It's over for the Masters Of The Universe movie...it has a $200 million budget. it's ludicrously expensive, and probably won't back back more than 2.5X its budget to break even
>>154027965No Orko, no watch.Them’s the rules.
>>154027965>mattel thought he-man could bring in barbie numberslol
>>154027965WHY THE FUCK DO THEY KEEP CASTING JARED BOX OFFICE POISON LETO
It was over for the Masters of the Universe movie the moment they oushed it into productionI'm part of the generation this is supposed to cater to and even I can tell this thing is at minimum 10 years too late
>>154028350Is it a thing he did or just somehow every movie with him is a bust?
>>154027965This is a 500 million advertisement for He-man toys and other shit, them prolonging how they sell more He-Man shit makes it worth whatever loss they have to eat up after VOD/streaming is added in
>>154028387tron ares recently flopped and people know jared leto for a creepy cult thing
>>154028387He can't act, and he's a weirdo
>>154028387also he's been accused of sexual misconduct by 9 women so that will also lower his reputationhttps://www.imdb.com/news/ni65325246/>And some of the accusers say that they were still minors when Leto first made contact with them.
>>154028350I was interested in the movie until I knew Jared Leto was in thereI was interested in Tron ares too, until Jared Leto
>>154028387he came to prominence via Requiem For A Dream, the arse to arse moviewhenever he's a lead or antagonist, the movie is like Requiem For A Dream without that scenewhenever he's background the movies are generally middling, and sometimes win awards like The Thin Red Line
Its weird how Hollywood is stuck in that time 15 years ago where Transformers movies made 1 billion, that time has passed and these cartoon adaptations dont have that nostalgia power anymore, yet Hollywood seems oblivious to that fact.
>>154028387Naw it's just an incredibly likely thing to happen to an actor because most movies flop. Margot Robbie had like five in a row before Barbie which is hardly impressive since that's an ip that was waiting to make bank. Only weird lefties hate him with everyone else being neutral
>>154028762I think it's less nostalgia or interest going away and just people being hyper aware of Hollywood's bullshit now. Like there's tons of nerds who would like a he-man movie in current year in an alternate timeline where wokeness didn't infect nerd properties so deeply
>>154028762Transformers is a different beast altogether because of how much it changed to appeal to the then-current zeitgeist.>high-paced action scenes with Sam Peckinpah-style editing courtesy of Michael Bay>prominent military characters who are portrayed as more competent than the main human protagonist>the Transformers themselves have a very grimy aesthetic that makes them more “metal aliens” than “robots who happen to be aliens” like previous incarnations>Transformers in general has far more generational appeal than He-Man, which is firmly stuck in the early 80sI couldn’t tell you how to make He-Man more appealing to anyone besides nostalgic adults or cartoon nerds because its design ethos of a “fantasy kitchen sink” is so inherently niche.
>>154027965>it has a $200 million budget. it's ludicrously expensiveThen why the fuck does everything they've shown so far look cheap as shit? Like, even more so than usual?
>>154028912who ever knows. maybe they fucked up somewhere during production and that costed a lot of money. the mandorian and grogu movie is only $165 million in comparison
>>154028762I think that part of why Backrooms and Obsession have been a hot topic for discussion is that they are seen as a "fuck you" to Hollywood execs who have kept our culture stuck in 80's nostalgia for almost 20 years now.
>>154027965COLORADO, TE DOY MEDIA HORA PARA SOLTARME
>>154029811Y YO TE DOY POR EL ORTO
>>154029962¡¡¡¿QUE CARAJO ESO ESO?!!!
>>154028912Money laundering
People need to learn how to enjoy things again instead of being obsessed with something makes money or not.
>>154027965He-Man has not been popular outside of his first cartoon and even then, his popularity was giant but very short lived and his profitability fell off a cliff in a matter of years. The original live-action movie didn't do well, the CN reboot in the 2000's didn't do well, the two Netflix cartoons didn't do well. I don't know why Mattel thinks He-Man is some kind of golden goose on par with Barbie or Ponies.
