>>154047852
My hype was that fans would be disappointed, and it looks like I'm right. Now I just wait for them to realize how shit it always was and why...

>>154047852
No.

>>154047907
>Now I just wait for them to realize how shit it always was and why...
I anticipate a whole cycle of disappointment surrounding Glitch's shows. If I were a betting person, I'd wager Gameoverse will have the worst finale of them all. Not that it was ever good to begin with.

>>154048213
>I'd wager Gameoverse will have the worst finale of them all.
Reset ending or a Kit does a Star Butterfly ending?

>>154048407
I think it'll be a mostly unresolved ending ala. Reboot, they're basically lifting parts of Matrix's arc wholesale.

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>>154047852
It was only alright. They didn't nail the landing but they didn't crash the plane. Some parts of the finale felt very pointless given how it resolved (conjuring in the circus, trying to un-abstract Jax, etc.), and some of the most important stuff was told to us instead of shown (Jax's backstory, Caine's redemption, etc.). Gooseworx seems to rely on people talking and telling their feelings a lot in order to resolve character dilemmas. But that's not why the show got off the ground: it's the elements that were shown which made it work. I get that has a place with Jax, since sincerity is the antidote to irony, but I don't feel like the idea of resisting irony is present anywhere else in the finale. As such I'm somewhat confused as to what the primary narrative throughline is.

6/10, it was an okay ending

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Ummm hatesisters, I thought everyone was supposed to hate it?

>>154048689
>no critic reviews
Yeah, they're gonna tear this a new one.

>>154048605
There wasn't much to crash in the first place. Essentially everything important that happened happened in three episodes.

>>154048706
The critics haven't even seen the show, they won't even review this

>>154047907
The pilot has something off. It's the only episode I watched and after finding out the creator is a tranny it now makes sense. I refuse to watch the rest of the show because I'm guessing it's just a bunch of characters that are basically gay or the guy's self inserts like Pomni.

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>>154048724
Ehhhhhh... I don't think that stopped critics before. King of Thieves was technically the finale to the Aladdin TV series.
>33% critic scores
The fuck? I thought this was higher regarded than Return of Jafar.

>>154048689
This poster pisses me off because it gave me the impression Jax was going to do so much more creating of things, that he'd have a bit of trying to treat the place as his own plaything before abstracting. Instead it's just the poster artists hard carrying

Genuine question. Is there ANYTHING that could have actually turned this fanbase? They are way too committed.

>>154048872
Define the fanbase. There's a very, very vocal subsection that now vehemently hate the show. Best you could say is the fanbase is bipolar.

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>>154047852
Why the fuck did Goose choose to center the finale around Jax?
He really isn't that goddamn interesting
It's also hilarious how even though the swear filter is removed, there's barely any cursing. TADC fans will have to accept that this is a kids show sooner or later

>>154048872
Goose renounces to pretending to be a woman, calls his fanbase a bunch of mentally ill people and then tells them to vote for Republicans.

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>soma theory is real
>jax abstracts offscreen
>pomni goes into his mind for like 20 minutes but he stays abstracted anyway
>caine is still alive and is good now
>they continue going on adventures forever with caine replacing jax

it was not good

post the mkv

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>>154047852
>The leaks were fucking real
>Literally a 1:1
As a jaxfag, I really don't know what to do

I think it focused too much on Jax.

Not really a fan of how their backstories were just infodumped.

>>154049182
>literally a 1:1
so it was an earlier version with minor changes?

sex with Ribbit

>>154049182
>>The leaks were fucking real
It was hilarious in hindsight seeing just how far some people were willing to go just to "prove" that the leak was "fake."

>>154049383
It was Stranger Things all over again

>>154049403
I'm an R&Sfag, and even I accepted that the leaked reboot we were given was total crap. What makes TADCfags react so differently to leaks? (Keep in mind, I only saw its pilot and dipped because I knew it wasn't going to be for me.)

>>154049383
I'm gonna laugh at Danny North's apology if he ever bothers to

>>154049293
I would beat Jax to death with my bare hands for wasting the hottest piece of frog ass in the digiverse. We would find out how much pain his cartoon body could take before forcibly abstracting.

>>154049535
I'm pretty sure he was gay too, otherwise that mf wouldn't abandon her

>>154049482
It's hard for them to accept their perfect creator Gooseworx made anything bad, even though the entire show peaked at the pilot and has only gotten progressively worse each episode

>>154049647
>even though the entire show peaked at the pilot
Huh, then I dipped at the right time LMAO. Looked to be some hyperactive Zamination stuff that would've never appealed to me.

>>154049715
The main issue is that so much is set up in the pilot that is basically never expanded upon until episode 8 and even then, it's not sufficiently explained because we have to focus on Jax.

Whenever Jax is not in the room, everyone should ask where is Jax, am I right?

>>154049788
So what I'm getting at is the show does a complete 180 on the protagonist focus? Porn artists gave me the impression that it was the Pomni show, not the Jax show.

>>154048689
I'm just back from the theater and it got two standing ovations (pre and post credits), hate isn't how I would describe it

>>154048787
That audience AND critic score are both insane. I loved this movie as a kid and thought it was a great follow-up to the original film.

>>154049850
Pomni is mostly a viewer avatar.

>>154049850
Nah, it's still the Pomni movie, they make a point of the fact she's the one holding everyone together, the one who understood that abstractions aren't unsalvageable, the one who could instinctively conjure stuff beside Kinger, who had already made peace with staying in the circus forever. A lot of Jax's situation is there so Pomni can be the one to get him out of his shell and unite everyone to rebuild the circus

>>154049919
Ah, that explains why her personality felt so paper-thin compared to literally everyone else. (I suppose the excuse is that she's a "newbie", but if the show really did just focus on Jax later on, then my red flags were raised at the correct time.)

>>154049992
>A lot of Jax's situation is there so Pomni can be the one to get him out of his shell and unite everyone to rebuild the circus
From what you just described so far, I'm guessing the whole Jax thing was a subplot? Fair, you kinda need one to fill over an hour.

>>154050020
No, it's one of the main focuses, just that it's all within the context of Pomni's attempt to save him when everyone else is just having regrets and leaving him for dead (until her efforts inpire them).

>>154048689
So Circus Shit fans are lemmings, good to know.

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>>154050459
oh brother,
at least get some footage or show any insane things if they happen

>>154047852
It's a really really cheerful ending, it's not good, but at least kids in the audience had fun, and I hope this ending won't upset the fandom too much

>>154050634
>I hope this ending won't upset the fandom too much
You've been eating shit for three years; don't pretend to have standards now.

