always makes me laugh when people asked for more team RWBY scenes, and when we got that with V9 it fucking sucked.
The writers are probably too stuck up to admit they fucked up their character arcs so badly.

>Took away anything that made Yang interesting to make her entire character about being a lesbian
>End Blake's arc in the most anticlimatic way just to make her antagonist a toxic ex so the sisters could validate their ship
>Weiss didn't had anything interesting to do in her own hometown, all he family issues just sorted out by themselves

Ruby was only the one with anything thanks to V9 but it took her going into depression and kill herself for that to happen. Making her teammates look worse by extend.
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>>154011388
No, I actually like Volume 9. It's just that Weiss got nothing at all in it and they didn't even try. Weiss could've actually taken Jaune's spot easily. Even Blake and Yang, as much as I hate their romance being canon, it was still something. It was still an arc that had development and resolution.
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>>154011547
>Weiss could've actually taken Jaune's spot easily.
I get the complaint about Jaune getting stuff to do an all but the RK stuff was great for his character so I digress.

For me Weiss's volume should have been V7-8. I actually blame the introduction of Ace Ops and the Happy Huntresses hogging so much screentime in Atlas, heck that volume brought us the infamous scene of Ruby, Weiss and Blake drinking tea while the world was ending outside. Weiss didn't even had a proper resolution with her family issues...
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>>154011678
At the very least, RWBY vs Ace Ops is one of the best fights in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BGnJyYlECY
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>>154011715
It's not terrible but Ruby spent the entire fight playing keep away and never actually attacked Harriet
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>>154007864
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>>154011901
I think that was the point. She was keeping the fast one from interfering with other fights. If Harriet popped in to tag team any of WBY they'd have gone down quick. Then when the rest were cleaned up Weiss helped Ruby beat Harriet.
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>>154011678
Fuck Robyn Hill. Easily the worst character in the whole show.
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>>153996587
>It could easily become something akin to the Fate series.
Mori, the Blazblue guy, liked RWBY enough to force its inclusion into BBtag. But I don't think his autism is anything compared to Nasu.
Could he have done better than what we have now, certainly, but then we'd have threads about how convoluted the story got and which Ruby clone you would fuck.
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>>153991405
>>>/a/
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>>154010927