>>154030090maybe they think the movie could boost him to golden goose status if lots of people come see it and like itIron Man got boosted to golden goose status via the movies
>>154030117I hope at the very least it gets some people to check out the 2000s and cg shows. Underrated toons
>>154028068Orko sucks dude. I might actually watch if he's not in it
>>154029783backrooms is also hollywood slop tho
>>154027965>$200 million>>154028430>500 millionilliterate or retarded?
>>154028912they have the budgetbut they are too afraid to use it
>>154030167It's really not that different from horror movies of the last decade either
>>154028350His blowjobs are legendary
>>154027965What the odds the amazing Digital circus movie opening ended up doing better than he-man? It already losing to backrooms.
>>154030225>It already losing to backrooms."It already" is not even out yet
>>154030170it's 2.5X the budget to break even because they also have to earn back the marketing costs
>>154030286>it's 2.5X the budget to break evenno, this is a made up number parroted by retards pretending to be experts
>>154030317Nta but it's right. That's why there's even a discussion on whether Superman was profitable despite clearing 600 million
>>154030349>Nta but it's right.no it isn't
>>154030365it's the best estimate we've got unless the studio reveals how much they've spent exactly
>>154030365Yes it's common sense. The claim that's bullshit is that every movies marketing budget is close to the actual movies budget. It's a factor but it doesn't literally double the budget
>>154029783>they are seen as a "fuck you" to Hollywood execs who have kept our culture stuck in 80's nostalgia for almost 20 years now.By whom, exactly? They're popular right now because horror slop is always popukar with teenagers.
>>154030388>it's the best estimate we've gotif this is your best estimate maybe accept that estimating is futile instead of circlejerking over made-up numbers
>checking thursday night seats>maybe a few blocks of seats>check TADC>almost all seats takenIt's done.
>>154030167>>154030200Idk I haven't watched it, but the point is that it's a Gen Z IP made by someone from that very age group. The entire discourse has been over how this could signal a shift in demographic, and whether or not people are truly over Gen X IP's (specially since Mando fell under those films and most of it's audience consisted of people over 40).
>>154027965Remember when tentpole movies having a budget of 100 Million was unheard of?
>>154030439It's not circle jerking and the numbers aren't made up. If you have a lemonade stand and it costs you x amount to make and sale your drink you need to make a significantly higher amount than x in sales to justify your original investment. Now imagine you paid for commercials for your lemonade stand. Now you need to also make that money back. Just apply that same logic to movies and you'll see why people say films with $200 million budgets aren't profitable after making even twice that budget in box office
>>154030286and the theatres takes a cut of the sales too
>>154030456I get that I just don't think it's actually a big shift. Star wars' reputation was beaten to a bloody pulp by Disney so those movies beating Mandalorian isn't too impressive especially since it's third season bombed too. Big ip movies could easily be big again if they cut out all the gay woke shit
The Michael Jackson movie had a 200 million budget and Lionsgate execs wanted the movie to earn $700 before they'd start work on the sequelprobably 500 million to break even, and maybe another 200 million to shoot part 2
>>154028350>>154028387>>154028567It's supposedly an open secret in Hollywood that he uses a blackmailing ring of sorts based on the trafficking ring to essentially keep himself relevant
>>154028387He has a bunch of sex allegations towards him and they all seem true, which doesn't help that he's a mid tier actor who doesn't have any clout like other mid teir actors like Johnny Depp or Chris Prat. Even still 200 million for a startup franchise is a fuck ton of money. Even if people like Jared it's still stacked against the film.
>>154030557Oh Disney's management of SW definetly sinked the brand, but it's not like those ttwo issues can't correlate, specially since SW has been stuck on "member X thing from that other movie?" mode for the past 10 years. MOTU bombing could also be a part of it, as well as other boomer/Gen X media that has been underperforming lately (Transformers for example).