Pomni turned to him in the theater because she was afraid he had abstracted. She opened the door when he was on the verge of abstracting and asked if he was okay. Even after his button-smashing moment, she could see he was at his breaking point. Yes, he doubled down, and she was probably disappointed, but when he almost reached out to her, how the hell did she just let him go?

Come on, Goose, at least for the sake of the fucking drama, have her try to stop him like in that scene from the Haruhi movie. The show is supposed to be about empathy and care, yet we ended up with that 'I regret not reaching out to him' shit. They should have shown the audience that no matter what she tries, he still won't listen, and then abstract him. That would have at least made her look like an actual hero everyone strives to be.

>>154050731
>The show is supposed to be about empathy and care
And Cooper is a ghoul, so naturally, he only knows enough about those things to make society rape itself to please him and the rest of the castration cult.

>>154048872
You haven't been on twitter, the superfandom-types were looking for something to eat and dogpiled Kovatch and Goose hard for being "racist" and swearing up and down that they would never forgive the anyone working on the show or Glitch. Then the finale leaked and they got to rip into it at the height of the fervor.

>>154050553
https://catbox.moe/#20260604_174532.mp4

>>154050679
You've been yelling that everything is shit for decades, don't pretend you ever had intelligence

>>154050862
https://files.catbox.moe/30qjbx.mp4

>>154050875
>You've been yelling that everything is shit for decades
And its especially true for Circus Shit and its creator.
>don't pretend you ever had intelligence
Why pretend what's true?

It created so much buzz that the girl I'm seeing asked me to fuck her in her clown suit. And for this reason, it was a huge success (I've seen zero seconds of the show).

>>154050731
I dunno, I feel it's really funny everyone expected a big freakout but it just directly cuts post-abstraction (and you get the freakout later anyway)

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>>154048787
critics were reviewing it as a sequel to aladdin, not a finale to the tv show

>>154051118
Honestly? Good point, which is likely why Return of Jafar got such a bad rep despite being a literal TV pilot.

>>154050793
That edgelord scammed so many people.
I really think VAs been lying or crying cause of how anticathartic it was.

So when is someone going to upload an english version of the movie

>>154050634
The "outrage" really was just Funnybunnyfags blowing a gasket.

>>154051036
that dude's nose looks like a tiny fist

>>154047852
Kinda.
I'm seeing a lot of people expressing how overblow and exaggerated was the fandom with the finale.

>>154051166
Yeah, Glitch in about two weeks

>>154048689
>people who buy tickets for a cartoon thatll be made free in 2 weeks are going to be the most diehard fans
>they would have said it was good no matter what
>and you would have them saying it was good just to spite the people who said it was bad
Reviews sites have always been worthless. News at 11.

>>154051156
No, they just capitulate to the cult because they work under one of its members. He could've turned in chicken-scratch on used toilet paper and they would've treated it like a masterpiece; that's basically wat they were already doing for three years.

>>154047907
A big reason for Amazing Digital Circus becoming so popular is being FREE on youtube. Same to other shit like Helluva Boss. If you request money strictly to be allowed to watch the episodes everyone would be cruel to this show's shoddy writing. Same to other examples like Murder Drones. You can't demand money for trite or people will review it harshly. Few things can get away with this treatment like retarded The Minions and Paw Patrol Movies.

Hope that people start to turn away from shitty animated media be it indie or not.

>>154047852
I've said this on another thread, and I'll say it again. Screw this thing where writers just try and do a super innovative ending.
If you don't have an idea for an actually great ending, just make a standard good ending. Put some action scenes, some drama, some comedy, but ultimately make everyone escape, the end. Everyone is happy, no one will hate you for the ending, life goes on, etc.

>>154051311
It is a standard good ending. Plenty of deus ex machina, the abstracted or Kane aren't really dead, they can continue having wacky circus shenanigans only they enjoy it, and their human selves weren't trapped in the first place and live fulfilling lives in the real world.

>>154051307
>A big reason for [Circus Shit] becoming so popular is being FREE
So they spent their time, willingly, after getting past the abysmal pilot. No standards, in other words. That or naked capitulation, by fan and crew alike, to the castration cult.

>>154050895
You sound like a faggot.

>>154051396
>And having bastard hacks from Game Grumps?
IKR? The most baffling decision IMO was having Arin be the sound mixer, which was the worst choice Ross could've possibly made. Being a friend of Ross is one thing, but having this much involvement? It's a terrible sign of things to come.

Did the leak have the Zach Hadel bit at the beginning?

>>154047852
No. If they wanted the movie experience, it should have been a full length feature on its own. It was just a vanity thing from Glitch to try to get into the big leagues.

>>154051499
No, just some talking fish I could care less about begging the viewer not to spoil the film LOL.

>>154051249
English voices so I can make clips

>>154051525
>begs the viewer not to spoil the film
>spoils that Caine dies in the second to last episode, even though some people might have avoided watching it for the theater experience
Wow wtf

>>154051566
Gameoverse was exactly what I expected to happen if Monkey Wrench ended up with a female MC instead. Guess gooners don't have standards after all.

>>154051566
that's the voices they had in the original version

Remember, criticism of this shitshow means you're bullying a transwoman

>>154051706
>masturbators have always been annoying.
Agreed, they remind me of the sheep from Animal Farm who bleet "four legs good, two legs bad" to drown out any discussion. (Decided to read it yesterday because I was watching a bunch of adaptations.)

I will summon Yakub to block crackers from gathering at their clan meetups in TADC finale showings!

>>154047852
camrip???????????

>>154051727
Exactly, the original Gameoverse was a Charlie the Unicorn-type show where goofier voices would've made sense. Nu-Gameoverse tries to be as serious as ReBoot, yet Arin's voices largely remained unchanged. Out of all the voices in the entire thing, Snappers was the one with the most effort put into it.

>>154050895
ebic win, bro

There’s no reason that Jax dominated 40 minutes and Caine dominated 10 minutes of the finale, both characters were already dead.
I think in a longer show, all the Jax flashbacks would have been welcome as a separate episode but as is, it’s unsatisfying.
It’s not even like the actual ending part of the ending is bad, but how they got there was just completely lacklustre which a shame because the flashback scenes in there are good but don’t work as a finale

>>154051846
He sounded very femboy-ish, which is exactly like the kind of TADC fan I have in my head.

damn even reddit dot com is tearing the finale a new behind

>>154051873
He had a lisp and there was mass to his steps when he ran. I bet hes some fat autist rather than the cute femboy in your head.

>>154051973
It's probably both if I'm being honest.

>>154051877
Oh wow yeah if reddit is saying something /co/ should listend to it

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BOOOOOO

>>154052109
That's just Prince if he was in Morioh. That would be fucking awesome.

