Did they ruin animation?
>>154048523Not McHale, and Irwin was late to the game when he got his own show.
>>154048523No, they made shit they thought was cool and for the most part all found big audiences. it's not their fault every other hack in the industry decided "I'll just do a shittier version of that"
>>154048523Yes. Their shows didn't start off bad but they did more harm than good.
>>154048523yes, trauma dumping from the woman and then the trauma dumping style on the gaming side from toby fox has ruined millenial/zoomer writing for the next generation or two.
>>154048610>it's not their fault every other hack in the industry decided "I'll just do a shittier version of that"I wanna see something even worse than Steven Universe or OK:KO.
>>154048523No, it's just that they changed animation into something completely different. I believe it's called tranimation now.
>>154048661>from toby foxThat's Patrick McHale.
>>154048661I forgot to add the talking horse cartoon
>>154048678Stop projecting.
>>154048721Stop injecting.
>>15404852310% was caused by them and 90% was caused by executives, shareholders, and other financial Jews
>>154048523>The Trantastic Four
>Cartoon Network considers Pendleton Ward, Patrick McHale, Rebecca Sugar and Ian Jones-Quartey "animation legends" over Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakovsky, John Dilworth, David Feiss, Maxwell Atoms, Tom Warburton and Danny AntonucciGrim
No. The suits did.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP4wsURn3rw
>>154048832I'm pretty sure it's a marketing stunt.
>>154048523Alex and Dana should be on there too
>>154048832Why would they mention the others when they have nothing to do with the special they're advertising?
>>154048523Ian was a victim of modern CN. He couldn't ruin anything.
>>154048971The fuck did Dana do?>One early cancelled show that didn't have so much as a fart in terms of relevance>A popular pilot>Mostly a storyboard artist
>>154048611No they didn't
>>154049131Her show was shit and now she’s just operating on spite why pretending she is a victim. If she wasn’t fucking Alex she would have never even gotten that far.
>>154049636True. Their shows were always bad.
>>154049680Nope, stop your headcanons>>154049636They did
>>154049931We don't downvote here.
>>154048523Yes, it was them and not the producers
>>154050174No
>>154050204Nice seething
>>154048523No, the jewish producers who made the decision to hire them and fund them did.
>>154048832>overWho says it's over? This event has 4 animators attending, and CN called them legends as a promotional angle. That doesn't mean they're precluding literally any of the other animators you're talking about. Are you stupid?
>>154048523Definitely the to two monstrosities.
>>154053367CN is currently doing a documentary and they haven't contacted most of these people. Craig and Genndy are a given, but the rest are a toss up. Maxwell Atoms didn't know about this until some weeks ago.
>>154048832>Genndy Tartakovskyhe got multiple shows from adult swim so I don't know how you could ever claim he's been snubbed. The rest is accurate though. Especially Maxwell Atoms who straight up got blacklisted from Cartoon Network because the head guy hates him.
>>154048971>AlexHe actually made a decent product that didn't overstay it's welcome>DanaIndustry hack that only exists because Sugar wasn't pushed out
>>154053687Didn't that fucking retard run CN into the ground?
>>154053233Don't worry, most of the showrunners are jewish too.
>>154048832Know what is actually crazy? The fact that the Teens Titans GO guys are far more successful than the rest of CN and Warner creators. These guys can't stop getting jobs.
>>154053720Kinda. He definitely had a part in it. Stuart Snyder gets most of the blame but Michael Ouweleen (who i'm talking about and has been president of Cartoon Network since 2022) was in charge of programming back in the 2000s. He was the one that fired Atoms and told him Billy and Mandy was a "hateful fart cartoon that ruined Cartoon Network's brand".
>>154048523Don’t be stupid
>>154053812ShhhThey want their "ARTEEST" fantasy to remain intact. The mere idea of creating media for mass audience appeal is evil and wrong to them.
>>154053691Alex is the reason Dana got in in the first place
>>154048523Is that Pendlard Weendlard
People like OP ruined animation. Instead of announcing how much he hates *thing*instead of just ignoring it and, if he's 'right' and show is somehow horrible garbage trash, it would go away, get cancelled, or end without any fanfare.
>>154048523Will he ever go back to webcomics?
>>154054149Ignoring shit doesn't make it go away.
>>154054254Ah. Is that why he calls Rebecca "Molecule"?
>>154048675Any Netflix animated feature besides maybe Haunted House; even the shit for adults is derivative as shit.
>>154048523No, they just turned it into a friends club. One has to be in their little social circle to ever be able to get even low paid temporary shit work in the industry.
>>154054942the sugar molecule
>>154054942probably
>>154048523Why do they all looks so ugly, and from California?Sugar was always so fucking putrid looking, you'd think they were trans.Never had the write glasses or hair style for their dog face, and looked 10 years older than she did.
>>154062565>you'd think they were trans.That's you
>>154062565Fuck you twerpShe's always looked like a cute mousey vulnerable bullyable fucktoy.