>Alita battle angel>budget 200 million>earns 405 million>still no Alita sequelfeels bad
>>154030167Yeah they took an organic found footage movie and turned it into any other slick and safe big budget pg-13 horror movie. Hollywood is hopeless
>>154030513if can make a cup of lemonade for 50 cents and some dickhead came along and told me i needed to make 200 dollars selling lemonade because that's how much he thinks it cost to build the stand, I'd call him an idiot and tell him to fuck off.
>>154030626>not like those ttwo issues can't correlateTrue this stuff has a lot of baggage making different people hesitant about new movies for different reasons>boomer/Gen X media that has been underperforming lately (Transformers for example)This one is hard to call because that movie is animated so already you have a smaller audience compared to live action. In addition to that it had really really shitty marketing. Definitely many factors at play with all of this so only the next 2 or so years of movies will give us a better idea on the direction the winds blowing
>>154030792>Point>Head
>>154030824the point being "please believe me for no reason"
>>154030792Just out of curiosity, do you think theaters show the movies for free?
>>154030797RotB also did poorly the year before, and that same summer the last Indiana Jones also bombed. It's gonna be interesting seeing what franchises are proven to have run their course over the next few years.
>>154030860i never said anything to that effect
>>154028871>Like there's tons of nerds who would like a he-man movie in current year in an alternate timeline where wokeness didn't infect nerd properties so deeplyI don't think so. I really think you faggots overestimate how much this "muh childhood" shit actually plays. Transformers did well because it was at the time cutting-edge visuals. There's not enough literal autists obsessed with 40 year old cartoons that was going to make THIS faggotry fly.
>>154030843Huh? It's not a conspiracy, anon. Products that cost money need to make money. Movies have always operated like this. Box office is especially crucial since streaming killed dvd rentals and sales
>>154030911I'll take that as a no.How big of a cut do you think they take, roughly?
>>154030488not really no it's been like 40 years
>>154030943>Products that cost money need to make money.you don't know how much money they need to make.>>154030946>How big of a cut do you think they take, roughly?I don't know and I don't pretend to know.
>>154030937>I really think you faggots overestimate how much this "muh childhood" shit actually playsIt's more than that though. Kids in 07 liked the Bay transformers movies without knowing the cartoon and plenty of adult nerds without nostalgia saw it because it's a giant robot movie. People are just too used to rugpulls where hollywood takes potentially good adaptations and ruins them internally, so big budget ip shit is struggling. What your movie is based on means jack shit if you make it cool or good
>>154030985>You don't know how much money they need to makeYes I do. They need to make enough to cover the $200 million budget, the undisclosed dollar amount they used on marketing, and the theater's cuts. That's gonna be roughly double or 2.5x the budget needed
>>154031046>the undisclosed dollar amount they used on marketingyou're admitting you don't know>That's gonna be roughly double or 2.5x the budget neededthis number was made up by outsiders pretending to be experts
>>154030905>RotB also did poorly the year beforeI didn't realize. Bay coming back makes sense to me now >the last Indiana Jones also bombedI know the claim that something bombed because it's woke is dubious, but this is a case where I'm certain that's what happened
>>154031070It's not made up it's common sense. Your product cost a certain amount to make. Now you need to make it back. Simple as.
>>154030985>I don't know and I don't pretend to know.Okay, well while it depends on the movie, and will change over it's life time, on average a theater will take between 40-50% of the boxoffice.Smaller, riskier movies tend to get less of a cut, ranging between 50-70% for the theater over the movies life time, while a big safe blockbusters (these are rare these days) it's usually between 30-50%.Now lets be generous and say they consider this a safe movie, with an average theater cut of about 40%. If the studio gets 60% of the ticket sales, how much would it need to make at the box office, just to make back the budget for the movie?
>>154028387He is certainly not a box office draw like Christian Bale or Leonardo DiCaprio, but he is not active box office poison. He or his agent just tend to put him in movies that have no mass appeal (American Psycho, Bladerunner, FightClub),...
