Why do people call Superman boring for being unkillable but not Wolverine?
there's a bunch of ways to kill wolverine, drowning for instance.
>>154038225wolverine IS the epitome of boring
>>154038253No
>>154038225Because stabby stabby kill kill kill is cool, bub
>>154038271Yes, you cockmongling faggot
>>154038271Wolverine literally became the mary sue unstoppable killing machine. Superman at least can say he was the first, what is sniktbub's excuse?
>>154038365Nice cope>>154038370Why do you seethe so much?
>>154038384oh I see.
>>154038395No.
>that one-man sniktbub defense armykek
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>>154038225because superman has super strength, flying, and invulnerability were as wolverine can very much be killed
>>154038370wolverine being literally unkillable is a fairly recent development, mostly from the X-men trilogy where he could heal bullet wounds in real timeeven his most impressive healing feat pre-movie, surviving having the adamantium ripped from his bones, still required him to be hooked up to life support for a whilefor most of the 80s, healing factor worked slowly, when he got wounded it would actually slow him down and he wouldnt get better until the next issuehealing factor only meant an abridged stay in the hospital, days instead of months, but even normal guns could take him down and even in the movies?he isnt THAT indestructiblehe is forced to concede defeat in several situations rather than risk continuingand he successfully kills someone with comparable healing factor to himself, deathstrike, by injecting her with liquid metal the one example people keep bringing up, healing in real time while being disintegrated, was admitted by the director to be purely a matter of being dramatic and says thats not how powerful his healing factor is normally
>>154038428superman also routinely fights people who can fight and realistically kill himhe might be unkillable to normal humans but he has gotten his ass kicked repeatedly in the comics by aliens the reason he had to resort to kryptonite to kill the zod and company is because he wasnt strong enough to beat one of them, much less all 3
>>154038407Nice fanfic
>>154038447>wolverine being literally unkillable is a fairly recent developmentwe're talking about 20+ years bubnobody cares about the 80s
>>154038225Because secondaries at least read some Superman before saying that, Wolverine "fans" never get that far.
>>154038428>Death in capeshitBrilliant argument, retard
>>154038482>nobody cares about the 80s>every major storyline used is from the 80s
>>154038482Other way around, mutants don't exist past the 90s.
>>154038225>MANo superhero game should ever get a higher rating than PG or E10+. Edgy capeshit needs to die forever.
>>154038567Shut up, you pussy
>>154038225Its recent. Back then, he was basically Temu Beast.Whenever he was wounded, he still needed to rest. The healing factor was there to let him survive stuff, not to run into machine guns fire.
>>154038502>a rehash of a rehash and variation
>>154038559They do, it's just that they're not relevant much. DC bulls completely cuck marlel
>>154038271How many Wolverine comics have you read?
>>154038647but despite the changes, its still identifiably the same story used in the 80s
>>154038577This whole "Wolverine can't work because healing factor" is a totally new thing. No one ever had a problem with him having a death state before.
>>154039011also, "cant be killed" doesnt mean "cant be beat"magneto beats him with comical ease in every one of the X-men movies, even the one where he doesn have a metal skeleton, despite being the adaptation that drastically increased the potency of his healing factor
>>154039011>No one ever had a problem with him having a death state before.That's kinda logic. His brain and heart are still flesh after all. Hell, he got knocked out by a bullet in the X-men United movie.It only became over the top during the early 2000 where he survive Nitro and regenerated from his skeleton.
>>154038225Wolverine is just a guy with claws.You can dispose of him very easely if you're not comicbook vilain retarded.Superman has a lot of powers, if you don't have kryptonite, you need Doomsday-tier of strength to put him down.
>>154039355It also depends on the variation of Superman we're discussing, much like the variation of Wolverine we're discussing. Gunn's Superman was pretty weak, as was Timm's. Then, much like Wolverine, Superman's comic counterpart ranges from "wow, he can tank a lot" to "haha cosmic infinity powers".
>>154038225>Huh? Wolverine is coming? Don't worry, guys! I have a great idea! We'll SHOOT HIM! Anons, I think we can do better. How would (You) deal with a regenerator? First idea out of my head is using a Mr Freeze/Captain Cold sort of weapon. He'd dethaw slower than he would heal, giving you time to trap him.
>>154039301whoever wrote that issue shud be crucified
>>154038225Superman isn't boring because he's unkillable. He's boring because he's unkillable, all-powerful, all-benevolent, constrained by cape writing, and surrounded by dicksucking fans and editors who need him to never stray an inch from his brand-approved portrayal unless it's a black label book.
>>154039417Sure thing.
>>154039417
>>154039440Nice seething.
>>154039450?
>>154038225Logan is boring too.
