Why does modern "serious" western animation tend to have such bland art styles? I'm not talking about stuff that's the equivalent of mediocre seasonal anime, even some of the most praised examples and "hidden gems" tend to play it safe purely visually speaking, pic related>Adult Sci-Fi show inspired by the likes of Serial Experiment Lain, Ergo Proxy and Texhnolyze>Has the blandest pseudo faux-anime/serious cartoon art style imaginable similar to Vox Machina or Invincible instead of looking anything like it's influences
>>154022845Common side effects?
>>154022845>Why does modern "serious" western animation tend to have such bland art styles?They are trying to imitate Japanese cartoons but they fail.
>>154022845Cute pig
>>154022845>modernMost of adult cartoons have had pretty shit art styles since the 00s. Adult swim was an exception. >>154024438Adult anime can have pretty interesting art styles, look at Ping Pong or Kaiji for example. Even those with more grounded art styles like Baccano tend to compensate in writing and direction.
>>154022845Working conditions suck
>>154022845>realistic proportions, doesn't have a super high animation budgeti think it just ends up looking that naturally
>>154024858>realistic proportionswhen does something look western and when does something look like "faux anime" if the art director still wants more realistic proportions in animation?
>>154024882>>154022845The other route for a small budget would have been all those rick and morty rigged lookalike toons. This is preferable.
>>154022845All the wacky art styles were age gated to kids, only anime covered adult subjects seriously, it could even do mundane stuff that would be virtually impossible for western shows to do like a show about animation, sports and slice of life. So obviously everyone was just trained to assume if you are doing an adult show that isn't a 100% comedy you would look to anime
>>154022845Liberals and wokies genuinely think that style looks good. Simple as
>>154022845It's like a ''it ain't faux-anime'' faux-anime art style. They don't want to make it look too ''anime''. Zoomers don't even think it looks like anime anymore even though it does.
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>>154025068That's cause this is already as far from anime as they have seen serious series get during their lifetime.They don't know it can diverge further.
>>154025108>>154025068It's korean studios animation. They generally look this way.
Because Korean work house labor sold to the lowest bidder. The only way to change this is to overthrow the American government
>>154025139Originally Japs trained Korean animators to outsource part of anime works to Korea As they became more established, they started getting more works from the US instead especially when US productions wanted to make faux-animeThat's why neither of them has their own distinct style
>>154022845>anons complain about art styles they don't like>anons complain about normal art styles>once again /co/ turns on something they used to like
>>154025379The keyword here is "used to". There hasn't been a good show since Over The Garden Wall thirteen years ago in 2014.
At the very least, I think /co/ should talk more about the ''cartoons with watered-down anime art styles helped by korea'' problem in generalBut I don't think they will
>>154022845Because anything bombastic or vibrant is exclusive for comedy or kids stuff in the minds of the people who make it.
>>154022845For some reason most of the cool and edgy artstyles died out in the 2010s and everyone wants to make faux animes even more now. I think some fag may Argue Aeon Flux could be considered ""anime"" considering it's creator worked on something considered an anime but i still count it as western
>>154022845>Why does modern "serious" western animation tend to have such bland art styles? I'm not talking about stuff that's the equivalent of mediocre seasonal anime, even some of the most praised examples and "hidden gems" tend to play it safe purely visually speaking, pic relatedA mixture of wanting to do more anatomically correct and "realistic" designs, but the western animations obsession with simplicity for the sake of animating easier Every animation resource i see from western places keep repeating the same thing about simplifying designs which works for more cartoony stuff, but for a something that wants to be more serious or adult, it looks boring as fuckThe hair are always some solid block shape with little to no starting point or highlight to indicate form, shading is super simple with no definition or volume and clothes can't have defined wrinkles or flow And i get what they're trying to say by "simplyfing" it's more refining certain elements that are core to the design and cutting out unneeded ones, but it's clear that it backfires when it's applied to something like adult animation Here is a recent anime that i think does what i said correctly called hell's paradiseIt's style is very flat with minimal shading, but the line work makes up for it by being more detailed but the elements i sated before is what makes it workOld comics are are good example of this >>154024882 with very detailed linework but minimal shading and colorsDoesn't have to look anime, but it uses the same design elements in order to not look generic and flat
I have a mighty need for Maddie/Ellen oyakodon.That is all.
>>154022845Because they havent been taught how to create a styleThey think whatever they draw is a styleAnd thats not trueA style has consitency and separates itself from others so it can be recognizedA lot of anime is generic as hell and interchangeableSome you can tell who made it because it looks like their other worksSame with western cartoonsAs much as it sucks Seth Mcfarlane and the Brickleberry guys have a style. Its recognizable you wont mistake other shows for theirsInvincible is generic anime and has no style
>>154025745>make faux animes even more nowIt's more about what the korean studios want. > Aeon Flux could be considered ""anime""Aeon Flux was not an anime but Peter Chung is a weeb.
>>154026057>Seth McfarlaneNah his style is pretty garbage as well even if stands out.
>>154022845Most adult western cartoons are comedies unlike anime so they use the most basic style since they are not used to this shit. >>154026057>Invincible is generic animeInvincible tries to look like low budget capeshit stories, it has literally nothing anime about it. It's still a pretty mediocre show but that's a false statement.
>>154026225It is absolutely animeIts not trying to copy Bruce TimmOr any of the 90s marvel animations like X-men or Spider-manDefinitely not classic superhero cartoonsIts just generic anime
>>154026261>It is absolutely animePost 1 anime that looks like it, from the lips to the character faces, to the male and female body designs. Anissa or thragg wouldn't look at all like that if they were in any anime. It's a low effort low budget rendition of the comic.
>>154026313Dragon ball super dumbassTweaningSmearsFlat colorsLack of detail for the majority of the episodesFraming and angles in fightsInvincible is just shittier Dragon Ball Super nigga and that sucked ass when it came out being ugly as fuck
>>154026057I would say that when it comes to adult animation America has an even worse problem regarding styles(just think about the adult animated sitcoms) while anime has a way richer history of diverse and interesting adult anime because they evolved in different ways instead of parallel lines. There was a youtube video that talked a lot about why adult animation had such a different trajectory in the 2 continents.
>>154022845Is this what it takes to make a Pantheon thread in 2026? Goddamn.
stop replying to the retard
>>154026367Are you illiterate or retarded? I was talking about character designs. There are thousands of other cartoons that have all of those but techniques or low budgets doesn't make them have similar styles. I haven't seen dbs but just looking at an image shows me that it looks nothing like invincible in style, wtf are you even talking about? Hell you were saying that it's not trying to copy "classic superhero cartoons" but it uses the same png slide and flat colors as those.