>>154031138>Your product cost a certain amount to make. Now you need to make it back.you don't know how much it cost. you don't know how much you need to make back.>>154031145>Now lets be generous and say they consider this a safe movie, with an average theater cut of about 40%.you're making shit up again
>>154031245True, but that would be the generous estimate, so it would only have to make even more if we used any other estimate.So at the absolute lest, how much would the movie need to make at the box office, to make back the budget for the making of the movie?
>>154031288you have to "estimate" because you don't know the real numbers
>>154030023But if an IP doesn't make money, there won't be anymore of it. :^(
>>154031245It cost $200 million plus a marketing budget that's bigger than five digits. They need to make double that or 2.5 x that. Look at the controversy around people claiming Superman bombed and we never really outright saying it didn't, just confirming that it was profitable. That movie made over $600 million at the box office. Why would a movie studio dance around bragging about the fact that their movie made that much?
>>154031110Crystal Skull already tanked Indy's reputation and nobody was begging for another one
>>154031332Genuinely autistic
>>154027965>200 MILLION GOYBUCKSwhat were they thinking?
Capeshit has made me forget that a 200 million budget is a lot for a movie
>>154031343you don't know the marketing budget and the 2.5 rule is made up. stop pretending to be an expert.
>>154031359A nonwoke movie could've overcame that
>>154028841>Only weird leftists hate himIs there anything those retards don't hate?
>>154031376It's not made up it's an estimate and a conservative one at that. I want he-man to succeed too, you little retard but the fact is with a $200 million budget they need double-2.5 times that to be successful. Unless the toys sell like hot cakes but that's dependent on at least a decent b.o.
>>154031360you keep trying to change the subject but it's not working.i am telling you that you don't know anything, you just make up numbers and roll with them as if they are true. every time you assume, or suppose, or estimate, you are proving me right. and you can't not do those things because without blind guesswork you have nothing.>>154031441the 2.5 rule is made up. it's not real.
>>154031396black crime and sex change operations seem to be well liked among them
>>154031332You're right. I don't know what number between 333 million (The lowest estimate) and 666 million (The highest estimate, though this is pretty unrealistic, since the is not exactly a small indie movie, so the theaters taking 70% is unrealistic) it actually needs. But I an tell you it's between those, simply because the theater doesn't show movies for free.
>>154031461I haven't changed any subjects I'm just calling you retarded for not understanding how estimates work
>>154031484>>154031495your estimates have no basis
>>154031461So are you gonna explain why a major studio like wb had to dance around whether Superman's box office was a success or not? If you are so adamant that the 2.5 x rule isn't real than you must think Superman was a roaring success
is Mattel still trying to make a cinematic universeare we getting Barbie vs He-Man in a few years if this is successful
>>154028430Kids don’t care about He-man no matter how much they try. Late Gen Xer who were the core audience already too old for young kids now. So there’s vile no chance this is gonna be a generational movie where a dad takes his young kids to share something he loved as a kid, it’s too late for that now.
>>154031538i didn't say that
>>154031516They do though. Marketing cost money. Lots of money for the level they do it at. Anon no one wants he-man to bomb. We're just telling the truth that it must make a significant amount to success
>>154031516It's based on the typical theater cuts for every single other movie.Unless you something think this movie will have a wildly different rate than any other movie of it's kind, it's pretty fucking easy to estimate how much it needs to make purely on that.You would have a point if we didn't know the budget of the movie, or didn't have the statistics of what the theater cut tends to be, but we have both.
>>154031567>Marketing cost money.you don't know how much money
>>154031561I know you didn't. I'm asking you why that movies box office success was disputed despite it making over 3 x times it's budget if that's the only significant cost they have to factor in. Just tell me why you think they didn't brag about making 3 times the movies budget back
>>154031587>but we have bothdo you though?>>154031641you're trying to change the topic again
the 2.5 thing is a common thing among box office discussion areas. it might not be as applicable in the 2020s because now the studio also earns a lot of money from PVOD, but it's not like it came out of nowhere just for this thread
>>154031594Enough that they'll need to make more than just double the budget.