>>154050930
Goose just wanted to make the death of a self-insert a goddamn joke, wonder when he's gonna become a hero.
IDK, if Pomni'd tried to save him prior abstraction, that'd have paid off all of that buildup of her looking out for him.
And him stepping on those godforsaken flashbombs don't make any sense given she was hugging him tightly the whole time, wtf was that anyways?

>>154052109
Is that Prince?

>>154052260
>Goose just wanted to make the death of a self-insert a goddamn joke
You never see the abstractionsh happen so I doubt it, if anything Queenie's abstraction was treated as much more of a joke.

>>154048762
I can't wait for it to be exposed that Youtube promo'd and botted the ever loving shit out of it because of that reason alone. It's so damned predictable. Watch the actual IRL movie ticket sales be a box office bomb and show how much of a fraud the "most popular and bestest cartoon evar in 20 years" had to have on it's side to get to where it is.

>>154052547
>Watch the actual IRL movie ticket sales be a box office bomb
And people on this board thought it had a chance competing against TS5 KEK.

>>154052547
>Watch the actual IRL movie ticket sales be a box office bomb
A bit late for that, although if you happen to have a gate to an alternate reality you might still have a chance

>>154050875
Faggot lmao

>>154052633
I mean compared against the youtube engagement levels. If you look up TADC fan discussion it's impressive to see it have even a twentieth of the views of the show, I expect that trend to continue once you subtract youtube bots from the equation again.

>>154049182
I’m so confused. Why would you look at the leaks? Like why wouldn’t you just look away and not risk anything?

>>154047852
they very rapidly accepted eternal life in the digital circus

>>154049088
Ok so can they juat... go into abstractions or what? Is the person still in there? What even is an abstraction?

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>>154049647
>Murder Drones gets better with each episode
>TADC gets worse with each episode
Huh. Weird world.

I feel my issues with the ending aren’t the things that happened, but the things that didn’t. Not in a “i made an ending in my head and I’m mad it’s not that” way, but in a “did they just forget about that thing they set up X episodes ago” way.

Weirdest is that neither Bubble nor Gumigoo appear in 9 at all, even as just a cameo in the credits of random adventures.

>>154048213
I sleep like a baby knowing Gameoverse will not reach the same heights as TADC. I'd kill myself if I saw Gameoverse everywhere as I did TADC.

Went to the cinema to see this and it was pretty good

Is there a camrip yet?

>>154051307
>Same to other shit like Helluva Boss.
it was succesfully funded with patreon members

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>>154047852
what was the point of building up to tranny jax just to pussy out last second?

>>154053637
TADC's popularity is literal lighting in a bottle, but I think that even if Gameoverse's pilot only gets to 50 Million it will still be everywhere on the internet, believe that

>>154054144
>[Circus Shit]'s popularity is literal lighting [sic] in a bottle
Didn't know "lightning in a bottle" could be that calculated and Astroturfed...

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>>154054205
>Didn't know "lightning in a bottle" could be that calculated and Astroturfed...
>Everything I don't like is astroturfed
If anything KoG and Gameoverse are more Astroturfed as the former was made because Dana used her industry connections to get Glitch to hire her immediately after she left Disney and the latter not only was rejected for 10 years for being slop no one cares about outside of the catgirl but it already has episodes in production.

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I genuinely hate glitch and vivziepop. It's like you stabbed western animation with a ritual dagger so all the festering internet faggotry can infect the body to finally kill off anything not made by anxiety riddled nerds who should have had their heads swirled in a toilet more in high school. Or maybe more like gaping it's anus open so furfags and trannies can fistfuck it into incoherent OC compilations with extremely tenuous premises. And with TADC pushing it forward, everything attached to it gets to win for free. I hate cheap victories and Glitch hands them out like STDs at a Phish concert now.

I want trendy internet animation to END.
I want character designs based on premises where anything and everything including incoherent mishmashes of quirky bullshit to END.
I want obvious furry waifubait to END.
I want the object heads to END.
I want it's shit amatuer sense of "humor" and drama to END.
I want the cringy, anime inspired voice acting to END.
I want the entirety of Glitch and everything it enables to GO. AWAY.

>>154054338
>>Everything I don't like
Glitch and Goodwin probably weren't even aware of it; Google just boosted the pilot in the algorithm as an act of capitulation to the castration cult, thanks in no small part to the West's "muh representation" psychosis over the last 250 years and the progressive illness it promoted for the same length of time.

>>154054453
>I want the entirety of Glitch and everything it enables to GO. AWAY.
It's not gonna happen unless the South Korea legal case results in Glitch losing all of their money and declaring bankruptcy.

>>154054533
The series already resulted in them losing izzat, maybe a karmic debt for supporting the cult is in order too...

>>154054562
>The series already resulted in them losing izzat
What? Who is Izzat?

>>154054031
There was no build up.

>>154054599
See the context around the word "karma."

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>>154047852
I don’t know if I could review this movie honestly. I had such a unique viewing experience. Not only did the audience have a lot of cosplayers. A stranger held my hand, rested her head on my shoulders, and ate from my popcorn bucket. I found out she was married to a marine and has two children. She kissed me. What the fuck?

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Just came from the theater, even though it got leaked and shit, I'd give around a 6 or 7. Even if you really like TADC, it's not worth a ticket unless you want to deal with snot nosed kids or annoying fujo teens screaming at uwu scenes. Watch a camrip or wait til 2 weeks.

>>154053215
It was something Pomni is able to do because she's stubborn enough to not give up and caring enough to break through the personas people put up. She learned Jax's backstory and what happened to Ribbit and Kaufmo and tried to comfort him as his mind died before everyone else pulled her out of it using a huge chain of Zooble arms.

>>154048851
That's on you for expecting a show with 8 therapy sessions to be any different the 9th time around.

>>154054827
>That's on you for expecting a show [that was always shit for 8 episodes] to be any different the 9th time around
Indeed.

>>154054031
goose said Jax is a self insert and there was no buildup to tranny Jax, it was really dropped out of nowhere for no reason other than to say bigoted people are just closet trannies and the reason theyre spitful and angsty is because they havent come out

>>154047852
Honestly for me it did. But I'm not a black pilled doomer fir media yet.

>>154047852
I’m a tranny and I’m going to abstract!

>>154054961
I still dont understand how he's a tranny.

>>154055013
he's not... yet. he has a lot to think about in his abstracted state according to pomni, so i guess the abstracted just need a nap and some therapy

>>154055013
He's a guy and he's a dick, and because Cooper is a castration cultist, he wanted to put him in a dress as many times as possible, judging by the merch and other promotional material. It's not an accident, Mr. Goodwin clearly wanted the audience to make the connection, because the cult is all about normalizing itself despite being antithetical to society as a whole.

