>people are actually now pretending the Boys comic is good because the last two seasons of the tv show were mid as fuck
>>153998162Do you think Garth Ennis said this and made this face when he made this edgelord comic?
>>153998162>midWishful thinking
>>153998228Meow
>>153998454Robo Meow
>>153998162It's cope.
>>153998162That one single twist was actually pretty good and retroactively makes Homelander a kinda sorta victim since he blamed himself for all of the evil things Black Noir did.
>>153998162Mid is an overstatement, and limiting it to only the last two seasons is retarded. Homelander carries the whole show and even he struggles constantly with the awful material they gave him to work with.
>>153998162The moral: Garth Ennis is a edgy hack.
More like The Goys lol
>Quality doesn't matter as long as it owns the chuds.Every time.
>>153998841who are you quoting?
I did things.
>>153998162The comics are puerile slop that simply isn't palatable to an refined intellectual like me.
On a related note happy Men’s Mental Health Awareness Month!
>>153998162>hheeeennhhhHow the gell do you say that
>>153998162all of the show was fucking dog shiti watched it until season 4 like a year or two back because i was on sick leave because of my fucked up wrist
>>153998162The comic's ending was not that bad. The only reason people give for why they think it's bad is "it wasn't foreshadowed" when it was.
>>153998976https://voca.ro/13eL1p3rgj6T
>midShit*Season 1 was good, season 2 was mid, season 3 was bad, seasons 4 and 5 were shit.
>>153998162I only like the funny face edits
>>153998976Some have said it's the noise from breathing in duress, but I figured it was a more strained chuckle version of https://youtu.be/K8jl7hBeYto?si=yrNW3aM1omNWYgx-&t=13while going over in his head how well getting his kicks while framing Homelander all worked out.
>>153999249It's foreshadowed from issue 3. People just hate on the comics without reading them. Noir is literally Homelander's shadow. The talking in the mirror scene is foreshadowing of a clone. Other characters literally ask what's the deal with Noir.
>>154001515>foreshadowed from issue 3Are you talking about the fact that they have the same ass? Bravo Ennis, I didn't even notice.
>last two seasonsThis nigga thinks the show was ever good lmao
>>153999249>Noir inexplicably surviving the plane crash>Homelander asking Butcher why he hates him because he has no memory of the two ever interacting before>Vought running that simulation of who would win in a fight between the Seven and the Boys and the only survivors being Noir and Homelander>Black Noir does the “hnnnnnggg” line in a previous issue (can’t find the specific one though).>Callback to the twist in Marshal Law, which is clearly a big influence on the comic>You could also argue it’s a play on classic Silver Age comics where Batman and Superman would swap identitiesYou can hate the actual contents of his book, but Ennis is a structurally sound writer. People just throw a bitch fit cause he’ll say the word nigger.
>>153998162The show being dogshit makes the comic look better yes
>>153998976>How the gell do you say thatI always pictured it like a long wheeze mixed with a strained giggle.
>>154001966> People just throw a bitch fit cause he’ll say the word nigger.Funniest thing is he wasn't just saying it to say it. He says nigger because The Deep (who is black in the comics) punched out the front windows in the plane which fucks everything up even further.
>>154001515>It's foreshadowed from issue 3.As well as Butcher being a compulsive manipulator and liar as well as a control freak.
I don’t understand how another villain coming in at the last moment and stealing the spotlight was supposed to be satisfying.Maybe it was an intentional anti climax but even if the twist is cool on paper, it doesn’t feel like it was planned
>>154002305Pic related is the villain
>>153998162idk man but the edits in tiktok using phonk are raw af
>>154002305Is this anon a retard who never read the comics or a retard who missed the plentiful foreshadowing staring him in the face? You be the judge.
>>154002393The entire point of the comics are the supes are a red herring, while Billy has been foreshadowed as a monster the whole time.
>>154002530>The entire point of the comics are the supes are a red herringIt's said outright on both the last arc and in the denounement.
>>154002305because homelander isn't the villain and never was, he's just a regular celebrity asshole who's been manipulated and gaslit half his lifebutcher is the biggest monster in the book
>>154002305is this a joke? homelander was never "the villain" at all. He is just another supe trying to do some asshole stuff that every generic supe does.Meanwhile you have Butcher manipulating Hughie life to fit with his plan.
Marvel's editorial decisions in a nutshell.
>>154002305The point was to rob Butcher out of a climactic action hero revenge to further drive point of a theme that's been getting built up by his relationship with Ughie. Namely that needless violence = bad, and not what Becca wouldve wanted.
>>154002305Excuse me sir, i think there's someone you've confused the final villain for
better than anything DC and Marvel have shat out in the 2010s and now
>>154004301SafeLGBTslopRepresentation.ong
>>153998849Eric Kripke
chuds at it again just like with this shit
A thread about The Boys? Perfect excuse to post this old gem.
