what you think,anon? dont be a drone!

>>154025419
>good until archer vice
>spun its wheels for multiple coma seasons
>everyone becomes shittier and more annoying versions of themselves
>show finally ends when it should've done so a long time ago

>>154025419
I liked it

>>154025419
Didn't reed sabotage this because FX canned his lesbian action comedy series?

Pretty good for the first 4-5 series
Solid but average afterward, never got bad but was never anything more than watchable

It was amazing till season 5 then it clearly started going down hill. The coma seasons were really bad and the fact the went on for 3 fucking seasons was just insane. After the coma seasons it was ehhh very hit and miss. Crazy it went on for another 4 seasons. It ended on a high note tho.

All'n'all 7.5/10 not bad for a show that lasted 14 god damn seasons ending with a 3 part special. It must have been cheap as fuck to make for FX to fund it for so long

>>154025419
Insanely overrated.

>>154025419
well it's no frisky dingo.

Every season of Archer is good until 8, including 8 itself. The common viewer is just an autistic retard with a "confort show" relationship with literally every fucking sitcom they come across, and force that botion even on a cartoon whose thing is being zany and deconstructive of format like Archer. Archer is similar to Venture Bros. in which 1. Both are supposed to both indulge and parody the formats of the genres that inspire them and 2. This makes them inherently kind of unpredictable and zany.

It's not illegal to be a manchild who uses these shows as a small child uses a teddybear for solace and wish for repetitive, stagnant states because you brain interpretes sitcoms as real situations and people subconsciously, but it does make you too retarded to perceive things like a normal person.

Seasons 1-4 are great but they give us a combined 49 episodes of the same formula, Vice should be a welcome breath of fresh air.

Vice itself has some of the best episodes of Archer.

6 is decent, 7 is another change of format but I find it pretty good.

Dreamland (season 8) was actually really good and shouldn't be judged alongside the other coma seasons. Everything in it is evolved, the direction, the plot being somewhat serious and continuous over a season, everyone fits their character perfectly. I genuinely find this one of the best seasons of Archer.

9 and 10 are unwatchable shit.

11 has watchable episodes here and there, after thar it's just a catastrophe.

>>154025419
>never find out who the guy who game him the stuffed gator toy was
I am still disgruntled

>>154025419
Flanderized too early, but it was still funny if you dont mind that. But even then it was never the funniest thing around. Coma seasons onwards were just meh.

>>154025999
damn, someone is still making an effort to go on a detailed post in this burmese candlemaking forum.

Pretty much agree on most of your point.
I would say S1 was good, just suffers a bit as most comedy shows do on trying to find their feet.
S2 and S3 were excellent.
S4 starts to show the formula is going stale, mostly good but with a few stinkers.
Vice i would say was a good idea. At this point they needed to shake the formula even if it overall failed. It had a good ending, but getting there was a drag.
S6 was an attempt to go back to spy shit that really shows how much that well has gone dry. ending with a "we are definitely not going to do this ever again" was the right call
S7 was overall a decent, better attempt at a continous story than vice, but it suffers a bit with the question of why are all these characters still together.
Dreamland was really fucking good and the closest the show got to recapture the S2-3 peak. At this point it's clear that the show is just an excuse to keep the cast of actors on a unified thing, i don't mind that the coma thing means all this is non-canon.
S9 shows the other side of the coma thing, having to commit to set up new roles, new setting and closing it all up in 8 episodes can also make things stale in a different way.
Haven't seen anything beyond that although i do intend to go back and finish at least up to the point Adam Reed leaves.

>>154025419
First 4 seasons are great. Then it just falls apart and then it takes 5 more seasons to finally fucking die already. Long LONG after they totally lost the original concept.

It was a fucking scifi fantasy and 1930s noir show for a while. What the ever fuck.

Should have ended when he woke up

>>154025543
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>>154026863
It annoyed me that by the time season 5 rolled around, overwhelming majority of the side cast were gone.

KGB director guy was dead, the assassin couple were dead, Frodo is dead, almost all the other spies they interacted with were just gone, nearly everyone disappeared from the show until it was down to the main 7 people on a random misadventure every episode. With 1 Barry's Back episode each season for some reason.

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I remember enjoying the coma season in space; it felt like they knew it was the last one and went all out with the absurdity. Although in retrospect, it was a waster of Lucille Bluth's final years.
I forced myself all the way to the final episode, and... well, I guess the writer(s) really let out their yiddish frustrations (Jesus Christ statues being decapitated twice), and let Archer continue to be the careless jerk (i.e. good goy, /co/omer) he always was (disappears and leaves Lana alone for vapid sex, not caring for his daughter, not caring to know who his father was, not caring about the rest of his crew).
Awful, despicable writer, which I think is the same one for the early seasons. The creator even. I don't care enough to look for the information.

>>154025684
The adventure island season was pretty good, but I’m with you on the rest of the coma seasons

>>154026916
> Frodo is dead
*Bilbo

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Was Zara the series Poochie?

>>154029466
Poochie at least had a distinct personality. Zara was basically Lana 2, the difference being Archer would never be able to shag her.
I don't think the finale even addresses her for more than a few seconds.