Unf.
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Thought on Ice Queendom?
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>>154012661
What I've already said, it was okay but it dragged in the middle. I liked the Penny scene with Yang a lot since they didn't really interact in canon. And Nega-Blake had a sexy design. The idea of a Nightmare Grimm is pretty cool too. Yang had like, nothing going on but that's actually no different than Volume 1 where Yang was just sort of "the fourth teammate".
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>>154011678
Did literally anyone in the Schnee family know Jacques died? I forget if Ironwood even mentions it to Winter.
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>>154012333
>which Ruby clone you would fuck.
True lmao
But still man, anime stuff just doesn't work for a western studio. The closest thing would be the Avatar series, but it's not quite it. Studios here just don't have the guts to do what they do. It all becomes super stiff and stifled because 'nonono you cant put this, you can put that, you need to talk about this or that, feature this and that', etc.
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>>153991658
FUCK SHE'S SO HOT IN THIS OUTFIT
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>>154012333
I mean, I'd take it. Blazblue was fun. Just so long as he avoided a Celica esque character
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>>154012974
I love her Volume 7-9 hair, and the choker is really great too.
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>>154012972
Is RWBY the only fake anime series that got a following in Japan? If so, then I think that's quite telling.
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Outfit rankings
Ruby
V4 > V7 > V1 > V2
Weiss
V2 > V1 > V4 > V7
Blake
V4 > V2 > V1 > V7
Yang
V2 > V1 > V4 > V7
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>>154013023
It's a video game but Skullgirls is anime inspired and has some mild popularity in Japan
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>>154013023
As far as I know yes, but I'd assume that's because Monty had real passion for anime stuff, and he put that passion and knowledge into elements of the show.
The designs were on par with what you'd see on an anime, and so were the premise and character behaviors.
After he died and the show was handled by others though, I think that passion slowly got diluted.
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>>154012968
Knowing the writers? they probably know somehow, but technically they never had a word about him, heck they didn't even went to pick him up during the evacuation.
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>>154012333
>>154012997
Speaking of Mori and Blazblue, Viz should really hit his new Flare studio with the RWBY license, at least once his new game comes out.
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>>154013101
A problem is Monty only had passion for specific parts of the show and had zero idea how the actual story would play out.
The girls are cute and the fight scenes are fun but the rest of the show was literally never good. S1 in particular basically has no plot.
RWBY needed at least another year in the oven to cook before releasing but this was the height of RTs supergrowth so it was full steam ahead, "fuck it we'll figure it out later!"
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>>154013151
I don't think more time would've helped much. Later seasons had more time to cook and it didn't really lead to better writing, just more of it.
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>>154013151
This is the elephant in the room people who parade Monty's figurative corpse ignore
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I'd like to cook with you. How do I a beginner activate all the palm oil in your nerves and decrease melatonin and dopamine down to suicidal levels lummoxing destroid zoomspawn?
That's the back of my brain your planning to hurt not my actual feelings.
DEAD EMOTION WHERE YOU CAN(i)T FIND IT
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>>153991405
Can someone please explain this "Ruby is homophobic meme"? Is she just mad that Weiss hasn't put out?
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>>154013301
>Is she just mad that Weiss hasn't put out?
No.
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>>154013301
The joke is that Ruby is super edgy and depressed in the same volume that Blake and Yang go full lesbo with each other.
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>>154013324
Oh, okay. It's just a funny confluence. Got it.
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>>154013301
For most of Volume 9, Ruby is losing her mind, slipping further into a depressive state. It was also the season where Yang and Blake become lesbians with each other. The very next episode, Ruby has a full-on emotional breakdown, and targets some of her rage at Yang and Blake. I believe her issue was that both were acting all happy and carefree while she was depressed. I think what got people was that during this season, Yang seemed concerned with her new lesbian lover than the well being of her own sister. Basically, it was all just unfortunate timing. Well unfortunate for them, everyone else got a kick out of the meme.
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>>154013301
The same episode that confirmed the shows biggest gay ship also has its main character lash out at them and how shes SOOOO HAPPY for them while she's been progressively more depressed the entire season. This sparked the initial memes of people making it seem like Ruby was pissed because she hates dykes.
What really launched Homophobic Ruby into the stratosphere was RT posting about Bumbleby becoming official on twitter making it very obvious this was a desperate "break glass in case of cancellation" move and the replies got flooded with Homophobic Ruby memes.
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>>154013392
>>154013437
I see what they were going for, narratively, but that is some really poor timing. Damn.
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>>154013348
Yes. Her sister is prancing around without a care in the world with her cat toy while Ruby was one small step away from the abyss over how fucked they were.
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>>154013437
>RT posting about Bumbleby becoming official on twitter making it very obvious this was a desperate "break glass in case of cancellation" move and the replies got flooded with Homophobic Ruby memes.

They still do and it's really tiring, you got to their twitter and they have to remind everyone that bumblebee happened, that new bee merch dropped or that Arryn and Barb need to sit together as if they are the ones in the ship.