>>153998976Gell if I know
>>153998162It's a 5/10 comic. That makes it better than most of the comic books I've read.
>>154004738>comicbooks mate, will rot your brain.
>>154004738This fag was always Garth Ennis's self-insert
>>154005103Hughie was also an insufferable faggot so that makes sense.
>>154005126What did Hughie ever do to you?
>>154005235Annoy me.
>>153998841SEETHING MIGApede.
>>154005241How?
>>153998162Not sure anyone is actually calling them good, just more competently written. Some may say stuff like Black Noir being Homelander's contingency clone that went haywire is a bad twist... But even if you think that, how is changing him into a guy who does nothing then dies, gets replaced by another guy who does nothing and dies as well in any way an improvement? The show is full of shit like that which just makes it less tightly knit.And the show didn't suck in the past two seasons, it sucked since season 2, it's 80% suck.
>>154005338His relationship with Starlight was a slog to read. His fuckups were neither endearing nor funny, and the retread of Hughie backing out of being part of The Boys was tiring. I was sick of him by the time the comics were done.
>>154004738Did he really deserve to die for this?
>>154005548According to sane, rational people: No.According to sociopaths, groomers, and the mentally ill: He got off too easy.
>>154005548Nope. The average is a sex-obsessed weirdo who isn't going to be good company, and is going to groom any child they're left alone with. It's on them to be better people, not you to tolerate the bad ones.
>>154001966There's also the part in Herogasm where he finds that the boys are on the island and molests Hughie, but does not reveal them to anyone.>Good soldier
>>153998162It’s not good, but it is better.
>pretendingit's not Ennis' best but it has good moments and basically objectively has more consistent theming than the show. >end of the comicfinal villain defeated is stillwell, the representation of the capitalist force that created the supe problem in the first place>end of the showstillwell analogue goes undefeated because amazon needs him to establish their cinematic universe and make money
Enjoy it folks, this is the closest we'll ever get to seeing Hillary Clinton made fun of.
So much of the critique of the show says borderline illiterate shit like "He's not criticizing anything, there's no commentary he's just shitting on superheroes" that it's hard to believe that most people aren't just influenced by youtubers when talking about their opinion of the comic >>154002305I understand why this would confuse people after watching the show but the story isn't about Homelander. Homelander is a bum. He's a dime a dozen supe who was given unusual power and otherwise there is nothing special or interesting about him.Black Noir being the true cause of Butcher's woes hammers in a few things:>Vought is the real villain, even Homelander was victimized by them>Homelander is not special in any way, he's just a douchebag who got gaslit- the story isn't about HIS evil because the inciting incident wasn't even him>Butcher's revenge is a pointless sham built on a lie
>>154006140Exactly and Vought ignored Black Noir every single time.Because checking if a clone didnt went mad is too expensive and bad rep.
>>154006136Cumtown has some really good Hillary bits
>>154006136doesn't work because literally no one on earth would touch her, including her own husband
>>154002530Nah mate, there's no real good guys in this shite. Mmmaybe Hughie, but that's about it.The Boys is really just Ennis's Punisher oc donut steel performing fluffy pony abuser grade torture on superheroes because he hates the medium. Its why every character is two dimensional - hell, even the premise is as retarded as "Hasbio is a multi-billion corpo that releases genetic deformities at an uncontrolled level". It sounds interesting and appealing, but then it devolves into ferishistic torture porn.There's a reason why the TV series was preferred, at least until Season 3. How the Legend was handled in the series was better than how he was handled in the comics.
>>154006136Moore took a more direct but also far softer jab in Supreme.
>>154006408I mean, at the end of the story part of the point is clearly that the boys themselves aren't really different from a superhero/supervillain team. They're living out Butcher's meaningless revenge fantasy.
Herogasm is the absolute worst shit ever and it taints The Boys by association.
>>154006354Young Hillary was very attractive
>>1540074140.05 Clinton Coins have been deposited in your account.
>>154007449How much gas can I buy with that?
>>153998162>because the last two seasons of the tv show were mid as fuck>midBack in my day, they called these things shit.
do people still miss the point that supeheroes are not bad but how vought design them is the bad thing?thats vought entire thing , do not fix the product just spend more on marketing and cheap prices.
>>154007370The Boys is pure taint anyway.
>>154002305>>154002393No, the real villain was Stillwell/Vought and both got off completely free. No the shitty sequel doesn't count. The true evil was corporations and you know what, I stand by that.