>>154055013
it's too bad to, i would fuck the fembunny made

>>154047852
As a casual TADC fan, I thought the ending was alright, although Caine's return felt like an asspull. I'm sure there's some convenient lines in the terminal at the end of episode 8 that makes it make sense but idc. I was hoping for more on Scratch than what we got. The editing was also a bit wonky at points. Aside from that, everything else about the ending made sense and I was entertained throughout it so 7 out of 10 for the first viewing.

>>154055113
>a casual [Circus Shit] fan
Right, a casual shit-slurper. Small wonder you'd give your next turd to swallow a positive score...

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>>154055013
There's a notable implication in one of his memories of having a conversation with Ribbit. Jax tells her some big secret (we don't learn what it *specifically* was, though the more clear assumption it was the memory shown earlier where he severely injured his mom in an argument). Jax begins to freak out after opening up like this, but then Ribbit says that "[his] secret is safe with me", and puts her ribbon on his head, which causes him to be surprised and blush.

>>154055275
I know this is heckin relatable to the trannies but it feels like this is the only story they tell with a trans characters

>>154055347
>cultists only know how to relate to each other and do so the same way each and every time
You don't say...

>>154048762
It was Zooble wasn’t it?

>>154047907
Fpbp

Needed more comedy
Goose forgot there are two faces to a story

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The retrospective videos tearing the series to pieces in a few years will be great

>>154049535
to be fair I wouldn't trust a girl for trying to groom me into a tranny

>>154055656
>Needed [to not exist]
>[Cooper] forgot [that the cult is not relatable to normal society]
Minor correction.

>>154055013
Bro did you see the colors in his room?

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>>154055275
Thats fucking it? Jesus the 4chan brain worm of always seeing trannies in everything has warped most of the opinion pool on here didnt it? The writing in this show isnt fucking avant-garde here if Goose wanted to say the fuck is trans it be just as obvious as fucking Zooble. Its just a cute girl doing some gay ass gesture of affection.
And going by your comment specifically Jax's fucking hang up is that hes a self destructive fuckwit who cant help but hurt the people he gets attatched too(consistent with the rest of the show). By god the rest of you fucks need to get laid

I mean it was nice and all but was the mid-credits sex scene necessary? They started throwing popcorn screaming with joy and it got in my hair

>>154055822
Oh man if a girl ever got me to be nice to her and open up about my deepest secrets, then puts me in a bow. I would INSTANTLY turn gay and trans to!
But yeah, all I see is a bunch of fuckwits who started using 4chan in 2016 and use too much /pol/

>>154055822
Jax is a Tranny IRL too btw

goose wants all sensitive white boys to kill themselves

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>oldest person in the theater by at least 10 years
>find a set in the middle of the theater
>Group next to me get up and leave and find worse seats just to not be around me.
>Some guys finally do fill in next to me
>The keep turning and look at me and whispering to eachother and laughing.
>Stomach sinks because of social anxiety and stomach starts to hurt.
>Cant even pay attention to the movie because im so nauseous but trying to hold in farts and everytime i dont the people next to me laugh and make exaggerated gagging sounds
how do supposed "fans" of a work completely miss the point and continue to be huge assholes.

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>Jax is personally responsible for abstracting two different people and probably would've done it again if given enough time
>we're supposed to feel bad for him because "he regrets it and did it because he has sadbrain"
>spends half the fucking film on him and his problems
Goose should've just made another Runmo or something instead of this shit. What's with queer creators having their self inserts be horrible people but "it's ok you should love and pity them because they're just widdle baby"?

>>154056497
Are you fat or ugly irl?

>>154056497
Have you considered that you might actually smell?

>>154055664
Nah. It will happen by the end of this month.

>>154056497
Is this why gangle is your favorite?

>>154054453
You know if you remove the slurs, this feels like AVGN circa 2011ish. Found myself progressively reading it in his voice.

>>154056557
I can see it. Funny.

>>154054453
Gameoverse is way more professional than the TADC movie. And actually tries to make the worlds actually fun to be in.

>>154056505
Yeah like
I really didn't feel bad for him. I felt bad for Pomni that she lost a friend but he kinda deserved the fate he chose. Ribbit did not deserve what Jax did to her, and Kaufmo was just an encore of Jax being fucking awful.

>>154056613
Abstraction is a really poorly done concept in the show. And mega confusing since it implies that abstracted people are in a creepy hive mind. It would’ve been better if Jax had a b-plot into exploring the abstracted world and then getting out of it akin to a near death experience.
But Goose said “gotta troon!”

>>154056505
>What's with [castration cultist]s having their self inserts be horrible people
Writing what they know.

>>154056505
>>154056673
Oh, and...
>but "it's ok you should love and pity them because they're just widdle baby"?
That's the normalization tactic the cult uses.

>>154056658
No, I don't think escaping abstraction would've necessarily made it better. It's an analog to death, because death itself isn't possible here. Esoteric mind files permanently corrupted beyond repair makes for eerie and confusing setpieces, which I enjoyed. Though I think Jax's mind is actually fully fragmented, leaving only his corrupted avatar behind, so Pomni can't dive into his mind again to say hi or anything. Dude's gone, even moreso than the others.

It's part of that tragedy. Jax's insecurity caused Ribbit and Kaufmo to meet permanent ends, and then he his own. They can't be saved anymore, they're gone. But it gives some resolution and answers to the others still alive.

>>154056497
Bro you weren't holding in those farts as well as you think you were that's probably why.

>>154056755
I don’t give a shit. I know how my world, the world Jesus created, and know it very well. Kaufmo’s abstraction was implied to be the data the circus annd Caine absorbed to make more capable NPCs. And there was creepy paranormal activity in in episode 7 that implied the abstracted are operating on a totally different lense.

And instead, it’s just pure directionless nonsense with a creator that doesn’t want to be consistent about it.

The thing is. How I am describing it to you is death. And in that circumstance, Jax has the choice to stay abstracted or go back to Pomni and co. And when he does it, he’ll never see Ribbit and Kaufmo again as the corruptions in the code will be prevented by a fixed Caine.

I wanted an adventure that is consistent and fills me with wonders I can’t truly solve. Episode 7 give me a taste of it. Episode 8 felt like it was building to it. And instead, I was fucked and learned what the shit is another stupid trooning story.

>>154056945
Anon I think you are too drunk on your headcanons to consider that it's not your show and how the abstractions work is not up to you, it's up to Gooseworx. If she emphasizes it's a permanent end that the players cannot come back from, then it's an analog for death.

>>154049850
Pomni is the player character and Jax is the main NPC

>>154057058
I don’t care about you and Gooseworx. You both are corrupted creations that will sit down and worship trash instead of burning it down and realizing what could be better. You guys lose that touch of truly wonderful imagination by replacing your innocence with porn and then corrupted your own works by it without a single inch of shame.