Ironic because the RK Jaune and Weiss scenes ended obscuring the kiss in terms of views when the episode came.
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>>154013437
It's frustrating how blatantly it was just pandering. How they had to fuck the characters and fuck over Sun to have it happen. I'm a huge yuri fan but I didn't want Blake and Yang to get together and I never shipped them or saw them like that until they started teasing it in Volume 6.
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>>154013151
Actually what happened was they greenlighted Monty's passion project so he'd shut the fuck up about it and get back to working on RvB expecting it to flop immediately, so they could tell Monty "Sorry our audience doesn't like weeb stuff" and be done with it. Instead RWBY somehow became their hottest property much to everyone in the companies shock and much to even of some of their disgust because several of the older gen hated anime type stuff and mocked it. And then suddenly RWBY was what RT was known for and drew a massive anime crowd audience for a company that was mostly used to the frat boy crowd that didn't really know what to do with.
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>>154011547
>Instead of Jaune, Weiss gets trapped in the Ever After for years and becomes a 10/10 hag like her mom.
In over a decade of following RWBY, Jaune never bothered me until this realization, FUCK WE WERE ROBBED!!!
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>>154013301
>be ruby
>sad, depressed, actually suicidal
>see yang and blake being oblivious as shit
>bitches have their whole moment away from everyone to confess to each other
>eventually snap
>yang immediately takes blake's side like the traitorous bitch sister that she is
>ruby rolls her eyes at their whole bitch ass relationship
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>>154013437
>>154013503
It doesn't help that this was right after a part where they all went into a pocket dimension to face their insecurities, but Yang and Blake just got to go for a nice walk and confirm their love for each other.
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>>154013544
>the RK Jaune and Weiss scenes
One million views on that one youtube short, and that way back when the volume came out.
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>>154013572
>How they had to fuck the characters and fuck over Sun to have it happen. I'm a huge yuri fan but I didn't want Blake and Yang to get together and I never shipped them or saw them like that until they started teasing it in Volume 6.

They did a fantastic job for Blake and Sun to be a thing since V1, so naturally it was the the result most people expected to happen, only a group of lesbians were really loud about Bumblebee and RT naturally though it was their golden ticket and an easy way to gain some brownie points. It was all just a way to farm engagement by dragging ship baiting.

That's why separating Sun from Blake and killing Adam in V6 was a very safe move to kickstart the ship, the rematch between him and Yang was fated to happen so they threw everything into the pot.
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>>154013646
She would be flat tho, make it to be both of then so you can get away with her being a milf at least.
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>>154013730
Could have them get together during that time and after they get reverted they can have a will they won't they on if they'll stay together or not.
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>>154008109
>>154008172
>>154010992
It's surreal how they fumbled arguably the best Jaune design for the fucking banana
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>>154013576
Their own fault for dragging RvB out and it sucking for years. RvB had gone downhill before RWBY even came out.
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>>154013664
This kind of conflict is always stupid.
>Listen, babe. I love you, but my sister is kinda going through some shit. Can we address that real quick?
>Oh sure. She's my friend, so I'll also help her deal with her shit.
I never understand why people seem to think that loved ones are mutually exclusive. See also, Mystery Incorporated. What the FUCK was any of that?
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Will they ever bring the Ruby VTuber model back?
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Do NOT google what Rubys voice actress is up to these days.
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>>154014099
Velma was pretty bitchy in that, but to be fair Shaggy also wasn't being that great either. As for Bumblebee I think part of what made it worse was Yang was also being a moody bitch for most of the volume and then when Ruby pseudo killed herself she barely reacts.
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>>154014158
Onlyfans? Last I checked all 4 had one.
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>>154014177
I blame Scooby for that mess, honestly. He was the one forcing the issue.
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>>154014177
They ruined Yang's character after Volume 6. She spent 4-6 actually growing and getting a handle on her emotions, and then they threw it all out and made her a simp for Blake who did out of character shit just to impress her and cared more about what Blake thought than anything.
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>>154006200
She's got a preview of his "Mature" self. She's sold.
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I'll actually say something positive about the later seasons though. Volumes 7, 8 and 9 have probably my three favorite opening songs and the rest of the music in Volume 9 is really good too.
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>>154014236
Lets just say some people might be upset if you still refereed to her as "she"
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>>154014338
Trust Love is a banger. Might be my favorite opening.
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Yang's Yangs
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>>154014345
Meh, the same can apply to Utada Hikaru, but that won't stop me from listening to her- I mean, their music.
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>>154014399
Utada Hikaru cloned herself and is now a music group.
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>>154013837
Man, I was there when they put the original RWBY Red trailer at the end of an RvB episode. What was it, Season 8? I'm pretty sure it was the episode where Tex fought Wash and Meta in the Avalanche map. Or maybe it was a finale episode after that? Either way, it was such a surreal moment, going from a halo machinima to an anime girl wordlessly massacring werewolves with a gunscythe.
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>>154013128
Mori has kojima-esque issues of his own. Mainly his love for bloat and procrastinating. I know it's only been three years but we only have visuals of notSilver Wolf, notRagna, not Hazama, and notRaquel and no idea what they are even cooking.
Meanwhile, I want arcsys to keep their filthy hands away from BB.
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I want to cum inside Ruby's butt
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>>154014360
Inside is my number one.
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It's fucked up that all of Yang's personality and heterosexuality was located in her right hand
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>>154014472
>Mainly his love for bloat and procrastinating. I know it's only been three years but we only have visuals of notSilver Wolf, notRagna, not Hazama, and notRaquel and no idea what they are even cooking.
Apparently is an RPG, If I have to guess it's probably based on what he wanted to with Blazblue at some point before it became a fighting game + some of the stuff he still had planned for the series.