>>154006408>performing fluffy pony abuser grade torture on superheroes because he hates the mediumPeople always say this shit but honestly, when you actually read the Boys... there really aren't a lot of superheroes getting beat up (compared to what you'd expecr from its reputation). Usually they get to it at the climax of the current arc but it's not really a guarantee.Likewise, the "Ennis hates superheroes" argument is so overplayed and really not holding any weight when you look at how many cape comics he wrote. Yes, he dislike some heroes (IIRC Cap and Wolverine), but he has no problem or even like a lot more (yadda yadda Hitman, Superman, yadda yadda)
>>153998162Before that they pretended the comic sucked because the first season was good. Scale is just tipping the other way
>>154007645>People always say this shit but honestly, when you actually read the Boys... there really aren't a lot of superheroes getting beat up (compared to what you'd expecr from its reputation). The initial premise isn't even "We're gonna kill all the Superheroes" it's "We're gonna blackmail Superheroes" I know that's Butcher's endgame but it's not the driving force
>>154007627>No the shitty sequel doesn't count
>>154006140>So much of the critique of the show says borderline illiterate shit like "He's not criticizing anything, there's no commentary he's just shitting on superheroes" that it's hard to believe that most people aren't just influenced by youtubers when talking about their opinion of the comicMost people are retards and it's the hardest pill to swallow that the majority of people are filtered by the simplest things.
>>154001742Oh shit look, same freckles too.
>>154007807I always read this part as a self-aware critique of edgy subversive comics. The conversation Stillwell has with Homelander is basically just>What if Superman was EVIL and he RAPED and KILLED...Gee what if you had an original idea that isn't just the mainstream with a negative up front.And no, it's not a self-critique because Homelander barely has screentime in the comics. Ennis really isnt too focused on writing an Evil Superman comic as much as he is focused on the story of the titular Boys, namely Butcher and Wee Hughie'.Probably the biggest downside of the show is how much of it is about Homelander where he was deliberately made not to have any real depth or even much in the way of personal drive.
>>154008318>even much in the way of personal driveWhat'a the catalyst which leads him to spiral towards violence and government takeover? The pictures, which Noir took and arranged.
I think juvenile vulgar humor is funny
tv homelander could unironically be a hardcore fan of comic butcher
>>154007627>>154007807Stilwell was already losing his mind because of his perfectionism
>>153998454>>153998476$0 has been deposited into your account.
>>153998922That's a thing? Isn't this homo appreciation month?
>>154001742Honestly quite incredible.
>>154006140You'd think it'd be apparent that vought was the villain with the unholy wall of text The Legend gives to hughie
>>154008318>the biggest downside of the show is how much of it is about Homelander where he was deliberately made not to have any real depth or even much in the way of personal driveThat kind of shit is catnip for adaptions since they can just fill that empty vessel with their own bullshit even if the vessel was SUPPOSED to be empty
>>154007645Ennis have shown love to superman, spiderman, wonder woman.Hell, even Green lantern he shown him as a nice guy, and is an space cop that go to space war, he should hate him more than Captain america.
>>154009293He likes Batman too.
>>153998661Death of author.
>>153998162Reminder that this guy Joker 2'd Hughie
>>153998162I wouldn't say good, but it is better than the shit streaming show in every sense.
>>153998162Go time travel to 2012 and tell me what to read.
we had threads for the comic back then
>>154004738>>154005548>>154001742>>154006136As someone who has never sat down to read the books, who's only skimmed them at the store and when there's a story time and read the tv tropes page, I ask, does the context for any of this garbage make it better? I hate this dialog.
>>154011433>does the context for any of this garbage make it better?no
>>154011433>reading tvtroonsunironically kill yourself
>>154011382Crazy to think that it started in Wildstorm, when wildstorm was still good, with all those videogame adapatations from eraly xbox360 era.
>>154011382Should i do a The Boys storytime? How many issues a day?
Show was so shit that it makes the comic look good
>>154008318>Probably the biggest downside of the show is how much of it is about HomelanderI was thinking about this, how despite everyone treating Starr as the star, the series got weaker for becoming the Homelander show and making the plot revolve entirely around him instead of the seven as a whole, like I genuinely wonder what would change in the story if the other supes vanished with him as the only one
>>154001966Also when Noir and Homelander double-team a blindfolded Maeve, she later says she couldn't tell them apart at all and thought it was just Homelander.
I have been reading the comic because of how bad the show has gotten, its really not as bad as twitter and certain youtube fags make it out to be
>>153998162>pretendingfuck off troon
>>154012359same, I ended up liking the comics ending more
>>153999355You sound like me when I orgasm.