>>154051854
I liked it, Jax is the main character so it makes sense

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>>154057128

>>154055086
holy shit obsessed

>>154057171
I'd be happy to ignore you if you were happy to not induct children into the chemical-and-physical-castration ritual.

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>Ep 7 introduces the idea that Caine is directly responsible for people abstracting by messing with their minds
>this idea is never followed up on and Jax abstracts because he's sad
>people theorize that Bubbles is the blue AI, since he's the only entity that Caine doesn't seem to actually have control over
>doesn't matter because Bubbles never appears again and the blue AI doesn't do anything but be a plot device that Caine throws away because it made him a chud and too powerful or whatever, except that actually he gets the blue AI back and locks it up
>Ep 8 introduces a mystery interloper who tricks Kinger into deleting Caine, which could potentially be the blue AI or someone who didn't actually abstract or even someone outside of the simulation entirely
>this is never brought up again, Kinger says it was just Caine messing with his hacking attempts
>plot that we get can instead be summed up as everyone just dealing with their feelings and Jax gets abstracted while Caine comes back lmao
Well fuck me for wanting things to actually happen in a finale that you're putting in theatres.

>>154047907
>Now I just wait for them to realize how shit it always was and why...
Homestuck 2026

>>154057262
>fuck me for wanting things to actually happen
With the shit series you've been watching for three years, yes.

>>154057262
>Ep 7 introduces the idea that Caine is directly responsible for people abstracting by messing with their minds
when

>>154057262
>Ep 7 introduces the idea that Caine is directly responsible for people abstracting by messing with their minds
This was only relevant when talking about Scratch. Caine makes it clear that Scratch's abstraction was his fault, and why he kept any further changes to temporary mid-adventure modifiers. What it introduces is that if a person's mind becomes too corrupted from any reason or source, they will abstract. Despair and grief are other sources that introduce that corruption too.

>>154057291
Every other episode was shorter and had more plot, I feel like this was a noticeable drop in terms of quality.
>>154057301
Literally the ending.
https://youtu.be/oaOG1xOk7XY?t=1887
>>154057316
>This was only relevant when talking about Scratch
Yeah I guess that's a valid interpretation, but we have so little information on Scratch and all that that I think you can make the argument that Caine made a mistake then, and he's making a mistake now and that the temporary modifiers eventually add up to corrupting their minds.
Literally doesn't matter though so oh well, who cares who's right.

>>154057423
>every turd was smaller and easier to swallow
You still ate shit for three years.

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>>154047852
It was about as good an ending as The Amazing Digital Circus could've mustered. I'm content with it. Found it weird how many attendees in my showing would giggle at the emotional venting scenes clearly meant to be played straight, though...

>>154057153
You will not be smiling when God brings it up to you. Everything you do reflects your heart.

>>154055013
>>154055822
They also blast Stevie Wonder's Isn't She Lovely when abstracted Jax hits the flashbangs and it was one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. I thought it added to the trans Jax theory although maybe I'm misinterpreting something.
Man it took a lot in me to not burst out laughing as they were playing that song.

>>154048936
The pilot wasn't a kids show, maybe even 2 wasn't, but 3 onward when merch really started flowing? Yeah.

>>154051307
>A big reason for Amazing Digital Circus becoming so popular is being FREE on youtube
That doesn't explain all the other youtube indie pilots that barely reach more than 100k views

>How did each of them find the computer/circus? Why did they decide to try the headset?
>How did they meet irl? Do they feel a connection or is it just by chance?
>Can abstractions be fixed or reversed if Kinger focuses hard enough?
>Will more people continue to come into the circus? Will abstractions still happen now that the cast knows the truth?
>Did Caine cause or force Scratch to abstract? Kinger's line in 7 kind of implies it.
I want answers. Not 30 minutes of "Buy Jax Merch Please"

nope it will be forgotten in a year

>>154049482
They're children. If thing they like isn't perfect, something is wrong.

>>154055939
I assume this is why Korea banned it.

>>154055822
when jax's mind is shown it implied that the persona of wearing a dress ironically was a fake and that he actually did enjoy it
make of it what you will

>>154057685
>How did each of them find the computer/circus?
Well Kinger's is obvious, the rest of them seemed to have stumbled into it after abandoning someone or something excluding Pomni who was an urban explorer. As for why they try on the headset, innate curiousity.

>How did they meet IRL?
Coincidence and it's ambiguous whether they know each other like that.

>Can abstractions be fixed?
No, if it were that simple then Caine would've done it but it seems abstraction is akin to data corruption and without backups there's no getting around it

>Will more people continue to come into the circus?
Maybe, the building is still there, the headset is still there. As for abstractions, seeing as everyone is on the same page now including Caine I don't think things would get dire enough for someone else to break down.

>Did Caine cause or force Scratch to abstract?
He caused it by accident due to screwing with his scan data too much.

I'm not sure why you needed exposition of every minute detail, some things are better left up to interpretation and not all stories need to last forever.

So did Jax hit the "no" button because he didn't want to go back to his real life and have to face what happened to his mother, or because he knew they were just brainscans and "leaving" would essentially be dying? He says he always knew or something when it's revealed that they're just data files

>>154057989
Thanks Anon. I am now satisfied.

>Jax says "This is real?" when Kinger talks about C&A
>Never brought up again

>>154048787
>>154049880
Same, I don't get the hate. Loved both it and the return of jaffar when I was a kid

>>154058133
He didn't want to go back. The circus, its inexplicable partial amnesia, and the comic state of things are easy escapes from the life he wanted to forget. If he reveals too much he feels too exposed and pivots to protect his fragile ego, hard rejecting whatever it is that caused him to feel that vulnerable, even if it was in a safe place.

Like, he had it all with his friends before. He was good buddies with Ragatha, Kaufmo, and Ribbit, and Ribbit both knew about his sordid past and still accepted him despite it. But it made him feel way too vulnerable and insecure, and he threw all that away. Him learning that Kinger was a real C&A employee was a shock to his worldview, that this wasn't some stupid cartoon, and him learning they were all brainscan AIs and nobody blaming Kinger for killing Caine just convinced him that nothing ever mattered, and he could let go.

no
but I'm glad everyone else is having fun. This might be the last major movie theater event I ever go to

>>154054961
It’s really about villifying his pre-transition self because being a successful cartoon creator makes him wonder why he bent the knee so damn hard (even if only subconsciously)
At the same time emphasizing Jax hard because he wants to create positivity for this symbolic figure, the chaotic trans mind

>>154055822
Considering he talks about his mommy issues and that he blurted out the secret in response to her complaining about him not being manly enough, yeah there is a certain implication going on there if Ribbit puts a girly bow on him

>>154058279
???
Why would that need to be "brought up again"
What would even be said anyways

>>154058417
I really think it's just a "I'm a crossdressing sissy femboy faggot" kind of thing, if it's even any kind of sexual or identity thing to begin with. That's what actually gets shown to us in the series, the trans stuff you're coming up with is literally all headcanon and it's because you let them live rent free in your head for some reason

>>154051272
This.
Due to leaks, anyone with negative opinion about the finale just stayed home.