>I want arcsys to keep their filthy hands away from BB.
Aside Entropy Effect, I don't think Arcsys knows what to do with Blazblue without Mori and now that Guilty Gear is back as their mainline series, doubt they want the games competing so the only safe thing would be doing new content for BBTAG, it somehow has an active scene, There's still some of the old staff from team blue there.
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>>154013805
The worst part is that they know people hated the banana hair and were shocked by the reaction, but they still want to insist on keeping it. They even updated it with white strands of hair when rejuvenated instead of just letting him keep the long hair and armor.

>>154014298
It also adds up that he resembles her grandfather, the only positive parental figure she ever had.
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It genuinely still astounds me that a majority of people STILL want a Volume 10 despite the absolute shit show and filler that was Volume 9.
Why? Is it because they want to know how bad the ship can crash or something? The "ending" would be the biggest asspull of all time for sure.
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>>154014665
Sunk cost at worst. Nothing wrong with wanting a proper ending whether it be good or bad.
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>>154014665
A lot of people are invested in the trainwreck and want some sense of closure with it, is not that hard to understand.
There's the hope of perhaps writers learning mistakes which everyone knows it will never happen but having Viz taking control of the IP sounds more reassuring to keep then in check instead of all the freedom RT had.
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>>154014665
I liked Volume 9. It was a big improvement over 7 and 8.
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>>154014772
It was a filler waste of time that was full of depression and suicidal themes during a time that was already depressing. 7 and 8 wers godawful but 9 managed to top them both in how flatout pointless it was.
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>>154014772
>>154014930
At the very least the story was progressing in 7 & 8(not something that can be said for most seasons of rwby). It wasn't good but it was nice to see ya know the plot happening.
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>>154014772
I agree, better than 6 too imo.
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>>154014665
As much as I'm bored of the later direction of the show it would be wrong if they didn't continue and finish it out
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>>153996760
I likedthe idea that Blake’s love towards Adam was pretty one sided because it was more of a mentor-student/senpai-kouhai relationship. But Adam is so spiteful he just called Blake “my beloved” just to hurt her more
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>>154014710
If Viz had any brains they'd just throw out all but the IP in general and restart with coherent writers and a plan to tell a concise story that isn't dragged out for years and years
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>>154015460
Apparently MKEK (or at least Kerry) came in the package so they can't get rid of then out of the blue, so if V10 happens then it will be more out of courtesy and fill the drought.

