>woke leftoids think most men would hate being treated like this
>>154019960Genuinely, how is the strawman in the wrong here?If you're not expected to have sex after a date, it should not be expected that he has to pay the bill.
>>154019960i don't even have any dating options
>>154019960Literally me if I had a girlfriend
>>154021367It wasn't expected, she offered to pay.
>>154019960This happens but they are more violent and pettyA woman denied dick is a vengeful woman.
In the beginning, men just picked up women off the street and took them home as their wife. If they already had a husband, they would kill the husband or just kidnap the girl when he wasn't looking.As society progressed, the fathers of women were able to be more protective of their daughters and serve as the deciders of husbands.However the culture of men simply kidnapping women had been ingrained for millions of years so it wasn't not immediately abandoned.Men would kidnap women and then pay a fine to the father afterwards. This quickly switched places and men would pay the father first and get the women after.Eventually this father-daughter dynamic progressed to such a refined level that money alone was not good enough to judge if a man would make a good husband, other factors such as the man's character became important. And so men would meet with the father and introduce himself.And then after some more time it became clear that even if the father approved of the husband, that was no garuntee that the woman would like him, and this proved to be disasterous for marriages at this level of society. So the man interviewed not just with the father, but with the woman also. However, women are different than men, so interviewing women was not very charismatic. Instead, men would woo the woman Romeo and Juliet style.This is where the date finally emerges. And it was just that, singular, a date. The man would meet the woman and impress her, and if she approved, he would take her as his wife (with the fathers approval too of course). It was a short affair, people would get married after their first date. And they would have children immediately after the wedding.
Women empathetically self insert. That means that they deeply relate to a character based on certain superficial characteristics, and then inhabit that character emotionally. That’s why women care more about characters being the same race as them, or being customizable in vidya, or whatever. It’s how they prefer to enjoy stories in many cases. Therefore, good things that happen to female characters are more directly felt by women audiences. They are inhabiting the character directly on an emotional level, so if the character is rich, or pretty, or powerful, that is direct appeal.Men logically relate to characters. They relate to characters based on the degree, to which they agree with them, the degree to which they are similarly motivated to them, and the degree to which they find them interesting or entertaining. However, they don’t inhabit the character most of the time. Since the connection is logical and not empathetic, they tend to view the story from the protagonists perspective, but things that happen to the protagonist are still generally perceived as happening to a different individual. In action series, the main character is usually powerful and skilled and handsome. James Bond, for instance. In a romance series directed towards otaku, however, the appeal would be substantially harmed if audiences saw the main character as superior to them. By having meek, middlingly attractive, main characters that the audience feels superior to, even though they receive female attention, it gives the impression that the otaku could as well, seeing as he is superior. A male otaku that views a more handsome, more rich man get a girl in an anime feels jealousy, not victory.
>>154021484Arranged marriages last longer then love marriages. And not because of sicietak oressire. This is in the first world.
>>154021513Arranged marriages exist in strict societies where divorce is taboo.It is the divorce being taboo part that holds the marriage together, not the lack of love.The wife knows it is taboo and never entertains the thought of leaving, it's not even an option, and so there's no point in resisting a bad husband.Even still, there is a long history of wives poisioning their husbands. Such a thing doesn't happen if she can just get a divorce without any consequence.The optimal marriage is one based on eternal love.
>>154019960You only like until they no longer respect you for it. That is what men should do.
>>1540215421.I'm talking about first world countrues2. Men lose basically everything in divorces3.The fact that you say divorce like its nothing and automatically assume the wife will leave or is in a marriage against her will shows how out of touch with reality you are3.Marriage is over in the first world and men are not trying anywhere. Singles meet ups have no men showing up and girls night at clubs bars etc have ended because no men are paying or showing up. Anon. The men going out conquering and taking women, the woo her with ronance thing, the arranged by friends thing? Its over. Right now, 30+ year old women who were raised on feminist and gates style antinatalisylt ideologies are realizing that the men arent comming and they will die barren and alone.
>>154021424Except if it was an accurate role-reversal, he would be making car TikToks saying that women who don't pay without being asked are "broke losers".
>>154021602bro can't even count to 4, lmao
>>154021367she should wait until the third date of course. this is an insult to his purity
>>154021602the problem with this is guys getting good pulls have no reason to stop playing. if the bottom is falling out of the dating market (and it is) then it's the BOTTOM thats falling out (and it is) honestly i feel for you guys, but its not like i can singlehandedly uplift you either, for better or worse you've gotten yourselves into this one, and only you can dig yourselves out
>>154019960Only an imbecile thinks anyone wants to be called named after a date >>154021367Only a bigger imbecile thinks a quid-pro-quo arrangement is always the appropriate answer to every situation. You get a paycheck for working, you order and pay at a fast food place, and get your burger. Do you invite your friends over to come read your comic books or play with your action figures so you can get their underwear off and fap to them? Where's the equivalency with ordering and paying for a meal or working at a job, friend?
>>154022371>Do you invite your friends over to come read your comic books or play with your action figures so you can get their underwear off and fap to them?yes>Where's the equivalency with ordering and paying for a meal or working at a job, friend?the equivalency between a financial arrangement and a favour for a friend? i like my friends, and i want to spend my resources to enrich my friend's life and improve their wellbeing. my friend likely enriches me in turn, or at least i enjoy their presence in a way that enriches my life. now suppose that we're talking about someone who i do not know well, and have no history with. This is someone im only courting on the chance that we're sexually compatible. If they arent willing to have sex but still feel entitled to consume my time and money, then they are a selfish and decietful person. if all you want is a free meal then so be it, but you could at least be honest or reciprocate the favour as any reasonable person would.
Wait a second, what exactly "You place or mine?" actually means?
>>154022527It's asking where will you and your date go to fuck: your place or hers.
>>154022533Well how tf i was supposed to know that.
>>154022527>"i enjoyed this date and want to spend more time together, and i expect that you feel the same. Specifically i think we want to return to one of our two properties.>Our two properties are notably the only two places appropriate for sex, and there would not be much else to do at these places. furthermore I think that you would have considered the logistics of having sex the same way i have since i think that you are sexually attracted to me as i am to youor >i dont care where we go next as long as it's somewhere private we could fuck in
>>154019960Relatable
Oh look, a thread for incels.How unique.
