Early y2k 2d animated films felt like they were building up to something great, they have an awkward transitional feel to them that, nowadays, makes them feel like masterpiecesAnd then they just stopped existing
Not really, they feel like the awkward puttering out of an era that came before and was significantly stronger. There was a real sense of "man they just don't make them that good anymore" and it's a big reason the box office numbers became worse and worse as this era went on. The only movie from that era that really feels like it matches up with the earlier stuff is Lilo and Stitch, while both Emperor's New Groove and Road to El Dorado get close in their own ways but miss the mark in others. The rest have moments of greatness scattered across otherwise weak films or bafflingly poor decisions that bring the whole movie down. It really feels like a silver age.
Sinbad is no masterpiece
>>153994482Eris
Not a good plot twist, if you ask me
>>153994135I'll give you El Dorado, Atlantis, Spirit and Treasure Planet. But the others? No. They're too flawed
>>153994135Y2K films were kind of the last hurrah for 2D animation in the west.
>(one of the crew members) "Eight months in the sea with nothing but eggs and pickles, you don't know what that can do to a man">(Sinbad himself) "We have excellent ocean views, luxurious living quarters, with three gourmet meals a day: pickles, eggs, and pickles"Sinbad was a bad captain if that's the only thing he fed to his crew
MOOOOOODS
>>153994135It's because 3DCG is cheaper than 2D and 3D animators aren't unionized like 2D animators and Princess and the Frog was a historic flop because audiences despise 2D and other talking points /co/ made up
Oh God it's one of these threads, I regret posting >>153994402 in good faith
>>153994766>>153994822Is this one of those "OMG GUYS DON'T TALK ABOUT POOPDICK THI IS SUCH A POOPDICK POST""Who the fuck are you talking about""WE GOT HIM POOPDICK SPOTTED"
>Titan A.E. killed Fox Animation Studios and Don Bluth/Gary Goldman's carrer>Osmosis Jones killed Warner Bros Feature Animation>Sinbad killed 2D DreamWorks movies
>>153994402A lot of the films made during this time feel like passion projects that were begrudgingly greenlit as a response to adult animation becoming more and more popular. Almost every animated film in the OP pic is edgier than anything those studios released the decade before, visually or narratively.>>153994836Sort of, it's just a containment thread for one guy to steamroll every other post with his own opinions and disengage from whatever everybody else is saying
Titan A.E. and Sinbad aren't very good at all
>>153994135I still don't understand how Atlantis and Treasure Planet managed to flop. Titan A.E., sure, but those first two are easily two of the greatest things Disney's released so far this century. We haven't seen that kind of ambition from them in ages now..
>Jimbo! l got two new friends l'd like you to meet.... Say hello to Mr. Mop and Mrs. Bucket
>>153994135All of those movies are boring
>"You see, gentlemen, any horse can be broken. There are those in Washington who believe the West will never be settled, the Northern Pacific Railroad will never breach Nebraska... a hostile Lakota will never submit to Providence, and it is that manner of small thinking that would say this horse could never be broken. Discipline, time, and patience are the three great levelers"
>>153999375It's called "collecting Shrek and Harry Potter's sloppy seconds," those movies ate up all the box office. Treasure Planet and Atlantis looked boring and Disney was still for little girls and kids. Those movies didn't appeal to anyone.
>Atlantis: 84 million>Spirit: 73 million>El Dorado: 50 million>Treasure Planet: 38 million>Sinbad: 26 million>Titan A.E: 22 millionDomestic box office
>>153994135nobody fuckin watched these movies that's why they stopped makin em
>>154000805wasn't the issue for over half of those movies being released alongside much much bigger films
>>153999730No, you are just filtered.
>>153994804>It's because 3DCG is cheaper than 2D and 3D animatorsIt's not, like I don't understand why you people keep saying this. It's been proven several times that 3D movies are generally more expensive to make. OP wasn't even talking about animation style which was dominated by 3D in early 2000s anyways
Sinbad is the only one that doesn't have any lyrical songs
>>154000941Okay, and... ?
Proteus was a sainthttps://youtu.be/5Mxxu0dPQUI?si=NgZrFRHpst7zoZskhttps://youtu.be/C3RtfjigZc4?si=nj8ygCrbX8q2ndlS
>>153994135It was a period when studios wanted to show off their experiments in interacting 2D animation with 3D, which is why so many films at that point had an emphasis on spectacle and big action setpieces.
>>153994135The Iron Giant has better writing than any of them
>>153999730im going to kill you in real life
>>154003249Iron Giant counts, it's 1999.I'd say the era probably is 1999-2004 (though 2004 is a bit pushing it)
Consider Eris~
>>153994135Atlantis=/>Treasure Planet>El Dorado>>Titan AE>>Sinbad>Spirit
>>153994135I grew up with the classic disney films on vhs. 2000s 2D films looked so clean in comparison, and the subtle use of 3D was so high tech.I really thought it was the future of animation. I didn't realize 3D was already creeping in to replace it.
Tried watching Osmosis Jones the other day and it was painful to sit through.
>>154006192I'M COOL (daddy) COOL
>>153997336I'll cut you
>>153999740he was right
>>153994482Why does no one like it? Its like my third favorite dreamworks movie.
>>153999375I don't know either, I saw both on theaters twice
>>153994482>>153994493SEXwithERISLike that's what I would have done if I were Sinbad. Why would I care about some bitch and my retarded friend when I can have a goddess instead.
>>153994135These posters are seriously epic
>>153994482but it is kino, and it is sovl
>>153994135Kid me was shocked seeing humans take such a huge loss in Titan AE
>>154008296That doesn't mean anything to the executives strictly looking to turn a profit.
>>153994523We didn't ask you
Korso looked a bit excited when Preed was about to kill Cale and Akima after cornering them inside the Titan
>>154005668I really REALLY like her :)
>>153999740They got oil and casinos in the end.
The last hurrah of 2D animation was kinda interesting. Pretty much all of it flopped at the time with a big "meh" to outright hatred of most of them but most of them are looked pretty positively now. Lost art (in both meanings of the phrase) is it people being a bit more insulated from the design by comittee aspect of a lot of these films?Also, memes aside and a couple of songs way more better than the film deserved, this was a piece of shit.
>>153994402>The only movie from that era that really feels like it matches up with the earlier stuff is Lilo and StitchI find Brother Bear on par with Lilo and Stitch, at least.>>153994135Out of these, Road to El Dorado is probably my favorite.>>153994493>>154005668Her animation alone deserved an award.