Viz isn't RT thankfully, they have to answer comply with their Japanese bosses, if they want to make more money with this IP then a reboot or spin-offs need to happen in the long run, there's too much lack of faith with the stuff done by RT.
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>>153999575
>Qrow - Jensen Ackles
Sheer dimes, it would draw the house. Because whatever shit you put Ackles in, he can turn it to gold. Look at The Boys.
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>>154015721
RWBY seems like pretty prime material for doing a post-apocalyptic reboot. You know, like what Avatar is doing even though no one thought "Post-apocalyptic Avatar" was a good pitch besides the kind of schizophrenics who made Fallout ponies a thing.
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>>154006338
THE GAY COMMUNITY?!
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>>154006338
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>>154013215
whats up with shizos nowadays. Even when im posting on /f1/ or /v/ while on drugs its not as shizo as this
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>>154015981
It's a lost bot
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need more zombie ruby
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>>154015753
too bad he got ruined in season 5. Lost all his charm from season 3. He should have been a tertiary force acting against both butcher and homelander, killing both in the final episode.
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>>154015873
Ruby cried a little when he retired.
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>>153998279
>Cardin never apologized for being racist.
Was Cardin even racist?
He moves on to bullying Jaune right after that so I think he's just a prick
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>>154017364
During one of the classroom scenes, he basically calls Faunus stupid animals.
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A lot of people call Weiss racist but she barely even counts as prejudiced. Anyone who immediately gets over her teammate being Blake can't be called genuinely racist.
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>>154011073
Blake had a character towards the beginning, one closely tied to the world and the ongoing plot, but the fact you don't recognize that is more a testament to Miles and Kerry's shitty writing than anything else.
>>154011208
Oh they did Weiss so dirty, she also had a ton of ties to the overall plot. She was the best character by default and once they left Atlas it was all wrapped up and now she is just there. They're all just...there
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>>154017401
It's a terrible thing when a man is shamed for simply speaking the truth.
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>>154017513
Weiss was completely justified in her thinking and is never proven wrong
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>>154012661
Convinced me to take the yuri-pill.
7/10
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>>154017651
>This is how Weiss sees Blake
Based and I am willing to share, Weiss
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>>154017501
in the real world they would had banged later that evening
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It hasn't been the same since that booze company got assfucked
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>>154017706
fanart agrees.
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>>154017501
The funniest thing is later learning Velvet is a second year and presumably could have kicked his ass at anytime during this, but chooses not to.
Ear pulling is clearly her fetish and it’s like >>154017706 said, they totally are fucking.
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>>154017575
I said long before she was gay, not never. I know she had a character in the first few volumes.
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Is this...eh...show (?) worth watching?
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>>154017575
It's kinda funny how the whole White Fang and Schnee Dust Company conflict is just a distant background element in V1-3, yet it still has more weight and impact on the story and characters then than it does when they're actually physically in Atlas.
It takes very special writers to completely lose the plot by focusing too hard on the plot.
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>>154017803
If you like fights and anime bullshit you'll enjoy the first 3 volumes. If you like watching a dumpster fire take the potential and run it into the ground in fantastic ways you'll enjoy the rest.
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>>154017803
No, leave before you fall into this sinkhole of disappointment and sunken cost
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>>154017706
>>154017722
>>154017766
Ever noticed how Cardin stopped being a problem after Volume 1? Velvet gave him rape correction.
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>>154017803
Not really? I would had suggested it more if the rest of the show was like the first 3 volumes when it was light hearted battle shounen. It literally just became a shitshow from a small group of creators that had no direction in mind but catering to the whims of their most autistic and loudest """"fans"""".
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>>154017948
I should also add that the villain won! For all intent and purpose, Salem won.
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>>154017501
>>154017722
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>>154018008
Salem doesn't win until the Gods have destroyed the planet
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This has been a very civil, constructive, and high-quality thread by RWBY standards. Anyone got any favorite fanfics?
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>>154006959
should have just trusted the plan
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>>154017695
And in Blake's own dream version saw herself wearing freaking cat paws, a buttplug tail and a collar, she just needed a leash to complete the combo
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>>154018019
>floppy eared rabbit child
domestication via breeding for docile traits
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>>154018188
No because apparently no one wants to do a straight Ruby x reader fic.
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>>154017695
Well yeah IQ takes place in V1, Weiss was still racist.
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>>154017936
>Cardin got HOPPED
truth
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>>154018634
Be the change you want to see
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>>154018188
that Lovecraft cross
the multiple personality Ruby one
Couer's Roman fic
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>>154018425
>a buttplug tail
How much do you think they regret the "one animal trait per person" rule for faunus?
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>>154018188
>This has been a very civil, constructive, and high-quality thread by RWBY standards.
shut up!
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>>154006959
Just launch her into orbit
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>White Fang present at the Fall of Beacon
>All over the news
>Openly gloat about it
>To a world that's already racist towards Faunus
There would have been global pogroms against Faunus populations all over Remnant after that shit.
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>>154018188
fiction.live has Jaune with disco elysium voices in his head, that one was schizo fun. Not very far in though, I'm not going to get super invested unless it can get past Vytal.
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>>154018286
Wasn't his plan running away?
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>>154019962
A second rate plan, he should have left running away to the master
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>>154018634
I'd do it, but that would require so much rewriting to make it good it'd be like making your own series
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>>154015721
I expect they're giving them one volume and one volume only to prove themselves. If V10 fails to make headway then that's it, they're cutting Kerry off beyond VAing probably
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>>154019962
escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Grimm... SPACE!
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>>154020061
That's the roadblock I've reached as well
>Do I really want to rewatch all of RWBY just to have a self insert romance the girl who ends up being in the top five hottest in volume 7? (top 1 in her Justice League outfit)
And the answer always ends up being
>Maybe? Nah.
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>>154020107
I feel like V10 will be heavily mandated by Viz to work with their vision and sell more goods later, they know RWBY as most likely not as profitable under RT management. Of course they don't want to get rid of the old staff just to not rile up the RT fandom that got attached to then, but of course Viz aren't going to take the risk of investing any money just out of good will for Kerry and his friends, they need their own piece of the pie too will keep an eye on then.
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>>154020332
>Of course they don't want to get rid of the old staff just to not rile up the RT fandom that got attached to them
I find that funny considering most RWBY fans seem to dislike to loathe the writers
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>>154020590
The dislike is there, but Kerry managed to gain the goodwill of the fandom by turning into the spokesperson of any RWBY news. Miles was already less involved in the last few years and most folk probably don't even know about Kiersi.
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>>154019962
at least he HAD a plan, unlike mr wizard over there
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>>154020332
>>154020590