>>154048675>even worse Steven UniverseParanormal Park
>>154048523Maybe they draw everything horrendously ugly because they think it's actually normal?
>>154063828>Maybe they draw everything horrendously ugly because they think it's actually normal?There are some hot characters in SU, just not the main character
>>154062565>top right : alt jewish woman>lop left: the most average fat black nerd>bottom left : the most average scandinavian man>bottom right : the most average white manyou people are weird
>>154048523I really like Steven Universe but I think it's success was kind of a negative for the animation landscape because every new creator since just wants to make therapy tenderqueer slop but doesn't have the talent to make it work like Sugar did
>>154048523McHale's Over The Garden Wall was consistently good, from start to finish. Pendleton's sin was abandoning leadership of his own show. Sugar and Muto ruined things. Ian was swimming in their wake, but not influencing anything himself.
>>154048523What did Ward do? Adventure time didn't turn into modern middle-aged white woman therapy slop until he stepped down and handed over control
>>154048675Gameoverse
>>154064261Pen’s fromTexas
>>154065018>>154065072AT started all of this, and I actually like the show
>>154066326Really, anon?
>>154066379You really think it's not gonna lead to absolute disappointment once they reveal all of the lore?
>>154066365But people bastardizing it after the creator left started it. If you're going to blame Penn for the show existing, you might as well say it's Chuck Jones fault for making cartoons that eventually inspired it.
>>154064918But Sugar failed to make it work.
>>154066424Nta but he's right, Pen was the one that invitados his shitty tumblr nepofriends that would spread their cancer in the rest of the industry, one of those being Sugar herself, even his other series Bravest Warriors followed a similar path as AT because the fat manchild ragequit once again.
>>154064918Still a net good
>>154063828they are looksmatched
>>154063828That's a cute couple.Would be a shame if the sweet innocent wife was seduced and fucked into a coma.
>>1540625652/4 are from Maryland
>>154048675Loud house. The show and the fans
>>154048523ok drama queen
>>154048523No, the execs that tried to boil down their lightning-in-a-bottle popularity into a formula and hired worse successors/imitators are the ones who did that. Let's be real: Ward, Quartey and McHale don't deserve to be there. Ward's stepped away from Adventure time and the other artists ran it into the ground. Quartey and McHale made the kinds of shows they wanted to and didn't hand over the reigns to others who induced seasonal rot. Sugar's the only one whose influence in the industry spread like fungus.
>>154075800>*and didn't hand over the reins
>>154063849>There are some hot characters in SUThere are 0 attractive characters in that show. Fanart doesn't count.
>>154048523Pendleton is the only redeemable one and essentially made a DnD-lite boy adventure. All the others can get fucked into the grave, especially Sugar, that fucking rat of a subhuman bitch of a rat-dog.
>>154075800Ward is the only one with a brain-cell when he realized shit was going downhill. Sugar was an opportunistic rat.> Ward's stepped away from Adventure time and the other artists ran it into the ground. Exactly. And Sugar used feminism, DEI and lgbtq to steer CN into her own personal direction, and then the rest of the industry turned suit as well.
>>154077792No, he weaseled out.
>>154049078>Ian was a victim of modern CN.How so?
>>154048523Animation industry is just CN apparently
>>154077780They're all cut from his cloth
>>154064261Learn your lefts from your rights kek
>>154053812BASED
>>154082072No, slopper
>>154082114>Financial success>Long running with no signs of ending>Theatrical movie release>Critical success>No toxic fanbaseSlop?
>>154048523I still think Pendleton is not to blame.AT was great at first, just a show about a boy and his dog going on crazy adventures on a magic land.It only started to go bad after it attempted to become a sentimental fest, which I really doubt was Pen's plan for the show.If anything, Adam Muto is much more to blame for it then Pen, since it happened by the time he took control of the series.
>>154082220Yes.
>>154082395Go back to The Loud House.
>>154082384>Pendleton and McHale actually make game changer and/or award winning shows.>Sugar and Jones make shit that everyone either has forgotten or wishes they where forgotten.2 straight while males make good shows while a woman and black make garbage what a surprise.
>>154082422No
>>154082499Hold on, AT wasn't a one-man project.
>>154082562In the beginning it pretty much was, he created the initial pilot almost entirely by himself. Of course the series had other people working on it, that's how television works you retard.
>>154082605>that's how television works you retard.I know, jackass.
>>154082676Then why are you being retarded on purpose?
>>154082549Yes.
>>154082691I'm just saying that other members of the crew influenced the series, for better or for worse.
>>154082778Ward created the premise, the characters, the initial plots, the whole setting. He created what the show was. When he stepped down and handed the reins to other people, the show turned into something completely different.Why are you being an obtuse fucking retard? Yes, of course other creatives might have had input, but he was the one deciding what the show was, until he wasn't.
>>154082804Yes.
>>154048610SU was already fucking garbage at the time. only the character designs save it.