>>153998162>midGo back to anime twitter
i dont have a strong hate for it, i just think its one of garth ennis' weakest runs, cant bring myself to give it anything above a strong 6
>>154007807>>154009102Stillwell was shown to be an absolute superhuman iceman corporate creature. It took nearly the end of the world and a potential genocide to finally provoke an emotion, and only in privacy. And this was only frustration at the corporate mission, not at any responsibility he actually felt at the mayhem, death and destruction that VA wrought. And the comic reinforced that he genuinely didn't feel anything in that regard because Homelander couldn't perceive any biological reaction out of him whatsoever, even in the face of death. So the idea that Stillwell would have a breakdown is absurd and it was obviously only written because neither Ennis nor the audience could simply accept the actual Bad End that he wrote for The Boys after the fact. Basically a retcon in the face of the Wokeness wave that took over the country.
>>153998976Wheeze.
>>153998162>last two seasons of the tv show were mid as fuckThey were worse than that.
>>154005272>Reddit
>>154006136That's kinda hot
>>154007414Dang she was cute
>>154013591>Stillwell was shown to be an absolute superhuman iceman corporate creatureI'd find his character more believable if he looked older
>>154006136Did we ever got her husband live reaction to this?
>>154006136I never understood this, but admittedly I only ever read like half of the comics before I gave up... Why was she fuckin Butcher?
>>154013751Because Ennis wanted gratuitous sex in his gay ass comic book.
>>153998162basically a rip-off of Training Day, Ennis lost interest in his own story once he got tired of all the rape and poop jokes. the whole build up to a confrontation with the 7 doesnt actually happen and just like Training Day Butcher goes full villain kills everyone except the Simon Pegg character cuz fuck it.
Trash TV show and trash comic. I'm tired of pretending otherwise and tired of retards trying to assign you to a "side".
>>154011433Ennis was basically trying to outdo Preacher which was his most popular work at the time. No it doesnt get better because he becomes lazier as the series goes on.
The show only adapted this shitty comic because it was easy to get the rights to and morph the type story into what the show makers wanted to actually make which was also shit. And they had to pick an existing comic because only an "adaptation" would get the greenlight to get made nowadays, even if the popularity of the original work is dubious.
>>154013751Because his husband would not touch her and Butcher was an attractive, muscular dude who treated her in bed exactly the way she wanted to be treated.
>>153998162It was good though. Especially the ending.
>>154013733They addressed that in the comic. Stillwell's predecessor, by virtue of his old age, didn't have the ruthlessness to get the job done anymore. It was the detachment from the world by a younger corporate climber that represented the true danger.
>>154006408Ennis hates supes but comes crawling right back to write shit like Batman:Reptilian to pay the bills.
>>154014071>old dudes aren't ruthless and detached, it's the young folk that are corruptI think Ennis is off base here
>>153998162The comic is bad. The show is worse.
Reading this thread, we can reach a conclusion.Most people don't get the comicbook.It was a super-heroes satire, not evil vs good.Pay more attention when your read.Seek profesional help.
>>154005860>groomersI'm pretty sure Trump voters would love and identify with this guy.
>>154014168He means the old heads are soft and complacent, Stillwell and his ilk are relatively younger and hungry so they're more ambitious and ruthless.
>>154007414For some reason she reminds me of botw princess xelda
>>153998162Fact. The boys comic and show would’ve been better if Homelander was 100% innocent and victim of Black NOIR driving him crazy. Prove me wrong /co/.
>>153998162The comic has like 3, maybe 4 goods ideas and actually executes one of them ok and its literally just Butchers characterization
Ennis>what if superman was driven mad by photos framing him for eating babiesKripke>what if superman had a lactation fetish
Ennis' books get the shitty adaptations they deserve
>>154006136Limpwristed faggot's revenge fantasy
>>154014918The comic book is about Ennis disclosing 9/11 is an inside job and the unconfirmed report of H.W. Bush eating a baby.
>>154017399>The one jewish supe>His power is mind controlMazeltov!
>>153998162This twist itself was pretty decent and doesn't come out of nowhere like many claim.
>>154013865/thread
>>153998162'tis
yes
>>154019610oh no the poor doggo that billy trained to rape!
>>154019610
>>154019639oh no those poor psycchos that billy trained to rape!
>>153998162I remember being 15 years old and reading this comic, I only cared about the boobs and the gore, but now, like 10 years later, I actually see the ending differently and the revelation is actually quite cool and thematic.
>>154014168You literally see this in the cartels now. The young members are bloodthirsty and ruthless while the OGs try to reign in the new members. And the only thing that separates cartels and corporations is one wears a business suit and the other doesn't.
>>154001742I'm proud of never noticing this.
>>154020083You're confusing it. The old ones are extremely ruthless. They're just smart enough not to act like fictional doomsday cultists broadcasting to the world how they rip people's hearts out of their chests like they're Aztec priests
>>153998162Nobody said it was good dude, we just said it's better than the TV show.