>>154031671you don't know that
>>154031664It's not a topic change though. It's a directly restored issue that'll give you an idea of how this works. Now tell me why wb didn't brag about making 3 times Superman's budget back?
>>154031670You don't have to respond to that retard you know
>>154031683Yes I do actually because double the budget is already the baseline they want without marketing. Logic dictates that including marketing it means they need more than double at least
At least we got yassified Monster High Skeletor out of it
>>154031687>It's not a topic change though.it is. how much money superman made makes no difference in this discussion.>>154031713>double the budget is already the baseline they want without marketingyou don't know that
>>154031664>do you though?Yes. The budget is in the OP, and the typical theater cut has been known for decades.
>>154031768>and the typical theater cut has been known for decadeshas it though?
>>154031745>we gotmore like the scalpers got her
>>154031814Yes.
>>154031869well from what I can tell 50% is the maximum cut a theater can get from ticket sales, certainly not the average. and theater cuts are lower in the first week, where you can expect something closer to 20%. typically. so "double the budget" is simply wrong.
damn that shut him up real quick
>>154031755y>how much money superman made makes no difference in this discussionYes it does because it's a recent example of a movie with a successful b.o. total that wasn't instantly hailed as a success once it got to that number. If you really doubt the marketing makes that much of a difference in how much a movie needs to make in order to be successful then you should be very confused as to why Superman's success was ever doubted
>>154031899>well from what I can tell 50% is the maximum cut a theater can get from ticket salesDepends on the type of movie. As I said blockbusters tend to be able to get get better deals, while small independent movies tend to get worse and often get only 30% of their box-office.Double the budget is for movies in general. Or at least it used to be, sine the advertisement budget tended to be low enough for big movies that they would be able to get by with just double the budget, but these days advertisement budgets tend to get inflated to such a degree that bigger movies will often get the extra 0.5 attached.Now wether this one has that massive of an advertising budget for that to be the case, if the theaters think it's strong enough to get a good deal or not, these are all unknowns, which is why I didn't ask to also consider the advertisement budget, and only take into account a good deal of roughly 40% average over its lifetime.How much would the movie need to make to break even at 60% of the box office?
>>154032041>If you really doubt the marketing makes that much of a difference in how much a movie needs to make in order to be successfulI never said that. I said YOU don't know how much of a difference it makes, because you don't know the marketing budget.
>>154032049>sine the advertisement budget tended to be low enough for big movies that they would be able to get by with just double the budgetso "double the budget" is for marketing, not theater cuts>these are all unknownsthat's what I've been telling you. you just agreed with me.>and only take into account a good deal of roughly 40% average over its lifetimemaking things up again
i can't believe they put fuckign jared leto in was there no other person?
>>154032143>so "double the budget" is for marketing, not theater cutsDouble the budget used to be for both.When a movie had made double it's budget it would have payed off both the theater cut and the marketing budget on top of the actual cost to make the movie.>making things up againOkay at this point I'll just have to accept that you don't understand what estimates mean.
What is the anti-Jared Leto thing about anyway? I'm assuming it's some sort of wokie cancel creature meme.
>>154032226your estimates have no basisyou're caught in a loop of admitting you know jack shit outside of the production budget, then ignoring that to toss out another "estimate" which you treat as fact. and you're probably going to keep doing it, because you want to feel like an expert but blind guesswork is all you have.
Scary Movie winning againts this woke shit going to be fun
>>154028350I can't imagine it's all him though for those movies. They all seemed to have other problems. I have trouble believing the sex cult thing or whatever could really do this much damage to a movie
>>154032287>your estimates have no basisIt's based on reported theater cuts for blockbuster movies.I'm not exactly sure what else you'd want it based on, since that's literally the only factor we need.But yeah, we get it, everyone else, including movie critics, directors, actors and so forth who have talked about this in length are all wrong, and you're right.
Just walked in, what the fuck is going on in this thread? People can't make non-serious estimates to try and determine if the He-man movie can profit or not in a casual 4chan thread? You just want us all to shut up and not discuss anything about the implications that having such a massive budget has on a possible breakeven? can't do shit for fun here ffs
>>154032319I hope you find a real hobby soon.