>>154039623No
>>154039609Filename
>>154038447>half his shelftime>fairly recent
Just toss him into the sun. What is he gonna do? Fly back?
>>154039633>Superfag maldingProving my point.
>>154040085You wish
>>154039757That's almost what happened that time when the Not-Justice League replaced others meta humans in Marvel.Not-Green Lantern caught Wolverine and transported him on a far-away, devoid of lives, food and water planet.
>>154040114Your concession has been accepted.
>>154038253Based. I was always more of a Cyclops guy but he gets dogged on in nearly every adaptation because the producers can't help but suck off Wolverine.
>>154038225Superman isn't boring because he's unkillable, he's boring because he can solve every problem at any time he wants with ease. Wolverine is a guy with knives in his hands, he solves knives in his hands problems.
I hope Moonstar's in it. She really needs a bone thrown
>>154040211>he's boring because he can solve every problem at any time he wants with easethis has never happened in his comicsa major theme between him and post-crisis lex is that he has to follow the ruleshe has to purposefully restrain himself from zapping lex luthor because he cant just punch all of his good publicity away
>>154040260>he has to follow the rulesYes, I'll repeat myself. He CAN solve every problem at any time he wants with ease. He CHOOSES not to for reasons.
>>154038225Wolverine is a survivor, everytime he fights it's a struggle. The one time Superman had to fight someone who could actually fight him back he died.>>154039375Wolverine would murder these clowns, Mr.Freeze is just a guy, he won't have the reflexes to shoot a beam at Logan, Captain Cold fights the Flash he would do better but their powers are irrelevant against HOT CLAWS!
>>154042278Nope, manlet
>>154040280>He CAN solve every problem at any time he wants with ease>with easethere is no way he can easily apprehend lex, because he will just be out of jail the next day while looking like a psychothis only leaves killing lex, which he chooses not to do because of moral reasons, which is the exact same kind of moral conflict everyone of varying power levels haseven spider-man grapples with the same thingbecause killing the enemy is easy>He CHOOSES not to for reasons.thats like saying all super powered individuals are boring because they choose to follow the law
>>154039417So just like Batman?
>>154038225You can kill Wolverine and Superman.
>>154038225>Wolverine>manlet>hairy>angry>annoying mary-sue
>>154038225because Wolverine isn't unbeatable, unkillable and unbeatable aren't the same thing
>>154043340And still very popular because comic fans can self insert on him and not superman
>>154038253>>154040184finally good taste on /co/
>>154043653Metal claws are better
>>154038225Wolverine, despite being Canadian, isn't a goodie two shoes person
>>154040211Maybe it's just the issues I read (I got the recent "Kryptonite Nevermore" book) but the I get the impression that Superman usually has to figure out a way to resolve the situation without blowing his cover as Clark and the times he does resolve the case without issue, it's usually in the most roundabout, trickster way possible.
>>154043273Batman has a cooler costume and is more toyetic
>>154042348I know all of that. You're describing the contrivance by the writer to make a story about the most unbeatable being in the universe struggle with a bald CEO work. If you're entertained by that then don't let anyone stop you but audiences can also find that contrivance boring.
People mistake hard to kill as unkillable or immortal. For all of the Krakoa era's faults, they showed pretty clearly that Wolverine was plenty killable. He'd be hard for kill for ordinary people like us who don't have a handle on military grade explosives or some kind of industrial grade acid, but he's far from unstoppable if a 500-pound bomb was dropped right on him and spread him out like jelly, or if someone with super strength ripped him in half like a phone book.>>154038253He has the most boring power set out of any of the X-Men, that's for sure.
>>154038253spbpThey have to pull a magneto card to deal with him and when they do it's so boring
>>154043273I think both Superman and Batman are bad
>>154044426You are wrong
>>154038225Because with Wolverine most of the time you see his fuckin organs and shit. Superman taking damage usually means tanking a solid punch but that’s really it
>>154043768>despite being Canadian, isn't a goodie two shoes personyou know nothing of Canadians
>>154038225Punisher beat his ass with a steamroller. Someone post it, I can't be arsed converting a webp
>>154038253Correct, the absolute worst of the x-men
>>154044152>gets nuked>recovers>smothered in adamantium>recovers
>>154048036>gets nukedHe's been killed by far less, multiple times, he's just one of the most inconsistently displayed characters in comics because he's second only to Batman in terms of his popularity correlating with his ability to bullshit through a problem.>smothered in adamantiumMarketing bullshit, character deaths were always used to gin up interest, it's just by that point, everybody was used to it and nobody was falling for it.