Most of RWBY fandom is gone. Only a very niche audience is left, mostly Bumblebee shippers and people that are sunk cost to see the story end no matter what. Most of the casual fans left years ago, and they almost certainly bled more with the long break
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>>154020878
Don't forget the waifubait anons who have accepted that their favorite girl is from a dead shitty show, I know him because he's me
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>>154020878
>mostly Bumblebee shippers
Really? I thought they were an ephemeral lot.
I expected only the diehard fans to remain.
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>>154020332
Is anyone actually attached to Miles and Kerry? I'm pretty sure everyone knows they're hacks
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>>154020878
Not much can be said when you consider RT is gone, the franchise being dead for a while until Viz picked it up and still has to reveal what they are working on. The damage is done but it can still pull a comeback as long Viz are the ones in control; I do agree they should just do a full on reboot though.

>>154020928
It is only a vocal group of fans, but the writers and VAs had to remind everyone about the ship all the time as if something that noteworthy.
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>>154019962
Technically his plan was to unite Remnant and take the fight against Salem directly..... which is a good chunk of why Ruby didn't tell him the plan was doomed because she's immortal and there's nothing that can be done to stop her..... except uniting remnant and calling the gods forth. From this point of view not telling Ironwood was the correct choice since his plan would inadvertently work. Once he found out she was immortal and decided to run and hide even if that meant killing Mantle himself there was basically 0 chance at victory from his actions.