>>154032334Amazing argument.
what do you think is the likelihood any good word of mouth would boost people coming in to see it?
>>154027965You're saying people don't want to watch a movie about half-naked men?
>>154032423hmmm releasing in pride month...
>>154032386If it's actually good, I could see it do fine.Latest Jurassic World made like 750 million, and that movie was ass.The real wildcard is China. I have no fucking clue how much they might care about this franchise. They do tend to like kitschy science fantasy, so who knows, maybe this might be right up their alley.
>>154032471I'm worried it might do another Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves where the movie is well liked, but not enough people come to see itBudget $150 million[10][11]Box office $208.2 million[6][12]
>>154032536Critical responseOn the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 91% of 318 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 7.4/10. The website's consensus reads: "An infectiously good-spirited comedy with a solid emotional core, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves offers fun fantasy and adventure even if you don't know your HP from your OP."[121] Metacritic, which uses a weighted average, assigned the film a score of 72 out of 100, based on 57 critics, indicating "generally favorable" reviews.[122] Audiences surveyed by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "A−" on an A+ to F scale, while those polled by PostTrak gave it a 90% positive score, with 77% saying they would definitely recommend it.[114] >91% positive on Rotten Tomatoes>Still got that shit box officeoof
>>154030676And thank God there never will be one. I say this as a fan of the manga since 1990.
>>154027965I feel bad for MOTUfags, I hope this won’t affect Origins too badly. As a Transformersfag myself it was disappointing when TFOne bombed.
>>154032640even though the movie doesn't follow the manga storyline that closely, i'd still prefer the movie storyline to be complete than half finished
>>154032536>>154032591D&D: HAT had a terrible marketing campaign that didn't know how to sell it (was epic as LotR? Silly fun like box machina? Testosterone fueled adventures like conan?) and also launched in the middle of the covid epidemic. People wouldn't risk go to the cinema for a film they had no clear idea on their intention and design. Which is a shame, because the film is incredible and I'm pretty sure it will get a placed next to classics like Willow or legend.
>>154031367Capeshit was making so much money that Hollywood forgot that is a lot for a movie.
>>154031110>>154031359I guarantee Crystal Skull had little effect on Dial on Destiny bombing. Remember that KotCS was one of the highest grossing films of that year, and received decent reviews. The hate for it is almost entirely based online.DoD bombed because no one wanted to see Indy as a bitter, borderline suicidal old man.>>154032726Honor Among Thieves came out in 2023, anon. That’s well after COVID could be blamed on a film doing badly.
>>154032805https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-pandemic-endemic-virus-b2714475.htmlIt depends on your definition. Covid as pandemic was declared over in 2023 by the WHO, but still was considered a menace and impacted business world wide for some time more. Experts still were cautious until 2025. Now, as for the cinema goes, it took even more to be back on track and during 2023 even the top grossing films were losing money at the box office. While Barbie and mario crossed the billion, fast X, little mermaid and mission impossible lost money and still were some of the films who earned more money.
>>154032805>DoD bombed because no one wanted to see Indy as a bitter, borderline suicidal old man.I also personally didn't care for them going back to the nazi well.It's fucking 1969. Surely there are someone else more interesting they could antagonize him with.It doesn't even have to be Soviets. The Chinese, Cuba, Fransico Franco, fucking the CIA could all work. Just do something new.
>>154032693Not with Der Maus helming it.
>>154032726It launched a week before Mario, that's what killed inThat is a November/December movie which is where they originally had it
>>154033133right, i forgot about disney being in charge after buying fox. i'd rather they don't tank alita like they did with star wars
>>154033084Fast X and MI8 underperformed because they were stupidly expensive films and the Little Mermaid remake had the controversy surrounding black Ariel.That’s also not bringing hits like No Way Home, Top Gun Maverick, Sonic 2 and Puss in Boots. Hell, a biographical movie based on Oppenheimer made under a billion.I guess you could argue COVID has an effect, but I feel it’s not the only or even main reason.