>>154038225Wolverine is a literal manlet, never bathes, is covered in body hair, emotionally incontinent regarding his temper on Jean obsession with incel tendencies in X-Men TAS (the infamous YOU CAN'T HAVE HER! crashout over Jean and Scott's wedding where he brutally eviscerated robot expies of Cyclops) and an edgy, brooding 'loner' with a tragic string of backstories for 200+ year lifetime pre-Weapon X amnesia.TLDR: He is the perfect edgelord power fantasy for his fans and writers like Ben Percy when he gets to cuck Cyclops as the bull of fuck his hotwife Jean Grey in a hot tub.
>>154052106>(the infamous YOU CAN'T HAVE HER! crashout over Jean and Scott's wedding where he brutally eviscerated robot expies of Cyclops)Man, it really was a different time wasn't it?
>>154044141>I know all of thatthen you should have no problem>You're describing the contrivance by the writer to make a story about the most unbeatable being in the universe struggle with a bald CEO work.a man who has to follow the law even when it makes his job harder is not unique to supermanyou are calling having laws and following them a contrivance at this point>If you're entertained by that then don't let anyone stop you but audiences can also find that contrivance boring.its a plot thats used a lot across a wide variety of charactersso clearly it is a plot that stays fresh regardless of how often its used
>>154038225Wolverine, when not being power-wanked) can be taken out of action by normal means (ex: shooting him in the head, presuming he doesn't have an adamantine skull at the time).He can be captures, contained, too far away to be of any concern, clawed, mauled, bruised, battered, sautéed, and poisoned (though he recovers quickly... hell, recovering at all can be amazing. I think some ancient poisons, like hemlock, still has no antidote)..
>>154038225Because people don't actually think Superman is boring because of his powers, they just repeat that because some faggot on the Internet said it and it sounds "smart" to them.
>>154038234Bruh, there's an arc where he's thrown into the Sun, he disintegrates and is turned into cosmic dust, a single atom of his lands in Earth thousands of years later and that single atom regenerates into Logan.He can't be killed. Period.
>>154038225>people call Superman boring for being unkillableThat started with Gen-Xer fags, so we ended up getting depowered Superman and if he was powerful then he'd have to be some evil psycho. Millennials and newer gens embrace how Superman is super powerful that why we like Goku and anime character that are like that and Superboy Prime.
>>154038225Insomniac wolverine is likely to be so bad people will wish it was just boring after how they handled spiderman.
>erm acktually chud, its X-People
>>154038225Spidey has a more friendly appearance. One look at Wolverine and you KNOW the guy is deadly
>>154038225As a layman, my guess is that since Logan’s more an anti-hero, his inner turmoil is more front and center compared to Superman.
>>154038225Hmmm
>>154054285Cope
>>154038253Over the years, Wolverine has only had two storylines: "What's his origin?" and "Being involved in a boring love triangle." I don't understand why he's become so popular.
>>154038253>wolverine IS the epitome of boringWhich X-Men isn't boring tho? Jean? Cyclops? Storm? Lol.
>>154062063He's cool, you wouldn't get it.
If X-Men costumes are made from unstable molecules which take on the powers or physical properties of its wearer, then how come Wolverine's suit doesn't heal with him?
>>154062145>hairy >stinky>manlet>bisexual >canadian>coolYes, I will never get it.
>>154062634Nice cope.
>>154062145Not that anon, but I grew up during his peak popularity period in the early 00s and still can't understand why he was sucked off so much, especially since Gambit was right there and had like an infinitely better personality and more interesting power set.
>>154038225Insomniac Wolverine can die if his heart stops.
>>154054230That's not a mainline story and also not really typical for Wolverine. You're like the retards that think normal base superman from normal comics is the exact same as the thought robot version.
X-men fags don't read anything but X-men
>>154038225Do you think that's why Superman is boring and not his slew of better powers?
>>154038225Wolverine is near invincible, his friends aren't.
>>154054230>>154038253Wolverine problem is the level of wank he has(batman tier) it appear in every team so is overexauster.But unlike batman , who even to this days people care about nuBatman runs(Morrison, Dini, Tomasi, Snyder, even Hush or Rucka), last time a wolverine run was decent was Hama.And before that only Miller come to mind.Hell when people tell you about modern Wolverine runs, they talk about Origins or Old man logan , origins stories or other earth stories, even with Superman they tell you about Tomasi, PJK, Williamson ,Geoff or Morrison.Wolverine is the epitome of boring because Marvel doesn't care about writing the character only to made him look cool, which is why the character has been bad since 1997
surf dracula but for x-men
>>154068686he's solo in the game.
>>154038384>>154038396>>154038478>>154038574>>154039450Nice arrest, also you're going to bed because his 5th movie will never be made and no your denialism can save it, cunt.
>>154062644>>154062030>>154044446>>154042295Nice arrest, again, because you can't handle the truth about big mac's cock, brainlet.