>>154058824
>it's because you let them live rent free in your head for some reason
The creator is literally a tranny and called Jax his "self insert".
Anyway I think there's some weight to the theory because of the chained up door in his mind that Pomni never gets to see behind that also has the Jax sign on it scratched out. It implies that there's a secret that Pomni never finds out about, and that it's a different kind of Jax on the door
>>154058910
I wish I let myself get spoiled instead of swearing off of this place until I saw it irl

>>154058926
>The creator is literally a tranny and called Jax his "self insert".
So? What makes you think that thing specifically has to be what aspect is being self inserted?
I don't think you understand what "self insert" means

>>154055945
>>154055822
Retards lmao

>>154059247
I'm not even saying that Jax is definitely trans you retard, I'm saying that you're stupid for acting as if people thinking that Jax could be trans is some wild thing that's only come about because anons are obsessed about trannies, and not due to the very basic association of it being a show written by a tranny, who are known to put trannies in their works. You retarded fucking nigger your bait is godawful, I shouldn't even be responding to your shit. Fuck you.

>>154059380
The average person who is not obsessed with trannies does not even know that gooseworx is one.

>>154059389
Oh fuck off you faggot

I thought it was easily the best non-Japan ese animated series finale, like ever. Insanely good, emotionally complex, doesn't hold your hand for every choice made, especially with the Jax and Caine stuff. Was very very impressed. Rewatching the show made me realize all the episodes work better with the full context of Gooseworx's vision as well.

I think people are judging it for what they thought it should be instead of what the show is, which is a character study and ideation on depression, suicide, and miscommunication. I found the show's ending to be incredibly poignant and melancholic and I can't think of a better cartoon that represents the current time period more than this one.

Pure Cope thread lmao

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>>154048689
>50+ verified ratings
Nice sample you have there. It's just Glitch tard-wrangling their shills to quickly pad the ratings so that other reviewers might second-guess themselves.

>>154057989
> it were that simple then Caine would've done it
From what Kinger says the brain files didn't even work in the first place and the whole thing happened because said files were left long enough with a creative AI for it to start figuring them out (and the implication is it was Scratch's gambit in the first place)to the level were he could make them circus characters, so there's the implication he might be able to fix them in the long run as he understands more and more about human minds

>>154057685
>How did each of them find the computer/circus?
King's whole team was scanned at work
Pomni did Urbex there after C&A went down/away
Jax was a squatter
Ragatha was a realtor who visited the building
Gangle probably had a hospital brain scan (since her accident is the last thing she remembered) and I don't know about Zooble but the details should be in Kane's ending presentation

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watched it, safe to say that jax is the light yagami of tadc

>>154059444
lol

>>154057503
I thought the song was meant to describe Ribbit basically being the perfect friend for Jax. But my memory is shit and I kinda forgot the sequence of that part.

>>154054453
Cartoons were never good. Grow up and start a farm.

>>154053189
The question I really wanted answered. Is Caine paying the electricity bill somehow? The computers they are in seem vulnerable just sitting in a abandoned building somewhere. The computers are also aging this whole time.

>>154049218
I didn't see any changes at all from the PT dub (other than English voiceover, of course). They didn't even go through the effort of polishing some shots that looked unfinished.

>>154060538
So what? Moviegoers loved it. If something is enjoyed while being only 90% complete, is there a point to pushing for 100% completion?

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I was neutral on Jax but now I think he might be one of the most unlikable characters in history
>I pushed my mom once and she fell down
>I ran away
>That's why I'm so mean to everyone
>Also if you tell anyone I'll hate you forever
>Hates them forever anyway
His backstory was not bad enough to make me feel bad for him. He could've told everyone that story and none of them would give a fuck.

>>154060564
I would've stopped his faggoty bitching and moaning by stuffing his mouth with my male reproductive organ.

>>154055275
How does this relate to Jax being a tranny?
If Jax is a ftm tranny then it sounds like his mother was trying to get him to become more masculine as support, but he hated her for that
And if he's mtf then his mother's actions look hostile which would be fitting but then Ribbit continued to call him a male

>>154060564
I think you missed like half of that scene anon

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>>154060564
>His backstory was not bad enough to make me feel bad for him.
Well... we can't all be loved.

>>154060614
Hush, Jaxpup.
Or I'm rolling the newspaper.

>>154060219
That scene is a montage of clips of Jax from throughout the show, not Ribbit

>>154059474
>especially with the Jax and Caine stuff
That's all it fucking was, just half an hour of going into Jax's backstory and 10 minutes of Caine going on a monologue of "Hmm, maybe I was wrong" and then climbing up some stairs.
I was actually hoping that we'd have to watch these characters come to terms with the fact that they're "fake", or dealing with the fact that they've doomed themselves to a trapped world without Caine, but instead we just ignore the majority of the cast, you get 5 minutes of them being sad about Jax being dead and that's the end of their emotional journey.

>>154060485
indeed, on top of that, the momentary internet access suggests to me that the computer was moving or smth

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The only reason why even watch it its because my gf is into that hell she even cried at the ending as for me the only interesting thing about it is loosely based on i have no mouth and i must scream

>>154060648
>"Hmm, maybe I was wrong"
This is what gets me.
It's like what if "The Boys", but Homelander just randomly gives himself a quick mental therapy to be the superhero general public wanted all along.

A better episode wouldve been if jax got triggered after caines death somehow but instead of abstracting he becomes the new ringmaster, being even worse than Caine was. Then Caine escapes the recycle bin and helps them stop jax using stuff they learned about him from the real world (honestly id cut that irl shit out completely and skip that). In any case they defeat jax / make him chill out and get used to the circus. Maybe caines blue ai and/or bubble are the new antagonist, boom, setup for more tadc. Could have bubble unleash hell upon the circus and try to ruin it and the cast members too or use the abstracted people against them. Maybe caine makes up for his bad stuff by working with jax to defeat bubble. And then jax gets redemption from the group after helping caine defeat bubble.

Caine couldve also sacrificed himself to save the others somehow with some tech jargon bs explanation where he could save the abstracted characters but at risk/cost, himself.