>>154032308You people calling a white guy shirtless kicking ass and getting babes movie a "woke" movie over a black lead comedy now?
>>154033246Nta but the actors and director of He-man have been saying woke stuff in interviews. That being said scary movie 6 is 100% gonna lean more into jokes about white people and Republicans more so than anything actually edgy so that anon is still retarded
>>154031484Honestly, theaters have been changing their models post-Covid and with the ongoing economic slump to rely less on pure numbers, and more on addons. It's why before we used to have only a few big blockbusters with popcorn buckets and drink cups, now anything even remotely buzzed will probably have something. Hell He-Man has 3 buckets, multiple cups, and even stuff like cocktails at the theaters with built in bars.
I JUST WANTED A GOOD HE-MAN MOVIE FOR FUCK SAKE
Sad really. I like the he-man aesthetics
>>154028177They thought that cause they brought in the bitch who directed Barbie. Turns out, her shitty feminist bullshit doesnt work for a series about muscly dudes fighting each other for the sake of the universe.
>The Darkness does a song for the movie >It's not very good Shame these guys usually deliver
>>154036301Wait, she is directing the new MotU Movie?That makes o sense, Barbie is a girl's brand, it made sense she directed it.
>>154036380No, MOTU’s director is Travis Knight. I’m not sure what anon is talking about.
they shouldve just let joel be skeletor
>>154036520THE PIZZA, HE-MAN!
>>154027965>I need to talk about boxoffice >>>/tv/
>>154035605and the best you will ever get is robot chicken sketches.
>>154032805>>154033085They failed to make Indiana Jones look cool again.In 2007 there was a revival of the franchise to prepare for Kotcs, merchandise, toys, and LEGO Indiana Jones.For a franchise whose last entry was in the late 80s it captured the imagination of many kids, I know that because I had LEGO Indiana Jones as a kid, it’s still one of my favorite games and introduced me to the franchise and made me want to watch the movies, Dial of Destiny never had that marketing campaign that made him look cool to new generations. New kids don’t care about this franchise and their parents don’t want to see their childhood hero in an adventure where he is feels like a secondary character to his titular franchise.>>154028177Warner had a smart marketing campaign and luck.Barbie sold itself as a girls movie which makes sense for a female centered brand, and the Barbenheimer phenomenon made it a must see event.Why would I want to watch a movie from a brand whose only iconic entry is a glorified commercial from the 80s?
>>154036744>Why would I want to watch a movie from a brand whose only iconic entry is a glorified commercial from the 80s?It'd have to be like Barbie where they explicitly make and market the movie to appeal to men and boys. That was never ever going to happen though
>>154028068>>154030163He's the first credit scene.
>>154036744>>154036793It's weird that Ken has the only complete character arc and Will Farrell steals every scene he's in in what is meant to be a movie for girls and women.
>>154030167How? It's a low budget movie made by some dude that started making videos on YouTube about it based on a 4chan screencap.
>>154030488Movies might be more expensive to make but keep in mind that inflation has really devalued to purchasing power of the dollar as well so it's not *as* ludicrous as it might seem on paper.
>>154032308Imagine watching any Scary Movie past the original
>>154036803It happens every now and then >Paul Verhooven wants to subvert starship troopers >It just feels like a good scifi war movie instead >Paul Thomas Anderson makes an entire movie >Racist chud is the only memorable part
>>154036867>Wait holup holup. what if a mouse goes outside? Does it become a rat? 3 is the funniest one though
>>154036744I had a similar thing with Indy, funnily enough. I wasn’t even aware what Indiana Jones was until the LEGO sets and game came out, even had my older brother take me to see it (I was horrified at multiple points of that film, lmao).The fact that Disney failed to get those boys in seats is just indicative of how often they fail to capture the boys’ market barring the MCU.>Why would I want to watch a movie from a brand whose only iconic entry is a glorified commercial from the 80s?It also helps Barbie has cross-generational appeal. Besides the dolls, they had the direct to DVD movies and the Life in the Dreamhouse show that a lot of Gen Z women have an attachment to that keeps it in the limelight.He-Man has an incredibly unique aesthetic that, besides nostalgic Gen Xers, only appeals to cartoon and fantasy nerds.