>>154025419
made me hate the irish

>>154029577
>Zara was basically Lana 2
I feel like that was supposed to be overt
Lana Kane
Zara Khan
I'm not really sure what they were going for there, especially when her personality was essentially a female Archer.
At least they made her fallible by giving her a temper, issues with rich people, and a gambling problem.
When I first saw teaser art for her, I was wondering if they were going to do a timeskip and age up AJ or something. It kind of seems like they were trying to set her up to join the spy agency at some point with all of the ridiculous skills she somehow acquired at various summer camps. I'm glad they didn't go that route, but I wonder if maybe Zara was supposed to be a surrogate for that type of character?

>>154029841
What the hell does that mean, you PUKE!

Everyone got flanderized.

For some reason they added poochie in the final season

>whenever Zara's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Zara?"

I thought of this line in my head watching the final season then it actually happened in it. Multiple times.

>>154030700
>whenever Zara's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Zara?"
I thought the EXACT same thing.
I'm still conflicted about how it ended with the agency broken up, Archer striking out on his own and taking Pam with him. The gang is broken up, nobody from the main cast dies, Archer can never see his kid again, he and Lana never really have a moment.
In some ways, I guess the series ended in a way that left the door open for more and didn't get too heavy which would have been a touch out of character for the series. That said, something about it felt unfulfilling. I only recently finished the series so I need to sit with it for a bit longer. I'm not sure if it works or if it was a cop out.
I think Archer bringing Pam along works better than had the series ended with him completely alone, but it also felt like fan service in that Pam was a fan favorite and people wanted to see them paired up as a dynamic duo like they were in Adventure Island.

>>154025419
Barry was a good character when he first appeared as Archer's rival at the other agency, but he definitely overstayed his welcome. The "other Barry" shit got annoying really fast, and for some reason they kept bringing him back. I'm not really sure why. Was the VA banging a producer or something?
He was kind of a useless part of the finale too. You could have written the character completely out and nothing would have changed.

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>>154025419
Fabian was an infuriatingly annoying character. i don't know why they decided to make him sound like Elmer Fudd, but it got old really fast.

>>154025634
never heard of it, but he hasn't done anything since leaving Archer. Usually there would be rumblings of working on something or having an idea in "pre-production" (which could last indefinitely), but seems like maybe he got his bag and decided to fuck off.

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>>154031729
He has 2 projects in development

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Has anyone seen Adam Reed's Calamity and Jane?

I didn't care for Pam

>>154025684
>The coma seasons were really bad and the fact the went on for 3 fucking seasons was just insane

I remember expecting it to be over after the first one and just checking out when I saw the next one was another coma season. I thought no way is this show going to survive such a stupid fucking production decision.

>>154033970
>such a stupid fucking production decision
I always assumed it was just because Adam Reed got bored with the setting/characters/premise so both Vice and the coma seasons were excuses for him to essentially work on another show while still having the benefits of a built-in audience and avoiding having to go through the whole pitching process again.

>>154032024
was this also titled Cassius & Clay at one point, or was that something else?

>>154025419
I miss the era when Archer and Venture Bros first came out. So much cool shit. I wonder if we'll ever get a return to actual fun action cartoons again

>>154025419
What was the point of the new girl in the last season?

>>154035841
Can't tell if maybe she was planned before they got cancelled, or maybe they decided to include her because with Lana out of the field, they needed a competent female agent for representation.
Or maybe she was supposed to be some sort of a foil. She was "as good" as Archer which somehow forced Archer to grow personally? He seemed to come to terms with a lot of shit in the last season suddenly (and conveniently). I dunno. The fact that the name Zara Khan is so close to Lana Kane seems pertinent for some reason. In either case, the character was annoying as shit and seemed completely unnecessary. I think you could have gotten rid of her entirely, written the plots so other characters did the things she did, and nothing would have changed. Or maybe they were hoping she would be popular enough that they could launch a spinoff series?

I also thought it was weird how Archer would readily concede the agency director position to Lana because "she deserved it and he didn't want to stop womanizing and boozing" or whatever bullshit excuse he had. Just seemed completely out of character. Even if he didn't want the position, I feel like his ego wouldn't have allowed him to voluntarily give it up. It felt like bad character writing.

>>154025419
He should've had sex with Mallory

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>>154036202
>they needed a competent female agent for representation.
Pam is right there

>>154036957
Agreed, but she seems to oscillate between being a complete badass and inept depending on the convenient needs of the story at at any given time. Even at her best, Pam was formidable, but in-universe she wasn't able to go toe to toe with Archer like Lana was (and poochie seemed to be able to).

>>154036826
He almost had sex with his therapist who was supposed to look like a young Mallory

>>154037041
Yeah, when she wears Mallory's close it's such a huge turn on. So glad they lean on his oedipus complex

>>154037132
They weren't shy about that. I think they addressed it in the very first episode in a cutaway gag where archer tries to keep fucking Lana while talking on the phone with his mom which prompts their breakup.

>>154037152
And him getting an erection thinking of her. Well, thinking of her dead, but come on, Archer's gotta be masturbating to Malory during his teenage years especially with how distant she is.

I had no idea this show was still going

>>154037421
it isn't. It ended in December 2023.