Its probably generic in some ways if you pick through it but at least it has a meaningful loss. As it is, literally ANYONE besides those already abstracted wouldve been an improvement if they died, just because itll make it no longer a hugbox where nothing happens.

Stories where nothing bad happens (at least not permanently) have no stakes or consequences at all and they make the whole series of events prior ring hollow.

A hallmark of a shit writer in this era is authors who cant help killing every character off for the fuck of it or never kill any of them because they dont wanna hurt anyones feelings. No tasteful choices about which survive and which dont and why.

Goose is a shit writer

>>154050731
The Jax/Pomni stuff is the biggest fumble

>>154060706
The funny thing is that he then immediately got an actual heartfelt moment with the moon afterwards that was then completely glossed over. It would've been so easy to just have one of his creations evolving beyond his control and having a dialogue with him act as the trigger for him having a change of heart.
Instead he just does exactly what he did at the start of episode 8, but this time it has the opposite effect because whatever. Could've pinned it on Bubble who's the blue AI, but that's either a dropped plot point or was never true in the first place.

>>154060625
Boo hoo nigger

>>154060919
You're walking on thin ice, Michael.

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>>154060564
>i pushed my mom and she fell down
>that's why i'm so mean to everyone

Did you even watch the movie?

>>154060809
>because whatever
because the first time it got him killed so he took some time off to see how they'd fare without him, which led them throguh a path where they learned and organized to create their own stuff, and kept an abstraction under control when he'd been throwing them away as lost causes. He's a learning AI, of course after that he was gonna come to a different conclusion than the one that didn't work.

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>jax finally gets a compliment from his mother
>gets a hug as well
>instinctively tries to kill her
I should have guessed Gooseworx is a fan of Crona

>>154047852
100%, yes

>>154055275
>Confesses to her he possibly killed his mom and ran away from home
>"You're trans!"

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So how do zooble ang gangle fuck? one of thema has no mouth and neither have vaginas, its probably the worst ship to make canon and confirm their fucking because everyone else has clothes but they're naked and we can see they have nothing down there.
I s zooble just rubbing her face against gangles ribbon and pretending she's eating her out and gangle is making fake sex noises? Or ar they having some kind of non phisical telepatic sex like sandra bullock and stalone in demolition man?
This is very important lore question gooseworx has to anwser.

>>154060564
life footage of jax's mom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCtM6D4GOc

can't believe this was 2 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsL1OgmjLN8

Nothing lives up to fandom hype but it lived up to the actual hype of the show.

>>154060564
>>154060979
Yeah seriously, don't be so fuckin' reductive, he thought she was fucking dead.

>>154061979
and proceeded to make sure that anyone who tried befriending him would end up definitely dead.

>>154049383
Reminds me of the unbelievable amount of cope on /v/ when it was leaked that Kingdom Come 2 had a black character and a unavoidable jewish quest.
They were analysing every pixel and saying it was an obvious edit. Then it turned out it was all real lmao.

>>154050895
Man, you sound like a Joke NPC from the digital circus

And your a pussy for running away like a little fagg, for fucks safe you colud have filmed there reaction at least, there were a bunch of women, what the fuck could they actually do to you?
Nag you and call you a chud? What the fuck were you running from?

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>>154047852
Before coming into TADC threads in /co/, I had no idea to the extent so many people would tie themselves into knots and even feel represented by fucking Jax.
Get your shit together /co/

So functionally, what about the plot of the finale changes if we do the following?
>From Pomni-Ragatha's hug, cut straight to the party building a tent for the Jaxstraction
>thus skipping everything about Pomni saving Jax, since she doesn't anyway

>>154051202
Funnybunny fags should have just blown each other in the bathroom after the finally instead of complaining, with the amount of jax fangirls im sure the gender ratio would be even enoug to not make it gae

>>154056497
You really need to re-examine your life choices, buddy.

>>154062584
You cut out the entire 'resolution' to Jax's character, reducing an ending that ignores a lot of plot threads for themes and such to no ending and only such

>>154047907
I'm not a "fan" and I wasn't disappointed, so I guess you're right. Jax doesn't deserve redemption for what he did to Ribbit, but he also doesn't deserve death, so abstraction is fitting.

I didn't pay attention, what characters were black in real life?

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>>154047852
well i dont regret buying a ticket to see it

8/10, it was a good ending, but they made some questionable decisions

>>154056505
Jax is not responsible for Kaufmo. Dude was going to abstract searching for Exit anyway, maybe would've brought Jax with him.

>>154063000
no but at the same time he alienated Kaufmo almost as badly as he alienated Ribbit

its somewhat similar to how Pomni said that, if she had tried to get closer to Jax the last time they spoke, he wouldnt have abstracted

im thinking Kaufmo figured out the truth on his own, the brain scans thing, and he sunk into total despair knowing exitting the circus was absolutely impossible

>>154051036
They look like theyre waiting to sniff your chair after you get up

>>154062583
Is easy to do so. Remember that Christian conservatives expect trans individuals like Gooseworx to accept how they were created by God. It’s trans who think Jax is evil, not normal people who pick on each other all the time.


Jax’s general story is inspired by how young millennial males were abused on Tumblr and other early social media for being masculine. Since the creator is trans, he wants to believe he made the right choice by committing identity suicide, but the story of Jax contains an abundance of evidence that he’s wrong.

Furthermore, women find his ‘creepy male behavior’ hot, which also shows how broken the narrative is

>>154054645
did you get a boner

>>154060588
Yeah because Jax threw the bow away and said forget about this conversation. It was clear Jax was running from it.

>>154063256
>Jax’s general story is inspired by how young millennial males were abused on Tumblr and other early social media for being masculine
Jax was explicitly (to him) tormented for not living up to an imagined masculine ideal, not for being masculine
His outward personality for most of the series is an insecure cope very straightforwardly based on him assuming that perceived mockery would continue to be the case if he let people in

>>154055275
This would make sense if Leroy at the end wasn't still referred to as he/him, implying that even after he got brainscanned he didn't transition. I think it's likely that Jax has some fruit in his salad but I don't think he was closeted trans.

>>154063000
Jax isnt even responsible for ribbit abstracting but the show frames it that way contrary to its core message. All of them are equally responsible but if anyone is to blame its caine.

>>154047907
>>154048213
But the ending was fitting and besides a couple weird cuts, decent really. A rarity these days. It was good.
>>154048762
The show actually doesn't go very heavy handed on those things. Goose left it mostly to implication, which can realistically be more multi-faceted and nuanced than what weirdo online (like many here) assume. Very based.