>>154036803>It's weird that Ken has the only complete character arc and Will Farrell steals every scene he's in in what is meant to be a movie for girls and women>Movie for women.>They only care for the men.Just like my Japanese fujos/yumejos
>>154036817I find it funny how a movie from a guy that is not legally allowed to drink in the US and was born after Revenge of the Sith released defeated a Star Wars movie at the Box Office.>>154036893And Toy Story 3 had her in a major role (in TS2 she is mostly there for jokes and in TS4 she is only in a minor role in the intro flashback)Also MOTU is as boys centric as you can get and Studios are allergic to promoting boy centric franchises to boys.
>>154036873Yah I'm a massive 40k fag and love starship troopers the movie but still blown away by that. I even read the book and have a mixed opinion on it, but the movie is a wonderful parody that's always pointing that out.
She's in
>>154037894This'll be the second time in a row she was a tease for a sequel that will never come
>>154037906I dont know shittier things have gotten sequels like your gene pool.
>>154027965Suck it Travis Knight
>>154036893I'm a 90s kid and it appeals to me. It's got big dudes with swords magic skeletons and robots and shit. What kind of fucking faggot would that not appeal to
>>154030090Because they want prime era MCU money and He-Man is the only IP they own that's remotely like it
>>154027965You think you could do the movie with 20 million? Why do you think in the 80s majority of the movie took place on Earth?
>>154029783Or maybe horror is just very popular currently
>>154030090When Barbie did extremely well they green lit a shit ton of toy related movies. Like Galoob. Do you know what a Galoob is? Does anyone under 60? But Barbie is literally the reason why. I imagine all that shit about Disney slowly losing the young Male audience and fucking up star wars so bad helped though. I cant explain why Galoob though...
>>154032308So let me get this straight: He-Man movie that has overwhelmingly a white cast is woke because reasons, but a comedy by black filmmakers that prominently features black characters, one of which has a reoccurring bit about them doing all kinds of gay things, isn’t woke?
>>154027965>>154028762I might be wrong, but way I see it, I think the sad truth is that cinema is pretty much dying. The only movies that are still successful enough to at least pay for themselves are:>SOME animations>SOME kid's movies, and>SOME nostalgia bait movies>If the movie is considered exceptionally goodEverything else struggles to break even.
>>154033085>It doesn't even have to be Soviets. Because they were in the previous movie and they were boring as fuck.>The ChineseThe Chinese would literally make no sense. The early 60s they underwent a famine, in the late 60s they were busy doing the cultural revolution. China wasn’t international powerhouse back then, old man Indy trying to sneak into Communist China and not get caught immediately wouldn’t work at all.>CubaWTF would Indy do in Cuba? Especially after Bay of Pigs and the missile crisis?>FrancoThe US and Spain were allies, what possible reason would there be for Franco to serve as a villain for an archeological adventure story even if it was set in Spain? I get that Franco was a fascist but how do you make that work for an Indiana Jones story where Spain is the villain?>fucking the CIAI don’t really see Hollywood agreeing to do a blockbuster movie where CIA overthrows democratic governments overseas let alone be able to tie it into some type of archeological site where they would be fighting Indy.The reason nazis work so well as villains is because Indy is a character inspired by 40s adventure serials and Nazis were also obsessed with the occult. Even in 60s Nazis trying to rewrite history works for an old Indy story
>>154033410>Bro, interview!I really don’t understand this nonstop obsession to seek out and read online interviews and clickbait articles just so you get a reason to rage about movies before they’re even out. You can’t apparently judge a movie by its own merits, you have to form a moronic opinion about it based on random comments made during PR tours that usually don’t actually mean jackshit