So honestly Ruby made 100% the correct call in not telling Ironwood and trying to get his plan to come to fruition
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>>154021083
>the writers and VAs had to remind everyone about the ship all the time as if something that noteworthy
Because they've been pandering to the most obnoxious people in their fan base since volume 6, and that's the only substance that Blake and Yang have anymore
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>>154021201
Was kind of wild to me that their arc in the ever after was to decided to start going out when i thought they'd been dating for several volumes by that point.
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>>154021271
They were probably going to keep dangling the teasing for as long as they could until they realized V9 could be it so it was now or never to shovel it in. If they knew they'd get a V10 they probably would have kept stringing the shippers along
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>>154008227
>YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF NOW!
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Seeing a Korra thread up reminded me that at least Bumblebee is better than Korrasami.
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>>154022201
Nah, Korrasami was bad but at least it had the decency to not take up a bunch of screentime
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>>154021902
dude dont joke
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Torchwick a better villain.
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>>154022334
I just need an edit of that still anon. Not saying it to anyone specific.
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>>154020878
even the shippers are gone or inactive, RN the only ones that keep the franchise alive are gooners who still commission art or gooner artists that still love their designs
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>>154021165
not sure if making Team RWBY right via opposition being hillariously retarded is the power move people think it is
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>>154022201
No, Bumblebee was way more obnoxious, Yang's entire character ended up being sucked in to revolve around Blake and nothing else, while Book 4 of Korra just quietly dropped in handholding right before the final credits rolled.

Korra never had a moment comparable to
>Yeah.... Ruby
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Monty Oum dying utterly ruined this franchise.
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>>154022597
more so
I take it as a bad idea to make Ruby Rose edgy
they would steal that bit
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>>154022825
Honestly I wonder what RWBY would have looked like if Monty hadn't died. RT leadership was so incompetent I think the show was doomed either way but it would have been different.

He was a good animator/choreographer but he was also a terrible showrunner and an ADHD idea guy with a lot of questionable ideas.
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>>154022899
V1 of RWBY was objectively cheap trash and already had bad writing, but people liked it because of the over the top fight choreography with cute girls. Its really the only thing the show needed.
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>>154022899
The difference between Monty and M/K is that he focused on making rwby fun to watch instead of trying to be some super deep story without knowing how to do it.

The fights were cool, the characters had dynamic personalities that made them all enjoyable, and while it looked janky it had a clear style that was aesthetically pleasing. And most of all, he leaned into how ridiculous the premise was with things like the battle on the highway or the food fight. Modern rwby would never do something so fun or interesting because it takes itself too seriously.
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>>154022899
I'm put in the mind of Star Wars during and post Lucas. Lucas was a pure ideas, action figures clanging together man. The PT was a trash fire because he couldn't, and not for a lack of trying mind you, mind anyone to execute, or edit it, like he had with the OT. But that entire era was overflowing with ideas and its many, many stupid bits and silly parts are now kind of beloved because they just have that certain something. And most of all, it flourished during that era. Star Wars died for a bit in the 80's and 90's, but post the PT, for all it's flaws, it really never went away again. Disney bought Star Wars for 4 billion USD because of the state of the franchise the PT had made, not the OT.

Meanwhile, the ST has that "this is STAR WARS again" solidness to its production. But god, is it boring. Parts are fun, some things are interesting, but as an era? No one gives a shit. The Magic is gone. Even the bad magic.

So that's what I think Monty RWBY would've been like. Lots of magic, lots of cringe, but once it was in the rear view mirror, people would've thought of even that part of it fondly.
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>>154022668
Yeah she's already the audience surrogate.
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>>153994594
>>153999575