>>154063349
The refusal to be more direct with what it was compared to a character like zooble being pretty up front is a themes thing, but he could very easily just have been anything from a classical crossdresser to some variant of femboy to a new age transfuck creature and it wouldn't change the story much
Realistically I don't think someone like that would ever end up being out publicly regardless of what it is

Don't know about you guys, but I loved the ending. Maybe it's because I'm a huge sucker for its themes and I didn't go with any expectations about the story

I'm actually surprised that the ending is apparently divisive, since I can see what Gooseworx was going for and I thought the fans would see the vision, but guess I'm a casual (watched the series after the movie was announced)

>>154053215
I like to think abstractions still contain the person. Pomni might be able to re-enter jax and show him his irl self, maybe it would turn him back, or he's stuck, still I think it'd help.

This is arcane s2 all over again give it a few months and everyone will be pretending they knew how shit tadc was from the beginning. but unlike arcane tadc was never good.

Glitch has never made anything good

>>154049383
>>154049218
The ending was fitting and good tho

>>154063373
She would not have abstracted without Jax acting the way he did, she wasn't even vaguely close
Caine is not primarily to blame just for being a kind of shitty entertainer, his only other option was to just leave them as dead code in the system

>>154049715
>>154053453
He's just lying, the show, and ending, were good. Probably as result of small peen o algo
>>154049850
No, pomni and jax are the deuteragonists, and as the guy says in later replies, its pomni's actions that bring people from dispair

>>154063490
Caine is ultimately responsible as the host of the circus and their care taker along with accidentally gaslighting and tormenting them.
In a show about the connections and the collective responsibility these characters have for one another those connections seemingly dont exist in any tangible way. Were was anyone else? No one else stepped in no one else noticed or mediate.
The enitre show is like this and its a mess.

>>154063871
Caine trying to occupy the humans minds even if done perfectly would still only be a last resort failsafe, and could never be the main thing holding anyone together
If he had simply left them alone they would have only degraded faster
Additionally, as much as corporate HR reps would have you believe, people are not interchangeable cogs in a machine, any relationship is not equivalent to any other, you are still responsible for how you personally hurt people who care about you and vice versa

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>>154063256
No amount of projection and false-flagging will hide what you are and what you do

what hype?

>>154051036
would

>>154047907
The ones actually going to the theater instead of watching leaks seem to like it though

>>154063373
Jax lied, gas-lit, and pitted Ribbit's friends against her multiple times
He is 120% responsible for her abstraction

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>>154057478
Bro thinks he's tough, bro's got an ego bigger than Caine's

>>154063256
Stop shitting up every thread you step into.

>>154063469
>give it a few months
How can you be so sure?

>>154054453
Spic coded post, by the way

>>154061874
Who says zooble wasnt just pleasuring herself?

So they just left a computer on with all their weird AI research in an abandoned building?

>>154059474
I liked it a lot too. It seemed like a very earnest story with a genuine message to tell based off someone's lived experiences, which is rare in a lot of stories these days.

I think it's kind of sad though that this blows a lot of other animated show endings out of the water. Because ultimately it had a lot of weird flaws still. But getting a real story instead of some derivative NuPixar or formulaic industry writer sloppa is so rare that watching something like TADC feels like drinking water in the middle of a dessert.

>>154063427
I think Goose actually did a good job with making things implication, showing restraint by not making everything onsidedly gay or trans dysphoria.
Zooble is clearly body dysphoric due to her body being based on brainscans, but dysphoria != trans. Dysphoria can be felt by men and women for different reasons, it's up to the individual to cope or work through that mental health issue how they see fit, and truth is, it's not always chopping yer dick or tits off. By leaving it at just implied dysphoria, it allows zooble more than being boiled down to terms and ideologies. Based on goose's characterization.
Same with Jax or any other character. I think goose did a good job about making it about feelings rather than absolutes. She didn't take sides, and made a very human story.

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>They know there's specific files with everyone's brainscans in them
>They have access to the internet
What's to stop them from tricking IRL Jax into putting the headset on again, looking at the new Jax brainscans, and use that to recompile OG Jax? The Abstractions are basically just them corrupting, right? You could literally just fix OG Jax or extract enough of his memories to put into a new Jax scan to have him back.

>>154063997
Caines effect on their well being is fundamentally a mixed bag as established in the first episode when he accidentally killed kaufmo. Whether or not his justification for his adventures and maintaining the circus when the other characters are shown able to create things themselves is another matter entirely.
The point i was making completely went over your head. No, another cast member couldnt replace jax or suddenly make things better, but as kinger said "The worst thing you can do is make someone feel unloved." and what we know about abstraction is it almost always happens when characters feel completely isolated. The fact we do not see a hint of their social dynamic it along with what we know heavily implies that the rest of the cast stood by and let her abstract. And we have instances of characters justifying them isolating others like when zooble puts the blame on kaufmo for abstracting, or no one figuring out the darkness thing with kinger, or ragathas entire character ect ect.
Its a disappointment that aspect of the show doesnt go anywhere and instead we get the easy way out of it was all jax's fault. Even the sociopathic ai that accidentally murders them on occasion gets closure.

I forgot, what was the public wi-fi called?

>>154064105
When the emotions dont hit anymore and the hype cycle dies down youtube essayists will create a new opinion for them all to have
>>154064264
dont think about it

>>154064264
Its not the same jax though. He wont be jax from ths point in his life when he put on the headset and he wouldn't have had his past circous experiences. He'd fundamentally be a different person from the one they know.

>>154063256
Name one positive masculine trait jax has. All of his behaviour can be attributed to that of a catty woman

>>154064318
He could still be the same jax its not a complete overwrite just a core file validation

>>154064318
That's why you halt the process of turning the brainscans into an avatar, go in, and use it to recompile OG Jax. They have the same basic memories up to a point.

By the time you recompile all of that, you can fix the rest of OG Jax, maybe do a little creative editting to keep him from abstracting again (maybe edit his memories of episode 7 and 8 to be about them forcing Caine to tell them the truth), and he's good as new again.

When you're a digital being, nothing is static and everything is fixable. Hell, that can be Kinger and Caine's project for a few months.

>>154062956
What resolution did we get? He becomes abstracted, then he remains abstracted

Pomni should have probably succeeded in getting him to un-abstract, if just to give some purpose to that entire sequence

>>154051307
if the ending had been good, it would have worked out fine.

funny how we're seeing this more and more.
"big hyped project" doesn't live up, doesn't stick the landing.
FNaF, Deltarune, this.

>>154064413
>fnaf
scott stuck the landing with pizzeria simulator he went back in for the zoomer big bucks

Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderful
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
But isn't she lovely, made from love
Isn't she pretty
Truly the angel's best
Boy, I'm so happy
We have been heaven blessed
I can't believe what God has done
Through us he's given life to one
But isn't she lovely, made from love