>Salem - Eva Green
>Hazel - Jason Mamoa
>Cinder - Camila Mendes
>Watts - Sacha Baron Cohen
Tyrian - ??
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Seeing a lot of posts here that constantly have to preface the existence of post-Monty volumes with
>no one actually cares or watches it though
as if any group would let something go on for six more seasons if no one cared. It's one thing to not like those volumes, but let's not pretend it's only the first three that have any sort of pull. "Cute girls fighting" could've only gone so far.
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>>154023623
Half of the pull of the later volumes were people deep into sunk cost hoping it'd get as enjoyable as the first 3. I kinda doubt many people got into it for what comes after.
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>>154022899
Monty wasn't just the animation guy but part of the soul and creativity behind the series as a whole. What the show had going for was the combination of Monty's creative brain with M/K sorting his ideas to make and story that worked. The reality RWBY was always going to struggle with bad writing but is not like other franchises had done well despite their messy writing. Between the over the top fights, the cute cringe moments and easy to pick up nature it was doing enough to compensate such shortcomings.

This idea of trying to make RWBY dark and tragic is not bad but it clearly became what the writers can only thing that could keep coming back to farm engagement with the show after V3. In fact it is one of the most regular complaints I've seen the Japanese having with the post-Monty era now that I remember.

Also ironic his ADHD brain came up with Neo one day out of the blue and just so years later she became the cashcow of the franchise.

>>154023623
Pretty sure most of the folk that watched anything after V4 just did it hopping the show would be as fun again, like sure later volumes did had some nice moments but there's a reason why a lot of people dropped the show.
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>>154006406
>Because i distinctly remember them confirming that V10 was in development..... like 2-3 years ago now.
Nah, they confirmed that they were writing the script drafts (something they had said a year before).
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>>154024324
>his ADHD brain came up with Neo
A random female cosplayer came up with her, you mean.
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>>154024625
I wonder if anyone has pictures of how the original cosplayer looked, all we know is that it was a female Torchwick cosplay and Monty came up with the rest like Ice cream element or something like that.
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>>154006903
>Jaune is blonde like Yang's dad and possibly has similar traits
>Blake has similar traits to Yang's blood related mom
I think Yang has some issues
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>>153996908
Truly no unique experiences, eh?
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>>153996908
>you're lack of experience
TYPO DETECTED! Now I can safely ignore the rest of the text
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>>154024773
Yeah, mommy issues just like Weiss has daddy issues.
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>>154007960
Actually he was last seen breaking the Vaccuo book villains out of jail.
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>>154025628
>”If only you knew how bad things really are”
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It’s kinda strange that the Crown is portrayed as being evil because they want Vacuo to be more than a glorified refugee camp, and the good guys want it to remain as such.
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>>154022767
Doing that to Yang was awful, a total character assassination of the once fun-loving tough big sister. They just dropped who she was entirely! Is forgetting family a symptom of lesbianism?
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>>154025936
A smart series would have the team see both sides. They'd see how the refugees were bearing on Vacuo's resources and culture, but also show the struggles of the refugees and that they don't really have anywhere else to go. Instead, they're just gonna have the Vacuo king be another Trump expy and team RWBY are just gonna force the king to have the refugees stay. Probably by stopping some big threat with the help of some random refugee with a semblance and then be like "see they're helping!".
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>>154025936
>>154026528
If they were smart they would drop this entirely. Drop all politics like this, or Viz would force them to, because it's totally fucking irrelevant just like the stuff in Volume 7. Not to mention the refugee stuff is totally out of date now. But they really just need to focus on the plot and the conflict with Salem, not this sort of crap.
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I wonder just how long they were stuck in the ever after world for?
>tfw RWBYJ were already written off as MIA
>tfw Ren and Nora lost another team member as well as their friends
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>>154026568
Just thinking about it, if they were still at RT they would probably pull up the ICE expy shit too with all the refugees.
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>>154026787
Most likely just a couple of months, I don't think they could organize that much people in so little time, but also I don't think Mercury and Tyrian would take that long to make arrive and destabilize things around.
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>>154026568
No joke, at this point I'd just hand it over to the Japs and tell them they have free reign to do whatever they want as long as the stuff established in seasons 1 & 2 is kept in. Let them make up whatever Canon they want and call it an official AU with a name and everything and see what they do.
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Arkos is the best ship! It got three songs! THREE OF THEM!



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